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| 00:04 |
migdyn |
Can I get a temp unban at least for the duration of the jam? |
| 00:40 |
hephaestus |
is there some place where may I get minetest-server compiled to ubuntu? Last year I do that but I didnt save the path, because I'm using ubuntu 22.04 and I want the 5.8 version and just find 5.4 |
| 00:40 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> use the ppa |
| 00:41 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> I can offer you docker images |
| 00:41 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/stable sudo apt update sudo apt install minetest |
| 00:41 |
hephaestus |
I install from ppa, but I cant find the minetest-server |
| 00:41 |
hephaestus |
*installed |
| 00:41 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> No hyphen |
| 00:41 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> minetest --server |
| 00:42 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Oh it doesn't install the minetestserver binary? |
| 00:42 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> I guess the difference is negligible enough. |
| 00:43 |
hephaestus |
well i cant find that, just minetes at /usr/bin |
| 00:43 |
hephaestus |
but there is a folder at /var/games/minetest-server |
| 00:43 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> minetest --server is essentially the same as minetestserver for most purposes |
| 00:44 |
hephaestus |
a public server is ok? |
| 00:44 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> sure |
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hephaestus |
and I have to download a minetst game, right? |
| 00:45 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> yeah <insert shill for other games instead here> |
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hephaestus |
sorry, whats the meaning shill |
| 00:46 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> Install mineos if you're feeling particularly enterprise |
| 00:47 |
MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shill, scroll to internet |
| 00:48 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> minetest --server is as far as I know literally the same as minetestserver except that there are a few megabytes of unused code that won't run and won't have a meaningful effect on your server anyway. Β The minetestserver binary is probably as much about fast compiles as it is about loading less binary. |
| 00:48 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Is mineos even multiplayer? π |
| 00:49 |
MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> It can be if you try, I'll make that happen one day and it'll be the worst user experience ever pumped through a cpu |
| 00:50 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> It will still be glorious |
| 00:51 |
hephaestus |
wsor4035 I already didn't understand what you meaning about shill, in portuguese dont sounds ok. But I guess it was a joke |
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MTDiscord |
<wsor4035> basically i was joking saying that people should insert recommendations for there games/ones they have a vested interest instead of minetest game |
| 00:53 |
Mantar |
[insert plug for Exile] |
| 00:53 |
Mantar |
"Do you like dying? We've got dying!" :D |
| 00:54 |
hephaestus |
warr1024 so I was using minetestserver but I updated ubuntu to 22 and lost the data by other trouble. I remember that I download the last version and just unzip |
| 00:55 |
hephaestus |
wsor4035 I think that was a joke, wikipedia sometimes is not a good reference to other languages because the translates mmaybe not work ok |
| 00:55 |
hephaestus |
:D |
| 00:56 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> I'm a Debian user so I have very little experience running MT out of apt packages, it's virtually not even an option on Debian π |
| 00:56 |
Mantar |
MT 5.6.0 is in debian stable now though |
| 00:57 |
hephaestus |
at Debian, I can get the 5.8 version? I can change :D |
| 00:57 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> You can get 5.8 in Debian but it will probably require you to wait like 2 to 5 years first, so I wouldn't recommend it. |
| 00:57 |
hephaestus |
Debian 11 is available to me |
| 00:58 |
hephaestus |
oh I understand |
| 00:58 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> You can get it by compiling it yourself but that's not something you should have to do just to run a server unless you want custom options or to do engine dev. |
| 00:58 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> FlatPak is an option but the thought of running a proper server on that sound kinda terrible. |
| 00:59 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Docker is, I would argue, the sanest way to manage a server, but it does require some investment in learning docker. |
| 00:59 |
hephaestus |
yeah, flatpak is not a good experience |
| 00:59 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> wsor's PPA suggestion sounds best to me, it's just that unfortunately I don't know much about it specifically. |
| 01:00 |
hephaestus |
oh I didnt understand docker, I tryied all day |
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hephaestus |
yeah well, in this case form ppa installation, I just need to download the minetestgame |
| 01:01 |
Mantar |
Eh, compiling's not hard, and debian makes it pretty easy with "apt build-dep" |
| 01:02 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Compiling isn't hard, it's just ... annoying π
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| 01:02 |
hephaestus |
Mantar, but in Debian 11 can I get 5.8 version |
| 01:03 |
Mantar |
yeah, there's no reason you couldn't get 5.8 working in Debian 11, but it's not in the official packages |
| 01:03 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> If you use the Ubuntu PPA then it MAY be possible to get 5.8 that way on debian, but I've had mixed results using Ubuntu PPAs on debian. |
| 01:03 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> You can almost certainly compile it yourself on debian 11; it's not different from the 12 I run in any way that would make a difference to MT that I know of. |
| 01:06 |
hephaestus |
I understand. The problem to intall MT from ppa on ubuntu is the folders are not in the same main folder |
| 01:06 |
hephaestus |
I didnt find yet the game folder to download minetesgame :D |
| 01:06 |
Mantar |
I had success with the appimages from the forum, too |
