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Lesha_Vel |
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Wuzzy |
Perlin Explorer 1.0.0 released: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=28027&p=409461 |
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Hello, I have just set up a server. How can I change the privileges for my player? |
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lemonzest |
jojje: in the config for your server you should have a name field thats the admin user who can use the privs command |
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lemonzest |
it will be "name = " and the name you chose for admin, log in under that name |
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lemonzest |
then it will be something like "/grant name priv" I think, or something like that, not 100% sure of the command |
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lemonzest: thanks :) |
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hn_ |
ok fine back |
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hn_ |
so how to open crafter? no idea... |
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hn_ |
ded chat |
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hn_ |
nvm. now i dont want crafter. now i want alternative to both minetest and minecraft... |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> you're still in #minetest... ? |
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hn_ |
ikr? |
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hn_ |
but want alternative to it so rwalted |
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hn_ |
*related |
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mrkubax10 |
stop pls |
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mrkubax10 |
btw ubuntu releases now |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> cool, so you can get an ubuntu release with less than a year old packages? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> how revolutionary |
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erle |
ubuntu has LTS releases and beta releases |
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erle |
so why is a new ubuntu beta interesting? |
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erle |
oh Ubuntu 20.04.4 LTS |
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mrkubax10 |
afaik it's release of 22.04 LTS |
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erle |
that is the last |
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erle |
so the new one is just a new non-beta |
| 15:27 |
erle |
well |
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erle |
i use debian stale |
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sfan5 |
good news for all friends of stale software: the fresh release of Ubuntu 22.04 includes Minetest 5.4.1 |
| 15:29 |
erle |
nice |
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mrkubax10 |
werid, why it doesn't contain 5.5.0 |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> oh my, that's only one version out of date! |
| 15:29 |
erle |
because |
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mrkubax10 |
*dramatic silence* |
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definitelya |
mrkubax10: Probably due to packaging difficulty related to Irrlichtmt. |
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sfan5 |
could be but it's not like that's unsolvable, they're probably short on time |
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aoki |
hn_: I also want more games like that |
| 15:42 |
hn_ |
ubuntu is kringe... |
| 15:42 |
hn_ |
woah, reilly? aoki? |
| 15:43 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> no, ubuntu is just regular cringe, kubuntu is kringe :P |
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definitelya |
True, hopefully it's taken care of, soon. |
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aoki |
I want more immersive games like minetest |
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hn_ |
i want just alternative with mods in python |
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aoki |
huh |
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aoki |
I'd prefer mods in erlang |
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hn_ |
nvm |
