Time Nick Message 00:21 benrob0329 !tell tenplus1 http://i.imgur.com/zLhdmjx.jpg 00:21 ShadowBot benrob0329: O.K. 01:43 benrob0329 o/ kaeza 01:46 kaeza o/ 02:28 octacian Well, I've made a new personal record xD Third mod release in the past 2 days: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=17607&p=269860#p269860 04:46 benrob0329 to everyone who says terminals arent awesome: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoKj9QiFR0k 05:21 LazyJ !tell paramat I read that you might be working on a way to add back some of the old sneak glitch. The sneak glitch worked well for the way things are done on my server and I would like to have its useful parts back, if possible. My thoughts are to add the parts as minetest.conf options: Enable sneak elevators = true/false, Sneak Elevator Speed = [0-100] (ridiculously fast worked for my server), Sneak Elevator No Fall Damange = 05:21 ShadowBot LazyJ: O.K. 05:21 LazyJ true/false, Safe Landing on Slabs = true/false, Jump from Sneak = true/false. Thanks. ;) 05:27 LazyJ !tell Fixer Thanks for contacting me through forum PM, IRC, and on my server about the WorldEdit exploit. That was the way the situation should have been handled. 05:27 ShadowBot LazyJ: O.K. 05:27 LazyJ These late nights are killing me. :/ 08:46 Shara Morning all 08:48 shivajiva Morning 11:01 CWz Hey everybody 12:44 Jordach VanessaE, my ginger kitty has some form of cancer 12:44 Jordach possibly for years un-noticed 12:44 VanessaE aw :( 12:44 Jordach he's been curled up on my lap at night 13:03 Calinou hi 13:03 Calinou truth has been told 13:03 Calinou https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxmasterrace/comments/6bf46m/them_i_need_photoshop_before_switching_me_what_do/ 13:03 Calinou Jordach: ^ 13:03 Calinou (for the end result, see 2nd image of album) 13:07 Fixer ＣＹＢＥＲＴＥＬＥＧＲＡＰＨ 13:26 Fixer Calinou: yeah, 95% does not need photoshop and it is enough to use some open/free alternative 13:27 Calinou b-b-but I need it for shitposting memes! 13:27 Fixer you can literally shitpost via paint.exe from Windows 95 13:27 Calinou b-b-but I want to print my memes so I need CMYK support! 13:28 Fixer paint.exe was my one of the first programs I've seen on W95 13:28 Calinou and my memes ought to be HDR so I need high-precision color depth! 13:28 Fixer some paint memes are brilliant 13:28 Fixer i must say 13:33 Jordach except photoshop doesn't fucking have brush delay when using the brush 13:33 Jordach (in fast strokes) 13:34 Jordach GIMP in my experience has been slow as fuck even on Windows 13:34 Jordach even selection by colour took an age 13:39 Raven262 GIMP slow? 13:39 Raven262 What kind of taster is your pc? 13:39 Raven262 xD 13:39 Raven262 *toaster 13:39 Raven262 damn 13:40 Raven262 well, i guess it depends on the size of the graphic you are editing. 13:45 Calinou yeah, there is significant brush delay with large brushes in GIMP 13:45 Calinou but GIMP is not an advanced drawing tool anyway 13:45 Calinou give Krita a try 13:47 Raven262 I can confirm the apparent lag on the large brushes, also it lags when using bucket fill on large areas. 13:48 Raven262 But I haven't noticed selection lag, never. 13:48 Raven262 And i have worked with GIMP for some 2.5 years now, mostly small images though. 13:48 Fixer not fast enough PC, Xeon + 32GB + GF Titan is recommended 13:49 Raven262 lol 13:49 Calinou Fixer: consumer Skylake/Kaby Lake boards allow for 64 GB of RAM now 13:49 Calinou and prosumer 128 GB I think 13:51 Fixer prosumer feels like scummy word 13:52 Fixer like shit for rich assholes 14:09 Calinou yep 14:09 Calinou that's basically it 14:09 Calinou "consumer who wants to feel pro" 14:11 Fixer Calinou: we will not call him professional, he is just wannaby asshole consumer 14:12 Calinou amateursumer 14:13 Fixer a dot-com era business term meaning "production by consumers" 14:13 Fixer wtf 14:14 Fixer * semiprofessional 14:14 Fixer anarchism on same page 14:14 Fixer ok 14:15 benrob0329 Fixer: I haven't noticed, but maybe that's cause I'm not on a potato :-) 14:16 Fixer potato power 14:17 Calinou hi benrob0329 :) 14:17 Fixer are there per world settings? i see i need to enable_tnt in minetest.conf... but what if I have multiple games/worlds? 14:18 Calinou not sure if there's per-world settings exposable to mods 14:18 Calinou world.mt seems to be reserved to core use 14:19 Calinou same for map_meta.txt 14:19 benrob0329 Hi Calinou 14:20 benrob0329 A friend of mine said gimp sucks recently 14:20 benrob0329 So I just dumped about 5 really good pictures in discord that were supposedly made in gimp 14:22 benrob0329 And if you really hate the interface of gimp, use krita. 