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AndrewYu |
What is the limitation of MT displaying unicode, ie. Chinese charactars 像这样? Fonts? Protocol? (I hope it'd be fonts. Then it could be fixed with a simple client modification) |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Have you tried it and found it not to be working? I would expect the fonts to be the only barrier... |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> As I recall, MT ships with Arimo and Cousine fonts, and I don't know what their unicode coverage is like. I think Noto Sans has very good coverage though, so maybe swapping it in would work. |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Unfortunately I think font installation may be manual, which means probably particularly annoying on android? You have to install the fonts either system-wide maybe or in ~/.minetest/fonts... |
| 02:46 |
AndrewYu |
True |
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AndrewYu |
I'm on archlinux, it should be okay. However, one of my friends is on Windows, which *might* make things harder |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> for CJK characters, it's just font... I used Noto Sans CJK and it will usually appear fine |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> but for arabic, there might be separate issue |
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* AndrewYu |
is not arabic :D |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I remember the issue with Noto Sans being that there are so many characters in unicode they couldn't fit them all into one font |
| 02:54 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Minetest also only shows text in one font at a time and doesn't switch fonts based on language, so I think it probably doesn't do the "fallback" font thing |
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AndrewYu |
I guess I |
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AndrewYu |
I'm going to use Noto Sans CJK SC for my chinese |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I think on Windows installing a font is just the same process, isn't it? Find the font, drop it into the minetest "fonts" folder, and then change the font setting, whatever that is |
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* AndrewYu |
will try to let his friend solve Windows since AndrewYu is a windows idiot |
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Pexin |
AndrewYu: are you talking chat output or formspec? |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> the chat does work in displaying chinese, when font is set to Noto Sans CJK SC ... though input might be a problem on windows side |
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MTDiscord |
<MNH48> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/858206643313311764/unknown.png |
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independent56_ |
ahaha, yeah "farTown" is a much better name |
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independent56_ |
is there a way, using amidst, that i can see contours? i need a relitively flat section of land for a settlement, but i dont want to load all those mapblocks scouting, i need to use amidst. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Is it possible, in a mod, to show a node texture to one player, but show a different texture on the same node to a different player? |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I have my own fork of the walking_light mod. It has a debugging mode that changes the texture of nodes with light added. However, when the debugging is enabled, all players see the texture change. I was wondering if it would be possible to only show the texture change to the admin that invoked the command to enable debugging. Or, as an alternative, only show the texture to players that have a certain privilege. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> https://github.com/AntumMT/mod-walking_light/blob/bf57713/chat.lua#L70 |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The only visuals you can show to selected players only as far as I know are particles and HUDs |
| 06:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> There are also image waypoint HUDs so you don't have to use text waypoints. |
| 06:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Obviously both are extremely limited in that you can de fact only show sprites with them |
| 06:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I have an "admin mode" in my puzzlemap mod that allows admins to see nodes that have special attributes attached to them, and I believe I ended up using particles to do that. It was very much not ideal but I don't think there were really better options. |
| 06:29 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Thank you @Warr1024. I appreciate that input. It sounds like particles may be what I need to use. I was just now looking at waypoints (as I know nothing about them, & it was suggested I use them for a different mod). But sounds like from what you say, I won't be able to use them to visually represent a node on the screen. |
| 06:37 |
Extex |
Is there some way to find Servers that contain a certain mod? |
| 06:38 |
Extex |
Like you can see what mods a specific server has but is there a way to see what servers have a mod |
