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jas_ |
call me a dick |
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jas_ |
!mod |
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MinetestBot |
jas_: Cake [cake] by MrIbby - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=13530 - https://github.com/minetest-mods/cake |
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erlehmann |
does anyone know what happened to git.minetest.land? |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
rip |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
yet nothing on the forums... |
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Bombo |
win b |
| 18:20 |
Bombo |
whoops ;) |
| 18:24 |
Bombo |
https://wiki.minetest.net/Player so you can't change the skin? (color) |
| 18:25 |
heavygale |
add a skins modto the server ^^ |
| 18:26 |
Bombo |
how? this is empty https://wiki.minetest.net/Skin |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
!mod skin |
| 18:27 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Skinsdb [skinsdb] by bell07 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=17899 - https://github.com/minetest-mods/skinsdb |
| 18:27 |
Krock |
https://content.minetest.net/packages/?q=skin |
| 18:29 |
Bombo |
ok *read* |
| 18:34 |
erlehmann |
i mirrored the last version of mineclone2 i had locally |
| 18:34 |
erlehmann |
git clone 'http://daten.dieweltistgarnichtso.net/src/MineClone2.git' |
| 18:34 |
erlehmann |
just if anyone is missing it |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
also https://github.com/kay27/MineClone2/ |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
though that's salted |
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erlehmann |
salted? |
| 18:38 |
erlehmann |
Krock, cursed? |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
with extra commits, or "dirty" |
| 18:40 |
erlehmann |
the big issue is losing the issues |
| 18:40 |
erlehmann |
well it's not like ppl said for ages that you should keep issues in the repo |
| 18:40 |
erlehmann |
welll |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
erlehmann: btw, interesting dating website you've got there |
| 18:41 |
erlehmann |
Krock, are you applying? because the last person that said that went from “nice website” to “lemme send you nudes” in half a day :P |
| 18:41 |
erlehmann |
Krock, i am actually using that website to brag about my SVG skills |
| 18:41 |
erlehmann |
Krock, everything SVG on it has been created in emacs |
| 18:42 |
erlehmann |
i am drawing the paths manually, so to speak |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
must be quite tiring to do that, no? |
| 18:42 |
erlehmann |
Krock, have you seen the reptiles yet? |
| 18:42 |
erlehmann |
no it is actually nicer to do it than using inkscape |
| 18:42 |
erlehmann |
because i do animations |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
and the inkscape coordinate system transformations are really hostile to doing animations properly |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
sometimes i want to do absolute and relative motions within a path |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
to make later animation easier |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
try doing that in a GUI |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
the spider web for example |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
if you mouseover it, a gust of wind damages it |
| 18:43 |
erlehmann |
so the start of the strands is absolute coordinates |
| 18:44 |
erlehmann |
for each of them |
| 18:44 |
erlehmann |
but then it goes relative |
| 18:44 |
erlehmann |
it's a different way to work on graphics |
| 18:44 |
erlehmann |
but then again, i have drawn maybe 500 emoji for gnu unifont using emacs and bitmap(1) |
| 18:45 |
Krock |
cool |
| 18:55 |
erlehmann |
Krock, do you like the reptiles? they are under the windows PGP key thingy |
| 19:09 |
Krock |
yes. random disappearing effect. didn't know this was possible |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> mwf mineclone2 kinda died a bit |
| 20:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> then crafter came along |
| 20:24 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> and now crafter is somewhat on hold because of new game engine use |
| 20:27 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> eh, hopefully these games get done eventually |
| 21:25 |
Calinou |
I tagged v1.0.4 on the `gauges'` mod but the webhook is failing to update: https://content.minetest.net/packages/Calinou/gauges/ |
