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sfan5, coal lives again! https://i.imgur.com/K3NIGgC.png |
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I had translated a bunch of strings (31%) to hindi in the weblate site in april and i thought it will be added automatically. But i just built 5.3-dev and it isnt included. Do i need to submit it somewhere? (sorry I am new to this) |
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!tell oil_boi does it set mobs on fire if you hit them? :D |
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sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever |
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Hello, Calinou. I am a volunteer editor on Wikimedia Commons. I wanted to know what is the license of this file: https://wiki.minetest.net/File:C55-2.jpg |
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acagastya |
Is it under a free Creative Commons license? |
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frabbit |
some forum mod here? i cant register, it gave me "The solution you provided was incorrect" and now additional to that: "You have exceeded the maximum number of registration attempts for this session. Please try again later." |
| 15:34 |
frabbit |
my choosen username isnt in use |
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frabbit |
ive checked that |
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sfan5 |
this might be disappointing but have you tried just waiting some time? |
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sfan5 |
alternatively if you have the ability to reset your router to get a new IP from your ISP that probably works too |
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frabbit |
waiting? |
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frabbit |
yeah tahts 4 sure, but why did i get that first message? |
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frabbit |
before i got the second? |
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frabbit |
"The solution you provided was incorrect" |
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frabbit |
there where no incorrect fields left |
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sfan5 |
I have no idea |
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frabbit |
i first tried to bash against github in github field, but i cleared that field and the message was still there after hitting submit |
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sfan5 |
"solution" should refer to a text captcha |
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frabbit |
wtf?! so i need google! |
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sfan5 |
? |
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frabbit |
ive saw that crap in umatrix |
| 15:38 |
sfan5 |
not google's captcha |
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frabbit |
why they do implementing google? |
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sfan5 |
something like "who is the creator of minetest?" and then you have a field to enter an answer |
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sfan5 |
at least that's how it looked last time I checked |
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frabbit |
nah cant see anything like that and minetest.net domain stuff is all allowed |
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frabbit |
but i block google |
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sfan5 |
okay visiting the site now shows a recaptcha |
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frabbit |
and i wont unblock it... |
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frabbit |
from where? |
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sfan5 |
recaptcha is the name of google's solution |
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frabbit |
thats silly |
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Taoki |
https://i.imgur.com/1qs4o8d.png Anyone know what I must change in my mapgen settings to avoid hard lines like this with Mapgen v7? Seems like some bugs are still in there. |
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frabbit |
there are free and easy solutions for that |
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frabbit |
without google |
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sfan5 |
Taoki: this looks like changing mapgen settings (e.g. seed) between world loads |
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Taoki |
Huh, that's odd. It happens while explore a new area in a single session too. |
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Taoki |
And I do use "seed = params.seed" in minetest.register_on_mapgen_init |
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Taoki |
Yeah actually it seems to happen whenever I reload the world... weird. |
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Taoki |
https://pastebin.com/FZgPXCwC Does anything appear wrong with this? |
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sfan5 |
