| Time |
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| 00:06 |
DS-minetest |
nevermind, I've found it. what I was searching for was the camera offset |
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absurb |
will minetest ever have an auto-updater? |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
that's your OS's job |
| 00:32 |
VanessaE |
applications should not have their own updaters. |
| 00:33 |
DS-minetest |
+ |
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| 01:52 |
absurb |
sure, but windows doesn't have one and microsoft ain't gonna add it any time soon |
| 01:53 |
absurb |
relying on microsoft to do this is foolish |
| 01:53 |
VanessaE |
get a better OS. |
| 01:54 |
TommyTreasure |
batch files on a schedule should work fine |
| 01:55 |
absurb |
i admire your integrity and your strong activist stances, like an ant pushing a tricycle, but let's be practical here |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
... |
| 01:55 |
absurb |
unless minetest gets put on steam, it's going to be a black sheep among other applications which do have autoupdaters |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
so who's gonna pay for it? |
| 01:55 |
TommyTreasure |
write a batch file to do the upgrading for you |
| 01:55 |
VanessaE |
and for it to get on the apple store properly? |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
and all the other places people want, where it costs money? |
| 01:56 |
VanessaE |
(I assume it costs on steam) |
| 01:57 |
absurb |
i have no idea how it works on steam anymore, after the greenlight system went kaput and steam became a free-for-all for developers |
| 01:57 |
TommyTreasure |
btw, what part of minetest are you wanting to have upgraded automatically |
| 01:57 |
VanessaE |
like I said, it's the OS's job to update applications. for an application to be able to do so itself implies that it must occasionally get root/admin level access |
| 01:58 |
TommyTreasure |
if i recall, the main game engine is only released 2 times a year in the stable version |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
(on a properly-functioning OS anyway) |
| 01:58 |
VanessaE |
TommyTreasure: close to that yeah |
| 01:58 |
TommyTreasure |
so what's the issue? doesn't seem to make sense |
| 01:59 |
TommyTreasure |
mods are the equiv to other games' 3rd party plugins, |
| 01:59 |
TommyTreasure |
and some you many not want to auto upgrade without verifying they work properly |
| 02:00 |
TommyTreasure |
either way, some sort of batch file or script will do the upgrade for you |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
I just run a script when I want to update all my mods, which reaches out to github/gitlab/etc, and that script is quite simple. |
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| 02:01 |
TommyTreasure |
there are some mods you need to be careful with upgrades, especially when they merge or push a branch into master, and you don't follow through with your research |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 02:01 |
absurb |
i like that, keeping lua mods updated automatically |
| 02:02 |
absurb |
that's something an OS will never do for you |
| 02:02 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> you can update via cdb |
| 02:02 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> if you really dont like git |
| 02:02 |
TommyTreasure |
i hate to say this, but there's one mod that has changed its master branch just this week. if you auto-upgrade that one, you now have a very broken mod |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
absurb: fail. I could just tie that script to crontab and have it run daily, weekly... hell, every 17 minutes if I wanted. |
| 02:03 |
TommyTreasure |
lol, full game backup every 15 minutes |
| 02:03 |
absurb |
you and i are programmers, most people toying with minetest aren't going to have the expertise for this |
| 02:03 |
TommyTreasure |
i'm not a programmer |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
I'm a programmer but it doesn't take a programmer to write a script like I use. |
| 02:04 |
TommyTreasure |
dos batch file programming is very hard to learn, and neither are the basic bash commands for linux scripts |
| 02:04 |
TommyTreasure |
isn't* |
| 02:04 |
absurb |
heh, i admire your faith in humanity |
| 02:04 |
TommyTreasure |
fat finger <<<<< |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
and it would be trivial for the minetest devs to include it with the engine if they wanted. |
| 02:05 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> update via cdb for people who dont have a brain is my suggestion |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
John: right |
| 02:05 |
TommyTreasure |
cdb isn't automated, as they're looking to do |
| 02:05 |
absurb |
heh |
| 02:06 |
* VanessaE |
sighd |
| 02:06 |
* VanessaE |
sighs |
| 02:06 |
TommyTreasure |
from my old fidonet/bbs days -- the most lazy sysop has the largest autoexec.bat file |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
haha |
| 02:06 |
absurb |
holy shit lmao |
| 02:06 |
absurb |
some people, i swear to god |
| 02:06 |
VanessaE |
TommyTreasure: or the largest collection of scripts :) |
| 02:07 |
TommyTreasure |
i ran a multinode bbs, with a binkleyterm mailer front end, using a lantastic network, and all nodes booted and ran from floppy |
| 02:07 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> i mean, its not auto update, but its pressing a button |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
exactly. |
| 02:07 |
TommyTreasure |
took time to write the batch files, but it ran for years |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
absurb: in any case if you think it's so important, go file an issue on github. |
| 02:08 |
VanessaE |
maybe the devs will agree. |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
(but I doubt it |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
) |
| 02:09 |
absurb |
honestly i'm too lazy, it's such a minor detail |
| 02:09 |
TommyTreasure |
as for minetest moving to steam, i doubt that very much. that's not a very good move for a game that steam can't make money for access |
| 02:09 |
absurb |
if nobody else has cared, i certainly won't |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
well then don't complain here about it. |
| 02:09 |
absurb |
i'm not complaining |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
either help or gtfo. |
| 02:09 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> honestly tho, someone should shove the concept of not outdate as heck software down linux package maintainers throats |
| 02:09 |
absurb |
i was asking if there were existing plans for it |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
(and yes, filing issues, done properly, is helping)_ |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
[03-21 21:55] <absurb> i admire your integrity and your strong activist stances, like an ant pushing a tricycle, but let's be practical here |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