14:22 Calinou benrob0329: did you see the reddit thread I posted? ;) 14:22 Calinou this is exactly 90% of GIMP haters 14:23 benrob0329 Yes, exactly 14:23 benrob0329 He says gimp sucks 14:23 Calinou some things are confusing to do in GIMP, like drawing shapes (but you get used to it) 14:23 Calinou it's also GTK+2-based so it doesn't have real hiDPI support, native file managers… 14:23 Calinou Krita fixes both, by using Qt 5 14:24 Calinou but unfortunately, Krita is mostly for drawing 14:24 benrob0329 But then proceeds to slap some text on a MC screenshot and call it a day 14:24 Calinou I wish it was capable of doing some photo manipulation :( 14:24 Calinou this way we'd have an unified tool for everything 14:24 benrob0329 can't even put a drop shadow on it because this online editor is so bad 14:25 benrob0329 yeah, krita is nice though 14:25 benrob0329 Did a bit of pixel art animation in it 14:25 benrob0329 But I'm much too used to gimp for much else 14:26 benrob0329 I can just work faster when using gimps supposedly "clunky" interface 14:28 Calinou GIMP 2.10 isn't happening soon though, and GIMP 3 is uncertain 14:28 Calinou (GTK+ 3's Windows/macOS support is still half-assed today, and was non-existent until 2013) 14:28 Calinou [libgnome intensifies] 14:29 benrob0329 Imgui ftw 14:29 Calinou imgui does not make native GUIs 14:29 Calinou and is not suited to anything else than debug GUIs in games or other realtime applications 14:29 Calinou for proper game GUIs, use whatever your engine offers, or Nuklear 14:29 benrob0329 heh 14:30 benrob0329 Hold on, I have examples 14:30 Calinou https://github.com/vurtun/nuklear 14:30 benrob0329 >C code 14:30 Calinou imgui is great to make a GUI that exposes information for developers, modders, etc 14:30 Calinou but don't use it to make GUIs that can be seen by end users 14:31 Calinou very few game GUIs are modeled like this for example: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/ocornut/imgui/web/v143/skinning_sample_02.png 14:31 Calinou and this seems to be what imgui primarily offers 14:31 benrob0329 https://github.com/ocornut/imgui/issues/973 14:31 benrob0329 Second screenshot down 14:32 benrob0329 Yes, its mostly debug guis and POCs 14:32 Calinou exactly 14:33 Calinou things like Overwatch would never use that :) 14:33 benrob0329 But with some theming it can be a very nice UI for many tasks 14:33 Calinou (there is no concept of animations or transitions in imgui, it seems, by the way) 14:33 benrob0329 Its not made for that 14:33 Calinou although Godot doesn't offer that either 14:33 benrob0329 CeGui is made for that 14:33 benrob0329 And you know how complicated that is 14:34 Calinou I think Nuklear is the go-to library for custom engines now 14:34 Calinou but if you use Godot, you won't need a GUI library since such a thing is already included, and works (quite) well 14:35 benrob0329 Nuklear is C, C in C++ is not preffered 14:35 Calinou using C libraries in C++ is not a problem at all 14:35 Calinou we do that with Godot all the time 14:35 Calinou and other engines too 14:35 Calinou …SDL is C, not C++ 14:35 benrob0329 but its not as nice 14:35 Calinou and guess what uses SDL? games made with C++! 14:36 Calinou C is far more interoperable than C++ 14:36 benrob0329 SFML is C++, and it has a far less clunky interface 14:36 Calinou you can use C libraries in C++, Java, Python, Rust, Nim, Go, … 14:36 Calinou C++? good luck with that 14:36 Calinou out of the box, you can use C++ libraries in… C++ 14:36 Calinou if you want to use them in other languages, you need to perform two bindings: binding the C++ library to C then to another language (like Rust) 14:37 Calinou (this is what was done for Godot's GDNative) 14:38 benrob0329 if I'm writing a game/program in C++, I do not care about other languages 14:41 nerzhul you can use C++ libs in java/python, rust also :p 14:41 nerzhul benrob0329, i agree with you, C++ for the worl 14:42 rubenwardy C++ has a nonstandardified ABI, which is why it's more painful to bind to other languages 14:42 rubenwardy iirc 14:42 rubenwardy but C++ libraries in C++ is infinitely nicer 14:42 rubenwardy also, o/ 14:42 benrob0329 \o rubenwardy 14:42 rubenwardy I way prefer SFML to SDL 14:42 nerzhul non standard ABI ? and what's the problem with that is STL respect the standard API ? 