maybe just comment out the seed line? |
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Taoki |
Thanks, seems to be working. |
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Taoki |
Seems to have worked for now, thanks. |
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Taoki |
Picking up a game I started making 4 years ago, was still in early stages. Forgot I actually created a slow three growth algorithm :) |
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frabbit |
sfan5: i saw that u are moderator too at forums, can u please activate my account? |
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frabbit |
i dont want to use that google shit |
| 16:55 |
sfan5 |
I don't see an account with a name similar to yours |
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Krock |
I don't think moderators can do that |
| 16:55 |
Krock |
...or? |
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frabbit |
sfan5: i cant get over that submit process |
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frabbit |
thats why |
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frabbit |
i need to solve that google captcha |
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frabbit |
but i wont |
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sfan5 |
well if your account doesn't make it into the database then I also can't activate it |
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Krock |
there's also Tor, which could be interesting to you as well |
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frabbit |
sfan5: thats bad... please remove this google shit, there are other ways to prevent bots from register. like this one devuan is doing for example: https://dev1galaxy.org/register.php |
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frabbit |
Krock: how do tor avoiding usig google? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] v-rob -> minetest/minetest: Document deprecation of *_hovered and *_pressed styles (#10092) f7c7899 https://git.io/JfxpE (2020-06-23T16:59:02Z) |
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frabbit |
Krock: also u need to enable js, googles js, tor is not safe with js (and maybe it isnt even without...) |
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frabbit |
with js ur ip can be leaked also when u using tor |
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sfan5 |
frabbit: deciding which captcha runs on the forum isn't my responsibility, I don't admin it |
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frabbit |
and even if all that were not the fact: i dont support google in any way |
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frabbit |
sfan5: ok |
| 17:02 |
frabbit |
so i will need to write celereon55 |
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frabbit |
*sigh* |
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frabbit |
celeron55: ot can u do something when i contact u here? =) |
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frabbit |
that would avoid me from mailing u |
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celeron55 |
i don't have time or money for playing around with bots and google does it efficiently and for free so it's an obvious choice |
| 17:11 |
celeron55 |
i'll be waiting for your written offer of maintaining an effective non-google captcha for me for the next 10 years |
| 17:12 |
celeron55 |
anyway i can create you an account if you need it |
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rubenwardy |
perhaps there could be a message to contact someone if google is not an option? |
| 17:14 |
celeron55 |
altough, i don't really have any special way of creating an account, i'll be just filling the registration form and captcha for you |
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celeron55 |
so you might just as well pick anyone you trust |
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frabbit |
celeron55: doesnt make any sense... then i could do it by myself |
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frabbit |
ceralso i suggests one possible way without google |
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frabbit |
19:00 < frabbit> sfan5: thats bad... please remove this google shit, there are other ways to prevent bots from register. like this one devuan is doing for example: https://dev1galaxy.org/register.php |
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celeron55 |
i have had questions like that in the registration form before and they don't help in the long term |
| 17:34 |
celeron55 |
you'd have to be changing them all the time |
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frabbit |
changing what? |
| 17:34 |
celeron55 |
and then some people don't get them and ask for the answers |
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celeron55 |
and it's just not good |
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celeron55 |
the questions |
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frabbit |
lol u can use simple question like "grass is .....?" |
