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00:21 |
benrob0329 |
!tell tenplus1 http://i.imgur.com/zLhdmjx.jpg |
00:21 |
ShadowBot |
benrob0329: O.K. |
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benrob0329 |
o/ kaeza |
01:46 |
kaeza |
o/ |
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02:28 |
octacian |
Well, I've made a new personal record xD Third mod release in the past 2 days: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17607&p=269860#p269860 |
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benrob0329 |
to everyone who says terminals arent awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKj9QiFR0k |
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05:21 |
LazyJ |
!tell paramat I read that you might be working on a way to add back some of the old sneak glitch. The sneak glitch worked well for the way things are done on my server and I would like to have its useful parts back, if possible. My thoughts are to add the parts as minetest.conf options: Enable sneak elevators = true/false, Sneak Elevator Speed = [0-100] (ridiculously fast worked for my server), Sneak Elevator No Fall Damange = |
05:21 |
ShadowBot |
LazyJ: O.K. |
05:21 |
LazyJ |
true/false, Safe Landing on Slabs = true/false, Jump from Sneak = true/false. Thanks. ;) |
05:27 |
LazyJ |
!tell Fixer Thanks for contacting me through forum PM, IRC, and on my server about the WorldEdit exploit. That was the way the situation should have been handled. |
05:27 |
ShadowBot |
LazyJ: O.K. |
05:27 |
LazyJ |
These late nights are killing me. :/ |
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08:46 |
Shara |
Morning all |
08:48 |
shivajiva |
Morning |
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11:01 |
CWz |
Hey everybody |
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12:44 |
Jordach |
VanessaE, my ginger kitty has some form of cancer |
12:44 |
Jordach |
possibly for years un-noticed |
12:44 |
VanessaE |
aw :( |
12:44 |
Jordach |
he's been curled up on my lap at night |
13:03 |
Calinou |
hi |
13:03 |
Calinou |
truth has been told |
13:03 |
Calinou |
https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/6bf46m/them_i_need_photoshop_before_switching_me_what_do/ |
13:03 |
Calinou |
Jordach: ^ |
13:03 |
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13:03 |
Calinou |
(for the end result, see 2nd image of album) |
13:07 |
Fixer |
CYBERTELEGRAPH |
13:26 |
Fixer |
Calinou: yeah, 95% does not need photoshop and it is enough to use some open/free alternative |
13:27 |
Calinou |
b-b-but I need it for shitposting memes! |
13:27 |
Fixer |
you can literally shitpost via paint.exe from Windows 95 |
13:27 |
Calinou |
b-b-but I want to print my memes so I need CMYK support! |
13:28 |
Fixer |
paint.exe was my one of the first programs I've seen on W95 |
13:28 |
Calinou |
and my memes ought to be HDR so I need high-precision color depth! |
13:28 |
Fixer |
some paint memes are brilliant |
13:28 |
Fixer |
i must say |
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13:33 |
Jordach |
except photoshop doesn't fucking have brush delay when using the brush |
13:33 |
Jordach |
(in fast strokes) |
13:34 |
Jordach |
GIMP in my experience has been slow as fuck even on Windows |
13:34 |
Jordach |
even selection by colour took an age |
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13:39 |
Raven262 |
GIMP slow? |
13:39 |
Raven262 |
What kind of taster is your pc? |
13:39 |
Raven262 |
xD |
13:39 |
Raven262 |
*toaster |
13:39 |
Raven262 |
damn |
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13:40 |
Raven262 |
well, i guess it depends on the size of the graphic you are editing. |
13:45 |
Calinou |
yeah, there is significant brush delay with large brushes in GIMP |
13:45 |
Calinou |
but GIMP is not an advanced drawing tool anyway |
13:45 |
Calinou |
give Krita a try |
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13:47 |
Raven262 |
I can confirm the apparent lag on the large brushes, also it lags when using bucket fill on large areas. |
13:48 |
Raven262 |
But I haven't noticed selection lag, never. |
13:48 |
Raven262 |
And i have worked with GIMP for some 2.5 years now, mostly small images though. |
13:48 |
Fixer |
not fast enough PC, Xeon + 32GB + GF Titan is recommended |
13:49 |
Raven262 |
lol |
13:49 |
Calinou |
Fixer: consumer Skylake/Kaby Lake boards allow for 64 GB of RAM now |
13:49 |
Calinou |
and prosumer 128 GB I think |
13:51 |
Fixer |
prosumer feels like scummy word |
13:52 |
Fixer |
like shit for rich assholes |
14:09 |
Calinou |
yep |
14:09 |
Calinou |
that's basically it |
14:09 |
Calinou |
"consumer who wants to feel pro" |
14:11 |
Fixer |
Calinou: we will not call him professional, he is just wannaby asshole consumer |
14:12 |
Calinou |
amateursumer |
14:13 |
Fixer |
a dot-com era business term meaning "production by consumers" |
14:13 |
Fixer |
wtf |
14:14 |
Fixer |
* semiprofessional |
14:14 |
Fixer |
anarchism on same page |
14:14 |
Fixer |
ok |
14:15 |
benrob0329 |
Fixer: I haven't noticed, but maybe that's cause I'm not on a potato :-) |
14:16 |
Fixer |
potato power |
14:17 |
Calinou |
hi benrob0329 :) |
14:17 |
Fixer |
are there per world settings? i see i need to enable_tnt in minetest.conf... but what if I have multiple games/worlds? |
14:18 |
Calinou |
not sure if there's per-world settings exposable to mods |
14:18 |
Calinou |
world.mt seems to be reserved to core use |
14:19 |
Calinou |
same for map_meta.txt |
14:19 |
benrob0329 |
Hi Calinou |
14:20 |