14:43 nerzhul it's normal for a such low level library to be dependent and near from system 14:43 red-005 should I learn rust? 14:43 nerzhul (note: stdc++ library is very high quality compared to gnustdc++ 14:44 nerzhul bsd stdc++ for the fist occurence 14:44 nerzhul red-005, you can but it's useless for MT :p 14:44 benrob0329 ^^^ 14:44 benrob0329 Rust library support just isn't there yet 14:45 red-005 do any major projects use it? 14:45 nerzhul rust and golang are not stable for long time support (> 5 years) 14:45 benrob0329 There are a LOT of immature projects out there that simply aren't ready 14:45 benrob0329 So id (and am) give a few years 14:47 CWz WhoAreYou, hey guess who visted mtz yesterday 14:47 red-005 mtz? 14:47 WhoAreYou CWz, blonde boy with glasses from USA? 14:47 CWz No deezl 14:47 WhoAreYou Ah, deezl. 14:47 WhoAreYou Thought about ChainLynx first. 14:48 benrob0329 Heh 14:48 nerzhul rust is used by thunderbird and firefox is some parsers, golang is used on influxdb, grafana and many interesting sysadmin tools 14:48 benrob0329 He was on VE servers not too long ago 14:48 nerzhul mtz => minetest zimbabwe ? :D 14:48 benrob0329 Of Zombabwe 14:49 benrob0329 *or 14:49 benrob0329 Sounds like a post apocalyptic video of mine 14:49 benrob0329 "The Zombies of Zimbabwe" 14:50 CWz Zombabwe 14:51 benrob0329 Wb NathanS21 14:51 NathanS21 thanks 14:52 benrob0329 How was the void? 14:54 nerzhul lol i read RichardTheTurkey 14:54 benrob0329 LOL 14:55 Wayward_One hi all 14:56 DS-minetest hi Wayward_One 14:56 Fixer https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C_9IRhKVwAETM18.jpg:large 14:56 Fixer those symbols always scared me 14:57 benrob0329 Oh, I found a VT220 and a new old stock WY-65 on ebay! 14:57 benrob0329 Idk which one to buy 14:58 Fixer benrob0329: price? 14:58 benrob0329 The VT is used but repainted 14:58 benrob0329 $195 and $225 14:59 benrob0329 But new old stock 14:59 benrob0329 That is...amazing 14:59 benrob0329 I could make a video about it 15:02 benrob0329 Funny thiny, Wyse was bought out by/became Dell 15:02 benrob0329 My.monitor is a Dell 15:05 Fixer benrob0329: seen Wyse terminal IRL, holy shit it was hard to look at 15:06 benrob0329 Whar color? 15:06 Fixer benrob0329: grey i think 15:06 Fixer benrob0329: was 20 years ago 15:06 benrob0329 No, CTR color 15:06 Fixer greyish only 15:06 benrob0329 ah 15:06 Fixer benrob0329: what is CTR? 15:06 benrob0329 This one is an Amber 15:07 benrob0329 *CRT 15:07 Fixer oh 15:08 Fixer benrob0329: not sure about colour, was very long ago, but I remember it was painful to look at 15:09 benrob0329 If I do get it, I can recreate this video: https://youtu.be/MoKj9QiFR0k 15:10 Fixer benrob0329: color was probably this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuHnRjxnCiE 15:18 Jordach FeelsGoodMan 15:24 benrob0329 I think I'm going to get it 15:25 benrob0329 Ill need to buy a keyboard, but those aren't hard to find 15:27 Jordach oooooo 15:27 Jordach my PC does Dolby Atmos support for headphones 15:27 Jordach (and Windows Sonic) 15:28 benrob0329 what does atmos do? 15:28 Jordach positional sounds 15:28 Calinou lotsa people on my Zandronum coop server right now :) 15:28 Calinou 7 players 15:28 Calinou I set it up yesterday 15:28 benrob0329 There are so many dolby technologies I can't keep track of them anymore 15:28 CWz What is Zandronum? 15:29 Jordach multiplayer doom 15:29 Jordach (1993) 15:29 Jordach anyone want to play some multiplayer terraria 15:36 * Shara sometimes misses that game 15:41 Fixer nsfw https://twitter.com/destructoid/status/864221687666982913 15:57 Fuchs I'm not entirely sure the 720p is a problem for a game of that kind. I enjoy it, but then I also never played it on PC 15:57 Fuchs (wrt that twitter link) 15:58 red-005 hi Fuchs 15:58 Fuchs I mean ... it's blocks. 15:59 Shara Hi Fuchs 15:59 Fuchs yes, hi 16:03 Calinou Minecraft looks far better at higher resolutions still (far away landscapes) 16:03 Calinou a 1440p monitor is a good upgrade for such games, actually, I find 16:03 Calinou 2160p would be ideal 16:03 Fuchs celeron55: poke 16:06 garywhite benrob0329: Why would you buy a terminal? 16:09 Fuchs celeron55: query? 16:09 celeron55 feel free to 16:09 Fuchs Krock: we can't as we have zero server side logging and don't want it, but: you were in the channel at that time :p 16:10 Krock ah, you meant that. I thought you were refering to something that you said even earlier 16:12 garywhite The channel is unowned 16:13 DS-minetest to write that whole hello? X3 16:13 DS-minetest i would need Minetestbot there 16:13 DS-minetest to greet her 16:21 Fuchs garywhite: it's not registered currently if you mean #minetest-hello 16:21 Fuchs but as the project just passed our registration, technically the group contact can ask us staff to op up $whoever 16:22 red-005 Fuchs, it seems to be a temporary channel 16:22 Fuchs red-005: yes 16:22 * DS-minetest has added it to the automatic join list 16:25 paramat !tell LazyJ see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17397 . it would be very difficult or impossible to implement the options as you suggest, what we have currently only just works 16:25 ShadowBot paramat: O.K. 16:29 red-005 oh neat I see you already have group cloaks 16:31 Jordach >not on regulars table 16:31 Jordach *autistic screeching* 16:33 * red-005 makes a pointless comment about anti-vaccers 16:33 * red-005 is now banned from ##steam 16:34 garywhite why'd you get banned from steam? 