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mrkubax10 |
what's wrong about Lua? |
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aoki |
lua is too easy |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> PHP modding API when |
| 15:44 |
hn_ |
for me non-understandable lol |
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aoki |
but more seriously, having erlang's concurrency model for mods would be pretty cool |
| 15:44 |
hn_ |
no, python |
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mrkubax10 |
SQL modding api when |
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aoki |
LMAO |
| 15:45 |
hn_ |
no. |
| 15:45 |
aoki |
javascript |
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definitelya |
aoki: It doesn't get more immersive than VR. ;) Have you heard of NeosVr? |
| 15:45 |
hn_ |
what? |
| 15:45 |
aoki |
I have not! |
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aoki |
oh, it even works on linux |
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hn_ |
ah, metaverse. pfth |
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definitelya |
It's a FOSS VR platform, I think it's awesome if you are into that. |
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definitelya |
hn_: no |
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definitelya |
>.< |
| 15:46 |
hn_ |
google said |
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aoki |
can I buy nft |
| 15:46 |
hn_ |
Neos Metaverse - also known as NeosVR |
| 15:46 |
hn_ |
right from google |
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definitelya |
aoki: I don't think so lol. |
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aoki |
minetest resources should be nft |
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aoki |
like gold |
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aoki |
and then you can trade it on minetest stock exchange between servers |
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hn_ |
there is oins mod |
| 15:47 |
hn_ |
* coins |
| 15:47 |
aoki |
no, connect it to actual blockchain network lmao |
| 15:47 |
aoki |
as nft |
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erle |
on the upside, ubuntu packaging means more people bitching about incompatible APIs! |
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hn_ |
possible... |
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aoki |
interfact through mods |
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erle |
which hopefully, one day, will lead to people adopting development practices where the rugpulling ends |
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hn_ |
but requires security turned off due to networking |
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erle |
i mean the LTS users will be stuck on 5.4.1 for 2 years |
| 15:48 |
hn_ |
lol |
| 15:49 |
hn_ |
and use debian with dev-newest |
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aoki |
hn_: yeah, and also a bunch of other headache like having to setup a wallet and figure out how to mint tokens |
| 15:49 |
hn_ |
maybe |
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erle |
> minetest stock exchange between servers |
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erle |
lol |
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erle |
call it block exchange |
| 15:49 |
hn_ |
possible |
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aoki |
stonks |
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aoki |
multi-server economy |
| 15:49 |
hn_ |
just to disable security but can be done |
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hn_ |
and requires centralised server |
| 15:50 |
erle |
<sfan5> could be but it's not like that's unsolvable, they're probably short on time |
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erle |
sfan5, the truth is that ubuntu just takes debian testing and leaves most of the packages in whatever state they are in |
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aoki |
hn_: not true |
| 15:50 |
erle |
sfan5, meanwhile, debian people come to your project and ask about packaging and stuff |
| 15:51 |
erle |
sfan5, as has happened with minetest. debian people also give you messages like “we are intending to release soon, are you sure you don't want to make a new release, hint hint” sometimes |
| 15:51 |
hn_ |
mine version - 5.5.0 |