benrob0329 |
A friend of mine said gimp sucks recently |
14:20 |
benrob0329 |
So I just dumped about 5 really good pictures in discord that were supposedly made in gimp |
14:22 |
benrob0329 |
And if you really hate the interface of gimp, use krita. |
14:22 |
Calinou |
benrob0329: did you see the reddit thread I posted? ;) |
14:22 |
Calinou |
this is exactly 90% of GIMP haters |
14:23 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, exactly |
14:23 |
benrob0329 |
He says gimp sucks |
14:23 |
Calinou |
some things are confusing to do in GIMP, like drawing shapes (but you get used to it) |
14:23 |
Calinou |
it's also GTK+2-based so it doesn't have real hiDPI support, native file managers… |
14:23 |
Calinou |
Krita fixes both, by using Qt 5 |
14:24 |
Calinou |
but unfortunately, Krita is mostly for drawing |
14:24 |
benrob0329 |
But then proceeds to slap some text on a MC screenshot and call it a day |
14:24 |
Calinou |
I wish it was capable of doing some photo manipulation :( |
14:24 |
Calinou |
this way we'd have an unified tool for everything |
14:24 |
benrob0329 |
can't even put a drop shadow on it because this online editor is so bad |
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14:25 |
benrob0329 |
yeah, krita is nice though |
14:25 |
benrob0329 |
Did a bit of pixel art animation in it |
14:25 |
benrob0329 |
But I'm much too used to gimp for much else |
14:26 |
benrob0329 |
I can just work faster when using gimps supposedly "clunky" interface |
14:28 |
Calinou |
GIMP 2.10 isn't happening soon though, and GIMP 3 is uncertain |
14:28 |
Calinou |
(GTK+ 3's Windows/macOS support is still half-assed today, and was non-existent until 2013) |
14:28 |
Calinou |
[libgnome intensifies] |
14:29 |
benrob0329 |
Imgui ftw |
14:29 |
Calinou |
imgui does not make native GUIs |
14:29 |
Calinou |
and is not suited to anything else than debug GUIs in games or other realtime applications |
14:29 |
Calinou |
for proper game GUIs, use whatever your engine offers, or Nuklear |
14:29 |
benrob0329 |
heh |
14:30 |
benrob0329 |
Hold on, I have examples |
14:30 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/vurtun/nuklear |
14:30 |
benrob0329 |
>C code |
14:30 |
Calinou |
imgui is great to make a GUI that exposes information for developers, modders, etc |
14:30 |
Calinou |
but don't use it to make GUIs that can be seen by end users |
14:31 |
Calinou |
very few game GUIs are modeled like this for example: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/ocornut/imgui/web/v143/skinning_sample_02.png |
14:31 |
Calinou |
and this seems to be what imgui primarily offers |
14:31 |
benrob0329 |
https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/issues/973 |
14:31 |
benrob0329 |
Second screenshot down |
14:32 |
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14:32 |
benrob0329 |
Yes, its mostly debug guis and POCs |
14:32 |
Calinou |
exactly |
14:33 |
Calinou |
things like Overwatch would never use that :) |
14:33 |
benrob0329 |
But with some theming it can be a very nice UI for many tasks |
14:33 |
Calinou |
(there is no concept of animations or transitions in imgui, it seems, by the way) |
14:33 |
benrob0329 |
Its not made for that |
14:33 |
Calinou |
although Godot doesn't offer that either |
14:33 |
benrob0329 |
CeGui is made for that |
14:33 |
benrob0329 |
And you know how complicated that is |
14:34 |
Calinou |
I think Nuklear is the go-to library for custom engines now |
14:34 |
Calinou |
but if you use Godot, you won't need a GUI library since such a thing is already included, and works (quite) well |
14:35 |
benrob0329 |
Nuklear is C, C in C++ is not preffered |
14:35 |
Calinou |
using C libraries in C++ is not a problem at all |
14:35 |
Calinou |
we do that with Godot all the time |
14:35 |
Calinou |
and other engines too |
14:35 |
Calinou |
…SDL is C, not C++ |
14:35 |
benrob0329 |
but its not as nice |
14:35 |
Calinou |
and guess what uses SDL? games made with C++! |
14:36 |
Calinou |
C is far more interoperable than C++ |
14:36 |
benrob0329 |
SFML is C++, and it has a far less clunky interface |
14:36 |
Calinou |
you can use C libraries in C++, Java, Python, Rust, Nim, Go, … |
14:36 |
Calinou |
C++? good luck with that |
14:36 |
Calinou |
out of the box, you can use C++ libraries in… C++ |
14:36 |
Calinou |
if you want to use them in other languages, you need to perform two bindings: binding the C++ library to C then to another language (like Rust) |
14:37 |
Calinou |
(this is what was done for Godot's GDNative) |
14:38 |
benrob0329 |
if I'm writing a game/program in C++, I do not care about other languages |
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14:41 |
nerzhul |
you can use C++ libs in java/python, rust also :p |
14:41 |
nerzhul |
benrob0329, i agree with you, C++ for the worl |
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14:42 |
rubenwardy |
C++ has a nonstandardified ABI, which is why it's more painful to bind to other languages |
14:42 |
rubenwardy |
iirc |
14:42 |
rubenwardy |
but C++ libraries in C++ is infinitely nicer |
14:42 |
rubenwardy |
also, o/ |
14:42 |
benrob0329 |
\o rubenwardy |
14:42 |
rubenwardy |
I way prefer SFML to SDL |
14:42 |
nerzhul |
non standard ABI ? and what's the problem with that is STL respect the standard API ? |
14:43 |
nerzhul |
it's normal for a such low level library to be dependent and near from system |
14:43 |
red-005 |
should I learn rust? |
14:43 |
nerzhul |
(note: stdc++ library is very high quality compared to gnustdc++ |
