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16:08 tango_ I want to creat an item that doesn't stack, cannot be used for digging, but has a special “passive” effect when held
16:11 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Set stack_max on a craftitem to 1
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16:13 tango_ and create a standard item instead of a tool?
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16:46 anon5[m] Why is zoom disabled when FOV is set as a multiplier?
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17:08 niwla23[m] hi
17:14 big_caballito[m] 👋
17:14 niwla23[m] is this now bridged to IRC?
17:14 niwla23[m] i cant see history
17:14 big_caballito[m] Yes, this is the IRC channel
17:15 big_caballito[m] I think you can't see the history before you joined the room
17:15 niwla23[m] are you on IRC or matrix?
17:15 big_caballito[m] Matrix
17:16 big_caballito[m] If you just joined, you can't see history from before you joined
17:16 specing tango_: like a torch?
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17:16 tango_ specing: if torch lit the world around you while you wielded them, yes, but not
17:16 specing It does on servers
17:17 tango_ wat
17:17 specing it's a mod that does that
17:17 specing there's*
17:17 tango_ woah I want it
17:17 specing tango_: expand your horizons, play MP :P
17:17 tango_ what'sMP
17:17 tango_ anyway, I'm trying to write a dowsing mod as a way to learn the MT api
17:17 specing MultiPlayer
17:18 tango_ so when you hold it you get information about nearby “nodes of interest”
17:18 specing you want an ore detector, lol?
17:19 tango_ yes, but done in a pseudo-realistic way and not too aggressive
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17:19 tango_ the idea is that the basic rod only dowses water
17:19 specing "dowses"?
17:19 tango_ but you can augment them with ingots of the appropriate material to get a detector for that material
17:19 tango_ specing: isn't it called dowsing?
17:20 tango_ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dowsing
17:20 tango_ I'm not sure if the verb to dowse exists though 8-D
17:20 specing ahhh
17:20 tango_ oh yes it does
17:20 specing https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/dowsing
17:21 tango_ yeah
17:21 tango_ so it will only help you detect ores after you're already found one of the specific type
17:22 tango_ so I think I'm at a good point with the mod already
17:22 tango_ should be able to test it with water now
17:23 tango_ but I wanted to make sure that the item is not placeable
17:23 tango_ one question I have is if it's possible to add some kind of arbitrary (immutable) attribute to craftitems
17:23 tango_ e.g. I would like to add a dowsing table with the information about what can be dowsed and how far
17:24 specing I think it'd be better if you managed to convince oregen to spawn veins among nothingness
17:24 tango_ I'm going for something like this http://sprunge.us/ZvUzX4?lua
17:25 tango_ specing: this mod can be used on existing worlds 8-D
17:30 specing tango_: so could a new oregen
17:32 tango_ ANYWAY
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17:52 MTDiscord <c​Hyper> How can i migrate to a developer on the minetest.net forum? thx for info. cu cHyper
17:54 MTDiscord <c​Hyper> and why is the forum so lagggyyyyyy.. sorry but thats a big problem why does celeron55 nothing ..... to improve the speed 😉
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18:43 tango_ does find_node_near find the closest node within the given range? or any node?
18:49 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Where did you find that function?
18:51 tango_ Lone_Wolf: https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/en/map/environment.html#finding-nodes
18:51 tango_ maybe it's recent?
18:52 tango_ seems to be good enough for my purposes
19:03 sfan5 I believe it's the closest
19:03 sfan5 but the api doesn't seem to make that guarantee
19:04 MTDiscord <L​one_Wolf> Oh, I misread that. It returns the closest IIRC
19:12 MinetestBot [git] Oblomov -> minetest/minetest: Show RTT in ms with 2 digits of precision (#10573) a701d24 https://git.io/JTD5j (2020-10-29T19:09:59Z)
19:16 MinetestBot [git] appgurueu -> minetest/minetest: Player physics: Ensure larger dtime simulation steps (#10563) 2dff3dd https://git.io/JTDdE (2020-10-29T19:15:46Z)
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19:41 tango_ I'm surprised chat_send_player doesn't accept a player as first argument
19:42 tango_ what does this message mean?
19:42 tango_ 2020-10-29 20:41:33: ERROR[Main]: Ignoring escape sequence 'T@default' in translation
19:42 tango_ I was hoping to do a string.format(S("You sense %s %s"), target_name, genloc) where target_name and genloc are strings
19:43 sfan5 translations have replacements that look like @1 @2, use them
19:46 tango_ ah makes sense
19:53 tango_ can I have something that if burned provides a leftover?
19:55 MTDiscord <w​war> Make fire spreads on, not sure...
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20:29 tango_ wow my first working lua mod
20:29 tango_ I'm so excited
20:29 tango_ now I need a better UI/HUD for the effect of the rod
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21:08 tango_ is there a trigger/callback for when a player wields/unwields an item(stack)?