| 01:07 |
Mantar |
flatpaks usually gave me trouble, like most other "one package manager to rule them all" projects |
| 01:07 |
hephaestus |
appimages? I'll see that |
| 01:08 |
hephaestus |
is to desktop Mantar? |
| 01:08 |
Mantar |
yeah, or whatever folder you install it to |
| 01:09 |
MTDiscord |
<warr1024> FlatPaks in my experience are a tolerable way to go if you want to "just play" as a client or single player. Β That's about all I really rely on them for. |
| 01:09 |
hephaestus |
oh I'm install a server |
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| 01:39 |
hephaestus |
I guess I found, it was a script from originally of Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=26509 |
| 01:40 |
hephaestus |
posted by Gael-de-Sally |
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Blockhead256 |
meanwhile in a parallel universe to Minetest, instead of Mese there is Meseta |
| 08:04 |
Blockhead256 |
http://wiki.phantasystaruniverse.net/Meseta |
| 08:05 |
Blockhead256 |
came from the comments (sorted by new) under the mumbo jumbo vidoe |
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Blockhead256 |
which I'm sure would look very different if he made it now for 5.8 |
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migdyn |
MJ had a chance to show Minetest for what it really is but instead he chose to only show MTG and now the ~1.5 mil people that saw his video think Minetest is just another Minecraft clone with ads. |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> A fair amount of that was our fault, because we decided to make MTG no longer "default" but dragged our feet on actually implementing it for years because we kept saying "we need to do an entire main menu redesign first." |
| 18:21 |
muurkha |
Michael Jackson already died |
| 18:23 |
ROllerozxa |
LOL, migdyn is talking about mumbo jumbo, the minecraft youtuber who made a video about minetest |
| 18:24 |
muurkha |
heh |
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hephaestus |
hello. Yesterday I was talking about my difficulty in compiled the MT, I remembered of post in a forum, a script by Calinou, so I realized that script was improved and add at github of MT, it is perfect, so I get it https://github.com/minetest/minetest?tab=readme-ov-file#compiling |
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hephaestus |
and I get start two instances of MT as I want, but now I think in get free registre subdomain at minetest.land |
| 20:18 |
hephaestus |
is there some way to do this by port of access |
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jonadab |
hephaestus: I suspect you may run into Warnock's Dilemma on that one. |
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MinetestBot |
[git] cx384 -> minetest/minetest: Rename `hud_elem_type` to `type` (#14065) 467d3a8 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/467d3a8c62aa39a9eda7095935de1a56c96fb708 (2023-12-29T20:51:02Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Desour -> minetest/minetest: Fix AsyncRunStep() skipping steps when dtime < 1 ms ad5e9aa https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/ad5e9aa5e38bed7f3407321fa8eb3cb1d8afff73 (2023-12-29T20:51:19Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Clean up OS-specific initialization 93c2aff https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/93c2aff2cfb762a310b31d1b985ba5c19bc14152 (2023-12-29T20:52:08Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Clean up gettext initialization b8dc349 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/b8dc34909997f0245160776a21dbeb392c3d6296 (2023-12-29T20:52:08Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] (1 newer commits not shown) |
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hephaestus |
jonadab, I'm confused, am I being inappropriate? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Perform server occlusion check before a block is loaded or generated β¦ 22a1653 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/22a16537022ec052c4c2824b5665cd27c36c133e (2023-12-29T20:53:27Z) |
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hephaestus |
I'm thinking about to use ipv6, someone knows if this oficial list: v6.servers.minetest.net |
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muurkha |
hephaestus: Warnock's Dilemma doesn't mean you're being inappropriate |
| 21:48 |
hephaestus |
thank you muurkha my English interpretation is not so good, actually my English is not good :D |
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sfan5 |
v6.servers.minetest.net does not exist |
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hephaestus |
thank you sfan5 I found this in a search. But is it possible to use ipv6, I'm reading the conf.example |
| 22:00 |
muurkha |
I used IPv6 last week when my wife was over at her brother's house |
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sfan5 |
hephaestus: you can set ipv6_server=true but consider these https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=408814#p408814 |
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hephaestus |
thank you sfan5 it works now. I love so much MT it was more easy that I was thinking |
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MinetestBot |
[git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Do not emerge blocks in the active_object_send_range_blocks range (#1β¦ c99196d https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/c99196d363d3337b7b7c6392cd6bfb8846a7ed2b (2023-12-29T22:18:06Z) |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Warnock's Dilemma in the sense of "maybe your post was so good that nobody felt they had anything to add" is less of a problem here as "people are probably not answering your questions because they just don't KNOW the answer". |
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MTDiscord |
<warr1024> Try Cunningham's Law instead π |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Extend sanity checks in ActiveBlockList::update 431444b https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/431444ba9f6a57b8105adcaeed9451fd77605fc5 (2023-12-29T23:31:03Z) |
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Desour |
I noticed sfan grew again :eyes: |
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hephaestus |
warr1024 π thank you I understand, sometimes I guess I'm boring the people |
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