14:44 |
nerzhul |
bsd stdc++ for the fist occurence |
14:44 |
nerzhul |
red-005, you can but it's useless for MT :p |
14:44 |
benrob0329 |
^^^ |
14:44 |
benrob0329 |
Rust library support just isn't there yet |
14:45 |
red-005 |
do any major projects use it? |
14:45 |
nerzhul |
rust and golang are not stable for long time support (> 5 years) |
14:45 |
benrob0329 |
There are a LOT of immature projects out there that simply aren't ready |
14:45 |
benrob0329 |
So id (and am) give a few years |
14:47 |
CWz |
WhoAreYou, hey guess who visted mtz yesterday |
14:47 |
red-005 |
mtz? |
14:47 |
WhoAreYou |
CWz, blonde boy with glasses from USA? |
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14:47 |
CWz |
No deezl |
14:47 |
WhoAreYou |
Ah, deezl. |
14:47 |
WhoAreYou |
Thought about ChainLynx first. |
14:48 |
benrob0329 |
Heh |
14:48 |
nerzhul |
rust is used by thunderbird and firefox is some parsers, golang is used on influxdb, grafana and many interesting sysadmin tools |
14:48 |
benrob0329 |
He was on VE servers not too long ago |
14:48 |
nerzhul |
mtz => minetest zimbabwe ? :D |
14:48 |
benrob0329 |
Of Zombabwe |
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14:49 |
benrob0329 |
*or |
14:49 |
benrob0329 |
Sounds like a post apocalyptic video of mine |
14:49 |
benrob0329 |
"The Zombies of Zimbabwe" |
14:50 |
CWz |
Zombabwe |
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14:51 |
benrob0329 |
Wb NathanS21 |
14:51 |
NathanS21 |
thanks |
14:52 |
benrob0329 |
How was the void? |
14:54 |
nerzhul |
lol i read RichardTheTurkey |
14:54 |
benrob0329 |
LOL |
14:55 |
Wayward_One |
hi all |
14:56 |
DS-minetest |
hi Wayward_One |
14:56 |
Fixer |
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9IRhKVwAETM18.jpg:large |
14:56 |
Fixer |
those symbols always scared me |
14:57 |
benrob0329 |
Oh, I found a VT220 and a new old stock WY-65 on ebay! |
14:57 |
benrob0329 |
Idk which one to buy |
14:58 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: price? |
14:58 |
benrob0329 |
The VT is used but repainted |
14:58 |
benrob0329 |
$195 and $225 |
14:59 |
benrob0329 |
But new old stock |
14:59 |
benrob0329 |
That is...amazing |
14:59 |
benrob0329 |
I could make a video about it |
15:02 |
benrob0329 |
Funny thiny, Wyse was bought out by/became Dell |
15:02 |
benrob0329 |
My.monitor is a Dell |
15:05 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: seen Wyse terminal IRL, holy shit it was hard to look at |
15:06 |
benrob0329 |
Whar color? |
15:06 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: grey i think |
15:06 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: was 20 years ago |
15:06 |
benrob0329 |
No, CTR color |
15:06 |
Fixer |
greyish only |
15:06 |
benrob0329 |
ah |
15:06 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: what is CTR? |
15:06 |
benrob0329 |
This one is an Amber |
15:07 |
benrob0329 |
*CRT |
15:07 |
Fixer |
oh |
15:08 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: not sure about colour, was very long ago, but I remember it was painful to look at |
15:09 |
benrob0329 |
If I do get it, I can recreate this video: https://youtu.be/MoKj9QiFR0k |
15:10 |
Fixer |
benrob0329: color was probably this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHnRjxnCiE |
15:18 |
Jordach |
FeelsGoodMan |
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15:24 |
benrob0329 |
I think I'm going to get it |
15:25 |
benrob0329 |
Ill need to buy a keyboard, but those aren't hard to find |
15:27 |
Jordach |
oooooo |
15:27 |
Jordach |
my PC does Dolby Atmos support for headphones |
15:27 |
Jordach |
(and Windows Sonic) |
15:28 |
benrob0329 |
what does atmos do? |
15:28 |
Jordach |
positional sounds |
15:28 |
Calinou |
lotsa people on my Zandronum coop server right now :) |
15:28 |
Calinou |
7 players |
15:28 |
Calinou |
I set it up yesterday |
15:28 |
benrob0329 |
There are so many dolby technologies I can't keep track of them anymore |
15:28 |
CWz |
What is Zandronum? |
15:29 |
Jordach |
multiplayer doom |
15:29 |
Jordach |
(1993) |
15:29 |
Jordach |
anyone want to play some multiplayer terraria |
15:36 |
* Shara |
sometimes misses that game |
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15:41 |
Fixer |
nsfw https://twitter.com/destructoid/status/864221687666982913 |
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15:57 |
Fuchs |
I'm not entirely sure the 720p is a problem for a game of that kind. I enjoy it, but then I also never played it on PC |
15:57 |
Fuchs |
(wrt that twitter link) |
15:58 |
red-005 |
hi Fuchs |
15:58 |
Fuchs |
I mean ... it's blocks. |
15:59 |
Shara |
Hi Fuchs |
15:59 |
Fuchs |
yes, hi |
16:03 |
Calinou |
Minecraft looks far better at higher resolutions still (far away landscapes) |
16:03 |
Calinou |
a 1440p monitor is a good upgrade for such games, actually, I find |
16:03 |
Calinou |
2160p would be ideal |
16:03 |
Fuchs |
celeron55: poke |
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garywhite |
benrob0329: Why would you buy a terminal? |
16:09 |
Fuchs |
celeron55: query? |
16:09 |
celeron55 |
feel free to |
16:09 |
Fuchs |
Krock: we can't as we have zero server side logging and don't want it, but: you were in the channel at that time :p |
16:10 |
Krock |
ah, you meant that. I thought you were refering to something that you said even earlier |
16:12 |
garywhite |
The channel is unowned |
16:13 |
DS-minetest |
to write that whole hello? X3 |
16:13 |
DS-minetest |
i would need Minetestbot there |
16:13 |
DS-minetest |