[03-21 21:55] <absurb> unless minetest gets put on steam, it's going to be a black sheep among other applications which do have autoupdaters |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
yeah, nop. |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
this ^ is not "asking" |
| 02:10 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> there was talk in a github issue for windows updates if i recall correctly, but not linux because package maintainers would scream |
| 02:10 |
absurb |
i WAS asking |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
besides, Windows has a software store don't they? |
| 02:10 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> its a joke lol |
| 02:10 |
absurb |
lol |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
doesn't it* |
| 02:10 |
absurb |
windows store is awful |
| 02:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> some fool is selling 5.2 on it no less |
| 02:11 |
absurb |
never ever use it ever |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
some of us just run a decent OS :) |
| 02:11 |
VanessaE |
(Debian ftw) |
| 02:11 |
absurb |
sure |
| 02:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> the most outdated one ever |
| 02:12 |
absurb |
anyway, bots is my hot issue i want to push for |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
John: nah, not if you run the testing branch |
| 02:12 |
VanessaE |
that's about as up-to-date as any other distro while being pretty stable. |
| 02:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> hmm |
| 02:13 |
TommyTreasure |
i'll stick with my palm pilot |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:13 |
absurb |
excuse me why hasn't minetest been compiled for TempleOS? y'all are real slackers |
| 02:13 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> :thonking: |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
wtf is TempleOS? |
| 02:14 |
absurb |
damn |
| 02:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> a meme more or less |
| 02:14 |
absurb |
yeah, it's a meme OS created by a schizophrenic man |
| 02:14 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:14 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> i mean, its pretty impressive what he did do from scratch ish |
| 02:17 |
absurb |
kinda. it took him 10 years to essentially create something on-par with the C64's "Kernal" on x86 |
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| 02:20 |
absurb |
i'm literally shaking rn i can't believe minetest is not on gaystation and xcocks noooooooooooo |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
wtf |
| 02:21 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> :NowHwhatTheHeck: |
| 02:21 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> seems just ment to provoke tbh |
| 02:21 |
TommyTreasure |
well, that kills my interest here for the day. g'nite all |
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| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
night Tom. |
| 02:21 |
absurb |
shitposting aside, i recall there was discussion on how to properly implement mobs in the engine, or some kind of API for it |
| 02:21 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> looks at mobkit |
| 02:22 |
absurb |
mobkit is hot ngl |
| 02:22 |
VanessaE |
or TenPlus1's mobs |
| 02:22 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> no, just no |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
what? mobs_redo works pretty well I thought. |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
my players seem to like it |
| 02:23 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Your players also dont care about massive load times and shoddy performance |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
hey now |
| 02:23 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> limiting and overhead you dont need |
| 02:23 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> mobs_redo = lag |
| 02:23 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> its a simple equation |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> lol |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
how is mobkit any better tho? |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> It isnt, really |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> It is also a mess |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> People that praise it like the best replacement ever just want something different |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> it does give you way more control |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> and less overhead |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Sure, it has upsides |
| 02:24 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> But it also has downsides glances at code |
| 02:25 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> also, is there a mod you dont have something to complain about? |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:25 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Sure. Bakedclay. |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
he'd complain about ilights too :) |
| 02:25 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> *non simple mod? |
| 02:26 |
absurb |
i suppose a large contention about mobs is in how it would be implemented into the base game if it were implemented in any official capacity |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
it never will be |
| 02:26 |
absurb |
yeah |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
because "the base game" is frozen |
| 02:26 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> How do you define non-simple, wsor? |
| 02:26 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> more than registering basic nodes |
| 02:26 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> WorldEdit is pretty solid |
| 02:26 |
VanessaE |
engine devs want people to play other MT-related games, not just mtg |
| 02:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> hmm, yeah |
| 02:27 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Ethereal is absurd in a lot of places but functionally reasonable |
| 02:27 |
VanessaE |
(which is to say they don't like that minetest_gam is considered the "base game". |
| 02:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> tho it has stagnated in terms of new commands |
| 02:27 |
absurb |
shit, when i say "base game" i meant the engine |
| 02:27 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Villages is alright too |
| 02:27 |
absurb |
i kinda didn't want to imply the C++ part of the engine, though |
| 02:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> nothing is perfect ?♂️ |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> People should use the term "builtin" more often ;p |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> ^ |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> builtin is the Lua part of the engine |
| 02:28 |
VanessaE |