| 06:41 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> As far as I know, there is no way to look it up. |
| 06:42 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I know that some servers use a specific game. If you know the game they use, you can look up which mods that particular game includes. |
| 06:43 |
MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> There is the /mods chat command, but you can only use that once you have connected. And not sure if need any special privileges to use it. |
| 06:55 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> the server list actually captures mod lists from servers, IF they're using the normal MT server software or otherwise volunteer that information when pinged by the server list |
| 06:56 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> searching the server list requires you to parse the JSON probably |
| 06:56 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> the data is definitely there for at least some servers because you can see it on the HTML-formatted list too... |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> @Warr1024 I see what you mean. I went to https://servers.minetest.net/ and by hovering my cursor over Version, Subgame[, Mapgen] column, I can see the installed mods for many of them. |
| 08:32 |
independent56_ |
extex: you might do a crtl+f in https://servers.minetest.net. there, you can look for the mod, and it might show up. |
| 08:33 |
independent56_ |
nope, but in https://server.minetest.net/list you will be able to do that. one warning - it is unformatted. no syntax colouring. expect to get eyestraon |
| 08:33 |
independent56_ |
https://servers.minetest.net/list <-- not broken link |
| 08:41 |
independent56_ |
yes, its a hack. but it will work. |
| 08:45 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> hm, activated coolTrees and moreTrees, now my map gets taken over by giant trees. I also installed all flower mods I could find -- it's a lush world |
| 08:46 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> oops, giant sequias pop up everywhere, this can't be right |
| 08:47 |
VanessaE |
that's the idea :D |
| 08:47 |
VanessaE |
except not really |
| 08:48 |
VanessaE |
they ARE limited to certain areas |
| 08:48 |
VanessaE |
https://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Traintable_World/map.html#20/-338.00000/-278.50000 |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
this is carpathian mapgen with the full suite of flora |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
you can see by browsing around where they'll show up, like at the west end of that east/west road |
| 08:49 |
independent56_ |
https://imgur.com/a/1QaNu05 please rate my sextuple track viaduct. i spent 30 minutes on it. |
| 08:49 |
VanessaE |
(I tried to make them need dry-ish conditions) |
| 08:51 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> including that beautiflowers mod and nettles mod and wine and cuchina vegana and .... ? |
| 08:51 |
VanessaE |
well I don't have THOSE |
| 08:51 |
VanessaE |
but between plantlift, moretrees, and cool_trees there isn't much room left :D |
| 08:51 |
VanessaE |
plantlife* |
| 08:52 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> that's the problem I was having |
| 08:52 |
VanessaE |
well it doesn't help that the engine tends to overload the landscape with default trees |
| 08:52 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> seems I got to limit moretrees somewhat |
| 08:52 |
VanessaE |
that map I linked? that's typical of what I see on brand new worlds |
| 08:54 |
VanessaE |
btw if you don't mind a little lag, you can configure moretrees to spawn the trees themselves at mapgen time, rather than spawning them as saplings that grow a bit later |
| 08:54 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> I really like how cooltrees gives more variety to jungles and tundra |
| 08:54 |
VanessaE |
independent56_: it looks like total ass and you should be ashamed. |
| 08:54 |
VanessaE |
:P |
| 08:55 |
VanessaE |
(it looks fine :) ) |
| 08:55 |
independent56_ |
XD yeah |
| 08:55 |
independent56_ |
i mean, if i didnt fold it, then it would look worse. double deckerr was the only solution |
| 08:57 |
independent56_ |
but mainly, i end up with horrible straight tracks. https://imgur.com/a/RuY8VLT each of those lines is a track. i built multiple ones because "why not?" |
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MTDiscord |
<twoelk> playing with flower mods |
| 08:57 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/858269670867992596/screenshot_20210626_091629.png |
| 08:58 |
VanessaE |
independent56_: you should play on my traintable server |
| 08:59 |
VanessaE |
seems like you'd bring some order to the chaos that is its current rail system :P |
| 08:59 |
independent56_ |
link to images? |
| 08:59 |
VanessaE |
don't have any handy |
| 08:59 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> desert plants didn't spread as intended - they had plans of their own |
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MTDiscord |
<twoelk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/858270256120594432/screenshot_20210626_092131.png |
| 08:59 |
independent56_ |
screenshot > imgur > save lives (UK gov parody) |
| 08:59 |
VanessaE |
except that map link is current as of just minutes ago |
| 09:00 |
independent56_ |
hmm, show me the link. i can look at the chaos |