to greet her |
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16:21 |
Fuchs |
garywhite: it's not registered currently if you mean #minetest-hello |
16:21 |
Fuchs |
but as the project just passed our registration, technically the group contact can ask us staff to op up $whoever |
16:22 |
red-005 |
Fuchs, it seems to be a temporary channel |
16:22 |
Fuchs |
red-005: yes |
16:22 |
* DS-minetest |
has added it to the automatic join list |
16:25 |
paramat |
!tell LazyJ see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17397 . it would be very difficult or impossible to implement the options as you suggest, what we have currently only just works |
16:25 |
ShadowBot |
paramat: O.K. |
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16:29 |
red-005 |
oh neat I see you already have group cloaks |
16:31 |
Jordach |
>not on regulars table |
16:31 |
Jordach |
*autistic screeching* |
16:33 |
* red-005 |
makes a pointless comment about anti-vaccers |
16:33 |
* red-005 |
is now banned from ##steam |
16:34 |
garywhite |
why'd you get banned from steam? |
16:34 |
garywhite |
##steam* |
16:36 |
celeron55 |
proof that minetest is now a registered group on freenode: /whois celeron55 |
16:36 |
red-005 |
it's a vac-ban joke |
16:37 |
VanessaE |
nice work, celeron55 |
16:37 |
paramat |
good |
16:39 |
VanessaE |
thanks again, Fuchs |
16:39 |
Fuchs |
welcome :) |
16:39 |
Fuchs |
sorry for the wait |
16:41 |
Jordach |
that took 5 years lmao |
16:41 |
Fuchs |
well, no, it took a bit longer than it should have, but way below the years mark :p |
16:41 |
celeron55 |
well, the first 5 years were me |
16:41 |
celeron55 |
the rest were freenode |
16:42 |
Fuchs |
I think it was a month or two for us, which is bad, we are fixing this currently |
16:42 |
Jordach |
Fuchs, my sarcasm is usually on time, much like japanese trains, unless it runs a minute late, then you get a card with one free remark |
16:42 |
Fuchs |
\o/ |
16:43 |
Fuchs |
I am Swiss, I am used to trains being on time and I am super exact about it! |
16:43 |
* Jordach |
looks at British railways |
16:43 |
Jordach |
*unintelligible autistic screeching* |
16:43 |
Fuchs |
anway, sorry for the wait, it took us longer than it should have, but the freenode side is now either sorted or, for the open points, can be sorted by the minetest group contact. I'm afraid there isn't much we can do about off-freenode stuff, but I gave some advice on that :) |
16:44 |
Fuchs |
Jordach: yes, I used these for a bit, wasn't too bad, but it was mostly from London to Banbury or from the latter to either Oxford or ... what was it ... lots of Canals ... anyway, don't know much of it |
16:44 |
Fuchs |
Birmingham, that's the one |
16:45 |
Jordach |
Fuchs, large admin groups remind me of this http://i.imgur.com/V7Zhpsm.mp4 |
16:47 |
Fuchs |
I shall drop out of various channels now, and shall probably also drop out of this one once more things are settled, feel free to poke staff (including me) if needed, and: no offense, I am just in too many channels |
16:47 |
Fuchs |
I shall give your lovely project a go at one point, because I just recently for the first time played Minecraft (on my Switch, I am not a PC gamer, as I only have underpowered laptops) and I like it, so I shall try minetest given I ♥ FOSS. |
16:48 |
VanessaE |
I might suggest staying in here for now? |
16:48 |
VanessaE |
just...my little voice says to. :) |
16:48 |
celeron55 |
can i drop out from here? i'm on too many channels too! |
16:48 |
Fuchs |
yes, hence "when more things have settled" :) |
16:48 |
celeron55 |
lol |
16:48 |
Fuchs |
just so people aren't suprirsed when I suddenly drop out in a couple of days (hopefully!) |
16:48 |
Shara |
celeron55: Don't you dare :) |
16:48 |
VanessaE |
celeron55: nope, you're stuck here :) |
16:48 |
* VanessaE |
glues celeron55's pants to the chair |
16:49 |
celeron55 |
but it's painful! this is channel 25 |
16:49 |
Fuchs |
and I might submit a GitHub issue if minetest doesn't contain foxes, because that is what minecraft lacks, wolves are boring |
16:49 |
Shara |
Drop the others :D |
16:49 |
Fuchs |
celeron55: ahaha, 25 ... |
16:49 |
* red-005 |
waits for celeron55 to escape with the chair |
16:49 |
Fuchs |
celeron55: most of us have a three digit amount :( |
16:49 |
VanessaE |
O_O |
16:49 |
red-005 |
Fuchs, wow |
16:49 |
VanessaE |
hell I thought I was on too many as it is, and I'm, on like, 10. |
16:49 |
shivajiva |
only 25? pssh! |
16:49 |
Fuchs |
life is hard etc. |
16:49 |
Shara |
Fuchs: My server has foxes anyway, but I don't think many do :) |
16:50 |
VanessaE |
s/,\ o/\ o/ |
16:50 |
red-005 |
my client hangs on start up with only ~50-60 |
16:50 |
Fuchs |
Shara: good, then I know what server I shall test it on once I find the time :) |
16:50 |
* nore |
has about 120-130 open buffers... |
16:50 |
Fuchs |
nore: not all of them channels I guess, because our limit for users is 120 |
16:50 |
Fuchs |
but yes, that is "many channels" :) |
16:51 |
nore |
Fuchs: well, 60-70 channels, but on two separate networks |
16:51 |
Fuchs |
ah, yes, that also works |
16:51 |
nore |
only about 10-15 on freenode I think |
16:51 |
* Shara |
finds more than 10 already annoys |
16:51 |
red-005 |
I'm connected to 3 networks |
16:51 |
nore |
but I had to ask the admins of the other network to raise the limit which was 30 channels last year :) |
16:52 |
garywhite |
I'm on 18 channels on freenode |
16:53 |
Fuchs |
I'm on 6 networks, but fortunately only in a handful of channels on most that aren't freenode. And as per above, I try to keep the count low for freenode as well |
