Time Nick Message 00:02 Corey[m]1 Extex: Tried converting the position to a string and setting it in the formspec as the default value of thr field you're trying to send? 06:39 oil_boi sfan5, coal lives again! https://i.imgur.com/K3NIGgC.png 07:50 eyekay49 I had translated a bunch of strings (31%) to hindi in the weblate site in april and i thought it will be added automatically. But i just built 5.3-dev and it isnt included. Do i need to submit it somewhere? (sorry I am new to this) 08:58 sfan5 !tell oil_boi does it set mobs on fire if you hit them? :D 08:58 MinetestBot sfan5: yeah, sure, whatever 15:05 acagastya Hello, Calinou. I am a volunteer editor on Wikimedia Commons. I wanted to know what is the license of this file: https://wiki.minetest.net/File:C55-2.jpg 15:06 acagastya Is it under a free Creative Commons license? 15:34 frabbit some forum mod here? i cant register, it gave me "The solution you provided was incorrect" and now additional to that: "You have exceeded the maximum number of registration attempts for this session. Please try again later." 15:34 frabbit my choosen username isnt in use 15:35 frabbit ive checked that 15:35 sfan5 this might be disappointing but have you tried just waiting some time? 15:35 sfan5 alternatively if you have the ability to reset your router to get a new IP from your ISP that probably works too 15:35 frabbit waiting? 15:36 frabbit yeah tahts 4 sure, but why did i get that first message? 15:36 frabbit before i got the second? 15:36 frabbit "The solution you provided was incorrect" 15:37 frabbit there where no incorrect fields left 15:37 sfan5 I have no idea 15:37 frabbit i first tried to bash against github in github field, but i cleared that field and the message was still there after hitting submit 15:38 sfan5 "solution" should refer to a text captcha 15:38 frabbit wtf?! so i need google! 15:38 sfan5 ? 15:38 frabbit ive saw that crap in umatrix 15:38 sfan5 not google's captcha 15:39 frabbit why they do implementing google? 15:39 sfan5 something like "who is the creator of minetest?" and then you have a field to enter an answer 15:39 sfan5 at least that's how it looked last time I checked 15:39 frabbit nah cant see anything like that and minetest.net domain stuff is all allowed 15:39 frabbit but i block google 15:39 sfan5 okay visiting the site now shows a recaptcha 15:40 frabbit and i wont unblock it... 15:40 frabbit from where? 15:40 sfan5 recaptcha is the name of google's solution 15:40 frabbit thats silly 15:40 Taoki https://i.imgur.com/1qs4o8d.png Anyone know what I must change in my mapgen settings to avoid hard lines like this with Mapgen v7? Seems like some bugs are still in there. 15:40 frabbit there are free and easy solutions for that 15:41 frabbit without google 15:41 sfan5 Taoki: this looks like changing mapgen settings (e.g. seed) between world loads 15:42 Taoki Huh, that's odd. It happens while explore a new area in a single session too. 15:42 Taoki And I do use "seed = params.seed" in minetest.register_on_mapgen_init 15:53 Taoki Yeah actually it seems to happen whenever I reload the world... weird. 15:54 Taoki https://pastebin.com/FZgPXCwC Does anything appear wrong with this? 15:56 sfan5 maybe just comment out the seed line? 16:08 Taoki Thanks, seems to be working. 16:09 Taoki Seems to have worked for now, thanks. 16:10 Taoki Picking up a game I started making 4 years ago, was still in early stages. Forgot I actually created a slow three growth algorithm :) 16:53 frabbit sfan5: i saw that u are moderator too at forums, can u please activate my account? 16:54 frabbit i dont want to use that google shit 16:55 sfan5 I don't see an account with a name similar to yours 16:55 Krock I don't think moderators can do that 16:55 Krock ...or? 16:56 frabbit sfan5: i cant get over that submit process 16:56 frabbit thats why 16:57 frabbit i need to solve that google captcha 16:57 frabbit but i wont 16:57 sfan5 well if your account doesn't make it into the database then I also can't activate it 16:58 Krock there's also Tor, which could be interesting to you as well 17:00 frabbit sfan5: thats bad... please remove this google shit, there are other ways to prevent bots from register. like this one devuan is doing for example: https://dev1galaxy.org/register.php 17:00 frabbit Krock: how do tor avoiding usig google? 