| 15:51 |
erle |
i absolutely despise the ubuntu development practices |
| 15:51 |
hn_ |
thk |
| 15:51 |
hn_ |
modded deb |
| 15:51 |
erle |
i made a lot of emoji for unifont and a game that used emojis and for half a year ubuntu users were like HALF THE CHARACTERS DO NOT DISPLAY |
| 15:51 |
erle |
because ubuntu sucks |
| 15:51 |
hn_ |
yep |
| 15:51 |
hn_ |
indeed |
| 15:52 |
erle |
meanwhile, the unifont contributions got to debian faster than to arch |
| 15:52 |
hn_ |
not saying that it also sends data to external servers (in differece from windows that it says about it) |
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sfan5 |
erle: I know what ubuntu does, "they" is referring to the debian maintainers |
| 15:53 |
hn_ |
indeed lol |
| 15:53 |
hn_ |
except of wallpapers xd |
| 15:56 |
hn_ |
this lol : https://ibb.co/NT2h61p (why empty world doesnt detect default nodes? lol) |
| 15:57 |
hn_ |
noone? |
| 15:57 |
hn_ |
mod is epty |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> have you defined the aliases? |
| 15:58 |
hn_ |
means ? |
| 15:58 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> ...the mapgen aliases for the default nodes it generates. kinda important yknow |
| 16:00 |
hn_ |
i just have this : https://codeberg.org/hacknorris/electronics.git thats all |
| 16:00 |
hn_ |
mods folder empty same as menu (doesnt exist in gitblub cause empty) |
| 16:03 |
hn_ |
so what now ? |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> register some nodes |
| 16:05 |
hn_ |
means ? |
| 16:05 |
hn_ |
i was just testing empty game |
| 16:06 |
erle |
go to content tab |
| 16:06 |
erle |
download stuff |
| 16:06 |
hn_ |
(means - literally empty - only gave description and name) |
| 16:06 |
hn_ |
and yes, i have few downloads |
| 16:06 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> a game without any mods that add content is just that - a game with no content |
| 16:06 |
hn_ |
nodecore, voxelgarden, minebase... |
| 16:07 |
hn_ |
but i forced flat and it produces singlnode |
| 16:07 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> I don't know what you were expecting, unknown node world or something |
| 16:07 |
hn_ |
literaly |
| 16:07 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> hn_: that's because you don't have any nodes registered. |
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definitelya |
hn_: minebase is discontinued(?) |
| 16:07 |
hn_ |
because it should take from mtg? |
| 16:07 |
hn_ |
i thihnk |
| 16:08 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> it doesn't. minetest is independent from minetest game |
| 16:08 |
hn_ |
well... now i know thk |
| 16:08 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> for an actual bare bones game if you want a base to work on, check out void game. here's its mod that registers essential nodes: https://gitlab.com/4w/void/-/blob/master/mods/void_essential/init.lua |
| 16:08 |
hn_ |
its incontentdb ? |
| 16:09 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> yeah it's in contentdb too |
| 16:09 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> not that it would be of much use in itself, you wanna make a game right? |
| 16:10 |
hn_ |
yeah, wanted just to know... (starting from smaller thing, on OS ending :'D ) |
| 16:12 |
hn_ |
and a question - is there a thing to achieve a bed-similar chair on which i can sit and could boost time by 5% ? |
| 16:13 |
hn_ |
but to have a sitting position, not staying |
| 16:16 |
hn_ |
noone? |
| 16:16 |
hn_ |
no way to change position ? |
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erle |
hn_ maybe ask question on forums |
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hn_ |
nvm |
| 16:31 |
hn_ |
going to make something bigger outside |
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MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> hn_: attaching to an entity and setting the sitting anim? |
| 16:42 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> dunno how it would be able to boost time without being weird for other players though |
| 16:43 |
hn_ |
just sitting without moving. like bed |
| 16:43 |
hn_ |
with an exact position of sitting (not stand lol) |
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hn_ |
can i have yet another big and weird question needing you to visit 2 urls ? |