16:54 |
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16:54 |
VanessaE |
9 on freenode, 3 on another network |
16:55 |
celeron55 |
i think the productivity of a person outside IRC is calculated as ((25 - buffer count) / 0.25) % |
17:08 |
celeron55 |
(actually, the other thing that would make sense would be to just kick OC out from #-project and leave it be) |
17:08 |
celeron55 |
oops, where's my [off] |
17:09 |
Calinou |
btw Fuchs, long time no see |
17:09 |
Fuchs |
Calinou: your name is familiar, but I can't put it in a place yet. Hi though :) |
17:09 |
Calinou |
who will have a Minetest group cloak by the way? |
17:09 |
red-005 |
Fuchs, I know that feeling |
17:09 |
celeron55 |
Calinou: will be decided much later; not important now |
17:09 |
Calinou |
right |
17:11 |
Fuchs |
okay, I'm off for a while, if you need staff assistance in the meantime: check if someone is on /stats p and feel free to query them, else (or in general) feel free to poke #freenode, colleagues are informed about * |
17:11 |
Fuchs |
(which is a great exaggeration, but they know what they need to know!) |
17:20 |
red-005 |
and sadly sometimes windows 10 |
17:20 |
red-005 |
(yes I know the horror) |
17:20 |
Krock |
well, no problem with https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying |
17:28 |
garywhite |
It's a quote from Frasier, that got reused on Big Bang Theory |
17:33 |
CWz |
for a seconed i though we had another 'light' illegal andriod fork |
17:34 |
rubenwardy |
This topic should probably been in offtopic: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17576&start=25 |
17:35 |
Shara |
It seriously should be |
17:36 |
Shara |
The forum is so full of... stuff I don't want to look through... that I barely look there |
17:37 |
* VanessaE |
moves it |
17:37 |
Shara |
Thanks :) |
17:37 |
VanessaE |
yw |
17:37 |
rubenwardy |
thanks :D |
17:37 |
Shara |
I saw it earlier, then forgot to say something |
17:37 |
rubenwardy |
banished to whenst they came |
17:38 |
nore |
can't we just rename the "Offtopic" section to "Shitposting" to give it a more accurate name? |
17:38 |
paramat |
well, i don't know if we'll rename, but is has ben seriously discussed and i just hope we do |
17:38 |
paramat |
heh |
17:39 |
paramat |
*been |
17:40 |
Krock |
nore, it got quite spammy there and actually this wouldn't be a bad idea |
17:40 |
nore |
(or nuke this section entirely) |
17:40 |
Krock |
kids ould cry |
17:40 |
Krock |
*would |
17:41 |
nore |
-_- |
17:42 |
paramat |
i like 'minetest' too, but i think it's a silly name we tend to get used to and come to like. if you consider it freshly it's so bad it's funny :] |
17:42 |
VanessaE |
heh |
17:42 |
rubenwardy |
^ |
17:42 |
VanessaE |
then let's change iot. |
17:42 |
VanessaE |
it* |
17:42 |
paramat |
how about 'excavation examination'? ;] |
17:42 |
VanessaE |
I created this poll many moons ago: http://www.strawpoll.me/32807 |
17:42 |
VanessaE |
the first time the subject came up with any serious discussion around itr |
17:43 |
VanessaE |
it* |
17:43 |
paramat |
yes and those are awful names |
17:43 |
Shara |
SUggestions I've seen are simply terrible |
17:43 |
VanessaE |
I collected options from everyone who made suggestions; The Open Minetest Engine/TOME was mine. |
17:44 |
paramat |
TOME is not so bad |
17:44 |
Krock |
"Minetest core" is just fine |
17:44 |
VanessaE |
no, it really isn't, Krock ... |
17:44 |
Krock |
accept my opinion! :P |
17:44 |
VanessaE |
your opinions is already there was "keep the old name!" :) |
17:44 |
VanessaE |
-s |
17:45 |
paramat |
anyway, the best thing to do is to let c55 choose the new name |
17:45 |
Shara |
yes keeping the name has twice the votes of the next highest there... |
17:45 |
Shara |
yet* |
17:45 |
VanessaE |
paramat: "I let celeron55 name my game engines" :) |
17:45 |
rubenwardy |
I voted for that one ^ |
17:45 |
rubenwardy |
back in the day |
17:45 |
VanessaE |
(that was the "CowboyNeal" option :D ) |
17:45 |
CWz |
So what are the new names suggested thus far? |
17:45 |
paramat |
.. to avoid unbearable bikeshedding and all these unimaginative names |
17:45 |
VanessaE |
paramat: fair enough |
17:46 |
paramat |
:] |
17:46 |
Shara |
To be honest, just about all the names in that poll make me want to yawn |
17:46 |
CWz |
would the new name contain related minetest/craft words, i.e block,node,craft |
17:46 |
paramat |
hopefully not |
17:46 |
CWz |
where the poll |
17:47 |
VanessaE |
CWz: scroll back, but that's an old, outdated poll |
17:47 |
VanessaE |
I only linked here for context |
17:47 |
paramat |
and for me, word combinations containing 'free' or 'open' are just as bad |
17:48 |
Shara |
agreed with paramat |
17:48 |
CWz |
boy those names make me want to get bitten by a rattlesnake |
17:48 |
CWz |
provided the damage is disabled |
17:48 |
Wayward_One |
I still like the recently suggested "Kuutio" |
17:48 |
garywhite |
I prefer Minetest because it makes it seem more like a MC-type game, that's the main reason that I started using MT, more realistic than MC but no $25 to play |
17:48 |
Shara |
Wayward_One: That was the only suggestion I've heard so far that I didn't hate :) |
17:49 |
CWz |
minevana? |
17:49 |
CWz |
^dumb name |
17:49 |
paramat |
a MC reference is something to avoid i feel, so many names try to make a link to MC |
17:49 |
Krock |
Burrito Core |
17:49 |
CWz |
so no names with mine in it |
17:49 |
CWz |
? |
17:50 |
Wayward_One |