16:34 garywhite ##steam* 16:36 celeron55 proof that minetest is now a registered group on freenode: /whois celeron55 16:36 red-005 it's a vac-ban joke 16:37 VanessaE nice work, celeron55 16:37 paramat good 16:39 VanessaE thanks again, Fuchs 16:39 Fuchs welcome :) 16:39 Fuchs sorry for the wait 16:41 Jordach that took 5 years lmao 16:41 Fuchs well, no, it took a bit longer than it should have, but way below the years mark :p 16:41 celeron55 well, the first 5 years were me 16:41 celeron55 the rest were freenode 16:42 Fuchs I think it was a month or two for us, which is bad, we are fixing this currently 16:42 Jordach Fuchs, my sarcasm is usually on time, much like japanese trains, unless it runs a minute late, then you get a card with one free remark 16:42 Fuchs \o/ 16:43 Fuchs I am Swiss, I am used to trains being on time and I am super exact about it! 16:43 * Jordach looks at British railways 16:43 Jordach *unintelligible autistic screeching* 16:43 Fuchs anway, sorry for the wait, it took us longer than it should have, but the freenode side is now either sorted or, for the open points, can be sorted by the minetest group contact. I'm afraid there isn't much we can do about off-freenode stuff, but I gave some advice on that :) 16:44 Fuchs Jordach: yes, I used these for a bit, wasn't too bad, but it was mostly from London to Banbury or from the latter to either Oxford or ... what was it ... lots of Canals ... anyway, don't know much of it 16:44 Fuchs Birmingham, that's the one 16:45 Jordach Fuchs, large admin groups remind me of this http://i.imgur.com/V7Zhpsm.mp4 16:47 Fuchs I shall drop out of various channels now, and shall probably also drop out of this one once more things are settled, feel free to poke staff (including me) if needed, and: no offense, I am just in too many channels 16:47 Fuchs I shall give your lovely project a go at one point, because I just recently for the first time played Minecraft (on my Switch, I am not a PC gamer, as I only have underpowered laptops) and I like it, so I shall try minetest given I ♥ FOSS. 16:48 VanessaE I might suggest staying in here for now? 16:48 VanessaE just...my little voice says to. :) 16:48 celeron55 can i drop out from here? i'm on too many channels too! 16:48 Fuchs yes, hence "when more things have settled" :) 16:48 celeron55 lol 16:48 Fuchs just so people aren't suprirsed when I suddenly drop out in a couple of days (hopefully!) 16:48 Shara celeron55: Don't you dare :) 16:48 VanessaE celeron55: nope, you're stuck here :) 16:48 * VanessaE glues celeron55's pants to the chair 16:49 celeron55 but it's painful! this is channel 25 16:49 Fuchs and I might submit a GitHub issue if minetest doesn't contain foxes, because that is what minecraft lacks, wolves are boring 16:49 Shara Drop the others :D 16:49 Fuchs celeron55: ahaha, 25 ... 16:49 * red-005 waits for celeron55 to escape with the chair 16:49 Fuchs celeron55: most of us have a three digit amount :( 16:49 VanessaE O_O 16:49 red-005 Fuchs, wow 16:49 VanessaE hell I thought I was on too many as it is, and I'm, on like, 10. 16:49 shivajiva only 25? pssh! 16:49 Fuchs life is hard etc. 16:49 Shara Fuchs: My server has foxes anyway, but I don't think many do :) 16:50 VanessaE s/,\ o/\ o/ 16:50 red-005 my client hangs on start up with only ~50-60 16:50 Fuchs Shara: good, then I know what server I shall test it on once I find the time :) 16:50 * nore has about 120-130 open buffers... 16:50 Fuchs nore: not all of them channels I guess, because our limit for users is 120 16:50 Fuchs but yes, that is "many channels" :) 16:51 nore Fuchs: well, 60-70 channels, but on two separate networks 16:51 Fuchs ah, yes, that also works 16:51 nore only about 10-15 on freenode I think 16:51 * Shara finds more than 10 already annoys 16:51 red-005 I'm connected to 3 networks 16:51 nore but I had to ask the admins of the other network to raise the limit which was 30 channels last year :) 16:52 garywhite I'm on 18 channels on freenode 16:53 Fuchs I'm on 6 networks, but fortunately only in a handful of channels on most that aren't freenode. And as per above, I try to keep the count low for freenode as well 16:54 VanessaE 9 on freenode, 3 on