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hephaestus |
I'm testing my server with friend, I get to connection, but he got the message of timeout, someone have an idea about |
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check your router to be sure you're forwarding the port correctly |
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hephaestus |
Mantar, yes I guess we discovery what can happened my friend disabled the ipv6 support on pc and my server was setting up to v6 |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Panquesito7 -> minetest/minetest_game: Use a faster and newer LuaCheck (#3081) c0200b0 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/c0200b0a01aac7c12a9b686694dbfcda873e20c0 (2023-12-30T10:29:10Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest_game: Make cloud parameters deterministic across sessions e9676fa https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/e9676fa6320ccfc7f403ccedb9772d5fb9efbaa7 (2023-12-30T10:30:46Z) |
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[git] Uwuewsky -> minetest/minetest_game: Update Russian translation (#3058) a3b171e https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/a3b171e317ec63428975915b821eb438c313adef (2023-12-30T10:32:05Z) |
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json68 |
I'm wondering if when developing a mod that adds mobs, is it better to use Mobs Redo or Creatura? |
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json |
I'm wondering if when developing a mod that adds mobs, is it better to use Mobs Redo or Creatura? |
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MTDiscord |
<mistere_123> Depends on the functionality/time input you need. If you want the simple mob behaviors that redo provides, maybe with a little customization, then redo works, and saves you coding time. If you want great extensibility, maybe better performance, and custom logic at the cost of a bit more coding, then creatura. |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Does anyone here hate rust the programming language? |
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ROllerozxa |
hi |
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ROllerozxa |
I don't really hate it, I just wanted to say hi |
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Krock |
hi. I somewhat hate the Rust language. C++ is so much easier to use. Who needs an unreasonable borrow checker anyway? |
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* Krock |
grabs popcorn |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Okay I see your point, can we talk about integrating a package manager into Minetest then? |
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Krock |
would be nice if there was something like a main menu tab where you could simply install mods and games directly without going the git clone or unzipping process |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> No not for the game, for the packages in which the game is built with |
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ROllerozxa |
LOL jordan you're making it sound like we're gonna ship pacman with the engine |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> https://vcpkg.io/en/ :thonking: |
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ROllerozxa |
uh isn't vcpkg windows-only |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> Krock: C++ is easy to use? 🤨 |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> C++ is very easy to use, so long as you don't want to actually make anything work using it |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Pretty easy to whip up a "Hello World" in it, at least, or as they apparently call it in the C++ world, "Segmentation fault (core dumped)". |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Okay I see everyone's point, it's quite fair. But let's say we all agreed on that C++ is the ultimate language and it causes high productivity. This is like using javascript without npm. Or python without pip. Or D without DUB |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> You can still do all this, but then you incur the burden of making sure literally everything is up to date, could miss security/QOL/optimization fixes |
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mrkubax10 |
ROllerozxa: no, it works on Linux too |
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mrkubax10 |
and on macOS probably |
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ROllerozxa |
horrifying |
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mrkubax10 |
it's kind of unneeded anywhere else than on Windows |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Lol Jordan we are not going to fundamentally fix the C++ ecosystem, we just use the language here. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Considering the amount of work we are doing just to keep a thing that draws cubes on your screen sane, it might be a bit much to ask us to solve package management problems that ab entire development ecosystem can't seem to figure out. |
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muurkha |
jordan4ibanez: the most popular package manager for C++ libraries is Debian's dpkg/apt, although Nix is gaining popularity |
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muurkha |
it also allows you to pretty effectively use javascript without npm and python without pip |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Can we use that on windows? |
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muurkha |
jordan4ibanez: you mean X-Windows? sure, you can install X-Windows with it |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> No, can we allow Windows 10/11 users to easily integrate this with something like WSL? |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Heh, X-Windows is not a thing, because "Windows" was already a trademark threat at the time the X Window System was created, hence, they left it unpluralized. |
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muurkha |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Hmm, the trademark threat aspect is kinda apocryphal, but the "it's not called X Windows" part is apparently substantiated. |
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muurkha |
yeah, "windows" was already a generic term decades before |
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