Shara: same :) |
17:50 |
CWz |
Okay original name it is |
17:50 |
CWz |
this should take about an undisclosed ammount of time |
17:50 |
CWz |
to finish |
17:51 |
VanessaE |
how about Cubic Dreams :) |
17:51 |
VanessaE |
ok that sucks too :P |
17:51 |
CWz |
sounds like a toilet papper manufacturing plant |
17:51 |
garywhite |
Either way, I think it'd be smart to wait until a major release to change any names, so at least wait for 0.5 |
17:51 |
Shara |
Haha |
17:51 |
VanessaE |
wat |
17:51 |
CWz |
0.6 |
17:51 |
garywhite |
or 0.6 |
17:52 |
CWz |
or 1.0 |
17:52 |
Shara |
1.0 :P |
17:52 |
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17:52 |
garywhite |
1.0 |
17:52 |
CWz |
Blokadia |
17:52 |
CWz |
lame... |
17:52 |
CWz |
wait gimmic |
17:53 |
CWz |
bloqadia |
17:53 |
CWz |
ehk |
17:53 |
CWz |
coming up with names is hard |
17:53 |
* Shara |
blocks it |
17:53 |
Amaz |
I do like Mesetint :) |
17:53 |
nore |
based on the current trend 1.0 will take at least 1000 years to be released :) |
17:53 |
Shara |
Yea, why I'm not trying |
17:53 |
CWz |
BloXandria |
17:56 |
CWz |
N.M.C.R |
17:56 |
CWz |
Okay i give up |
17:56 |
Wayward_One |
MIM: Minetest Isn't Minecraft |
17:56 |
Wayward_One |
:3 |
17:57 |
CWz |
Not A Mine craft Ripoff |
17:57 |
CWz |
Ello there Sailward |
17:57 |
paramat |
here is our previous discussion on this topic http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-04-27#i_4900532 |
17:57 |
Wayward_One |
Ahoy thar Mr. Wormz :) |
17:59 |
paramat |
next release probably will be 0.5 so a good time for a new name |
18:00 |
CWz |
is Qublox taken? |
18:00 |
CWz |
sadly that the best i can come up with |
18:00 |
paramat |
unfortunately it has 'blox' in it |
18:01 |
paramat |
see http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-04-27#i_4900532 |
18:01 |
paramat |
oops wrong link |
18:01 |
paramat |
https://www.reddit.com/r/VoxelGameDev/comments/why8x/the_big_list_of_block_engines/ |
18:02 |
paramat |
lots of uncreative names |
18:02 |
nore |
open-x-g-k-craft |
18:02 |
Fixer |
Krock: iirc MS bypasses hosts file, you need to block with firewall |
18:02 |
nore |
(doesn't that look great?) |
18:03 |
paramat |
'Meinkrampft' |
18:03 |
VanessaE |
... |
18:03 |
Krock |
JA |
18:04 |
CWz |
Blokenheim |
18:04 |
Fixer |
TOME is alreadt taken by another OSS project |
18:04 |
Krock |
nore, open-x-g-k-craft 0.5.0-dirty-f93ab12-debug |
18:05 |
Fixer |
name must be easily rememberable |
18:05 |
* Krock |
tries to upload 17.7 MiB .. he noticed that it takes over 15 minutes |
18:06 |
nore |
Krock: is that your new name suggestion? |
18:06 |
Krock |
nore, no. just playing with the thought to call it " open-x-g-k-craft " |
18:06 |
nore |
it might be a name that is quite hard to remember if it's 17.7 MiB long |
18:06 |
Fixer |
nore: that the worst |
18:06 |
Fixer |
nore: i do like Open* at start of the name |
18:07 |
nore |
Krock: nono, I was talking about your upload :) |
18:07 |
Krock |
lol |
18:07 |
* nore |
should really get back to work |
18:07 |
Krock |
well great, the upload corrupted |
18:07 |
Fixer |
OpenVoxel for example |
18:07 |
Fixer |
since it is engine |
18:07 |
Fixer |
and Minetest as game for it |
18:08 |
paramat |
good grief |
18:08 |
Fixer |
but nice |
18:08 |
Fixer |
OpenTTD |
18:08 |
Fixer |
OpenRA |
18:08 |
Fixer |
OpenXCOM |
18:08 |
Krock |
OpenOffice |
18:08 |
Fixer |
OpenRCT2 iirc |
18:08 |
Fixer |
OpenBox (i hope) |
18:09 |
Fixer |
one sec |
18:09 |
Fixer |
openage |
18:09 |
Fixer |
openGTA (o_O) |
18:10 |
Fixer |
OpenJDK |
18:10 |
Fixer |
or... |
18:10 |
Fixer |
yeah it is |
18:10 |
paramat |
i suggest avoiding varying combinations of 'mine' 'craft' 'dig' 'build' 'cube' 'voxel' 'block' 'blox' 'world' 'free' 'open' |
18:10 |
red-005 |
open roblox |
18:10 |
Fixer |
OpenMOO2 |
18:10 |
CWz |
dang |
18:11 |
CWz |
so that just leaves Würfelhaven |
18:11 |
CWz |
as my only suggestion |
18:12 |
nore |
mine-build-dig-and-craft-in-an-open-world-of-cubes |
18:12 |
Calinou |
"Open(something)" is often viewed as unimaginative and sometimes even pejorative |
18:12 |
Calinou |
"Libre(something)" is only slightly better |
18:12 |
Calinou |
(look at the people dissing OpenGL and praising Vulkan) |
18:13 |
Calinou |
if you want your software to be popular, it has to contain an innuendo pun! /s |
18:13 |
Fixer |
OpenPEPE |
18:13 |
Fixer |
downside is trolls |
18:14 |
paramat |
lol |
18:15 |
Krock |
paramat, I recorded a video of my sn*ak PR and the "official" one. Trying to upload it now... |
18:15 |
CWz |
Creative Sam |
18:15 |
paramat |
yeah will review your latest soon |
18:15 |
Jordach |
FairCube Engine :P |
18:16 |
* CWz |
gives up |
18:16 |
Krock |
uploaded this file about 5 times now, just always the very beginning of it >.< |
18:16 |
Fixer |
CWz: Serious Sam / Creative Sam |
18:16 |
Krock |
since this copper cable connection doesn't seem to like uploads |
18:16 |
paramat |
'Plunderassessment' |
18:16 |
Jordach |
paramat, fuck just had the best one |
18:16 |
Jordach |
Quarry |
18:17 |
Fixer |
IrrlichtQuarry |
18:17 |
CWz |
I don't think you can name a game without the name being related to the gameplay somehow. it would be like naming Team Fortress 2. 9 guys and Toilet |
18:17 |
Fixer |
lol |
18:17 |
paramat |
hehe |
18:17 |
paramat |
well you can |
18:18 |
paramat |
that approach is what leads to boring names, oh, 'boring' .. |
18:20 |
CWz |
we need a name that is original like Narbacular drop was to portal 2 |
18:20 |
Fixer |
CyberCube |
18:20 |
red-005 |
punch stuff |
18:20 |
Fixer |