another network 16:55 celeron55 i think the productivity of a person outside IRC is calculated as ((25 - buffer count) / 0.25) % 17:08 celeron55 (actually, the other thing that would make sense would be to just kick OC out from #-project and leave it be) 17:08 celeron55 oops, where's my [off] 17:09 Calinou btw Fuchs, long time no see 17:09 Fuchs Calinou: your name is familiar, but I can't put it in a place yet. Hi though :) 17:09 Calinou who will have a Minetest group cloak by the way? 17:09 red-005 Fuchs, I know that feeling 17:09 celeron55 Calinou: will be decided much later; not important now 17:09 Calinou right 17:11 Fuchs okay, I'm off for a while, if you need staff assistance in the meantime: check if someone is on /stats p and feel free to query them, else (or in general) feel free to poke #freenode, colleagues are informed about * 17:11 Fuchs (which is a great exaggeration, but they know what they need to know!) 17:20 red-005 and sadly sometimes windows 10 17:20 red-005 (yes I know the horror) 17:20 Krock well, no problem with https://github.com/Nummer/Destroy-Windows-10-Spying 17:28 garywhite It's a quote from Frasier, that got reused on Big Bang Theory 17:33 CWz for a seconed i though we had another 'light' illegal andriod fork 17:34 rubenwardy This topic should probably been in offtopic: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=17576&start=25 17:35 Shara It seriously should be 17:36 Shara The forum is so full of... stuff I don't want to look through... that I barely look there 17:37 * VanessaE moves it 17:37 Shara Thanks :) 17:37 VanessaE yw 17:37 rubenwardy thanks :D 17:37 Shara I saw it earlier, then forgot to say something 17:37 rubenwardy banished to whenst they came 17:38 nore can't we just rename the "Offtopic" section to "Shitposting" to give it a more accurate name? 17:38 paramat well, i don't know if we'll rename, but is has ben seriously discussed and i just hope we do 17:38 paramat heh 17:39 paramat *been 17:40 Krock nore, it got quite spammy there and actually this wouldn't be a bad idea 17:40 nore (or nuke this section entirely) 17:40 Krock kids ould cry 17:40 Krock *would 17:41 nore -_- 17:42 paramat i like 'minetest' too, but i think it's a silly name we tend to get used to and come to like. if you consider it freshly it's so bad it's funny :] 17:42 VanessaE heh 17:42 rubenwardy ^ 17:42 VanessaE then let's change iot. 17:42 VanessaE it* 17:42 paramat how about 'excavation examination'? ;] 17:42 VanessaE I created this poll many moons ago: http://www.strawpoll.me/32807 17:42 VanessaE the first time the subject came up with any serious discussion around itr 17:43 VanessaE it* 17:43 paramat yes and those are awful names 17:43 Shara SUggestions I've seen are simply terrible 17:43 VanessaE I collected options from everyone who made suggestions; The Open Minetest Engine/TOME was mine. 17:44 paramat TOME is not so bad 17:44 Krock "Minetest core" is just fine 17:44 VanessaE no, it really isn't, Krock ... 17:44 Krock accept my opinion! :P 17:44 VanessaE your opinions is already there was "keep the old name!" :) 17:44 VanessaE -s 17:45 paramat anyway, the best thing to do is to let c55 choose the new name 17:45 Shara yes keeping the name has twice the votes of the next highest there... 17:45 Shara yet* 17:45 VanessaE paramat: "I let celeron55 name my game engines" :) 17:45 rubenwardy I voted for that one ^ 17:45 rubenwardy back in the day 17:45 VanessaE (that was the "CowboyNeal" option :D ) 17:45 CWz So what are the new names suggested thus far? 17:45 paramat .. to avoid unbearable bikeshedding and all these unimaginative names 17:45 VanessaE paramat: fair enough 17:46 paramat :] 17:46 Shara To be honest, just about all the names in that poll make me want to yawn 17:46 CWz would the new name contain related minetest/craft words, i.e block,node,craft 17:46 paramat hopefully not 17:46 CWz where the poll 17:47 VanessaE CWz: scroll back, but that's an old, outdated poll 17:47 VanessaE I only linked here for context 17:47 paramat and for me, word combinations containing 'free' or 'open' are just as bad 17:48 Shara agreed with paramat 17:48 CWz boy those names make me want to get bitten by a rattlesnake 17:48 CWz provided the damage is disabled 17:48 Wayward_One I still like the recently suggested "Kuutio" 17:48 garywhite I prefer Minetest because it makes it seem more like a MC-type game, that's the main reason that I started using MT, more realistic than MC but no $25 to play 17:48 Shara Wayward_One: That was the only suggestion I've heard so far that I didn't hate :) 17:49 CWz minevana? 