| 16:48 |
MTDiscord |
<ROllerozxa> what, do you want me to ask you a question? |
| 16:48 |
hn_ |
no, just that here is error : https://termbin.com/e9ue |
| 16:48 |
hn_ |
and here is source : https://github.com/hacknorris-aka-penguin/minetestOS |
| 16:49 |
hn_ |
why it says file doesnt exist while it does ? |
| 16:50 |
ROllerozxa |
that's... not how you include files in minetest lua |
| 16:50 |
hn_ |
(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ |
| 16:50 |
hn_ |
i took it from lua help page, not mt so should |
| 16:50 |
hn_ |
(also) |
| 16:51 |
hn_ |
i deal with it for over 1 month... |
| 16:51 |
ROllerozxa |
you need to use dofile() with minetest.get_modpath |
| 16:52 |
hn_ |
how ? |
| 16:52 |
hn_ |
(now im dumb) |
| 16:52 |
hn_ |
( + need to rewrite 100 files) |
| 16:54 |
ROllerozxa |
`dofile(minetest.get_modpath('minetest_os').."/root/etc/main.lua")` |
| 16:54 |
hn_ |
two dots ? |
| 16:54 |
ROllerozxa |
concatenation |
| 16:54 |
hn_ |
ok |
| 16:55 |
ROllerozxa |
if you have a lot of file includes you might want to write a helper function to make it less verbose |
| 16:55 |
hn_ |
and now how to include in same directory? can use require ? |
| 16:55 |
ROllerozxa |
still dofile |
| 16:55 |
hn_ |
and what is a helper function ? |
| 16:56 |
hn_ |
(im a noob now lol) |
| 16:57 |
ROllerozxa |
small functions that helps you out, dunno how else to describe it |
| 16:57 |
hn_ |
how to make? how it helps ? |
| 16:57 |
hn_ |
o.O |
| 16:59 |
hn_ |
for the now rrewriting files btw |
| 17:00 |
hn_ |
also a next thing - cant it be boosted by lfs? |
| 17:00 |
ROllerozxa |
what kind of lfs? |
| 17:00 |
hn_ |
lua filesystem |
| 17:00 |
hn_ |
addon |
| 17:01 |
hn_ |
(require) |
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hn_ |
so nooone? |
| 17:03 |
ROllerozxa |
uh, minetest already provides I/O functions, or do you wonder if they are slower than lfs? |
| 17:03 |
hn_ |
less typing |
| 17:03 |
hn_ |
im not caring about speed |
| 17:03 |
hn_ |
;p |
| 17:03 |
mrkubax10 |
... |
| 17:04 |
ROllerozxa |
are you kidding me |
| 17:04 |
hn_ |
no |
| 17:04 |
hn_ |
for the now thank god i didnt wrote it all i needed to change 25 line |
| 17:05 |
hn_ |
sif i'd wrote all it and only saw this error i could have even 1000 lines to rewrite |
| 17:05 |
hn_ |
so i very dont joke |
| 17:11 |
ROllerozxa |
anyways so what's this minetest operating system project about? |
| 17:12 |
hn_ |
mostly "apps" in formspecs and binaries as commands in one of such app |
| 17:12 |
hn_ |
+ user management and custom home dirs... like for testing/learning purposes |
| 17:13 |
hn_ |
and anyways - why minestest takes mod dir as this in .minetest not .var/.minetest ? having bugs again... |
| 17:13 |
hn_ |
(installed fromflatpak) |
| 17:13 |
hn_ |
and again 404 ... |
| 17:15 |
hn_ |
oh, now know why error. nvm |
| 17:15 |
hn_ |
(forgot slash)( |
| 17:16 |
ROllerozxa |
when in doubt blame flatpak |
| 17:17 |
hn_ |
no, now fine. it was mine error :'D |
| 17:17 |
hn_ |
as i saaid - forgor slash... |
| 17:17 |
hn_ |
but now having error with syntax? probly... |
| 17:17 |
hn_ |
this : shell_commands.lua:3: ')' expected near 'do' |
| 17:18 |
hn_ |
need to add semicolon like in bash or how ? |
| 17:19 |
hn_ |
? |
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hn_ |
ded chat? |
| 17:24 |
ROllerozxa |
my crystal ball is broken, could you perhaps link to the code |
| 17:24 |
hn_ |
moment |
| 17:25 |
hn_ |
this : https://termbin.com/dl2z |
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| 17:27 |
hn_ |
and this error full : https://termbin.com/qoap |
| 17:28 |
hn_ |
ROllerozxa ↑↑↑ |
| 17:28 |
ROllerozxa |
hmm, have you tested if it's a case of lua being picky and wanting a space between the closing paranthesis and 'do'? |
| 17:29 |
hn_ |
was both with and wothout and still |
| 17:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> try having the same number of closing parens as you have opening ones |
| 17:29 |
ROllerozxa |
oh whoops, didn't even notice that |
| 17:30 |
hn_ |
no, now thrown no lib. probly fixed but gimme moment |
| 17:30 |
ROllerozxa |
yeah you need another closing one, gotta have balance |
| 17:30 |
ROllerozxa |
(I'm expecting a certain xkcd to be linked right about now) |
| 17:31 |
hn_ |
no, not needed. now findong way to install lfs (changed OS'es in between) |