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Krock |
when I signed up, I think the question was about MESE |
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celeron55 |
this is a big forum, some advertisers seem to be targeting it seriously enough to figure out questions like that |
| 17:35 |
celeron55 |
or spammers |
| 17:35 |
celeron55 |
whatever you like to call them |
| 17:36 |
frabbit |
no u can save several questions and only one of they will appear randomly on every single registration |
| 17:36 |
sfan5 |
we've had that before and multiple russian spam posts got through every week |
| 17:36 |
celeron55 |
i hate google too, but i still use the captcha; i think that should tell you a lot |
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celeron55 |
(altough it's no the company i hate the most, that spot goes to facebook probably) |
| 17:37 |
celeron55 |
not* |
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frabbit |
sfan5: sounds more like u havent enough questions and bad blacklists for ips domains whatever.. dev1 doesnt have these problems and i can guarantee u that there are many people and institutions that wnat to see devuan dieing... |
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frabbit |
celeron55: ok but there are alternatives for these kind of captchas then |
| 17:38 |
frabbit |
ive once read sopmething about that |
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celeron55 |
"Total number of posts: 21,369" ok checked... not a big forum |
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frabbit |
will search my bookmarks and notes |
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frabbit |
celeron55: devuan? |
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frabbit |
doesnt matter how much post tehre are... |
| 17:39 |
sfan5 |
e.g. cloudflare uses https://www.hcaptcha.com/ |
| 17:39 |
frabbit |
the devuan project is a target of attacks since it was created... |
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frabbit |
theres still a big war ou there |
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frabbit |
*out |
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celeron55 |
i guess hcaptcha could work |
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celeron55 |
can frabbit review it and see if it passes his captcha review process? |
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rubenwardy |
lol, minetest has 16x as many posts |
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rubenwardy |
16.6 |
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rubenwardy |
doesn't make that small though |
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frabbit |
rubenwardy: what are u talking about posts? i dont get it... o_0 |
| 17:43 |
frabbit |
also interesting article about captcha stuff: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18205610/google-captcha-ai-robot-human-difficult-artificial-intelligence |
| 17:43 |
Krock |
!c 354796 / 21369 |
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MinetestBot |
16.603303851373486 |
| 17:45 |
Krock |
though, that might be a counter value, rather than row count |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
implying that deleted posts are counted? |
| 17:46 |
Krock |
difference are the removed posts |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
in which case, spam attacks would be |
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rubenwardy |
!c 100 * 6128 / 354796 |
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MinetestBot |
1.7271897090158852 |
| 17:46 |
rubenwardy |
I have 1.73% of all posts |
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rubenwardy |
used to be higher :'( |
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Krock |
!c 1000 * 4522 / 354796 |
| 17:47 |
MinetestBot |
12.745352258762782 |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
I have 12.7%° of all posts |
| 17:47 |
rubenwardy |
extra zero there |
| 17:47 |
frabbit |
and sorry but im tired of discussion about using google or whatever shitty companys stuff, if a webpage forces me to allow these "services" then its a sign to me that this webpage dont want me as a member. np for me, but in this case it hurts, cause i wanted to contact some modders and reporting some bugs |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
> per mille |
| 17:47 |
Krock |
makes the number look larger :3 |
| 17:48 |
Krock |
frabbit: okay that's fine |
| 17:48 |
Krock |
you can still report bugs using email or github |
| 17:48 |
rubenwardy |
frabbit: and thanks for raising the issue |
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[git] MoNTE48 -> minetest/minetest: Android: fix maxAspectRatio (should be float) (#10080) 646af2e https://git.io/JfpeJ (2020-06-23T18:00:34Z) |
| 18:04 |
celeron55 |
it's interesting that while many people are flocking into discord, still people like frabbit exist |
| 18:04 |
rubenwardy |
takes all types |
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frabbit |