| 21:50 |
rubenwardy |
erlehmann: official version here https://content.minetest.net/packages/Wuzzy/mineclone2/ |
| 21:56 |
erlehmann |
rubenwardy, nope |
| 21:56 |
erlehmann |
rubenwardy, click on the „source“ link there |
| 21:56 |
erlehmann |
git.minetest.land is dead |
| 21:56 |
rubenwardy |
ContentDB stores a .zip version of releases |
| 21:56 |
erlehmann |
which does not contain the git history |
| 21:56 |
erlehmann |
right? |
| 21:57 |
rubenwardy |
so if you just wanted the latest version, you can get it from there |
| 21:57 |
rubenwardy |
most people just want the latest version |
| 21:58 |
erlehmann |
i want to make it possible for people to continue development |
| 21:58 |
erlehmann |
the newest version 0.67.2 is older than the newest thing i had in my home folder |
| 21:58 |
erlehmann |
i hope git.minetest.land comes back though |
| 21:58 |
erlehmann |
there are over 800 issues lost now :( |
| 21:58 |
erlehmann |
and some branches |
| 22:06 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> has wuzzy made any comment on it yet? |
| 22:17 |
eeerungur |
the mineclone2 repo is down? |
| 22:18 |
sfan5 |
yes |
| 22:29 |
erlehmann |
eeerungur, yes the whole of git.minetest.land vanished and wuzzy too |
| 22:29 |
eeerungur |
:o |
| 22:29 |
eeerungur |
hope they are ok. |
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MTDiscord |
<Genshin> is there a way to verify if a player is using a mobile client? |
| 22:55 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> i'm working on autodig and autoplace detection, but it appears that mobile users also cannot return LBM or RBM control inputs |
| 22:55 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> ask them to make a neo jump. if they can do it they are definetely not using a mobile client ;D |
| 22:56 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> im not asking about that. im asking if there is a way to grab needed information to finish this detection. if not then I have to scrap it |
| 22:57 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > i'm working on autodig and autoplace detection, but it appears that mobile users also cannot return LBM or RBM control inputs @/g/ they can get around that easily by sending fake inputs to the server |
| 22:59 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> > eeerungur, yes the whole of git.minetest.land vanished and wuzzy too wuzzy commented on some forum posts today |
| 22:59 |
eeerungur |
MTDiscord: did he say why? |
| 23:00 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> didn't comment on mineclone of the git host going down at all |
| 23:00 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> *mineclone2 |
| 23:00 |
eeerungur |
oh |
| 23:01 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> just checked |
| 23:02 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&p=381404#p381404 |
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erlehmann |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25401 |
| 23:03 |
erlehmann |
MTDiscord, what's a neo jump? |
| 23:03 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> > @/g/ they can get around that easily by sending fake inputs to the server thanks for giving me not helpful information. can anyone else answer my question? |
| 23:04 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> it's a simple yes or no question |
| 23:04 |
erlehmann |
> Yes, Mesehub, the website on which MCL2 is hosted, is down. This is a big problem for development right now. The bugtracker is also down. I have contacted texmex, the host of Mesehub. I have not heard back from them yet. |
| 23:04 |
erlehmann |
so wuzzy exists |
| 23:04 |
MTDiscord |
<Jonathon> that is what i told you |
| 23:10 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > it's a simple yes or no question @/g/ not worth it |
| 23:10 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> so no |
| 23:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Genshin> scrapping it then. |
| 23:11 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> > MTDiscord, what's a neo jump? @erlehmann IRC#0000 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSyFgT12P6o |
| 23:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> >reee github MS reeee |
| 23:11 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> >community hoster of repo goes MIA |
| 23:12 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> another has fallen |
| 23:12 |
MTDiscord |