| 17:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> No need to link the xkcd, it's implied. |
| 17:35 |
hn_ |
yes i also like this comic... no need to send |
| 17:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Also, while the fortune cookie one is the nominal reference, bonus points for thinking of the one about LISP. |
| 17:36 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> the "weapons from a more civilized time" one, not the "hacked it together in perl" one |
| 17:36 |
mrkubax10 |
did someone say ("lisp" "expression")? |
| 17:36 |
mrkubax10 |
:D |
| 17:37 |
hn_ |
anyways - why system throws that lua doesnt exist while i have it inMINETEST? |
| 17:37 |
hn_ |
(installing package manager for it) |
| 17:38 |
hn_ |
hlp |
| 17:38 |
ROllerozxa |
flatpak includes lua statically linked with minetest right? |
| 17:38 |
hn_ |
means ? |
| 17:38 |
ROllerozxa |
or maybe you have luajit installed with your package manager |
| 17:38 |
hn_ |
so how to install luarocks ? to install lfs ? |
| 17:39 |
hn_ |
(yep started messing up) |
| 17:39 |
mrkubax10 |
I would avoid using external libs when creating mods |
| 17:39 |
hn_ |
its for github |
| 17:40 |
hn_ |
;) |
| 17:40 |
ROllerozxa |
well it's like any other package isn't it, you are probably more knowledgeable about your own system's package manager than I am |
| 17:40 |
ROllerozxa |
`(package manager install) luarocks` or something |
| 17:40 |
hn_ |
synaptic worked |
| 17:41 |
hn_ |
(like always) |
| 17:41 |
mrkubax10 |
so it's not minetest mod? |
| 17:41 |
hn_ |
it uses externals |
| 17:41 |
hn_ |
but yes for mt |
| 17:42 |
hn_ |
mt still doesnt see lfs... |
| 17:42 |
hn_ |
geez |
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* ROllerozxa |
wonders what synaptic is |
| 17:43 |
hn_ |
package manager? gui ? debian ? |
| 17:43 |
hn_ |
no nothing u know ? |
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* mrkubax10 |
thinks that it's definitely not *system* package manager |
| 17:43 |
hn_ |
at me it is |
| 17:43 |
hn_ |
(i use solydx still lol ) |
| 17:43 |
hn_ |
(modded) |
| 17:43 |
hn_ |
but anyways - why mt doesnt see ext libs ? |
| 17:43 |
mrkubax10 |
s/package manager/package manager frontend/ |
| 17:44 |
ROllerozxa |
ah so a package manager GUI frontend. I thought it was like a package manager and wondered why I've never heard of it |
| 17:44 |
hn_ |
bro |
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hn_ |
apt |
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hn_ |
but nvm why it still throws that lfs doesnt exist? installed... |
| 17:45 |
ROllerozxa |
bro I'm mentally handicapped I use arch |
| 17:45 |
hn_ |
btw ? |
| 17:45 |
ROllerozxa |
not arch btw, just regular arch :P |
| 17:45 |
hn_ |
ok |
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* mrkubax10 |
is not cool enough for arch |
| 17:46 |
hn_ |
? |
| 17:46 |
hn_ |
talking as system ? |
| 17:48 |
ROllerozxa |
anyways about lfs not existing, are you sure flatpak is able to access system packages like that? flatpak is the one that has sandboxing stuff right? |
| 17:49 |
hn_ |
ye |
| 17:49 |
hn_ |
but minetest which is in my apt is as outdated as it doesnt support current maps |
| 17:49 |
hn_ |
and flatpak is global so.... |
| 17:51 |
MTDiscord |
<luatic> hn_: why should MT use LFS? It'd only be reasonable for exposure to the Lua API, and even then there would probably be security concerns. |
| 17:54 |
hn_ |
iterating thru all folder and searching for files to instantly register as commands? |
| 17:54 |
hn_ |
now u know? |
| 17:54 |
hn_ |
hope |
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ROllerozxa |
lol what if trucks in minetest |
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definitelya |
trains even |
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hn_ |
not transportaion mod ? |
| 18:37 |
hn_ |
both trucks and trains... and airplane too =] |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> farm machinery… |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> hn_: this is already possible using the APIs MT provides |
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MTDiscord |
<luatic> minetest.get_dir_list in particular |
| 19:30 |
hn_ |
and what it does? (im still n00b. maybe tomorrow you have matrix? voice chat i ask) |
| 19:30 |
rubenwardy |
it returns a list of files and dirs in a directory |
| 19:30 |
hn_ |