17:00 MinetestBot 02[git] 04v-rob -> 03minetest/minetest: Document deprecation of *_hovered and *_pressed styles (#10092) 13f7c7899 https://git.io/JfxpE (152020-06-23T16:59:02Z) 17:01 frabbit Krock: also u need to enable js, googles js, tor is not safe with js (and maybe it isnt even without...) 17:01 frabbit with js ur ip can be leaked also when u using tor 17:02 sfan5 frabbit: deciding which captcha runs on the forum isn't my responsibility, I don't admin it 17:02 frabbit and even if all that were not the fact: i dont support google in any way 17:02 frabbit sfan5: ok 17:02 frabbit so i will need to write celereon55 17:02 frabbit *sigh* 17:03 frabbit celeron55: ot can u do something when i contact u here? =) 17:03 frabbit that would avoid me from mailing u 17:10 celeron55 i don't have time or money for playing around with bots and google does it efficiently and for free so it's an obvious choice 17:11 celeron55 i'll be waiting for your written offer of maintaining an effective non-google captcha for me for the next 10 years 17:12 celeron55 anyway i can create you an account if you need it 17:13 rubenwardy perhaps there could be a message to contact someone if google is not an option? 17:14 celeron55 altough, i don't really have any special way of creating an account, i'll be just filling the registration form and captcha for you 17:14 celeron55 so you might just as well pick anyone you trust 17:33 frabbit celeron55: doesnt make any sense... then i could do it by myself 17:33 frabbit ceralso i suggests one possible way without google 17:34 frabbit 19:00 < frabbit> sfan5: thats bad... please remove this google shit, there are other ways to prevent bots from register. like this one devuan is doing for example: https://dev1galaxy.org/register.php 17:34 celeron55 i have had questions like that in the registration form before and they don't help in the long term 17:34 celeron55 you'd have to be changing them all the time 17:34 frabbit changing what? 17:34 celeron55 and then some people don't get them and ask for the answers 17:35 celeron55 and it's just not good 17:35 celeron55 the questions 17:35 frabbit lol u can use simple question like "grass is .....?" 17:35 Krock when I signed up, I think the question was about MESE 17:35 celeron55 this is a big forum, some advertisers seem to be targeting it seriously enough to figure out questions like that 17:35 celeron55 or spammers 17:35 celeron55 whatever you like to call them 17:36 frabbit no u can save several questions and only one of they will appear randomly on every single registration 17:36 sfan5 we've had that before and multiple russian spam posts got through every week 17:36 celeron55 i hate google too, but i still use the captcha; i think that should tell you a lot 17:37 celeron55 (altough it's no the company i hate the most, that spot goes to facebook probably) 17:37 celeron55 not* 17:37 frabbit sfan5: sounds more like u havent enough questions and bad blacklists for ips domains whatever.. dev1 doesnt have these problems and i can guarantee u that there are many people and institutions that wnat to see devuan dieing... 17:38 frabbit celeron55: ok but there are alternatives for these kind of captchas then 17:38 frabbit ive once read sopmething about that 17:38 celeron55 "Total number of posts: 21,369" ok checked... not a big forum 17:38 frabbit will search my bookmarks and notes 17:38 frabbit celeron55: devuan? 17:39 frabbit doesnt matter how much post tehre are... 17:39 sfan5 e.g. cloudflare uses https://www.hcaptcha.com/ 17:39 frabbit the devuan project is a target of attacks since it was created... 17:39 frabbit theres still a big war ou there 17:40 frabbit *out 17:41 celeron55 i guess hcaptcha could work 17:42 celeron55 can frabbit review it and see if it passes his captcha review process? 17:42 rubenwardy lol, minetest has 16x as many posts 17:42 rubenwardy 16.6 17:42 rubenwardy doesn't make that small though 17:43 frabbit rubenwardy: what are u talking about posts? i dont get it... o_0 17:43 frabbit also interesting article about captcha stuff: https://www.theverge.com/2019/2/1/18205610/google-captcha-ai-robot-human-difficult-artificial-intelligence 17:43 Krock !c 354796 / 21369 17:43 MinetestBot 16.603303851373486 17:45 Krock though, that might be a counter value, rather than row count 17:46 rubenwardy implying that deleted posts are counted? 