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15:46 Kelp Hello. Can someone please help me? Minetest only gives me 49-50 fps but I have a 75 hz monitor.
15:46 Kelp I'm using GNU/Linux.
15:47 independent56 This may be due to the way your processor is underpowered, or the FPS may be capped. It's fine.
15:47 Kelp The max fps value is set to 75 in settings. I have tried vsync both on and off and neither of them give me over 50 fps.
15:47 Kelp I have a ryzen 7 1700x and a gtx 1660
15:47 Kelp It's not a specs issue
15:47 MTDiscord <Warr1024> If you shrink the window size or look up into the sky, does it get better?
15:47 Kelp No.
15:47 Kelp It only gives me 49-50 fps
15:47 Kelp No more, no less
15:48 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Does turning down any visual settings / shaders help any?
15:48 Kelp No. I have turned them off I think
15:49 Kelp Turning them off doesn't help
15:49 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Hmm, I don't know off hand, but it is an interesting problem.  Maybe some stray setting that's not obvious or easy to find, or maybe a driver or other system config issue...
15:49 rubenwardy sounds similar to an issue where NVIDIA GPUs were forcing V-SYNC on, ignoring Minetest's requests for it to be off
15:49 rubenwardy I know ryzen is AMD, but could be similar
15:49 Kelp I have NVIDIA
15:50 rubenwardy oh
15:50 rubenwardy oh wait, cpu
15:50 rubenwardy There's an env variable to fix it
15:50 Kelp CPU is ryzen 7 1700x
15:50 Kelp How do i do that?
15:50 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Well, vsync should cap it at 75 or some multiple or something
15:50 Kelp Yeah. But it caps it at 50
15:50 MTDiscord <Warr1024> unless your monitor refresh rate is misdetected
15:50 rubenwardy `vblank_mode=0 minetest`
15:50 MTDiscord <Warr1024> any other games work okay?
15:50 Kelp Yeah they all work okay
15:50 rubenwardy vblank_mode=0     is the environment variable and value
15:50 Kelp Minecraft and supertuxkart had no issues
15:51 MTDiscord <Warr1024> ruben: is that vblank mode thing specific to MT, or to irrlicht, or is that a more general convention?
15:51 Kelp How do I change environment variable?
15:51 rubenwardy open a terminal, and run     vblank_mode=0 minetest
15:51 Kelp Okay
15:51 rubenwardy that will at least check to see if that is the cause
15:52 rubenwardy Warr1024: it's not specific to MT
15:52 j1233 i know of somebody that had a similar problem and they fixed it by starting minetest with `vblank_mode=0 bin/minetest`, like ruben is suggesting
15:52 rubenwardy https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17196117/disable-vertical-sync-for-glxgears#17196118
15:52 rubenwardy it's a general thing
15:52 Kelp Lmao still 50 fps smh
15:52 Kelp Wait no. Supertuxkart also is only 50 fps
15:53 Kelp I've been playing 50 fps all this time without knowing
15:53 rubenwardy Supertuxkart uses the same 3d rendering library that we do
15:53 rubenwardy (Irrlicht)
15:53 Kelp OwO
15:54 Kelp I'm never buying nvidia again
15:54 MTDiscord <Warr1024> hmm, now I wonder if I should add the vblank_mode thing to my ~/.bashrc and/or ~/.xsession...
15:56 Kelp I can't stand this 50 fps lol
15:57 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Maybe if you get a 120Hz monitor then you can get 75fps.
15:57 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Or you just need to lower the fps of your eyeballs.
15:57 MTDiscord <Warr1024> 50fps is not an exact "harmonic" of 75Hz either so you're probably noticing some jitter.
15:58 Kelp When loading a minetest world i also  get this error...
15:58 MTDiscord <Warr1024> If you've been playing STK at 50fps the whole time without noticing though then it sounds like maybe you CAN stand this?