ah, more like ls or tree |
| 19:30 |
hn_ |
? |
| 19:33 |
aoki |
guys lets mine |
| 19:33 |
hn_ |
? |
| 19:33 |
erle |
hn_, have you read the minetest book that rubenwardy wrote |
| 19:33 |
aoki |
we need more mese |
| 19:33 |
hn_ |
but i read it... few times, api.txt , wiki and dev wiki too... |
| 19:34 |
erle |
aoki, make a mese messenger service mod with bright yellow mese postal boxes |
| 19:34 |
erle |
every player gets a mese address! |
| 19:34 |
MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> I wouldn't bother with either wiki, they're horribly outdated |
| 19:34 |
hn_ |
ikr? i just said i read |
| 19:34 |
aoki |
erle, is that a reference to mese meme origins? |
| 19:37 |
hn_ |
hey, how dumb it could be if i'd connect minetest to fediverse? means - give players nicks like in fedi (@user instacne/ip.com) , make a post app which could work like mastodon and make profiles (for server too) ? |
| 19:38 |
erle |
aoki mese is hungarian for fairy tale! |
| 19:38 |
erle |
hn_ why start with an @ in the username? |
| 19:38 |
aoki |
hn_, would be really cool to use public keys for player auth |
| 19:38 |
erle |
user @ server |
| 19:39 |
hn_ |
like mail. fedi is like mail |
| 19:39 |
aoki |
hn_, to prove authenticity, we can sign other player's signatures |
| 19:39 |
hn_ |
and make accounts for mt (optoinal) |
| 19:39 |
aoki |
can even have paid accounts, where you'd pay for signature |
| 19:39 |
hn_ |
ye lol |
| 19:39 |
erle |
emilia made an encrypted messenger CSM i think |
| 19:39 |
aoki |
based |
| 19:40 |
hn_ |
well... but its not a global tihngy communicating over http using masto |
| 19:40 |
erle |
i look it up i hope i find it |
| 19:40 |
hn_ |
ok |
| 19:40 |
aoki |
is fediverse instant messaging? |
| 19:40 |
hn_ |
no |
| 19:40 |
hn_ |
and i know it |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> fediverse is like FOSS Twitter |
| 19:41 |
hn_ |
yep ans i use it |
| 19:41 |
MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> (well, Mastodon specifically is) |
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aoki |
oh cool, tweet right from the mines |
| 19:41 |
hn_ |
ye |
| 19:41 |
hn_ |
or make chatcommand |
| 19:42 |
erle |
aoki fediverse is a distributed meming/shitposting/flirting solution for anarchists, queers & fossbros |
| 19:42 |
aoki |
great |
| 19:42 |
aoki |
finally anarchists can flirt |
| 19:43 |
hn_ |
im not too much (only linux) |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> "fediverse" actually refers to the federated method of moderation/de-centralization, but usually it's used to refer to Mastodon |
| 19:43 |
hn_ |
but i like it cuz got muted on twtt |
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rubenwardy |
GoodClover: Mastodon is part of the fediverse, but it's not the only app |
| 19:44 |
erle |
did you ask for cracked minecraft or what |
| 19:44 |
hn_ |
i know. |
| 19:44 |
hn_ |
no i dont as for crack |
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rubenwardy |
Mastodon is really good, is has good UX and I've personally found it less toxic than Twitter |
| 19:44 |
hn_ |
i talk about fedi |
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rubenwardy |
which is a surprise |
| 19:44 |
hn_ |
yep. me too. and less addicting |
| 19:44 |
erle |
it took twitter an attempt at insurrection to ban the annoying orange, so i think that getting banned there is an achievement. |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> the UX depends on what interface you use ? I use tusky personalyl |
| 19:44 |
hn_ |
(cuz of it i use) |
| 19:45 |
rubenwardy |
Well, I was referring to the official web interface. I use Tusky on Android |
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rubenwardy |
there's an official Mastodon app though |
| 19:45 |
hn_ |
oh, me too. tusky. with custom tabs =] |
| 19:45 |
hn_ |
(and on ios official) |
| 19:45 |
hn_ |
ey. why there isnt mt for ios ? lol |
| 19:45 |
rubenwardy |
was released recently, will probably take some time to mature |
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rubenwardy |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.joinmastodon.android |
| 19:45 |
erle |
rubenwardy many interfaces still heavily use the social media dark patterns that drive addiction, like endless scrolling or notifications or showing your friends avatars next to their messages (which i think drives engagement?) |