17:46 Krock difference are the removed posts 17:46 rubenwardy in which case, spam attacks would be 17:46 rubenwardy !c 100 * 6128 / 354796 17:46 MinetestBot 1.7271897090158852 17:46 rubenwardy I have 1.73% of all posts 17:46 rubenwardy used to be higher :'( 17:47 Krock !c 1000 * 4522 / 354796 17:47 MinetestBot 12.745352258762782 17:47 Krock I have 12.7%° of all posts 17:47 rubenwardy extra zero there 17:47 frabbit and sorry but im tired of discussion about using google or whatever shitty companys stuff, if a webpage forces me to allow these "services" then its a sign to me that this webpage dont want me as a member. np for me, but in this case it hurts, cause i wanted to contact some modders and reporting some bugs 17:47 Krock > per mille 17:47 Krock makes the number look larger :3 17:48 Krock frabbit: okay that's fine 17:48 Krock you can still report bugs using email or github 17:48 rubenwardy frabbit: and thanks for raising the issue 18:01 MinetestBot 02[git] 04MoNTE48 -> 03minetest/minetest: Android: fix maxAspectRatio (should be float) (#10080) 13646af2e https://git.io/JfpeJ (152020-06-23T18:00:34Z) 18:04 celeron55 it's interesting that while many people are flocking into discord, still people like frabbit exist 18:04 rubenwardy takes all types 18:32 frabbit Krock: reporting via mail isnt possible when the person who creates a mod doesnt leave an email somewhere, also it isnt desired often to report bugs or make feature requests that way when tehres a forum thread for that... and github.. well thats a thing i couldnt understand at all, why mt project is still hosting on a page that is owned by micro$oft, another one from the GAFAM and in this special case 18:33 frabbit also the developer of minecraft... thats totally weird... 18:33 frabbit rubenwardy: was that satire? =( 18:33 rubenwardy what's satire? 18:34 Krock rubenwardy: basically long sarcastic talks, but less intense and still somehow provocative 18:35 rubenwardy lol 18:35 rubenwardy I meant: what was satire, not what is satire 18:35 frabbit celeron55: espacially the so called digital natives does use discord, but these young people arent digital natives, the are digital puppets, they only know colorful buttons and stuff and even some programming languages prevent the students of that lang. to learn something deeper. if it will stay that way, computing will be only available for a small elite, while the rest just consuming their stuff like 18:35 frabbit zombies... 18:35 Krock what's is ambiguous 18:35 Krock *what's ambiguous 18:36 Ingar frabbit: it's all just a concequence of how corps programmed society the generations before 18:36 frabbit Ingar: right 18:36 frabbit but they still do 18:36 Ingar you old ? 18:36 frabbit the less people know about whatever, the easier it is to control these people, thats an old digusting law... 18:37 frabbit Ingar: hmm.. depends xD 18:37 rubenwardy Governments definitely use distractions to keep people from the real issues, but I don't think it extends as far as "colorful buttons and stuff" 18:37 frabbit i thing over 30 is old (where my youth has gone?) 18:37 frabbit *think 18:37 frabbit rubenwardy: what do u mean 18:38 frabbit these things hiding the commands 18:38 Ingar frabbit: but here we are, chatting on a # dedicated to escapism ;) 18:39 frabbit and it isnt needed to learn computing with buttons first, u can always start with terminal stuff 18:39 frabbit Ingar: with # u mean channel? 18:39 Ingar frabbit: I do, I'm old 18:39 Ingar @ is ops 18:40 rubenwardy oh right, you're talking literally about software rather than a conspiracy 18:40 frabbit ive seen that adorable girl whos starting learn computing on a terminal: https://invidio.us/watch?v=WTb2EAxLyF0 18:40 frabbit Ingar: ok =) im about a year at irc now 18:40 frabbit rubenwardy: conspiracy? 18:40 frabbit thats for idiots 18:41 Ingar frabbit: now you made me realize I've been on IRC for 25 years. I need a bottle. or in this particular instance, dinner. ..laters :) 18:41 frabbit ut how to earn alot of money? by increasing influence and with that comes power too... so its a circle of desaster that could be find in any big corp... 18:41 rubenwardy I've been on IRC for 8 years 18:42 frabbit Ingar: have a nice dinner then =) 18:42 Krock roughly 7 years... still a newbie :) 18:42 frabbit rubenwardy: =) if i have know that this cool thing exists earlier, i would be here since several years too 18:43 rubenwardy Ingar: you've been on IRC for longer than