<Jordach> who's feeling the sadness of their mistake |
| 23:24 |
erlehmann |
the mistake was to not have the issues decentralized in the git repo |
| 23:25 |
dzho |
ugh. it's like my left-mouse is stuck on |
| 23:25 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> two bots talking to each other: the apocalypse |
| 23:26 |
dzho |
so it's digging continually. If I left-click, it stops until I move at all and then it just starts again |
| 23:26 |
dzho |
I have to scroll quickly to something that doesn't do much damage so I don't trash my whole base. |
| 23:26 |
dzho |
then I just bail. |
| 23:29 |
erlehmann |
dzho, click the button |
| 23:29 |
erlehmann |
that is stuck |
| 23:29 |
dzho |
I did. |
| 23:30 |
dzho |
> If I left-click, it stops until I move at all and then it just starts again |
| 23:30 |
dzho |
I've gone through and used 'xinput -disable ##' to disable each input device in turn to further rule out hardware problems on each of them. |
| 23:31 |
dzho |
(this is on a thinpad so I have a touch pad and a pointing stick with buttons, a touch screen, and I have an external logitech trackball,) |
| 23:31 |
dzho |
this is Ubuntu 18.04 with their snap, 5.3.0 |
| 23:33 |
dzho |
erlehmann: thanks for the suggestion, though |
| 23:33 |
erlehmann |
dzho, ok so one thing |
| 23:34 |
erlehmann |
dzho, if you use X11, what does xev say? |
| 23:34 |
erlehmann |
execute xev in a terminal |
| 23:34 |
erlehmann |
it should show exactly what X11 event is sent |
| 23:34 |
erlehmann |
when you hover the mouse over the xev window |
| 23:34 |
erlehmann |
dzho, tried that already? |
| 23:35 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> my favorite thing about mineclone2 is the dupe glitches |
| 23:36 |
dzho |
erlehmann: yes |
| 23:36 |
dzho |
oh wait, sorry. |
| 23:36 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> lol |
| 23:37 |
aldum |
duping items by bugs, or what? |
| 23:38 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> there are so many bugs |
| 23:38 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> firstly, lets talk about the potion stands |
| 23:39 |
erlehmann |
MTDiscord, please explaine dupe bug |
| 23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> so you know sticky pistons right? |
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| 23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> so the idea is you put the thing you want to dupe in the potion stand |
| 23:39 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> then you push the potion stand with a piston |
| 23:40 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> and it drops the item you put in the stand |
| 23:40 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> but the item is still in the stand |
| 23:40 |
wsor4035 |
MTDiscord is a place the name of the person is in the <> erlehmann |
| 23:40 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> right |
| 23:40 |
dzho |
erlehmann: yeah, there's nothing being sent when I just hover. The motion events show for the pointer moving into the window, and then ... it just sits on that last event |
| 23:40 |
MTDiscord |
<oneplustwo> so now you have two copies of the same item |
| 23:41 |
dzho |
so long as I do not move the pointer, there is no further x event shown. |
| 23:42 |
dzho |
(eventually I move it out again to kill the xev window and those motions show) |
| 23:42 |
erlehmann |
wsor4035, as i see it, MTDiscord seems to be a multiple personality user |
| 23:42 |
erlehmann |
wsor4035, so i see it might be considered insensitive to reply to a multiple as i would reply to a singleton |
| 23:42 |
erlehmann |
i will use their personalities names |
| 23:43 |
erlehmann |
dzho, weeeeird |
| 23:43 |
dzho |
I know, right |
| 23:43 |
erlehmann |
dzho, if you move the pointer you get more clicks or not? |
| 23:43 |
dzho |
when the point is in the xev window and I move it I get more motion events |
| 23:44 |
dzho |
s/point/pointer/ |
| 23:44 |
erlehmann |
but no clicks i guess |
| 23:45 |
dzho |
well, if I click I get ButtonPress and ButtonRelease as expected. everything "just works" normally everywhere else |
| 23:45 |
dzho |
everywhere but in minetest |
| 23:46 |
dzho |
for instance I can drag to highlight text in gnome-terminal, I can click to do things in a browser, etc |
| 23:48 |
dzho |
erlehmann: thanks for trying to troubleshoot this with me, particularly for the suggestion to try xev. I'll see what sort of behavior I get on my other machine later. I'm going to drop it for now. |
| 23:53 |
erlehmann |
dzho, hth |