Krock: reporting via mail isnt possible when the person who creates a mod doesnt leave an email somewhere, also it isnt desired often to report bugs or make feature requests that way when tehres a forum thread for that... and github.. well thats a thing i couldnt understand at all, why mt project is still hosting on a page that is owned by micro$oft, another one from the GAFAM and in this special case |
| 18:33 |
frabbit |
also the developer of minecraft... thats totally weird... |
| 18:33 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: was that satire? =( |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
what's satire? |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
rubenwardy: basically long sarcastic talks, but less intense and still somehow provocative |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 18:35 |
rubenwardy |
I meant: what was satire, not what is satire |
| 18:35 |
frabbit |
celeron55: espacially the so called digital natives does use discord, but these young people arent digital natives, the are digital puppets, they only know colorful buttons and stuff and even some programming languages prevent the students of that lang. to learn something deeper. if it will stay that way, computing will be only available for a small elite, while the rest just consuming their stuff like |
| 18:35 |
frabbit |
zombies... |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
what's is ambiguous |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
*what's ambiguous |
| 18:36 |
Ingar |
frabbit: it's all just a concequence of how corps programmed society the generations before |
| 18:36 |
frabbit |
Ingar: right |
| 18:36 |
frabbit |
but they still do |
| 18:36 |
Ingar |
you old ? |
| 18:36 |
frabbit |
the less people know about whatever, the easier it is to control these people, thats an old digusting law... |
| 18:37 |
frabbit |
Ingar: hmm.. depends xD |
| 18:37 |
rubenwardy |
Governments definitely use distractions to keep people from the real issues, but I don't think it extends as far as "colorful buttons and stuff" |
| 18:37 |
frabbit |
i thing over 30 is old (where my youth has gone?) |
| 18:37 |
frabbit |
*think |
| 18:37 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: what do u mean |
| 18:38 |
frabbit |
these things hiding the commands |
| 18:38 |
Ingar |
frabbit: but here we are, chatting on a # dedicated to escapism ;) |
| 18:39 |
frabbit |
and it isnt needed to learn computing with buttons first, u can always start with terminal stuff |
| 18:39 |
frabbit |
Ingar: with # u mean channel? |
| 18:39 |
Ingar |
frabbit: I do, I'm old |
| 18:39 |
Ingar |
@ is ops |
| 18:40 |
rubenwardy |
oh right, you're talking literally about software rather than a conspiracy |
| 18:40 |
frabbit |
ive seen that adorable girl whos starting learn computing on a terminal: https://invidio.us/watch?v=WTb2EAxLyF0 |
| 18:40 |
frabbit |
Ingar: ok =) im about a year at irc now |
| 18:40 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: conspiracy? |
| 18:40 |
frabbit |
thats for idiots |
| 18:41 |
Ingar |
frabbit: now you made me realize I've been on IRC for 25 years. I need a bottle. or in this particular instance, dinner. ..laters :) |
| 18:41 |
frabbit |
ut how to earn alot of money? by increasing influence and with that comes power too... so its a circle of desaster that could be find in any big corp... |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
I've been on IRC for 8 years |
| 18:42 |
frabbit |
Ingar: have a nice dinner then =) |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
roughly 7 years... still a newbie :) |
| 18:42 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: =) if i have know that this cool thing exists earlier, i would be here since several years too |
| 18:43 |
rubenwardy |
Ingar: you've been on IRC for longer than I've been alive |
| 18:43 |
celeron55 |
i've been on IRC for about 18 years, and to brighten up frabbit's day, MT was first published on IRC just under 10 years ago and still has an IRC presence |
| 18:44 |
Fulgen |
IRC is nice. |
| 18:44 |
celeron55 |
so don't worry we're here to stay |
| 18:45 |
celeron55 |
it's people like frabbit who will understand why, as the discord folk will never get it |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
I really like IRC, it's beautifully simple |
| 18:46 |
celeron55 |
it's what it says on the lid |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
pain in terms of user-experience, but that's maybe a benefit |
| 18:46 |
Krock |
direct image upload would be nice sometimes,though |
| 18:46 |
rubenwardy |
yeah, that's one pain |
| 18:47 |
Fulgen |
indeed |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
I have a python script to upload images to my short web domain for that |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
rwdy.uk |
| 18:47 |
Krock |
IRC clients can take care of that, though. |
| 18:47 |
frabbit |
celeron55: lol on irc? =D nice |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
using SCP |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