17:49 CWz ^dumb name 17:49 paramat a MC reference is something to avoid i feel, so many names try to make a link to MC 17:49 Krock Burrito Core 17:49 CWz so no names with mine in it 17:49 CWz ? 17:50 Wayward_One Shara: same :) 17:50 CWz Okay original name it is 17:50 CWz this should take about an undisclosed ammount of time 17:50 CWz to finish 17:51 VanessaE how about Cubic Dreams :) 17:51 VanessaE ok that sucks too :P 17:51 CWz sounds like a toilet papper manufacturing plant 17:51 garywhite Either way, I think it'd be smart to wait until a major release to change any names, so at least wait for 0.5 17:51 Shara Haha 17:51 VanessaE wat 17:51 CWz 0.6 17:51 garywhite or 0.6 17:52 CWz or 1.0 17:52 Shara 1.0 :P 17:52 garywhite 1.0 17:52 CWz Blokadia 17:52 CWz lame... 17:52 CWz wait gimmic 17:53 CWz bloqadia 17:53 CWz ehk 17:53 CWz coming up with names is hard 17:53 * Shara blocks it 17:53 Amaz I do like Mesetint :) 17:53 nore based on the current trend 1.0 will take at least 1000 years to be released :) 17:53 Shara Yea, why I'm not trying 17:53 CWz BloXandria 17:56 CWz N.M.C.R 17:56 CWz Okay i give up 17:56 Wayward_One MIM: Minetest Isn't Minecraft 17:56 Wayward_One :3 17:57 CWz Not A Mine craft Ripoff 17:57 CWz Ello there Sailward 17:57 paramat here is our previous discussion on this topic http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-04-27#i_4900532 17:57 Wayward_One Ahoy thar Mr. Wormz :) 17:59 paramat next release probably will be 0.5 so a good time for a new name 18:00 CWz is Qublox taken? 18:00 CWz sadly that the best i can come up with 18:00 paramat unfortunately it has 'blox' in it 18:01 paramat see http://irc.minetest.net/minetest-dev/2017-04-27#i_4900532 18:01 paramat oops wrong link 18:01 paramat https://www.reddit.com/r/VoxelGameDev/comments/why8x/the_big_list_of_block_engines/ 18:02 paramat lots of uncreative names 18:02 nore open-x-g-k-craft 18:02 Fixer Krock: iirc MS bypasses hosts file, you need to block with firewall 18:02 nore (doesn't that look great?) 18:03 paramat 'Meinkrampft' 18:03 VanessaE ... 18:03 Krock JA 18:04 CWz Blokenheim 18:04 Fixer TOME is alreadt taken by another OSS project 18:04 Krock nore, open-x-g-k-craft 0.5.0-dirty-f93ab12-debug 18:05 Fixer name must be easily rememberable 18:05 * Krock tries to upload 17.7 MiB .. he noticed that it takes over 15 minutes 18:06 nore Krock: is that your new name suggestion? 18:06 Krock nore, no. just playing with the thought to call it " open-x-g-k-craft " 18:06 nore it might be a name that is quite hard to remember if it's 17.7 MiB long 18:06 Fixer nore: that the worst 18:06 Fixer nore: i do like Open* at start of the name 18:07 nore Krock: nono, I was talking about your upload :) 18:07 Krock lol 18:07 * nore should really get back to work 18:07 Krock well great, the upload corrupted 18:07 Fixer OpenVoxel for example 18:07 Fixer since it is engine 18:07 Fixer and Minetest as game for it 18:08 paramat good grief 18:08 Fixer but nice 18:08 Fixer OpenTTD 18:08 Fixer OpenRA 18:08 Fixer OpenXCOM 18:08 Krock OpenOffice 18:08 Fixer OpenRCT2 iirc 18:08 Fixer OpenBox (i hope) 18:09 Fixer one sec 18:09 Fixer openage 18:09 Fixer openGTA (o_O) 18:10 Fixer OpenJDK 18:10 Fixer or... 18:10 Fixer yeah it is 18:10 paramat i suggest avoiding varying combinations of 'mine' 'craft' 'dig' 'build' 'cube' 'voxel' 'block' 'blox' 'world' 'free' 'open' 18:10 red-005 open roblox 18:10 Fixer OpenMOO2 18:10 CWz dang 18:11 CWz so that just leaves Würfelhaven 18:11 CWz as my only suggestion 18:12 nore mine-build-dig-and-craft-in-an-open-world-of-cubes 18:12 Calinou "Open(something)" is often viewed as unimaginative and sometimes even pejorative 18:12 Calinou "Libre(something)" is only slightly better 18:12 Calinou (look at the people dissing OpenGL and praising Vulkan) 18:13 Calinou if you want your software to be popular, it has to contain an innuendo pun! /s 18:13 Fixer OpenPEPE 18:13 Fixer downside is trolls 18:14 paramat lol 18:15 Krock paramat, I recorded a video of my sn*ak PR and the "official" one. Trying to upload it now... 18:15 CWz Creative Sam 18:15 paramat yeah will review your latest soon 18:15 Jordach FairCube Engine :P 18:16 * CWz gives up 18:16 Krock uploaded this file about 5 times now, just always the very beginning of it >.< 18:16 Fixer CWz: Serious Sam / Creative Sam 18:16 Krock since this copper cable connection doesn't seem to like uploads 18:16 paramat 'Plunderassessment' 18:16 Jordach paramat, fuck just had the best one 18:16 Jordach Quarry 18:17 Fixer IrrlichtQuarry 18:17 CWz I don't think you can name a game without the name being related to the gameplay somehow. it would be like naming Team Fortress 2. 