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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Sorry about the lack of players, there will be more don't you worry, minetest's community is growing nicely |
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MTDiscord |
<Zhaolin Lau> can someone asks celeron55 for reactivating the minetest fb page? |
| 02:00 |
Swift110-mobile |
hello all |
| 02:00 |
Swift110-mobile |
good to hear that minetest is getting more users |
| 02:01 |
Swift110-mobile |
is anyone running a minetest server on a raspberry pi? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> >caring about faceberg |
| 02:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> There have been a few over the years |
| 02:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Also yeah, let Facebook die |
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MTDiscord |
<Zhaolin Lau> lul |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> Yeah don't support Facebook, sorry. It's essentially a net negative on societal productivity, happiness, and efficiency. Might as well be cigarettes or something |
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MTDiscord |
<exe_virus> On that subject, don't support google making search worse over time. By far that is one of the saddest parts of Google's dominance is seeing how much of your search results are paid for, or are videos, or pictures, or top level sites like reddit or Facebook. |
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celeron55 |
fb page? never even seen one |
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celeron55 |
and happy for it |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Is there a way to stop my server from doing this? Server: UncleDaddy moved too fast: V=132.2, H=0; resetting position |
| 08:23 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> The code is in src/server/player_sao.cpp, but I don't see any setting to disable it. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> If nothing else, I will just comment-out the code & use a custom build for my server. |
| 08:30 |
sfan5 |
there is a setting to disable anticheat |
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| 08:36 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/1805775f3d54043c3b1e75e47b9b85e3b12bab00/minetest.conf.example#L1408 but this also disables other anti cheat mechanics |
| 08:37 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I tried disable_anticheat once, but it didn't seem to make a difference. But I will try it again. |
| 08:38 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> Then you did something wrong... 'moved too fast' doesn't ever happen when anti cheat is off |
| 08:39 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> Did you actually set it to 'true'? |
| 08:39 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I was having the issue when mounted/attached to entities, but disabling anticheat didn't affect it. Maybe mounted/attached instances are unrelated. |
| 08:41 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> I thought players attached to entities are able to ignore the anti cheat entirely since that is server side controlled |
| 08:41 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Oh, ya. There is no message when attached to entities, so is unrelated. |
| 08:43 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> Yeah the 'moved too fast' for example triggers when the player loses connection for a bit without timing out completely and then reconnects and walked away a certain distance from the last known position |
| 08:47 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Okay, disabling anticheat seems to be working for normal movement. Thanks @IhrFussel. Just wish I could figure out what the problem with attached entities is. |
| 08:49 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> For that you need to describe the problem more detailed |
| 08:50 |
MTDiscord |
<IhrFussel> Under which circumstances do these messages appear? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Is there a significant performance disparity between minetest serialize/deserialize and write_json/parse_json? |
| 12:15 |
sfan5 |
both are parsed by C/C++ code while one is specifically meant and probably optimized for data serialization |
| 12:16 |
sfan5 |
in conclusion: who knows |
| 12:32 |
rubenwardy |
Serialize is in Lua and is faster |
| 12:33 |
rubenwardy |
JSON is in c++ and more standard |
| 13:03 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> Just note https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/7574 if your going to be handling a lot |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> notes to get back to improving his rewrite sometime |
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| 15:02 |
independent56 |
i have just realised the three disadvantages of fast walk speed - Mapblock load, Accuracy, and feeling like a snail on other servers/ |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest: Fix spurious shadow enablement in mainmenu 72927b7 https://git.io/JcG5G (2021-06-30T15:10:28Z) |
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| 16:06 |
ghoti |
I've noticed that the multicraft client on macOS seems to pause activity when it is not in the foreground, and when reactivated tries to "catch up" but usually times out from its server connection. Any idea if this is configurable behaviour, either in MC or in MT in general? |
| 16:07 |
ghoti |
MC2 on macOS, incidentally.. |