| 09:00 |
VanessaE |
https://daconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/worldmaps/Traintable_World/map.html#20/-355.00000/-533.50000 |
| 09:00 |
independent56_ |
wow... thats a long url |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
twoelk, a bit much don't you think? :P |
| 09:01 |
independent56_ |
modestly sized, cool server. i prefer my own. |
| 09:01 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> yeah, like I said. - They might have plottet to take over |
| 09:01 |
VanessaE |
lol |
| 09:03 |
independent56_ |
you put my "airport" to shame: http://2.26.38.198:8080/#!/map/0/11/-226/-66 |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
I didn't build it :) |
| 09:03 |
VanessaE |
I think User11 or ck43 did |
| 09:04 |
independent56_ |
well, you supervised it's building. |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
nope |
| 09:04 |
independent56_ |
0_0 |
| 09:04 |
VanessaE |
I was barely even there |
| 09:04 |
independent56_ |
"let me just get into this server, build silenty, and leave haha i am so evil" |
| 09:06 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 09:07 |
independent56_ |
let me show you a comparison image of old spawn station and new one |
| 09:07 |
independent56_ |
if it loads... |
| 09:08 |
independent56_ |
https://imgur.com/a/6N4flRi |
| 09:08 |
independent56_ |
the second image is all i have |
| 09:08 |
independent56_ |
zoom in XD |
| 09:12 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> looks very simplistic - could use some structural elements giving the space some rythm - but then again that is what many modern stations look like |
| 09:13 |
independent56_ |
yeah, i was aiming for that look. and all the more space to see your train |
| 09:18 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> is sofar around? his flower pot mod and his item frame mod seem broken |
| 09:18 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> in mt 5.dev |
| 09:18 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749727888659447960/858275036842295336/flowerpotbroken.png |
| 09:19 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> that's supposed to be a viola in the pot and frame |
| 09:23 |
MTDiscord |
<twoelk> somebody allready mentioned that in Nov 2020 in the forum in the frames thread |
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independent56_ |
im hoinh to write an issue for minetest about powerusers |
| 11:19 |
specing |
What's the issue? |
| 11:23 |
independent56_ |
issue 11 K |
| 11:23 |
independent56_ |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/11392 |
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specing |
> forced to make use of my touch pad |
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specing |
get a trackpoint lmao |
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independent56_ |
XD yeah nah. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Is it possible to override minetest.conf settings at the world level for SP, e.g. via world.mt? |
| 13:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I have in the past used minetest.settings:set() to enforce world-specific config, e.g. as could be done in a worldmod, but this "leaks out" into the minetest.conf file and thus also affects worlds that want to use a default value. |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> You can reset settings on shutdown |
| 13:31 |
MTDiscord |
<appguru> As the game might crash, you should probably persistently store old values as _old_somesetting = old_value and restore them on next start |
| 13:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> ...well yes but actually (shudder) |
| 13:31 |
MTDiscord |
<appguru> heh, you can even change the font - and it will work - this way |
| 13:32 |
MTDiscord |
<appguru> it's brilliant |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I can't restore them on start though because if the next start is into the world that runs this mod code, then it won't want the settings restored, and if it's into one that doesn't, it won't have the code to do the restoring. |
| 13:32 |
MTDiscord |
<appguru> yep, users will have to rejoin your world after the crash |
| 13:33 |
MTDiscord |
<appguru> or at least have to use the mod in both worlds |
| 13:33 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Ugh ... I mean, is there a real solution I can try first before I try to find the end on the roll of duct tape? |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Sir, this is a Minetest's |
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| 14:26 |
VanessaE |
so... |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
I have a wireguard VPN set up, which I've initially configured so that the only that's routed over it is access to a webpage/service that runs on the endpoint machine (unrelated to anything I'm asking about), while all other traffic normally just goes straight out without routing through the VPN layer. |
| 14:27 |
VanessaE |
the endpoint machine... you all know it. runs my game servers too |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE |
If I adjust the wireguard config so that ALL traffic is routed through it, everything works just fine and the world thinks I'm in France. |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE |
Except... I can't connect to my MT servers |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