21:10 sfan5 no
21:11 tango_ hm
21:12 tango_ I wanted to create a new hud element that would appear when the user wields this particular item, but it looks like I'll have to do it some other way then
21:13 sfan5 no you can do that
21:13 sfan5 but you'll need to check if the item has changed manually, in a globalstep
21:16 tango_ true, but at this point I might just as well do it already from within the function that gets called when the item action triggers (be it manually or passively)
21:16 tango_ ah, but then I wouldn't be able to remove the hud when the item gets unwielded
21:16 tango_ uff
21:17 tango_ oh well in the passive check I can check if there is a hud defined for that player and remove it if the item is not being wielded
21:17 tango_ let's try this
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21:35 tango_ ok it works
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21:49 niwla23[m] The minetest binary says it made the server but client won't connect to it. I portscanned my pc, the port is not open. Is this problem known? What can I do about it?
21:50 niwla23[m] I am on ubuntu 20.04
21:59 Calinou niwla23[m]: the port needs to be forwarded on your router if you want the server to be accessible from outside the LAN
21:59 Calinou also, how are you creating the server?
21:59 Calinou there are 3 ways to host a Minetest server :)
22:00 niwla23[m] no i am just clicking start game
22:00 Calinou (minetestserver binary, minetest client binary with the --server switch, "Host Game" from the menu)
22:00 niwla23[m] and get a timeout
22:00 niwla23[m] Host Game and --server also broken for me
22:00 Calinou how did you install Minetest?
22:01 niwla23[m] Tried both, latest dev self-build and 5.1 from apt
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22:03 sfan5 some sort of sandbox in the way?
22:03 niwla23[m] nope not that I know
22:04 niwla23[m] a friend has the same problem on kubuntu
22:06 rubenwardy what address are you using to connect to the server?
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22:07 niwla23[m] I just clicked start game
22:07 niwla23[m] so minetest should do that
22:07 niwla23[m] elf
22:07 niwla23[m] * so minetest should do that itself
22:07 rubenwardy minetest doesn't automatically connect clients to servers
22:08 rubenwardy are you referring to the client and server in the same instance for Start Game with host server checked?
22:08 niwla23[m] yes, also with hsot server unchecked
22:08 niwla23[m] no way to play local
22:08 rubenwardy so singleplayer isn't working?
22:08 niwla23[m] yes
22:09 MTDiscord <w​war> Singleplayer crashs immediatly? Happens if u have a mistake on a code of an added mode
22:09 niwla23[m] no crash, just timeout
22:10 niwla23[m] no errors in logs
22:10 MTDiscord <w​war> So u can join for some seconds?
22:10 niwla23[m] no
22:10 niwla23[m] connection timeout
22:10 niwla23[m] the port is closed
22:10 niwla23[m] when i check with nmap
22:10 niwla23[m] on localhost
22:10 MTDiscord <w​war> Weired
22:11 MTDiscord <w​war> Maybe try remove the mods?
22:11 niwla23[m] i did
22:11 niwla23[m] no mods
22:11 MTDiscord <w​war> Make a new singleplayer game
22:12 rubenwardy this won't be a mod error, but a restart might help
22:12 * niwla23[m] uploaded an image: image.png (66KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/kMvQKvegBJITRWUircFDhtEN/image.png >
22:12 MTDiscord <w​war> Well how connection will time out on an offline thing?
22:13 niwla23[m] <rubenwardy "this won't be a mod error, but a"> you mean the whole PC?
22:13 niwla23[m] <MTDiscord "<wwar> Well how connection will "> Connections on loopback are the same as on local or gloabl networ
22:13 niwla23[m] just faster
22:14 niwla23[m] okay i will try rebooting
22:14 MTDiscord <w​war> Can u make another singleplayer world?
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22:26 niwla23[m] i tried already
22:26 niwla23[m] reboot also did not help
22:27 rubenwardy what's in debug.txt / the console?
22:30 MTDiscord <w​war> Well thats weired....
22:30 MTDiscord <w​war> @niwla23[m]@IRC did u ever edited anything on the mt game mods?
22:32 niwla23[m] <niwla23[m] "image.png"> rubenwardy
22:32 niwla23[m] <MTDiscord "<wwar> @niwla23[m]@IRC did u eve"> No
22:33 MTDiscord <w​war> Then idk crushs happened to me when i edited the code~ Sry cant help all what i can say is delete-reinstall MT :/
22:34 niwla23[m] As i said already, i did also that
22:41 tango_ damn, vector lib doesn't have a way to get the oriented angle of two vectors?
22:42 tango_ or a way to get pitch and yaw of a vector
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23:47 tango_ I'm starting to like my dowsing mod
23:52 tango_ wait there's no “food” group?
23:57 ZoeS17 niwla23[m]: Does the user your running MT as have write perms on that world dir? What is the output of 'ls -la worlds/ && ls -la worlds/world1'?

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