Time Nick Message 00:03 SoylentCow GreenXenith we are gonna have celeron shout at us again, but for what it's worth, minetest-the-engine does not have any "gameplay" at all, and is not really a video-game, so some semantic compromises were made 00:03 SoylentCow for sam's sake, 9let's discuss this article somewhere else 00:09 MTDiscord What, did he yell at someone before? x) 00:09 MTDiscord That is fair though 00:53 MTDiscord http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Player 00:53 MTDiscord Well, never knew about the origin of Sam name. 00:55 MTDiscord Ah, that's where its from. Unfortunately 1st party :p 00:56 MTDiscord thats where it could be cited* 00:57 MTDiscord >Lore on mtg 00:58 MTDiscord >last modified 2013 00:59 MTDiscord >currently no third person mode 00:59 MTDiscord lol 00:59 MTDiscord :hyperXD: 00:59 MTDiscord oh wait it is technically not first party 00:59 MTDiscord since minetest.com isnt owned by c55 at the moment 01:00 MTDiscord lol 11:14 MinetestBot 02[git] 04SmallJoker -> 03minetest/minetest: Settings: Push groups in to_table as well 133a2f55b https://git.io/Jtpnj (152021-03-01T11:14:41Z) 11:15 MinetestBot 02[git] 04EliasFleckenstein03 -> 03minetest/minetest: Make pkgmgr handle modpacks containing modpacks properly 13c401a06 https://git.io/Jtpce (152021-03-01T11:13:47Z) 11:15 MinetestBot 02[git] 04rubenwardy -> 03minetest/minetest: Disable clang-format, clean up scripts 13ccdaf5d https://git.io/Jtpcv (152021-03-01T11:12:52Z) 11:38 adfeno sfan5, rubenwardy: Re: translation: found the issue, indeed it was my setup. I forgot to include some paths containing locale definitions to LOCPATH. 11:41 adfeno Sorry, not locale definitions, but locale memory objects (.MO) files, for which one had Minetest's. 11:42 adfeno I wish Minetest used gettext format for mod localization, this would allow merging intllib into the code base. Although I don't know if it would be doable, so this is just a random thought. 11:43 rubenwardy there's a PR for that 11:44 rubenwardy https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/10451 11:44 sfan5 not sure what that has to do with intltlib though 11:44 rubenwardy just needs testing 11:44 sfan5 intllib* 11:44 adfeno Besides, Gettext has support for fuzzy marks, compendia (automated translation of messages based on a common .PO file with all possible terms). 11:44 rubenwardy intllib used the gettext format, meaning you can copy from one to another 11:44 adfeno and Gettext also has numerous graphical user interface editors for the .po files. 11:44 rubenwardy like weblate 11:46 adfeno sfan5: ^ see rubenwardy's message 11:47 sfan5 ah I see 11:51 adfeno Re: compendia/compendium: for example, GNU Union (the software behind the translation mechanism of GNU.org) supports that file, when a new page in an original language gets created or updated, the compendia/compendium can be used to make a .PO file out of the original. Such .PO can be tested further as usual. 11:58 adfeno Also, it would contribute to solve part of https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/6503 12:00 sfan5 I don't think so, the PR doesn't replace the translation system with gettext it only adds parsing for .po files 12:01 adfeno (in regards to the possiblity that the mod maintainers could, say, especify pt_BR.UTF-8 as a symbolic link (or any similar link) to C.UTF-8 or vice-versa. 12:04 adfeno If I'm not mistaken, C.UTF-8 (or just C) is used is used if no translated string is found for a given original string, for each language the client/user prefers/expressed in $LANGUAGE (colon-separated list of languages understood, without character set). 12:07 sfan5 gettext might do that but it's not what the PR adds 12:38 MinetestBot 02[git] 04srifqi -> 03minetest/minetest: Use vec4 for varTexCoord in interlaced shader (#11004) 131abb83b https://git.io/Jtp8N (152021-03-01T12:37:32Z) 12:44 adfeno All in all, for my locale issue, I forgot that all Guix-installed packages use GUIX_LOCPATH instead of LOCPATH, and while I did follow the advice from Guix's info document telling us to do `export GUIX_LOCPATH=$HOME/.guix-profile/lib/locale`, the package I was testing (Minetest) stored locales uder …/share/locale. 12:54 adfeno Guix-installed packages use GUIX_LOCPATH because it is through this variable that Guix knows that it must sufix each with corresponding glibc-locales version that given package depends on, only then the path is passed to the program. This is done to avoid errors if given package isn't compatible with some version of glibc-locales. 13:19 haska Players, what do you think about built-in password&nickname manager for servers? 13:23 adfeno Actually, rephrasing my last message: that version sufix only applies to libc itself, it doesn't seem to apply to individual packages. 13:24 adfeno But GUIX_LOCPATH is equally important to be set to point to locales of such packages anyways. 13:24 adfeno So the issue was indeed lack of information (not from Minetest). 15:55 [Pokey] Hey hey, I'm having trouble activating my forum account, I keep getting a gateway timeout 15:58 [Pokey] Nevermind, it finally went through 16:07 MTDiscord 502 or a 504? thats normal, get used to it 16:16 sfan5 certainly not normal but the forum sometimes has load problems 16:21 [Pokey] Aha 16:21 [Pokey] as long as thats known its fine 16:21 [Pokey] If it wasn't I'd be worrieds 16:22 MTDiscord its gotten a lot better since a few months? ago when c55 kicked the bots and did upgrades