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| 16:15 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> It’s because of how M1 or iOS app enabled Macs handle inactivity |
| 16:16 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> Giving any other app focus will cause Multi a paused state |
| 16:17 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> I do however provide actual Intel and M1 enabled Minetest builds for Macs |
| 16:17 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> ghoti; https://www.dropbox.com/sh/jt3el1tn6s1yc82/AADHR74Y1tEQDb9NKQh5Csu-a |
| 16:18 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> I support Intel machines as old as Mavericks |
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| 17:10 |
ghoti |
@Jordach, those appear to be MT 5.5 builds. I am only experiencing this with MC 2.0.0, it doesn't happen for me in MT 5.3 which I normally run. |
| 17:10 |
ghoti |
I'm happy to test things, though. What's the difference between the two versions? The embedded Lua interpreter? |
| 17:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> Because the Mac App Store version is an iOS build which effectively uses a SIGSTOP |
| 17:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> When window or full screen focus is lost |
| 17:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> This behaviour is the same on iOS devices |
| 17:19 |
ghoti |
Ah, interesting. Thank you, that makes sense. |
| 17:20 |
ghoti |
Is it an *actual* SIGSTOP? Could I reactivate it with a SIGCONT? |
| 17:23 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> iOS apps are treated as kernel user so they’re untouchable unless you have true root level access |
| 17:23 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> In other words they’re processes and a fake one at the same time |
| 17:25 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> I should say the process you can access is the window wrapper that holds the app process |
| 17:25 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> But access to the actual app process is restricted |
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MinetestBot |
[git] AFCMS -> minetest/minetest: Run on_grant and on_revoke callbacks after privs change (#11387) 8cc04e0 https://git.io/JcZ8g (2021-06-30T18:40:45Z) |
| 18:40 |
MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Inventory: Make addList() consistent (#11382) f2fd443 https://git.io/JcZ82 (2021-06-30T18:39:38Z) |
| 18:43 |
MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Auth API: Error when accessed prior to ServerEnv init (#11398) 062fd21 https://git.io/JcZ87 (2021-06-30T18:42:26Z) |
| 18:43 |
MinetestBot |
[git] hecktest -> minetest/minetest: Remove unsupported video drivers (#11395) 827a785 https://git.io/JcZ85 (2021-06-30T18:42:15Z) |
| 19:06 |
ghoti |
@Jordach, from a user perspective, will I see a difference betten the "Lua" and "aJIT" version? Is there one which needs more testing than the other? |
| 19:06 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> JIT runs on machines that use Mavericks |
| 19:07 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> while the BigSur one requires Big Sur as it's a fat binary containing machine code for M1 and iNTEL |
| 19:07 |
ghoti |
Ah, I am running Catalina at the moment.. |
| 19:09 |
ghoti |
And I installed minetest from homebrew. |
| 19:09 |
ghoti |
So, no idea what binary I'm currently running. :) |
| 19:19 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> Catalina should work, the build runs fine on my 2013 Air |
| 19:19 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> for JIT at least |
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sfan5 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=396332#p396332 |
| 20:02 |
sfan5 |
!title |
| 20:02 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: How I make a MPEG transport stream? - Minetest Forums |
| 20:02 |
sfan5 |
heh |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
to make a tree |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
WAT |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Schematic files match MPEG2 encoding or something |
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MTDiscord |
<jordan4ibanez> This man turned a youtube video into a map you can download |
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| 21:20 |
robyndrake |
uhm sorry to bother with a stupid question, but is there a website with a referance to the modding API? |
| 21:21 |
entuland |
depends on what you mean with "reference" |
| 21:21 |
entuland |
the main reference is the lua_api.txt file you can find in the installation and on the github repo |
| 21:21 |
entuland |
then there is the modding book |
| 21:21 |
robyndrake |
ok, thank you |
| 21:21 |
entuland |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt and https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/index.html |
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entuland |
yw |
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Swift110-mobile |
Nice jordach I have it on my 2010 MacBook running Catalina |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> i haven't tested it with mavericks |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> since it's compiled against big sur target libraries |
| 23:56 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> (but since i forced them to cxx11) |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> things may work |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> i really need a test VM |