9 guys and Toilet 18:17 Fixer lol 18:17 paramat hehe 18:17 paramat well you can 18:18 paramat that approach is what leads to boring names, oh, 'boring' .. 18:20 CWz we need a name that is original like Narbacular drop was to portal 2 18:20 Fixer CyberCube 18:20 red-005 punch stuff 18:20 Fixer ＣＹＢＥＲＣＵＢＥ 18:20 Fixer punching 18:20 benrob0329 garywhite: because its a peice of useable history 18:21 paramat 'Boringexperiment' 18:21 CWz Atheoria 18:21 Calinou libmining-ng 18:21 Fixer lol please no 18:22 Fixer no libmining-ng 18:22 Fixer thats something like fork of something obscure from 1970 18:24 CWz ZoxxoZ 18:25 CWz ^ now i am beyond out of idea 18:26 * CWz leaves renaming minetest to the the geniuses 18:27 benrob0329 So whilst i was mowing the lawn, I thought about how imgui (or any other gui, for thar matter) could be sent to the client, as its function based 18:27 benrob0329 And it hit me, client side modding 18:28 benrob0329 You could seperate the gui code into ots own script, and send it to the client 18:28 benrob0329 Boom, client side gui that triggers server functions 18:30 benrob0329 (Ik it'd be more complicated than that, but typing out everything rn would be a pain since I have research to go.do before I get a full plan) 18:40 CWz i bet VanessaE could come up with a good name 18:41 Krock paramat, my result for master: http://krock-works.16mb.com/u/sneak_master_febd07f.mp4 18:42 Krock the other is still uploading.. 18:42 Krock with legendary 4.1 KiB/s 18:43 paramat hm 'video format or MIME type not supported' 18:43 Krock xvid4.. shouldn't be a problem? 18:43 rubenwardy I had to download and open in VLC 18:43 Krock opens in the embedded VLC here, FF 18:44 paramat ah ok 18:45 * CWz wonders howmany feminists were offended by the wget download progress bar 18:45 paramat ok got it 18:47 Shara We seem to be collecting nerzhuls! 18:47 CWz Gotta get 'em all! 18:48 CWz damn one got awawy 18:48 Shara :( 18:49 Krock lol rubenwardy 18:51 VanessaE CWz: I have no ideas for names. 19:15 tenplus1 hi folks 19:15 Raven262 Hello tenplus1 19:15 tenplus1 hi raven 19:15 Amaz Hi ten :) 19:16 tenplus1 hi amaz :P 19:19 Shara Hello :) 19:19 tenplus1 hi shara :P 19:21 benrob0329 hi tenplus1 19:21 tenplus1 hi benrob, nice desktop btw 19:22 benrob0329 thnx 19:22 benrob0329 not sure if im going to go for the gaps look yet 19:22 benrob0329 currently trying to get mpd running 19:22 tenplus1 sweet, I used mpd a lot :) 19:22 tenplus1 settled on audacious now 19:24 Fixer tenplus1: tamed and protected mobs can be killed? 19:24 tenplus1 tamed and protected mobs cannot be killed inside owners protected area, only outside 19:24 tenplus1 hi WhoAreYou 19:24 WhoAreYou Hello 10+1 19:25 Fixer tenplus1: my sheeps are under protection, yet i lost like most of them to something unknown 19:25 Fixer tenplus1: one guy also said you can kill protected sheep with the egg, not sure what that means 19:25 tenplus1 they can still be killed by mobs and usual environment damage... just not players 19:25 tenplus1 ohh, if you throw a chicken egg it can harm mobs 19:26 Raven262 Well, i say that is one creative idea +1 19:26 tenplus1 lol 19:30 benrob0329 something using a source based distro teaches you, is use simple programs 19:30 benrob0329 they compile easier 19:30 benrob0329 /faster 19:30 tenplus1 :P 19:31 garywhite hi WAY 19:31 tenplus1 hi gary 19:31 garywhite hi ten 19:32 Fixer https://i.imgur.com/6AOia8s.png fuck not this again 19:33 Raven262 What an odd structure, Fixer 19:33 Raven262 What are those gray things on your screenshot? 19:34 tenplus1 hi paramat 19:34 paramat nice architecture 19:34 Fixer Raven262: where? 19:34 tenplus1 ?? 19:34 Raven262 On the water? 19:35 tenplus1 illusionary :D 19:35 Raven262 How or what is that? xD 19:35 Fixer Raven262: protector blocks? 19:36 Raven262 I doubt it, i see gray line things on the screenshot, and it is not cause of my screen. 19:36 paramat reminds me of modernist like le corbusier 19:36 Fixer why the fuck they build on water... 19:37 Fixer my view is ruined again 19:37 Shara Fixer: original spawn of Red Cat would give you nightmares 19:37 Shara They ran out of land and just... never stopped. 19:38 rubywarden On redcrab, someone built a massive wall right next to my private estate 19:38 Fixer gonna a build a wall if that structure will be that ugly 19:38 rubywarden like, if it was a house it would be fine as it's reasonably far awal 19:38 Shara I will now only build on servers where I can make a ridiculously huge protected area first 19:39 Shara I freaked out when someone started building pixelart next to http://rc.minetest.