I can reach webpages running on the machine, and literally everything else works, but the client can't reach the servers -- the connection times out |
| 14:29 |
VanessaE |
(the config adjustment above is a single-line change, the AllowedIPs setting) |
| 14:30 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> NAT for UDP might be a bit more complicated because the NATting side may not implicitly know to create applicable reverse routes...? Might have to use bidirectional NAT instead of traditional? |
| 14:30 |
VanessaE |
I ... am not sure I understandf |
| 14:30 |
VanessaE |
-f |
| 14:30 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I've solved the opposite problem, i.e. forwarding ONLY MT traffic from a gateway machine to a host. |
| 14:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The situation parallels yours in that it involves MT servers and wireguard. The difference is that the MT server host has no means of setting up forwarding, but I had a spare VPS box that I could use so he's basically borrowing just the IP/ports from me. |
| 14:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Users connect to the public MT server, iptables on the VPS forwards the connections thru wireguard, and his host "dials out" with wireguard to setup the tunnel to make his MT servers available. |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
wait wait |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
you're looking at it from the wrong side :P |
| 14:33 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Yeah, I only have a solution from the wrong side |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
everyone else can reach the MT servers except me :) |
| 14:33 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> so I'm not sure if it can help you, but maybe there is some insight buried in here |
| 14:33 |
VanessaE |
I mean, the VPN endpoint IS the machine the games are running on |
| 14:33 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport $PUBLICPORT -j DNAT --to-destination $WGPEERADDRESS:$MTPORT iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wg0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 14:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Hmm, so you're like VPNing into your MT server to make your traffic come from the MT server? |
| 14:34 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> the problem might be that you can't connect out to the public IP of the MT server, you'd have to use the private internal IP |
| 14:34 |
VanessaE |
to make my own internet traffic seem to originate from that machine, yes. |
| 14:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> but sometimes you can fake it to rewrite outbound traffic to the public IP as going to the private one instead |
| 14:35 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> but that depends a lot on your specific firewall and iptables is not one I know well. |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
ok, I didn't think to try using the endpoint's WG IP.. |
| 14:35 |
* VanessaE |
tries |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> I know that on OpenBSD using pf it's an issue, and I use a "redirection" to rewrite all traffic |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
AH |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
THAt works |
| 14:36 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Yeah, that'll work, but that's gotta be annoying having to have different addresses depending on whether you're using the VPN or not... |
| 14:36 |
VanessaE |
I can reach the game server if I use the remote's wg IP instead of the public domain/IP |
| 14:36 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> (and it being different from your regular players) |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
ok, so |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
the MT server saw me as connecting from 10.5.5.1, my PC's end of the VPN layer |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Yep, that's how it works |
| 14:38 |
VanessaE |
which is what I expected. |
| 14:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> the VPN is like a separate network adapter with its own address and network and such |
| 14:38 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> and that's what you connected using |
| 14:38 |
VanessaE |
but why won't MT answer, yet nginx, for example, does? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> if you can figure out the redirection/rewrite rule then you can make it so you can connect to the public IP but you'll still always see the VPN IP from MT's perspective. |
| 14:38 |
VanessaE |
I mean, I can point my browser at any webpage that's served-up from the nginx instance on the server, using the public domain/IP, and it works |
| 14:39 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> The MT/nginx thing is why I suspect there's a TCP/UDP disparity in how the firewall is handling state. |
| 14:39 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 14:40 |
VanessaE |
and something in your iptables command may be the answer? |
| 14:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> That seems weird to me because when I use pf, it handles TCP/UDP about the same, i.e. it seems to either work or not work for each using the same rules. I don't know why iptables should require different rules for UDP to work, but then, I don't see why iptables should do a lot it does the way it does. |