https://gitlab.com/rubenwardy/rubenimageupload |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
Yeah, it's possible for an IRC client to have support for uploading to something like imgur |
| 18:48 |
frabbit |
celeron55: so next release is coming as irce download, peer-to-peer? |
| 18:48 |
frabbit |
;) |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
rubenwardy: well, a bash script might work just as well in .local/bin/ |
| 18:48 |
celeron55 |
well probably not, but feel free to mirror it |
| 18:48 |
rubenwardy |
sure |
| 18:48 |
rubenwardy |
I wasn't as experienced with bash when I wrote that |
| 18:48 |
frabbit |
yeah i will on notabug |
| 18:48 |
rubenwardy |
that is also installed in .local/bin |
| 18:48 |
frabbit |
really need to fill my repos there |
| 18:49 |
celeron55 |
MT hasn't always been on github, i first hosted it on bitbucket |
| 18:49 |
frabbit |
btw. why isnt mt changing to notabug.org? |
| 18:49 |
celeron55 |
and it hasn't always used git, it originally used mercurial |
| 18:50 |
frabbit |
is it missing any features the development needs? |
| 18:50 |
celeron55 |
these things will change when needed, and at the moment it's not needed |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
the only platform that stayed as-is is sourceforge |
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| 18:50 |
celeron55 |
i don't fear the name microsoft, i fear the shitty products they do |
| 18:50 |
celeron55 |
so when github turns shitty, MT will move |
| 18:50 |
celeron55 |
not before |
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rubenwardy |
I thought it was on source forge? |
| 18:51 |
rubenwardy |
I've moved to GitLab as of a few months |
| 18:51 |
frabbit |
celeron55: hmm ok, but every single project makes that site bigger, even after alot of great projects switched to gitlab after m$ take the place |
| 18:51 |
rubenwardy |
also, I dislike notabug |
| 18:51 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: why? |
| 18:51 |
rubenwardy |
they have a broken CSS theme |
| 18:51 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: o_0 |
| 18:51 |
rubenwardy |
and I don't especially trust such a small community to host our code official |
| 18:52 |
rubenwardy |
wait, are you involved with it / freepost? |
| 18:52 |
frabbit |
err better trust a small community then a big corp... |
| 18:52 |
frabbit |
but maybe thats the spirit of ur generation.... |
| 18:52 |
rubenwardy |
the big corp is more likely to have a backup strategy and less likely to have single people in position of power, being abusive |
| 18:53 |
* frabbit |
can see a dystopic future |
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| 18:53 |
rubenwardy |
you can also trust the big corp to be consistent - looking for profit |
| 18:53 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: backup ur stuff on ur own |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
backup scripts are nice. they can be self-containing. |
| 18:54 |
celeron55 |
frabbit: we are not like some projects that don't have their own domain or anything to fall back to in the case github topples over |
| 18:54 |
frabbit |
outsourcing backup to any service no matter if small group of cool people or big corp is a very bad idea |
| 18:54 |
rubenwardy |
that too, I'd prefer self-hosting to a small git host |
| 18:54 |
celeron55 |
if our only web presence was github.com then yes, that's a problem |
| 18:54 |
rubenwardy |
it's a matter of trust |
| 18:54 |
frabbit |
celeron55: i agree |
| 18:54 |
celeron55 |
but we have minetest.net which can point to anywhere for source hosting and issues |
| 18:55 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: well i dont trust m$ and there are a huge bunch of reasons for that... |
| 18:55 |
celeron55 |
currently it's github, but given github isn't viable tomorrow, tomorrow it's something else |
| 18:55 |
frabbit |
celeron55: ok =) |
| 18:55 |
frabbit |
so... whats velocity then hahaha xD |
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| 18:56 |
frabbit |
thers a bug in whinny mod with it |
| 18:56 |
frabbit |
its some kind of move entitys or something? |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
Well, I've moved to GitLab because of Microsoft and other things. I think that the loss of contributors like pgimeno is justification to move |
| 19:01 |
rubenwardy |
I with GitLab would improve their UI though |
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FeXoR |
(Uh, that IRC SCP imageupload is nice. Thanks for the tip ;) |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
yw |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
I was overthinking image upload programs until someone suggested SCP |
| 19:06 |
rubenwardy |
and a web server |
| 19:09 |
FeXoR |
Krock: Sourceforge has changed dramatically! Some years back one could just download the stuff without any "We value your privacy" exclamations and even use direct download links. That's all hidden. And in between there where installers of other software implanted in the installers of abandoned projects by sourceforge itself. That's why 0 A.D. hosts it's own repo now and many others mofed away, too ;) |