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rubenwardy |
hn_: license issues |
| 19:46 |
hn_ |
ah |
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MinetestBot |
[git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Update docs to reference CSS Color Module Level 3 583257f https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/583257f093b958be7e4e82803f53550e4a3beb8a (2022-04-21T19:45:20Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Fix some debug info showing despite being disabled in the UI (#12205) 4558793 https://github.com/minetest/minetest/commit/4558793caf48d63c74574ba740a96c92d0afcc2c (2022-04-21T19:45:47Z) |
| 19:46 |
hn_ |
dumb apple :'D |
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rubenwardy |
see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/12176#issuecomment-1090329805 |
| 19:47 |
hn_ |
last comment ? |
| 19:48 |
hn_ |
altstore? |
| 19:48 |
rubenwardy |
the comment I linked to, my one |
| 19:48 |
hn_ |
saw saw |
| 19:48 |
hn_ |
fine |
| 19:48 |
hn_ |
(while having 2 jb ipads lol) |
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hn_ |
(just asking, wont use this info) someone knows if minetest can be run on vr glasses? just asking if it looks okay cause 3d world should be very prepared for glasses i think :'D |
| 19:57 |
rubenwardy |
there are rendering modes that allow you to view the world using VR headsets |
| 19:58 |
rubenwardy |
but there's no integration with controllers or head movement |
| 19:58 |
hn_ |
o.O thank. just had a thought. nvm |
| 19:58 |
hn_ |
ah, ok |
| 19:58 |
hn_ |
but why isnt. i think should be... |
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hn_ |
and other question - you are on matrix? so i could join tmorrow? (finally bought wireless headphones lol, having some questions) |
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rubenwardy |
I am on matrix, but I'm not a huge fan of voice calls |
| 20:01 |
hn_ |
ah |
| 20:01 |
hn_ |
sad |
| 20:01 |
hn_ |
thought that there is a global group |
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rubenwardy |
there's an official MT space |
| 20:02 |
hn_ |
where ? |
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rubenwardy |
https://matrix.to/#/+minetest:tchncs.de |
| 20:03 |
hn_ |
thk |
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aoki |
has anyone tried using minetest with google cardboard? |
| 20:36 |
aoki |
wait... there's side by side rendering mode |
| 20:36 |
aoki |
hmm |
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aoki |
but does it support phone compas/accelerometer? |
| 20:37 |
aoki |
that's pretty cool |
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aoki |
hm, neither top-to-bottom and side-by-side 3d modes seem to work on andoroid |
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rubenwardy |
I have, when those 3d modes worked on android |
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rubenwardy |
but as said Minetest doesn't support VR controls such as head tracking (acc/gyros/compass) |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> side-by-side works for me, but upside down and the GUI controls freak out |
| 21:12 |
MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> flipped upside down, not rotated 180deg. |
| 21:13 |
erle |
just rotate the phone lol |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> but then everything's right-to-left |
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MTDiscord |
<GoodClover> How do side-by-side and crossview actually differ? |
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aoki |
btw do you know why media takes so long to load on android? |
| 21:20 |
aoki |
I am trying version from google play. Version from FDroid seemed a lot faster to load |
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aoki |
all I see is black screen :/ |
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aoki |
well anaglyph works on phone |
| 21:30 |
aoki |
but side-by-side is black screen |
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rubenwardy |
slow loading is due to 64bit Android issues |
| 21:31 |
aoki |
interesting |
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aoki |
cross eye view also shows pixelated mess instead of game |
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