| 14:40 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Yeah, my iptables command is at least worth trying to understand ... maybe I should do that some day. |
| 14:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> It could also be an MT thing I suppose. The dude who's actually hosting the servers has had all sorts of headaches trying to get MT to accept every connection on every port 30000 ... but in his case the biggest headache was an IPv4/v6 issue at the time. |
| 14:41 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Using wg now everything is just pure v4 so I think things are simpler now at least. |
| 14:41 |
VanessaE |
maybe this then, iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p udp --dport 30000:40000 -j DNAT --to-destination 10.5.5.1 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wg0 -j MASQUERADE |
| 14:42 |
MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> As long as you don't decapitate yourself by changing something that would affect port 22, you can always experiment :-) |
| 14:42 |
VanessaE |
hm, missed a semicolon and I guess I want the server's wg IP in there. |
| 14:45 |
VanessaE |
BINGO |
| 14:45 |
VanessaE |
thanks :D |
| 15:05 |
independent56_ |
http://2.26.38.198/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=guidelines:railway_guide can i get some critiscism of my article? |
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Krock |
cannot edit |
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independent56_ |
you shouldnt |
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independent56_ |
just tell me what is wrong |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
why not |
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MTDiscord |
<entuland> meh, the page is "classed" as good, doesn't have a capital letter at the beginning of the sentences -literally none - and drops into useless antagonizing and gratuitous belittling of other people's work / world |
| 15:25 |
independent56_ |
it's my wiki, i say what i like. it is written formally, and it is wiki styke to not have capital letters. that server is the one which gave me endeless suffering. |
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* entuland |
shrugs |
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Krock |
btw: "I" is always written in capitals |
| 15:27 |
Krock |
but I dId not mean It lIke thIs but only for the person "I" |
| 15:27 |
independent56_ |
ok I wIll do that all the tIme now. |
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rubenwardy |
> this page is classed as good. it features good writing and is to be held as an example of good pages. |
| 15:28 |
rubenwardy |
https://rwdy.uk/BTvDu.png |
| 15:29 |
rubenwardy |
> written formally |
| 15:29 |
rubenwardy |
> no capital letters |
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specing |
lol |
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independent56_ |
meh, my wiki |
| 15:29 |
entuland |
rubenwardy++ |
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entuland |
independent56_, you asked for criticism |
| 15:29 |
independent56_ |
and i assume full and undesputed control over rating. |
| 15:29 |
Krock |
thanks rubenwardy. perfect meme use |
| 15:29 |
rubenwardy |
also booo https://rwdy.uk/vilx2.png |
| 15:29 |
independent56_ |
i meant in terms of the advice, or sentence slips. not the capitals or rating. |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
also get a domain |
| 15:30 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, raw IP addresses are super super dodgy |
| 15:30 |
independent56_ |
i should... too much bother for mum. |
| 15:30 |
rubenwardy |
if you want a free one you can use minetest.land |
| 15:30 |
Krock |
less dodgy than benrob's shady website... https://totallynotashadyweb.site/ |
| 15:32 |
independent56_ |
ha! tiddlywiki! |
| 15:33 |
Krock |
with edit permissions from what it looks like |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Tiddlywiki, nice, but that layout... |
| 15:35 |
Krock |
ahhh yeessss |
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Krock |
new entry *check* |
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independent56_ |
as long as it dosent save to the server, i think that's fine |
| 15:36 |
Krock |
aw snap. it really seems to be local only |
| 15:37 |
rubenwardy |
it's hosted using gitlab pages |
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rubenwardy |
so no hope for being user-editable |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
unless it has git integration |
| 15:38 |
independent56_ |
can anyone tell me a about a dokuwiki plugin which will automaticaly capitalise? |
| 15:38 |
Krock |
don't capitalise. be a communist. |
| 15:38 |
rubenwardy |
you could try this: https://rwdy.uk/WSeOf.png |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
rubenwardy: no, the upper key is more reliable |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
ALLOWS YOU TO CAPITALISE EVERYTHING EASIER |
| 15:39 |
independent56_ |
too much effort to edit every page and do that. |
| 15:39 |
Krock |
perhaps write it correctly from the beginning? |
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independent56_ |
i would have done that if i was not so stupid |