| 19:11 |
rubenwardy |
sourceforge is one consideration that makes me about a library or program |
| 19:11 |
rubenwardy |
they're typically outdated and suck |
| 19:11 |
* rubenwardy |
looks at Irrlicht |
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FeXoR |
(And since sourceforge wasn't exactly small when their business model changed I doubt the "Large companies are stable" at least in a way predictable by the projects :D But, yes, I guess one can trust them to want to make money ... and that to not have the same goal as the projects :p |
| 19:18 |
frabbit |
hmm.. Sparky isnt here on irc, also theres no mail: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11650 |
| 19:19 |
frabbit |
and whinny mod was uloaded to forum site only, so no repo site too |
| 19:20 |
rubenwardy |
I've sent him a message, not sure if he'll see it |
| 19:21 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: thats very kind of u, but not a long term solution... =( |
| 19:22 |
frabbit |
btw. because minetest.net is using google this here is not complete: https://forum.minetest.net/ucp.php?mode=privacy |
| 19:23 |
frabbit |
please update this then |
| 19:26 |
frabbit |
i will register now... man that all sucks... but theres someone who will be very happy when the horses coming back to my server and i will be too |
| 19:27 |
* frabbit |
is thinking if it wouldnt be better to be a blackhat taht attacks GAFAM with other bh... |
| 19:30 |
frabbit |
i really wnat alphabet to die... |
| 19:30 |
frabbit |
*want |
| 19:31 |
Krock |
FeXoR: well, from what I can see, it still sucks |
| 19:32 |
FeXoR |
Sourceforge? Or 0 A.D.? Or SVN? :D |
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| 19:33 |
Krock |
FeXoR: sourceforge and also a bit of SVN |
| 19:34 |
frabbit |
sourceforge? that site that has delivered adware to u once, when downloading stuff? |
| 19:34 |
* FeXoR |
thinks git sucks for art or other binaries |
| 19:34 |
frabbit |
and manipulating downloads... and.... |
| 19:34 |
FeXoR |
Yep, that sourceforge ;) |
| 19:35 |
frabbit |
awesome... not |
| 19:43 |
Calinou |
Git works ok for art if you never change it :P |
| 19:43 |
Calinou |
(or if it's small enough not to be a problem, which is mostly the case in Minetest) |
| 19:44 |
Calinou |
FeXoR: direct download links still exist on SourceForge, but they'll only be obeyed if your user agent is something like "curl" |
| 19:44 |
Calinou |
otherwise, it will switch to the non-direct download page |
| 19:46 |
FeXoR |
Yea, I remember having fiddled arround a but to get it to work :p |
| 19:46 |
FeXoR |
*bit |
| 19:55 |
frabbit |
what about: https://savannah.gnu.org/ |
| 19:56 |
frabbit |
this is how a repo can look like there: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/adonthell |
| 19:57 |
frabbit |
pretty clean and also quick to use |
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| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
we need pull requests and a good issues tracker |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
the latter can be done with bugzilla, and the former with some other kind of review software |
| 19:59 |
rubenwardy |
but being integrated into the git host would be good |
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frabbit |
rubenwardy: bugtracker is here: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=adonthell |
| 20:02 |
gh00p |
What's the best way to change clothing/skins? I see a wardrobe mod and a clothing mod mentioned in forums from 2005, but is there something else? |
| 20:02 |
rubenwardy |
lol, 2005 |
| 20:02 |
rubenwardy |
time travelling modders |
| 20:03 |
frabbit |
BackToTheFuture? =D |
| 20:03 |
rubenwardy |
I'm not sure there are any modern ones |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
!mod skindb |
| 20:03 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: fetching all skins from skin db [skindb] by addi - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9098 - https://bitbucket.org/kingarthursteam/skindb |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
not that skindb |
| 20:03 |
frabbit |
h00p use simple skins from tenplus1 |
| 20:03 |
Krock |
gh00p: https://krock-works.uk.to/minetest/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=skins |
| 20:03 |
frabbit |
gh00p: https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/simple_skins |
| 20:04 |
Krock |
https://content.minetest.net/packages/?q=skins |
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| 20:04 |
frabbit |
also i like PilzAdams simple skin mod, but with that u cant change skins ingame |
| 20:05 |
frabbit |
in both mods theres a folder where u can simple put skins into |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
in 5.3.0, you'll be able to change skins at run time |
| 20:05 |
rubenwardy |
like - add skins |
| 20:05 |
frabbit |
with PilzAdams mod u can chain them to a specific playername |
| 20:06 |
rubenwardy |
