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SoylentCow |
GreenXenith we are gonna have celeron shout at us again, but for what it's worth, minetest-the-engine does not have any "gameplay" at all, and is not really a video-game, so some semantic compromises were made |
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SoylentCow |
for sam's sake, 9let's discuss this article somewhere else |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> What, did he yell at someone before? x) |
| 00:09 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> That is fair though |
| 00:53 |
MTDiscord |
<Ronoaldo> http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Player |
| 00:53 |
MTDiscord |
<Ronoaldo> Well, never knew about the origin of Sam name. |
| 00:55 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> Ah, that's where its from. Unfortunately 1st party :p |
| 00:56 |
MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> thats where it could be cited* |
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MTDiscord |
</g/> >Lore on mtg |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> >last modified 2013 |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> >currently no third person mode |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> lol |
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MTDiscord |
</g/> :hyperXD: |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> oh wait it is technically not first party |
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MTDiscord |
<GreenXenith> since minetest.com isnt owned by c55 at the moment |
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MTDiscord |
</g/> lol |
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MinetestBot |
[git] SmallJoker -> minetest/minetest: Settings: Push groups in to_table as well 3a2f55b https://git.io/Jtpnj (2021-03-01T11:14:41Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] EliasFleckenstein03 -> minetest/minetest: Make pkgmgr handle modpacks containing modpacks properly c401a06 https://git.io/Jtpce (2021-03-01T11:13:47Z) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Disable clang-format, clean up scripts ccdaf5d https://git.io/Jtpcv (2021-03-01T11:12:52Z) |
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adfeno |
sfan5, rubenwardy: Re: translation: found the issue, indeed it was my setup. I forgot to include some paths containing locale definitions to LOCPATH. |
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adfeno |
Sorry, not locale definitions, but locale memory objects (.MO) files, for which one had Minetest's. |
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adfeno |
I wish Minetest used gettext format for mod localization, this would allow merging intllib into the code base. Although I don't know if it would be doable, so this is just a random thought. |
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rubenwardy |
there's a PR for that |
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rubenwardy |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/10451 |
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sfan5 |
not sure what that has to do with intltlib though |
| 11:44 |
rubenwardy |
just needs testing |
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sfan5 |
intllib* |
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adfeno |
Besides, Gettext has support for fuzzy marks, compendia (automated translation of messages based on a common .PO file with all possible terms). |
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rubenwardy |
intllib used the gettext format, meaning you can copy from one to another |
| 11:44 |
adfeno |
and Gettext also has numerous graphical user interface editors for the .po files. |
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rubenwardy |
like weblate |
| 11:46 |
adfeno |
sfan5: ^ see rubenwardy's message |
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sfan5 |
ah I see |
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adfeno |
Re: compendia/compendium: for example, GNU Union (the software behind the translation mechanism of GNU.org) supports that file, when a new page in an original language gets created or updated, the compendia/compendium can be used to make a .PO file out of the original. Such .PO can be tested further as usual. |
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adfeno |
Also, it would contribute to solve part of https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6503 |
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sfan5 |
I don't think so, the PR doesn't replace the translation system with gettext it only adds parsing for .po files |
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adfeno |
(in regards to the possiblity that the mod maintainers could, say, especify pt_BR.UTF-8 as a symbolic link (or any similar link) to C.UTF-8 or vice-versa. |
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adfeno |
If I'm not mistaken, C.UTF-8 (or just C) is used is used if no translated string is found for a given original string, for each language the client/user prefers/expressed in $LANGUAGE (colon-separated list of languages understood, without character set). |
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sfan5 |
gettext might do that but it's not what the PR adds |
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MinetestBot |
[git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: Use vec4 for varTexCoord in interlaced shader (#11004) 1abb83b https://git.io/Jtp8N (2021-03-01T12:37:32Z) |
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adfeno |
All in all, for my locale issue, I forgot that all Guix-installed packages use GUIX_LOCPATH instead of LOCPATH, and while I did follow the advice from Guix's info document telling us to do `export GUIX_LOCPATH=$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/locale`, the package I was testing (Minetest) stored locales uder …/share/locale. |
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adfeno |
Guix-installed packages use GUIX_LOCPATH because it is through this variable that Guix knows that it must sufix each with corresponding glibc-locales version that given package depends on, only then the path is passed to the program. This is done to avoid errors if given package isn't compatible with some version of glibc-locales. |
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haska |
Players, what do you think about built-in password&nickname manager for servers? |
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adfeno |
Actually, rephrasing my last message: that version sufix only applies to libc itself, it doesn't seem to apply to individual packages. |
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adfeno |
But GUIX_LOCPATH is equally important to be set to point to locales of such packages anyways. |
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adfeno |
So the issue was indeed lack of information (not from Minetest). |
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[Pokey] |
Hey hey, I'm having trouble activating my forum account, I keep getting a gateway timeout |
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[Pokey] |
Nevermind, it finally went through |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> 502 or a 504? thats normal, get used to it |
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sfan5 |
certainly not normal but the forum sometimes has load problems |
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[Pokey] |
Aha |
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[Pokey] |
as long as thats known its fine |
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[Pokey] |
If it wasn't I'd be worrieds |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> its gotten a lot better since a few months? ago when c55 kicked the bots and did upgrades |
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