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/DeepWinter02.png 19:39 Raven262 http://i.imgur.com/RWjJunC.png these 19:40 Shara Raven262: pretty sure those are protectors 19:40 Raven262 A what? 19:40 Raven262 Never seen those things in my life xD 19:40 Raven262 Well, there is first time for everything. 19:41 tenplus1 paramat: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/pull/1732 19:41 tenplus1 you misunderstood what I said dude... I explained a little more 19:46 tenplus1 http://lolsnaps.com/upload_pic/6a9e0f9e-turn-around.jpg 19:53 tenplus1 hi nore 19:54 nore hi 20:02 paramat ok 20:05 Fixer Raven262: protectors 20:05 Raven262 Well, that is one hell of a ping, Fixer 20:06 red-005 hi man_arab ? 20:06 red-005 whoever you are 20:06 Fixer was thinking on some concepts... https://i.imgur.com/vIAoBGQ.png 20:06 Fixer the wall 20:06 Fixer does not blend with water well :( 20:07 Raven262 Yes, cyan wool + pinewood makes a nice colour scheme. 20:09 Fixer i know only one creative way how to hide that ugly house 20:09 Fixer by building a nice boat 20:09 Fixer ship 20:10 Raven262 Or... an aircraft carrier! 20:10 Raven262 :O 20:10 Fixer thats too much 20:10 Raven262 Yeah, might be. 20:10 Fixer i've seen those already in minetest 20:10 Raven262 I saw only one. 20:10 Fixer Redcrab? 20:11 Fixer Landrush? 20:11 Raven262 No, i saw it on a map converted from MC 20:11 Raven262 The large map, has soem buildings too 20:11 Raven262 *some 20:12 Raven262 But i can't remember the name. 20:13 tenplus1 hi rubenwardy 20:27 Calinou http://www.pcgamer.com/meet-the-dad-who-quit-his-job-to-run-a-minecraft-server-for-autistic-kids/ 20:27 Calinou hmm, there was a Minetest forums thread about that server once 20:27 Calinou apparently they get $1,550 of Patreon donations a month 20:27 tenplus1 oof 20:29 * Shara would love to see things like that take off in MT 20:30 tenplus1 start a channel with a good cause like that and it may happen :D 20:34 Shara I wouldn't have the resources sadly. 20:34 rubenwardy hi tenplus1 20:34 rubenwardy hi all 20:34 Shara Can barely keep up with the servers I already run 20:34 Shara HI rubenwardy 20:34 tenplus1 heh 20:35 rubenwardy I'm going to use my time well this summer 20:35 rubenwardy planning on making a new server 20:35 * tenplus1 opens a server for the blind... 20:35 Shara rubenwardy: what kind? 20:36 Shara My third one is in the planning stages right now. 20:36 rubenwardy I want to make a capitalism server, where players create shops and distribution networks 20:36 rubenwardy not sure how to make the code work 20:36 rubenwardy over ambitious, as usual 20:36 tenplus1 Xanadu is kinda like that already rubenwardy :P 20:36 tenplus1 we have shopping centres 20:36 rubenwardy nah 20:37 garywhite tenplus1: That's kinda hard to do cause how are you supposed to play without seeing what you're doing? 20:37 rubenwardy Xanadu may have an economy, but not in the way I want 20:37 tenplus1 braille display gary 20:37 tenplus1 ahh, what kinda economy you after ? 20:37 Shara My Box server is ridiculously over ambitious as well. 20:37 garywhite What about Minetest: Colorblind Edition? 20:37 rubenwardy Semi-EVE, but mostly automated 20:38 rubenwardy I have a rough idea, just need to fill it out 20:38 rubenwardy lel 20:38 Shara I'll eventually either need to spend a huge amount of time building, or some builders who have a clue about level design 20:38 garywhite rubenwardy: Are you going for a server that is more like a realistic economy? 20:40 rubenwardy yeah, but not loyally realist 20:41 garywhite OK, but I may know of a mod that could be useful 20:41 tenplus1 bonemeal mod works a little TOO well; https://img.banggood.com/thumb/water/oaupload/banggood/images/26/59/e50b5c0a-8a32-4502-b830-8621d498aef8.jpg 20:42 garywhite rubenwardy: https://github.com/Tmanyo/bank_accounts 20:42 rubenwardy oh nice, bookmarked 20:46 tenplus1 wow, nice mod... pretty indepth 20:46 tenplus1 nite folks 20:47 garywhite night ten 21:15 red-005 night 21:16 Fixer MAAAAAAAAAAKE A MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE 21:18 Fixer bookmarked that too^^ 22:11 paramat another rain mod with blue rain :] 22:16 Shara paramat: Nooooooooooooo! 22:18 Fixer paramat: never seen blue rain... 22:21 * Jordach starts singing about Purple Rain 22:21 Fixer haze 22:21 Calinou I want to make a capitalism server, where players create shops and distribution networks 22:21 Calinou heh 22:21 Calinou problem is, it won't work, most players don't understand how economy works 22:22 Shara Calinou: but that's why it will be interesting :) 22:22 Jordach and then some communist will ask you to match me and then go no refunds 22:23 Jordach bernie panders ecksdee 22:23 Jordach Kappa 22:24 paramat hehe 22:24 Fixer anarcho-capitalism in minetest