CYBERCUBE |
18:20 |
Fixer |
punching |
18:20 |
benrob0329 |
garywhite: because its a peice of useable history |
18:21 |
paramat |
'Boringexperiment' |
18:21 |
CWz |
Atheoria |
18:21 |
Calinou |
libmining-ng |
18:21 |
Fixer |
lol please no |
18:22 |
Fixer |
no libmining-ng |
18:22 |
Fixer |
thats something like fork of something obscure from 1970 |
18:24 |
CWz |
ZoxxoZ |
18:25 |
CWz |
^ now i am beyond out of idea |
18:26 |
* CWz |
leaves renaming minetest to the the geniuses |
18:27 |
benrob0329 |
So whilst i was mowing the lawn, I thought about how imgui (or any other gui, for thar matter) could be sent to the client, as its function based |
18:27 |
benrob0329 |
And it hit me, client side modding |
18:28 |
benrob0329 |
You could seperate the gui code into ots own script, and send it to the client |
18:28 |
benrob0329 |
Boom, client side gui that triggers server functions |
18:30 |
benrob0329 |
(Ik it'd be more complicated than that, but typing out everything rn would be a pain since I have research to go.do before I get a full plan) |
18:39 |
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18:40 |
CWz |
i bet VanessaE could come up with a good name |
18:41 |
Krock |
paramat, my result for master: http://krock-works.16mb.com/u/sneak_master_febd07f.mp4 |
18:42 |
Krock |
the other is still uploading.. |
18:42 |
Krock |
with legendary 4.1 KiB/s |
18:43 |
paramat |
hm 'video format or MIME type not supported' |
18:43 |
Krock |
xvid4.. shouldn't be a problem? |
18:43 |
rubenwardy |
I had to download and open in VLC |
18:43 |
Krock |
opens in the embedded VLC here, FF |
18:44 |
paramat |
ah ok |
18:45 |
* CWz |
wonders howmany feminists were offended by the wget download progress bar |
18:45 |
paramat |
ok got it |
18:46 |
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18:47 |
Shara |
We seem to be collecting nerzhuls! |
18:47 |
CWz |
Gotta get 'em all! |
18:48 |
CWz |
damn one got awawy |
18:48 |
Shara |
:( |
18:49 |
Krock |
lol rubenwardy |
18:51 |
VanessaE |
CWz: I have no ideas for names. |
18:59 |
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19:15 |
tenplus1 |
hi folks |
19:15 |
Raven262 |
Hello tenplus1 |
19:15 |
tenplus1 |
hi raven |
19:15 |
Amaz |
Hi ten :) |
19:16 |
tenplus1 |
hi amaz :P |
19:19 |
Shara |
Hello :) |
19:19 |
tenplus1 |
hi shara :P |
19:21 |
benrob0329 |
hi tenplus1 |
19:21 |
tenplus1 |
hi benrob, nice desktop btw |
19:22 |
benrob0329 |
thnx |
19:22 |
benrob0329 |
not sure if im going to go for the gaps look yet |
19:22 |
benrob0329 |
currently trying to get mpd running |
19:22 |
tenplus1 |
sweet, I used mpd a lot :) |
19:22 |
tenplus1 |
settled on audacious now |
19:24 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: tamed and protected mobs can be killed? |
19:24 |
tenplus1 |
tamed and protected mobs cannot be killed inside owners protected area, only outside |
19:24 |
tenplus1 |
hi WhoAreYou |
19:24 |
WhoAreYou |
Hello 10+1 |
19:25 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: my sheeps are under protection, yet i lost like most of them to something unknown |
19:25 |
Fixer |
tenplus1: one guy also said you can kill protected sheep with the egg, not sure what that means |
19:25 |
tenplus1 |
they can still be killed by mobs and usual environment damage... just not players |
19:25 |
tenplus1 |
ohh, if you throw a chicken egg it can harm mobs |
19:26 |
Raven262 |
Well, i say that is one creative idea +1 |
19:26 |
tenplus1 |
lol |
19:30 |
benrob0329 |
something using a source based distro teaches you, is use simple programs |
19:30 |
benrob0329 |
they compile easier |
19:30 |
benrob0329 |
/faster |
19:30 |
tenplus1 |
:P |
19:31 |
garywhite |
hi WAY |
19:31 |
tenplus1 |
hi gary |
19:31 |
garywhite |
hi ten |
19:32 |
Fixer |
https://i.imgur.com/6AOia8s.png fuck not this again |
19:33 |
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19:33 |
Raven262 |
What an odd structure, Fixer |
19:33 |
Raven262 |
What are those gray things on your screenshot? |
19:34 |
tenplus1 |
hi paramat |
19:34 |
paramat |
nice architecture |
19:34 |
Fixer |
Raven262: where? |
19:34 |
tenplus1 |
?? |
19:34 |
Raven262 |
On the water? |
19:35 |
tenplus1 |
illusionary :D |
19:35 |
Raven262 |
How or what is that? xD |
19:35 |
Fixer |
Raven262: protector blocks? |
19:36 |
Raven262 |
I doubt it, i see gray line things on the screenshot, and it is not cause of my screen. |
19:36 |
paramat |
reminds me of modernist like le corbusier |
19:36 |
Fixer |
why the fuck they build on water... |
19:37 |
Fixer |
my view is ruined again |
19:37 |
Shara |
Fixer: original spawn of Red Cat would give you nightmares |
19:37 |
Shara |
They ran out of land and just... never stopped. |
19:38 |
rubywarden |
On redcrab, someone built a massive wall right next to my private estate |
19:38 |
Fixer |
gonna a build a wall if that structure will be that ugly |
19:38 |
rubywarden |
like, if it was a house it would be fine as it's reasonably far awal |
19:38 |
Shara |
I will now only build on servers where I can make a ridiculously huge protected area first |
19:39 |
Shara |
I freaked out when someone started building pixelart next to http://rc.minetest.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DeepWinter02.png |
19:39 |
Raven262 |
http://i.imgur.com/RWjJunC.png these |
19:40 |
Shara |
Raven262: pretty sure those are protectors |
19:40 |
Raven262 |
A what? |
19:40 |
Raven262 |
Never seen those things in my life xD |
19:40 |
Raven262 |
Well, there is first time for everything. |
19:41 |
tenplus1 |
