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MTDiscord |
<Vili> Is the Android version playable now? I tried to couple of years ago and it was not really nice experience |
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tango_ |
vili: depends on your treshold for playable |
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tango_ |
the controls are still a bit finnicky, and doing precision placement right is nigh impossible, but you can do stuff |
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tango_ |
I've also experienced from time to time frequent server desyncs + disconnect |
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tango_ |
but this might be connection-related |
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tango_ |
(problem is, I've seen it happen even on local wifi) |
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tango_ |
do keep in mind I'm working on a phone with a ridiculous aspect ratio (nearly 2:1), so a tablet and/or something with a more sensible aspect ratio might work better |
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tango_ |
yeah, dungeon and cave exploration _seriously_ needs a better mapping facility |
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specing |
time for CSM 3d mapper? |
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specing |
Hmm, why is core.localplayer sometimes nil? |
| 12:34 |
sfan5 |
it's nil until the player is initialized |
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sfan5 |
e.g. at startup |
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Aris |
huh, interesting |
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specing |
sfan5: it's consistently nil today in globalstep, it wasn't nil for the past month |
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sfan5 |
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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sfan5 |
report a bug |
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specing |
can't, minetest has no ethically/morally acceptable bug reporting facility |
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BuckarooBanzai |
specing: this is about the github thing, is it? |
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specing |
BuckarooBanzai: yes |
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ferrumcccp |
then what s wrong with github issues |
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specing |
it's proprietary, nobody will migrate off without being forced, they block access to developers from US sanctioned countries |
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BuckarooBanzai |
so does gitlab btw... |
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specing |
not to mention the latest debacle with youtube-dl |
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specing |
BuckarooBanzai: self-hosted GitlabCE does not, neither does sourcehut or notabug |
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ferrumcccp |
u shpuld be thankful |
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ferrumcccp |
i live in china |
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BuckarooBanzai |
notabug isn't usable anyway, don't know about sourcehut. Self hosted gitlab _is_ nice but that won't help with community building if you just create an island... |
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rubenwardy |
specing: you can report on the forums |
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rubenwardy |
Also, youtube-dl are idiots and GitHub did nothing wrong |
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rubenwardy |
They shouldn't have had tests that pirated music |
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rubenwardy |
The music and entertainment industry also sucks but eh |
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specing |
rubenwardy: that's true about y-dl |
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sfan5 |
specing: I'd be very surprised if sourcehut allowed developers from US sanctioned countries to use their platform |
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sfan5 |
since they're developed by an US citizen and hosted in the US |
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specing |
Hmm |
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specing |
I thought he was german |
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Calinou |
Codeberg is accessible since it's hosted in th EU |
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Calinou |
the EU* |
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Calinou |
as in, it's accessible to people in US embargo'd countries |
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Calinou |
it makes sense to have a read-only mirror there, but we don't have enough people to check for issues in two places |
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MTDiscord |
<cHyper> How can i add a german wiki page to the wiki of minetest.net ?? thx for info !! cu cHyper |
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Calinou |
create a page with the following name: Page Name/de |
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Calinou |
e.g. Torch/de |
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MTDiscord |
<cHyper> thx @Calinou |
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MTDiscord |
<cHyper> @Calinou how do I add a page i only know how to modify a existing page? thx for info. |
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Calinou |
search for the page name using the search bar, then use the "create this page" link in the error message that appears |
| 15:16 |
Calinou |
"Create the page "Your page name/de" on this wiki!" |
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Calinou |
make sure a corresponding English version exists for the page first :) |
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MTDiscord |
<cHyper> @Calinou thx for helping. i am new to add/modify wiki entries... |
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specing |
Why does localplayer.get_wield_index return 0-indexed index? |
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specing |
in CSMs |
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VanessaE |
so tell me something, did anyone ever write a comprehensive mod to address this? |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
ttps://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1235 |
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VanessaE |
seeing how paramat in his usual dictatorial stance has basically killed mtg |
| 17:35 |
VanessaE |
er https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/1235 |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> I did a model for Nodecore that supports MC skins. Just needs a few animation improvements |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> It also has a wave anim that NC players love to death |
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VanessaE |
well the short version being: does something exist that supports 3x arms, 4px arms, and both 64x32 and 64x64 format, and also allows HD skins :) |
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VanessaE |
and which works with 3darmor |
| 18:00 |
VanessaE |
(I provided suitable Minetest player models in that ^ issue, I just wonder if anyone ever put them into use with a proper automatic detection of the skin format and hence automatic model selection) |
| 18:01 |
VanessaE |
I've been out of the loop for a long while, a combination of personal issues and burnout |
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VanessaE |
been kinda thinking about getting active in MT again, but I don't want to pour my time into something if it's dead or not needed |
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sfan5 |
in any case MTG is officially frozen ("dead" if you prefer) https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/issues/2710 |