15:58 Kelp WARNING[Main]: Irrlicht: PNG warning: iCCP: CRC error
15:59 Kelp But now that i've noticed it's only 50 fps now i can't stand it
15:59 MTDiscord <Warr1024> oops, shouldn't have noticed then 😅
15:59 Kelp Lol
15:59 sfan5 sounds like some misconfiguration tbh, never seen this on any of my nvidia linux systems
15:59 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Re: the CRC error: some game/mod you're using has a PNG image that's corrupted or doesn't match a spec or something.  If you don't see anything wrong visually then you can probably ignore it, otherwise you can try to figure out which mod and then complain to the author.
16:01 Kelp I am using a texture pack i'll try to disable it then
16:01 Kelp Lol yeah it's the texture pack
16:01 MTDiscord <Jonathon> Typically you can ignore them tho
16:02 MTDiscord <Jonathon> However fixing it would be nice
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18:11 independent56 is there a "sudo apt update" but for minetest mods? i dont want to rely on the gui to update my mods.
18:12 sfan5 a CLI for the contentdb client is on the TODO list
18:14 independent56 yay! what is the latest due date?
18:15 Krock never
18:15 independent56 ok :-<
18:16 independent56 anyways, i have this worldedit region, and i want to do something like "//copy y -1 z 3", but it gives me an error. is there a way to copy in two directions
18:17 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/w2YV0yG
18:17 independent56 the region for reference
18:20 independent56 "//multi //copy y -1 //shift y -1 //move z 3" will work
18:23 rubenwardy there are unofficial CLIs available
18:24 sfan5 independent56: //stack2 1 0 -1 3
18:25 independent56 wow, thanks! i forgot that command existed, keeping it only in the "skyscraper building" category.
18:25 independent56 rubenwardy, The name of one you reccomend?
18:27 rubenwardy https://github.com/ronoaldo/minetools maybe
18:27 rubenwardy not tried it
18:31 independent56 the command wouldn't move the region so i just did "//multi //stack2 1 0 -1 3 //shift down 1 //shift z 3" instead. works exactly how i would like!
18:33 independent56 ran out of disk space again
18:36 independent56 i think mineteest should have a way of going "oh wait, only 50 mb left, better say "check disk space", then fail.
18:38 specing then your chat/log would be filled with "check disk space"
18:43 dzho that's presumably what the "then fail" part would take care of
18:44 MTDiscord <Warr1024> Every app can't be responsible for warning about low disk space.
18:44 dzho admittedly, that is sort of an OS-level responsibility
18:45 independent56 I know... but minetest should really alert chat "ERROR [server main] Disk Space is at 50 MB! to preserve your OS, shutting down!"
18:46 independent56 Being a memory hog, i think that it's it's responsibility.
18:47 independent56 Well... 46 gb is now free
18:49 specing independent56: you could make a mod that provides that warning
18:49 independent56 i could, but i can't. i have no experience in minetest modding
18:50 specing time to get some, then
18:50 independent56 haha yeah
18:52 Hawk777 If you’re going to install and/or make a mod anyway, why not just install something that has nothing to do with Minetest and just pops up (if you’re running this on your desktop/laptop) or e-mails (if you’re running it on a server) a notification when disk space is low? There must be hundreds of those out there for every imaginable OS.
18:54 Noclip[m] Minetest Wiki and Forum websites are very very in the last days. Are they getting ddos attacked again?
19:01 MTDiscord <Jonathon> I havent noticed the forum being anymore terrible than usual
19:02 independent56 They load really slowly
19:02 MTDiscord <Jonathon> Yes, its generally terrible, but still works
19:03 Noclip[m] Mhh, maybe you're right and it's just slow.
19:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> This morning was fine for me, i could try now
19:03 MTDiscord <Jonathon> Probably will 5xx to spite me
19:04 MTDiscord <Jonathon> ...and yeah, 504 atm
19:08 Pexin Kelp: using nouveau or official nvidia driver?
19:08 Pexin I've noticed different fps cap between those
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21:04 independent56 A player joined my server and via the logs, i found their IP and found that they were algerian. So they struggled with internet distance.
21:05 independent56 Only 44 M population, as compared to the UK's 68
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21:43 independent56 https://imgur.com/a/KPkzXif
21:43 independent56 Why dosent any server i see do this - add proper documentation?
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