paramat: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1732 |
19:41 |
tenplus1 |
you misunderstood what I said dude... I explained a little more |
19:46 |
tenplus1 |
http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/6a9e0f9e-turn-around.jpg |
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19:53 |
tenplus1 |
hi nore |
19:54 |
nore |
hi |
20:02 |
paramat |
ok |
20:05 |
Fixer |
Raven262: protectors |
20:05 |
Raven262 |
Well, that is one hell of a ping, Fixer |
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20:06 |
red-005 |
hi man_arab ? |
20:06 |
red-005 |
whoever you are |
20:06 |
Fixer |
was thinking on some concepts... https://i.imgur.com/vIAoBGQ.png |
20:06 |
Fixer |
the wall |
20:06 |
Fixer |
does not blend with water well :( |
20:07 |
Raven262 |
Yes, cyan wool + pinewood makes a nice colour scheme. |
20:09 |
Fixer |
i know only one creative way how to hide that ugly house |
20:09 |
Fixer |
by building a nice boat |
20:09 |
Fixer |
ship |
20:10 |
Raven262 |
Or... an aircraft carrier! |
20:10 |
Raven262 |
:O |
20:10 |
Fixer |
thats too much |
20:10 |
Raven262 |
Yeah, might be. |
20:10 |
Fixer |
i've seen those already in minetest |
20:10 |
Raven262 |
I saw only one. |
20:10 |
Fixer |
Redcrab? |
20:11 |
Fixer |
Landrush? |
20:11 |
Raven262 |
No, i saw it on a map converted from MC |
20:11 |
Raven262 |
The large map, has soem buildings too |
20:11 |
Raven262 |
*some |
20:12 |
Raven262 |
But i can't remember the name. |
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tenplus1 |
hi rubenwardy |
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20:27 |
Calinou |
http://www.pcgamer.com/meet-the-dad-who-quit-his-job-to-run-a-minecraft-server-for-autistic-kids/ |
20:27 |
Calinou |
hmm, there was a Minetest forums thread about that server once |
20:27 |
Calinou |
apparently they get $1,550 of Patreon donations a month |
20:27 |
tenplus1 |
oof |
20:29 |
* Shara |
would love to see things like that take off in MT |
20:30 |
tenplus1 |
start a channel with a good cause like that and it may happen :D |
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20:34 |
Shara |
I wouldn't have the resources sadly. |
20:34 |
rubenwardy |
hi tenplus1 |
20:34 |
rubenwardy |
hi all |
20:34 |
Shara |
Can barely keep up with the servers I already run |
20:34 |
Shara |
HI rubenwardy |
20:34 |
tenplus1 |
heh |
20:35 |
rubenwardy |
I'm going to use my time well this summer |
20:35 |
rubenwardy |
planning on making a new server |
20:35 |
* tenplus1 |
opens a server for the blind... |
20:35 |
Shara |
rubenwardy: what kind? |
20:36 |
Shara |
My third one is in the planning stages right now. |
20:36 |
rubenwardy |
I want to make a capitalism server, where players create shops and distribution networks |
20:36 |
rubenwardy |
not sure how to make the code work |
20:36 |
rubenwardy |
over ambitious, as usual |
20:36 |
tenplus1 |
Xanadu is kinda like that already rubenwardy :P |
20:36 |
tenplus1 |
we have shopping centres |
20:36 |
rubenwardy |
nah |
20:37 |
garywhite |
tenplus1: That's kinda hard to do cause how are you supposed to play without seeing what you're doing? |
20:37 |
rubenwardy |
Xanadu may have an economy, but not in the way I want |
20:37 |
tenplus1 |
braille display gary |
20:37 |
tenplus1 |
ahh, what kinda economy you after ? |
20:37 |
Shara |
My Box server is ridiculously over ambitious as well. |
20:37 |
garywhite |
What about Minetest: Colorblind Edition? |
20:37 |
rubenwardy |
Semi-EVE, but mostly automated |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
I have a rough idea, just need to fill it out |
20:38 |
rubenwardy |
lel |
20:38 |
Shara |
I'll eventually either need to spend a huge amount of time building, or some builders who have a clue about level design |
20:38 |
garywhite |
rubenwardy: Are you going for a server that is more like a realistic economy? |
20:40 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, but not loyally realist |
20:41 |
garywhite |
OK, but I may know of a mod that could be useful |
20:41 |
tenplus1 |
bonemeal mod works a little TOO well; https://img.banggood.com/thumb/water/oaupload/banggood/images/26/59/e50b5c0a-8a32-4502-b830-8621d498aef8.jpg |
20:42 |
garywhite |
rubenwardy: https://github.com/Tmanyo/bank_accounts |
20:42 |
rubenwardy |
oh nice, bookmarked |
20:46 |
tenplus1 |
wow, nice mod... pretty indepth |
20:46 |
tenplus1 |
nite folks |
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20:47 |
garywhite |
night ten |
21:15 |
red-005 |
night |
21:16 |
Fixer |
MAAAAAAAAAAKE A MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE |
21:18 |
Fixer |
bookmarked that too^^ |
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22:11 |
paramat |
another rain mod with blue rain :] |
22:16 |
Shara |
paramat: Nooooooooooooo! |
22:18 |
Fixer |
paramat: never seen blue rain... |
22:21 |
* Jordach |
starts singing about Purple Rain |
22:21 |
Fixer |
haze |
22:21 |
Calinou |
<rubenwardy> I want to make a capitalism server, where players create shops and distribution networks |
22:21 |
Calinou |
heh |
22:21 |
Calinou |
problem is, it won't work, most players don't understand how economy works |
22:22 |
Shara |
Calinou: but that's why it will be interesting :) |
22:22 |
Jordach |
and then some communist will ask you to match me and then go no refunds |
22:23 |
Jordach |
bernie panders ecksdee |
22:23 |
Jordach |
Kappa |
22:24 |
paramat |
hehe |
22:24 |
Fixer |
anarcho-capitalism in minetest |
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