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independent56_ |
anYways, aLl this Discussion of Capital LeTters, and yoU are not Using TheM? |
| 15:40 |
rubenwardy |
context |
| 15:41 |
rubenwardy |
It's fine to not use capitals consistently in a chat, but not in a "formal" article |
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rubenwardy |
or any article with longform text |
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Krock |
with incomplete sentences at times |
| 15:41 |
rubenwardy |
chat tends to be incomplete sentences, and at most one sentence |
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independent56_ |
hmm... well i need to use a perl script to find and regexreplace stuff... like i go do "\. (.)" to "\. $1". |
| 15:43 |
independent56_ |
maybe not a script, but a command, like sed. |
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independent56_ |
but i will have to test in one test file. |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> You can't really uses RegExes, you'll need a proper document tree |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> For the content of nodes you will then be able to use regexes to split it into sentences, of which you should capitalize the first letter |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Probably you should use a natural language processing library for the latter though |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> https://polyglot.readthedocs.io/en/latest/index.html <- polyglots tokenization would do the job |
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MTDiscord |
<appguru> Let the serial wheel reinventor tell you one thing: You can often be a thousand times faster if you don't reinvent the wheel. |
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independent56_ |
is there any guide to build a railyard in advtrains? i am unsure. mainly about getting trains to stick there, and making interlocking give them the right route. if it is only luacontrollers then i might be able to get it to work. |
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independent56_ |
like, assign routing codes to trains because of occupied track, letting the signal set the route, making it sit there with luaatc, then when there is too little, out they go!. |
| 16:22 |
specing |
independent56_: use the source, Luke |
| 16:22 |
independent56_ |
haha |
| 16:22 |
independent56_ |
i should make some code and publish it |
| 16:22 |
independent56_ |
on my wiki |
| 16:23 |
independent56_ |
my pastebin gets status reports every 30 minutes, so it adds up and it is spam. |
| 16:23 |
independent56_ |
and wikis allow changes to the source |
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MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Krock: It does have Git integration actually, you can give it a Github/Gitlab API key that it will save in local storage and commit upon save..assuming you have write access to the repository. |
| 16:29 |
Krock |
@Benrob0329 heh that's pretty cool I guess.. but for wikis I'd really prefer a database rather than a git repo |
| 16:30 |
Krock |
unless git is used as database to keep track of changes. hmm... |
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celeron55 |
git as a backend to a wiki sounds pretty good actually |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
github wikis use git as a backend |
| 16:31 |
Krock |
on second thought yes. unusual but good |
| 16:31 |
rubenwardy |
it makes a lot of sense for a wiki |
| 16:31 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Its just because I can host it for free really :P |
| 16:31 |
* independent56_ |
laughs in dokuwiki not having a database |
| 16:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> I have a Wiki.js instance though that is gonna be backed to a git repo whenever I get around to actually putting stuff onto it |
| 16:32 |
MTDiscord |
<Benrob0329> Was gonna be a collaborative world building project, but I haven't had much writing inspiration as of late |
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independent56_ |
http://2.26.38.198/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=proposals:re_railyard |
| 16:48 |
independent56_ |
ok, there is the source |
| 16:49 |
independent56_ |
if anyone has any information regarding the ability to see the trains and when to store them, contact me. |
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independent56_ |
ha |
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independent56_ |
* y5nw is now known as ywang* ywang is now known as y5nw |
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y5nw |
I did that accidentally |
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y5nw |
sorry, connection problem |
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independent56 |
aye, i feel ye pain. i had that all the time (hence the rgular timeouts when i was part of the server) |
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independent56 |
oh wait he has gone /_/ |
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y5nw |
eh, I'm still here |
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independent56 |
could you direct me to some resources about how to build a railyard? i have got some of the luaatc sorted out, but wish o know what the amount of traffic is. |
| 18:37 |
independent56 |