absurb: it would take both. the engine would need changes, and games would need to supply the content i.e. that actual models/textures/behavior |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> >engine change |
| 02:28 |
absurb |
of course |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> doubt |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Oh, also Air Sword is obviously the most perfect mod in the world. |
| 02:28 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Literally no flaws |
| 02:29 |
absurb |
what games do with mobs isn't particularly important for now |
| 02:29 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> its the most efficient mod for minetest ever |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
Green: I mean for what he wants, which is obviously motion/paths and AI as part of the engine, and general behavior, look, etc being part of the game |
| 02:29 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> > i kinda didn't want to imply the C++ part of the engine, though |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
no, but that's still what it would take |
| 02:29 |
absurb |
yeah |
| 02:29 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Why? |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
otherwise if it's all Lua it may as well continue to be a mod. |
| 02:30 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Well of course |
| 02:30 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> builtin is basically mods |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
which means it has no point in being part of the engine package. |
| 02:30 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Correct |
| 02:31 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> The only thing the engine needs is better default pathfinding. I mean you can make super fast Lua pathfinding, but it would still be even better if the engine did it right |
| 02:31 |
VanessaE |
*nod* |
| 02:31 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Entities already have the capacity to be amazing mobs, people are just bad at using them |
| 02:31 |
absurb |
personally i don't think the engine would need many changes, except improvements to the pathfinding algorithm. mod makers have shown they can already build the whole API in lua |
| 02:32 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Also no mob implementation has utilized an Entity Component System, which would seriously boost performance |
| 02:34 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> (re perfect mods: Digilines is pretty good, ignoring the fact that it uses Mesecon style wiring. Hoppers also work just fine.) |
| 02:34 |
absurb |
building it into the engine would definitely allow for performance boosts which mods and games can't accomplish alone |
| 02:34 |
absurb |
the reason i think adding something like this would be worthwhile is because it would be utilized the same way, for example, privileges are |
| 02:35 |
absurb |
a centralized way which would let mods work with each other and not clash |
| 02:35 |
absurb |
mobs using two entirely separate systems would have completely unknown interactions, if at all |
| 02:35 |
absurb |
if any at all* |
| 02:36 |
absurb |
i hope i speak for everyone when i say mob infighting is fun to watch and even more fun to instigate |
| 02:37 |
absurb |
but, like i said, i think there would be too much disagreement on how it should be implemented. and besides, API mods seem to work well enough for this |
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LoneWolfHT |
Is it just me or is this user broken? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=376792#p376792 |
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luk3yx |
Could it be a deleted user? |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> It looks like the server list might be ignoring the Accept-Encoding header when deciding whether to return the server list JSON gzipped. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> (either it or some reverse proxy or CDN or something) |
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sfan5 |
entirely possible |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> It does now strike me as a bit odd that --compressed is not enabled by default in my curl cmdline tool. |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> HTTP requests w/o compression support are pretty much an anachronism these days |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Compressed responses w/o compression-enabled requests is definitely wrong, but I don't know if it's really worth fixing anyway. |
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sfan5 |
should be fixed now anyway |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> Oh, thanks |
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tech_exorcist |
where is Minetest's client↔server communication protocol's documentation, if there is any? |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/protocol.txt |
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tech_exorcist |
thanks! :D |
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sfan5 |
somewhat interesting: map positions mapped to heat (X) and humidity (Y) used by biome gen thus showing a Voronoi diagram of biomes |
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sfan5 |
https://i.imgur.com/wOCNukS.png |
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leo_rockway |
I thought the biome transition was subtle, not sharp like that. |
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leo_rockway |
unless that's not minetest? |
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sfan5 |
the heat/humidity noise takes care of subtle transitions, here it's just a linear function |
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MTDiscord |
<Warr1024> it's a verynoice diagram |
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leo_rockway |
sfan5: gotcha. Thanks. |
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Herkules |
Hello, i have a quick modding question: |
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Herkules |
Is there a method or function that gives me the unix-timestamp? |
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sfan5 |
os.time(os.date("!*t")) |
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sfan5 |
or maybe just os.time() |
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sfan5 |
(I googled "lua unix time" for that) |
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Herkules |
Thank you very much for that quick answer. It does work :) |
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Herkules |
Now i look like a fool. I somehow thought that i can't call os in my mods. |
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sfan5 |
they're indeed sandboxed but harmless functions are left in |
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Herkules |
Nice to know for future projects. |
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