tenplus1's has a dialog where you select an existing skin |
| 20:06 |
frabbit |
gh00p: mod from PilzAdam -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3587 |
| 20:07 |
frabbit |
ive tested both and both are working with mt 5.2.0 |
| 20:10 |
acagastya |
Hi, it is me agains: a volunteer editor on Wikimedia project. celeron55, can you please clarify one thing about your interview with (French) Wikinews editor AirSThib on IRC? |
| 20:10 |
celeron55 |
hi, no problem |
| 20:11 |
gh00p |
Krock, frabbit: thanks, I'll do some reading! |
| 20:12 |
acagastya |
Since it is potentially privacy violating information, is it okay if I ask in a PM, celeron55? |
| 20:12 |
celeron55 |
PM is fine |
| 20:12 |
acagastya |
Thank you. |
| 20:12 |
gh00p |
Oh, Krock is the bot. Thanks, frabbit! :) |
| 20:12 |
frabbit |
gh00p: yw =) |
| 20:13 |
frabbit |
gh00p: no, Krock is not a bot xD |
| 20:13 |
rubenwardy |
I've never seen him solve a capture |
| 20:13 |
rubenwardy |
*captcha |
| 20:13 |
frabbit |
lol |
| 20:13 |
rubenwardy |
I've met him in real life, but I didn't see him solve a capture |
| 20:13 |
rubenwardy |
could be an Android |
| 20:14 |
rubenwardy |
err -A+a |
| 20:14 |
frabbit |
xD |
| 20:23 |
celeron55 |
your meeting-in-life protocol should include solving a captcha |
| 20:23 |
celeron55 |
should add it to the checklist |
| 20:23 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
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* FeXoR |
envied Andonthell to only have one bug :p |
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rubenwardy |
\o/ |
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| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
I'm still dreaming for MeseCon |
| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
the minetest convention |
| 20:28 |
SoylentCow |
that would be fin |
| 20:28 |
rubenwardy |
If celeron55 refuses to come, I'll have to hire kidnappers |
| 20:28 |
SoylentCow |
lol, fun |
| 20:29 |
rubenwardy |
joking |
| 20:30 |
FeXoR |
frabbit: I can't find a web page to browse through the code on Savannah. Could you give me a hint? :) |
| 20:30 |
FeXoR |
(The Andonthell Savannah page I mean) |
| 20:35 |
celeron55 |
rubenwardy: obviously in finland, right? |
| 20:36 |
rubenwardy |
how big is your back yard? |
| 20:36 |
celeron55 |
pretty big, thousands of square meters |
| 20:36 |
rubenwardy |
do you live in the middle of no where? |
| 20:36 |
celeron55 |
yes, right there |
| 20:37 |
rubenwardy |
I wouldn't be against finland, wondering about connectivity and organisation |
| 20:37 |
frabbit |
FeXoR: maybe this: https://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/adonthell.git |
| 20:38 |
rubenwardy |
there's a direct flight from bristol to helinski |
| 20:40 |
celeron55 |
the closest to me you can get on railway or bus from helsinki is about 40km away |
| 20:40 |
celeron55 |
so say hello to your chartered bus driver, celeron55 |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 20:41 |
frabbit |
lol |
| 20:41 |
celeron55 |
i have an MPV that can fit 8 that i'm planning to convert to electric but before that it could work fine |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
the convention would need to be done very close to a city, or some connected place |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
I was thinking france or germany, as it's central europe and there are quite a few core devs in that region |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
I was talking to CERN about doing it there, they have connections. Geneva is super expensive though, I wouldn't want to pay for accomodation there |
| 20:41 |
rubenwardy |
this is a bad time to be talking about conventions and international travel :D |
| 20:42 |
frabbit |
rubenwardy: im sure next year there will be a vaccine |
| 20:44 |
celeron55 |
i feel it would feel like a funeral though, as i'm not developing anymore |
| 20:44 |
rubenwardy |
lol |
| 20:45 |
rubenwardy |
doesn't matter, I wager that you are still the last person to touch the majority of code |
| 20:45 |
rubenwardy |
let alone the author of the majority of code |
| 20:45 |
frabbit |
later people =) |
| 20:45 |
rubenwardy |
plus, "not developing anymore" has an easy fix :) |
| 20:51 |
celeron55 |
i guess germany could work, i would probably include it in an europe road trip i'd do |
| 20:51 |
celeron55 |
planning one anyway at some point |
| 20:54 |
celeron55 |
was thinking this summer but have to see about the restrictions |
| 20:54 |
rubenwardy |
would be too soon for a mesecon imo |
| 20:54 |
rubenwardy |
a road trip though, sure |
| 20:55 |
celeron55 |
and the real twist on the road trip, of course, is doing it with a DIY electric conversion vehicle |
| 20:55 |
rubenwardy |
:O |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
if you break down in germany, then at least there's good beer |
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| 20:56 |
celeron55 |
well, i don't drink alcohol |
| 20:56 |
rubenwardy |
fair |
| 20:59 |
celeron55 |