http://2.26.38.198/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=proposals:re_railyard this is where the code is hosted. |
| 18:46 |
specing |
independent56: join the linux forks server, most of the train experts should be there |
| 18:46 |
independent56 |
if i wasn't deeply unwelcome there |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> isnt he still banned from there? ? |
| 18:47 |
independent56 |
perma. |
| 18:47 |
independent56 |
it was a horrendous decision to project my noony state onto that server. |
| 18:55 |
independent56 |
but i might as well use an alt to sneak information out. |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> nothing like telling everyone your comming |
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independent56 |
mainly psychological... warfare? |
| 19:00 |
independent56 |
well, not warfare, just a mean-spirited joke |
| 19:01 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> your one of those people like suchtea where they join on an alt, and just talking reveal themselves |
| 19:01 |
y5nw |
^ |
| 19:02 |
independent56 |
XD yeah, my speaking style is very 56i. |
| 19:02 |
specing |
looool |
| 19:02 |
specing |
banned for ...? |
| 19:02 |
independent56 |
wait.. isn't independent56_ is an alt of 56i... |
| 19:02 |
independent56 |
specing, first a fair reason, then unfair, then fair |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> according to you |
| 19:03 |
independent56 |
2/3 is'nt bad |
| 19:03 |
independent56 |
/j |
| 19:03 |
specing |
lol |
| 19:04 |
independent56 |
i have a full explenation buried in the wiki |
| 19:07 |
y5nw |
Anyway, regarding train counting, you can use the S variable for that |
| 19:08 |
independent56 |
wdym? can i have a code example? |
| 19:09 |
y5nw |
entry: if event.train then S.counter = (S.counter or 0) + 1 end |
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y5nw |
exit: if event.train then S.counter = (S.counter or 1) - 1 end |
| 19:10 |
y5nw |
basically a counter should be enough to an extent |
| 19:10 |
independent56 |
hmm |
| 19:10 |
independent56 |
does it need to be a global variable? |
| 19:11 |
y5nw |
*facepalm* |
| 19:11 |
independent56 |
so it is a global variable already? |
| 19:12 |
y5nw |
Go ahead and read this: http://git.bananach.space/advtrains.git/tree/advtrains_luaautomation/README.md?h=release-2.3.1#n52 |
| 19:12 |
independent56 |
ohhhhh |
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independent56 |
i literally did not know that piece of docs have existed. |
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independent56 |
im going to class capital letters as bitter medicine. |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> I want to iterate over a group of positions (or nodes) within a certain radius of a player. Would I use vector? For example, I want to populate a radius of 4 around the player with a certain node. How do I iterate over all positions within that radius? I see the method minetest.bulk_set_node, but I still need to find all the positions. |
| 20:33 |
Krock |
VManip, then zyx loops and pythagoras range checks if you want a shpere |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Yes, I do want a sphere. Thanks. I will research that. (now that I think about it more, the mod I forked should already have the answer in it somewhere) |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Oh, I think I can actually just use minetest.find_nodes_in_area |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> But that will probably give me a cube? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> almost everything is cubes by default |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> if you want a sphere, you can do vector.distance(pos, center) < radius, or if you really want to be perf-optimal and avoid the sqrt, local diff = vector.subtract(pos, center) then vector.dot(diff, diff) < radius^2 |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> If you want to iterate over them in a particular order, like nearest first, then that's a bit more interesting. |
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erlehmann |
if i rename an lbm in a game, will it be run again? |
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erlehmann |
like suppose i had a game |
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erlehmann |
where an lbm ran |
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erlehmann |
than a second one ran in a later version |
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erlehmann |
and i downgraded again |
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erlehmann |
can i rename the old lbm to get it to re-run? |
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Calinou |
is the up-to-date form `minetest.settings:get` or `minetest.setting_get()`? |
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Calinou |
to get a minetest.conf setting |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> erlehmann, yeah, you probably need a rename, and the rename should work I think? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Calinou, the former format is the current one I believe |
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Calinou |
thanks :) |
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MTDiscord |
<AntumDeluge> Yes, minetest.settings:get |
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