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sfan5 |
perhaps a fork can fill the void it's going to leave, but it'll need a clear vision |
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VanessaE |
yeah I know. |
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VanessaE |
though by "dead" I meant whatever random thing I might think of addressing i.e. something no one wants |
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VanessaE |
didn't actually mean mtg itself there |
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sfan5 |
oh |
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VanessaE |
("killed" also didn't mean "dead" but more like "resolved not to do any more work") |
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sfan5 |
Minecraft skin format seemed to be a pretty popular feature request |
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VanessaE |
yup |
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VanessaE |
sfan5: the thing that turned me off was that I went through the trouble of providing models and outlining a simple algorithm that could use existing code, and still got shot down |
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VanessaE |
(that info is buried inside the 170-some "hidden items" in 1235) |
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sfan5 |
that's understandable |
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sfan5 |
I can't remember the reasons in this case but in general it's frustrating dealing with paramat's arguments why something should/shouldn't be sometimes |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> HD skins are a bit heavy on the media loading. And I don't know anyone who uses 3px skins |
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VanessaE |
EVERYone uses them now on Minecraft |
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VanessaE |
about half the skins people have submitted to me in the past couple years has been 3px |
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VanessaE |
have* |
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VanessaE |
they're popular among players who prefer a girl/woman model |
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VanessaE |
I guess skin authors gravitate to the 3px arms because they look a little more proportionally-correct? |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> VanessaE I can always cook up a model that supports all known model types and you just set the correct material later via set properties |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> Or automate it via a quick check of texture name |
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MTDiscord |
<Jordach> player_old player_new player_slim .. player:get_player_name() |
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MTDiscord |
<wwar> ? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Avoid resending near blocks unnecessarily. 68cd93b https://git.io/JTP2S (2020-10-27T19:08:44Z) |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: like I said, I already provided working models. but meh. |
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Flitzpiepe |
hello everyone |
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MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> hi |
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big_caballito[m] |
? |
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tango_ |
wow |
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* tango_ |
just went through the comments for #1235 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1235 -- Remove liquid_finite and weather by proller |
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tango_ |
ah, MTG issue |
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tango_ |
lol |
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tango_ |
good bot, bad bot ;-) |
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elias_ |
hello, can anyone help me with minetest hacks? I don't understand how to install them |
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VanessaE |
hacks like what?> |
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MTDiscord |
<wwar> Lol |
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VanessaE |
Well if you mean things like fly, clipping, super speed, always daylight, you should not expect help of that kind from here, the project's main channel. I'm pretty sure we don't, as a general rule, support "hacks" that facilitate cheating. |
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MTDiscord |
<wwar> Fly, fast no-clip and these things called "cheat" |
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hecks |
Hey, any clue why ansi escapes don't seem to work in minetest's console output? I'd like to color some stdout messages but I can't. |
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MTDiscord |
<wwar> Why everyone here is hecks or wants hacks? ? |
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Aris |
lol idk |
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SwissalpS |
hecks: have you tried minetest.colorize() ? |
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SwissalpS |
that's what beerchat mod uses to colour text |
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hecks |
but I mean *stdout* in particular, that is, print() |
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hecks |
something is magically blocking ANSI sequences from working in there, not just color but all of them |
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MTDiscord |
<wwar> Where are u trying this? |
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SwissalpS |
oh, sorry. missunderstood that one :/ |
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hecks |
Just code called from init.lua trying to print some terminal control sequences into stdout |
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Calinou |
which OS are you on? How are you trying to print the escape codes? |
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Calinou |
there are at least 2 ways to input an escape code, if not 3 |
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Calinou |
e.g. \e[1m, but there's one that also involves \x and a bunch of other characters |
| 23:44 |
Calinou |
and you could also use a Lua function that enters the Unicode codepoint directly into the string |
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Calinou |
(that's how you print colored messages to stdout in Godot for instance) |
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MTDiscord |
<Calinou> (wow, the Discord bridge can pick up my avatar? that's pretty nice) |
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hecks |
it doesn't really matter, \e and \x1b translate to the same ascii code |
| 23:44 |
Calinou |
ah yes, it was \x1b |
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Calinou |
is there a function in Lua to append a Unicode codepoint directly? |
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hecks |
there might be a luajit extension for unicode sequences |
| 23:45 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/godotengine/godot/issues/2308#issuecomment-441663751 |
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Calinou |
you'd have to do something like this, but in Lua |
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hecks |
anyway my terminal is xterm-compatible and everything works in raw luajit |
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hecks |
but minetest makes the sequences not work somehow |
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hecks |
I can't use my lua debugger in MT because of this, because it has a curses-like display |
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hecks |
the fishy thing is that I found no code or documentation suggesting that escapes are stripped |
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MTDiscord |
<Lone_Wolf> !tell elias_ /grantme all |
