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IRC log for #minetest, 2020-10-28

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07:47 MTDiscord <a​ppguru> the code is probably in Irrlicht
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11:15 tango_ I've been wary of using TNT because there's one thing that still isn't clear to me: does it “mine” or just destroy things?
11:15 sfan5 minetest_game tnt also drops items
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11:16 tango_ so if I do it near, say, a vein of some ore, this can be a fast way to get such ore?
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11:40 specing tango_: there's a chance that it'll destroy the ore
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11:46 tango_ specing: ah thanks
11:48 MTDiscord <w​war> Tnt on minecraft do not drop every blovk it destroys
11:48 specing tango_: install techpack and get yourself a few ore sieves, heh
11:48 specing tango_: oh, and terumet to x3 the ores
11:55 tango_ specing: eh 8-)
11:55 tango_ I was really hoping to explore all aspects of MTG before looking into mods
11:59 specing you can do both simultaneously
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13:55 tango_ is something like dowsing possible in the current client/server architecture?
13:55 tango_ By that I mean something like this: if player is holding item X and there is a node Y within a certain distance (and possible direction) of the player, then show some kind of message / enable some kind of visual effect
13:56 tango_ or would this be extremely expensive because every time the player moves the server needs to check N nodes?
13:56 tango_ (keeping in mind that the Y might be outside of the player view)
13:59 big_caballito[m] you could maybe do something like have node Y output a player effect, like radiation, and the player can't tell unless they are holding X
14:00 big_caballito[m] that way it won't? be as expensive
14:00 tango_ big_caballito[m]: is there a mod I could check for reference?
14:01 big_caballito[m] https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=20185
14:01 big_caballito[m] maybe
14:01 big_caballito[m] idk about the detector tool tho
14:02 big_caballito[m] https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=5735 too
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14:05 big_caballito[m] except I can't find the code for that one ^
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14:06 tango_ yeah noticed
14:06 tango_ the radiation one might be an interesting base though
14:06 tango_ esp if it's using this new raycasting api
14:07 big_caballito[m] the geiger counter one would have been really interesting, too bad the code's gone
14:07 big_caballito[m] .shrug
14:09 rubenwardy You can do particle and HUD effects. You can also use entities in first person in 5.4.0-dev
14:11 Benrob0329[m] Can we make entities visible to only one player yet?
14:13 tango_ hm radiation register a function called on every globalstep
14:13 tango_ (although it only updates at lower freq)
14:16 tango_ uh, this would be relatively simple, I think
14:17 tango_ at each timestep, for each player, if wielding drowing item, get node / group for which to drowse, and if find_nodes_in_area returns at least a hit do HUD effect or whatever
14:17 tango_ nice
14:17 tango_ can't wait to find time to write this
14:42 big_caballito[m] how can i view my ping to a server?
14:42 sfan5 F5
14:42 sfan5 the RTT is the ping in seconds
14:43 big_caballito[m] thanks :)
14:44 Calinou we should probably change its display to be in milliseconds by the way
14:44 Calinou it's uncommon for people to talk about ping in seconds :)
14:44 ferrumcccp rubenwardy: what are entities in first person about
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14:49 tango_ Calinou: I was wondering about that. I mean, not even in my old 56K days I had SECONDS of ping
14:53 tango_ although it does involve an extra division per refresh
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15:04 tango_ hm is there a reason why cmake insists on using the bundled jsoncpp despite me having the -dev package installed?
15:05 tango_ ah I have to force it
15:05 tango_ I wonder why
15:06 sfan5 distros used to have broken jsoncpp versions or something
15:06 tango_ I see
15:07 tango_ oh uff now I need to fork the repo just for a simple patch
15:08 tango_ [100%] Linking CXX executable ../bin/minetest
15:08 tango_ /usr/bin/ld: warning: libgmp.so.10, needed by /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librtmp.so.1, may conflict with libgmp.so.3
15:08 tango_ intredasting
15:12 tango_ BTW, master's client seems much smoother
15:12 tango_ or is it just my impression?
15:13 big_caballito[m] master's client?
15:13 tango_ also I'm getting 2ms of RTT which seems a bit ... low
15:13 tango_ big_caballito[m]: yeah
15:13 tango_ master's client against distro server on a different machine
15:13 big_caballito[m] whtas that?
15:14 tango_ big_caballito[m]: client from HEAD of git master branch
15:14 big_caballito[m] * whats that?
15:14 big_caballito[m] Oh, that makes sense, lol
15:14 tango_ just did a quick test, but it seems much smoother animation wise
15:14 tango_ dunno why
15:15 tango_ might be just my impression
15:15 tango_ I should test outside, in the jungle
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15:15 big_caballito[m] i thought maybe master was a minetest fork or something lol
15:15 tango_ THAT really killed the distro client at 4K on the igp
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16:33 ferrumcccp how to end me
16:39 ferrumcccp i dont want to live
16:44 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Shout 'I love TikTok' in public and stop going offtopic here
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17:42 tango_ wait I already have a minetest fork
17:43 tango_ 7325 commits behind minetest:master.
17:43 tango_ lol
17:53 tango_ Calinou: there you go ;-) https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/10573
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18:02 KacperMinetest I can't locate the minetest.conf file, I've reffered to the wiki
18:05 Calinou KacperMinetest: which OS are you on? Are you running Minetest from a build with RUN_IN_PLACE enabled?
18:05 Calinou if RUN_IN_PLACE is enabled, minetest.conf will be in the root folder of your Minetest installation
18:06 Calinou if not, it will be in ~/.minetest on Linux, and probably %APPDATA%\minetest on Windows (not sure)
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18:07 KacperMinetest It's missing from the installation folder
18:07 KacperMinetest on Linux
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18:08 KacperMinetest I run a dedicated server, I need to access it to make myself admin
18:09 Calinou how did you install the server? Did you build it from source or use a distribution package?
18:09 KacperMinetest built from source
18:09 KacperMinetest runinplace enabled
18:09 Calinou you may have to create the file manually if it's a server build
18:10 Calinou stop the server, create minetest.conf with "name = YourName" and restart
18:10 Calinou log in as YourName and you'll have all privileges
18:10 KacperMinetest I think I've tried that already, but I wll try again and report back
18:13 KacperMinetest It worked, thank you!
18:31 KacperMinetest How to turn on creative mode for myself on the server?
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18:35 sfan5 /grantme creative
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18:43 KacperMinetest thanks
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19:17 MTDiscord <w​war> @KacperMinetest@IRC#0000 do /grantme all
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21:06 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> ❌
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22:01 tango_ lua api  question: I want to check if the item the player is wielding belongs to a certain group
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22:02 tango_ player.get_wielded_item() gives me an ItemStack. by a quick look at https://minetest.gitlab.io/minetest/class-reference/#methods_2 there's no API to check if the item is in a specific group
22:03 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> minetest.get_item_group() or something like that
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22:03 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Returns 0 if doesn't exist IIRC
22:04 tango_ ah, from the name
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22:45 greeter is it possible to report spam on the minetest forums?
22:46 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Should be a report button in the form of an exclamation mark
22:46 greeter ah i see it now. thank you
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