and you pretty much can't have fun with me nowadays unless it involves wrenches, rust and high voltage |
| 21:01 |
celeron55 |
so, i might as well just road trip through all the core devs front doors, booping each one on the nose before continuing |
| 21:02 |
rubenwardy |
loool |
| 21:02 |
rubenwardy |
and then run off into the distance, leaving them wondering who you are and/or how you got their address |
| 21:03 |
celeron55 |
i once hand painted wooden cubes with minetest themed pictures |
| 21:03 |
celeron55 |
i still have them somewhere |
| 21:03 |
celeron55 |
that's going to be the hottest stuff |
| 21:03 |
rubenwardy |
Jeija has IRL mesecon blocks |
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rubenwardy |
He's an electronic engineer |
| 21:04 |
celeron55 |
anyway, MT's 10 year anniversary is in october this year |
| 21:05 |
rubenwardy |
:O |
| 21:06 |
eerungur |
i should 3d print some minetest mobs. |
| 21:06 |
celeron55 |
i'm pretty sure i made the first .zip on 2010-10-10 |
| 21:06 |
celeron55 |
that's a good date to release a project, easy to remember |
| 21:06 |
eerungur |
where could i get the 3d model files from? |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
minetest doesn't have mobs |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
the old 0.3 mobs are 2D |
| 21:07 |
Corey[m]1 |
I.. don't think minetest has mobs |
| 21:07 |
Corey[m]1 |
Damn rubenwardy beat me to it |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
the most popular mob mod is mobs redo |
| 21:07 |
rubenwardy |
!mod mobs |
| 21:07 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Mobs Redo [mobs] by TenPlus1 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 - https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_redo |
| 21:08 |
rubenwardy |
The Minetest logo could be a cool 3d print |
| 21:08 |
eerungur |
rubenwardy: good idea. |
| 21:08 |
rubenwardy |
fun fact: it's not possible to build the logo to scale in Minetest accurately |
| 21:08 |
rubenwardy |
well, you could make it massive |
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eth01 |
interesting project folks |
| 21:40 |
* eth01 |
has nothing valuable to add apart from it looks interesting :p |
| 21:41 |
rubenwardy |
lol thanks |
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eth01 |
My project would be happy to donate some hosting though for your project if you would like ...we run an open source platform and offer hosting to open source projects for free. |
| 21:51 |
rubenwardy |
celeron55 would be the person to talk to for that |
| 21:53 |
eth01 |
coolthx |
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Warr1024 |
"not possible to build the logo to scale" <-- mesh nodes :-D |
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rubenwardy |
cheater |
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Corey[m]1 |
Were there any recent changes to the hypertext element in formspecs? |
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Corey[m]1 |
I just noticed that some of my old formspecs are jumbled unto a single line, they used to be multiple lines |
| 23:23 |
rubenwardy |
I don't think so |
| 23:24 |
rubenwardy |
check LF vs CRLF |
| 23:24 |
Corey[m]1 |
one sec, I even had a comment in my code about the odd old behaviour |
| 23:24 |
rubenwardy |
do note that the hypertext element is experimental, in the future a new line won't be a new line in the element |
| 23:25 |
Corey[m]1 |
hope you don't mind a link drop: https://github.com/IceDragon200/mt-yatm/blob/master/yatm_codex/items/codex.lua#L54-L57 |
| 23:25 |
Corey[m]1 |
primarily my last comment: "But in all honestly it's like the inventory based sizing doesn't even apply to hypertext" |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
what |
| 23:25 |
rubenwardy |
hypertext uses its own line spacing |
| 23:25 |
Corey[m]1 |
Yep, that worked before I pulled the latest |
| 23:26 |
Corey[m]1 |
And where is this line spacing configured? |
| 23:26 |
rubenwardy |
it's not |
| 23:26 |
Corey[m]1 |
or what was the sane default? |
| 23:27 |
Corey[m]1 |
welp, I should have noted, the note under hypertext in the lua_api "* **Note**: This element is currently unstable and subject to change." |
| 23:28 |
Corey[m]1 |
So, expected behaviour I guess P: |
| 23:28 |
rubenwardy |
lol, does your mod require mod security to be disabled? |
| 23:28 |
rubenwardy |
that's a nope from me |
| 23:29 |
rubenwardy |
I suggest making a simpler example and opening an issue |
| 23:29 |
Corey[m]1 |
well it requires being permitted to use some native extensions outside of that, you can view the whole code, compile it yourself and run it, I have no interest in enslaving anyone's computer to mine bitcoins P: |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
hypertext hasn't been changed in 5.3.0 |
| 23:30 |
rubenwardy |
it's the same as in 5.2.0 |
| 23:31 |
Corey[m]1 |
I honestly don't remember what version I was running when it 'worked' as intended |
| 23:31 |
Corey[m]1 |
Since I build from master |
| 23:32 |
Corey[m]1 |
but whatever changed, I think it's new behaviour might be sane again |