I've been alive 18:43 celeron55 i've been on IRC for about 18 years, and to brighten up frabbit's day, MT was first published on IRC just under 10 years ago and still has an IRC presence 18:44 Fulgen IRC is nice. 18:44 celeron55 so don't worry we're here to stay 18:45 celeron55 it's people like frabbit who will understand why, as the discord folk will never get it 18:46 rubenwardy I really like IRC, it's beautifully simple 18:46 celeron55 it's what it says on the lid 18:46 rubenwardy pain in terms of user-experience, but that's maybe a benefit 18:46 Krock direct image upload would be nice sometimes,though 18:46 rubenwardy yeah, that's one pain 18:47 Fulgen indeed 18:47 rubenwardy I have a python script to upload images to my short web domain for that 18:47 rubenwardy rwdy.uk 18:47 Krock IRC clients can take care of that, though. 18:47 frabbit celeron55: lol on irc? =D nice 18:47 rubenwardy using SCP 18:47 rubenwardy https://gitlab.com/rubenwardy/rubenimageupload 18:47 rubenwardy Yeah, it's possible for an IRC client to have support for uploading to something like imgur 18:48 frabbit celeron55: so next release is coming as irce download, peer-to-peer? 18:48 frabbit ;) 18:48 Krock rubenwardy: well, a bash script might work just as well in .local/bin/ 18:48 celeron55 well probably not, but feel free to mirror it 18:48 rubenwardy sure 18:48 rubenwardy I wasn't as experienced with bash when I wrote that 18:48 frabbit yeah i will on notabug 18:48 rubenwardy that is also installed in .local/bin 18:48 frabbit really need to fill my repos there 18:49 celeron55 MT hasn't always been on github, i first hosted it on bitbucket 18:49 frabbit btw. why isnt mt changing to notabug.org? 18:49 celeron55 and it hasn't always used git, it originally used mercurial 18:50 frabbit is it missing any features the development needs? 18:50 celeron55 these things will change when needed, and at the moment it's not needed 18:50 Krock the only platform that stayed as-is is sourceforge 18:50 celeron55 i don't fear the name microsoft, i fear the shitty products they do 18:50 celeron55 so when github turns shitty, MT will move 18:50 celeron55 not before 18:51 rubenwardy I thought it was on source forge? 18:51 rubenwardy I've moved to GitLab as of a few months 18:51 frabbit celeron55: hmm ok, but every single project makes that site bigger, even after alot of great projects switched to gitlab after m$ take the place 18:51 rubenwardy also, I dislike notabug 18:51 frabbit rubenwardy: why? 18:51 rubenwardy they have a broken CSS theme 18:51 frabbit rubenwardy: o_0 18:51 rubenwardy and I don't especially trust such a small community to host our code official 18:52 rubenwardy wait, are you involved with it / freepost? 18:52 frabbit err better trust a small community then a big corp... 18:52 frabbit but maybe thats the spirit of ur generation.... 18:52 rubenwardy the big corp is more likely to have a backup strategy and less likely to have single people in position of power, being abusive 18:53 * frabbit can see a dystopic future 18:53 rubenwardy you can also trust the big corp to be consistent - looking for profit 18:53 frabbit rubenwardy: backup ur stuff on ur own 18:53 Krock backup scripts are nice. they can be self-containing. 18:54 celeron55 frabbit: we are not like some projects that don't have their own domain or anything to fall back to in the case github topples over 18:54 frabbit outsourcing backup to any service no matter if small group of cool people or big corp is a very bad idea 18:54 rubenwardy that too, I'd prefer self-hosting to a small git host 18:54 celeron55 if our only web presence was github.com then yes, that's a problem 18:54 rubenwardy it's a matter of trust 18:54 frabbit celeron55: i agree 18:54 celeron55 but we have minetest.net which can point to anywhere for source hosting and issues 18:55 frabbit rubenwardy: well i dont trust m$ and there are a huge bunch of reasons for that... 18:55 celeron55 currently it's github, but given github isn't viable tomorrow, tomorrow it's something else 18:55 frabbit celeron55: ok =) 18:55 frabbit so... whats velocity then hahaha xD 18:56 frabbit thers a bug in whinny mod with it 18:56 frabbit its some kind of move entitys or something? 19:01 rubenwardy Well, I've moved to GitLab because of Microsoft and other things. I think that the loss of contributors like pgimeno is justification to move 19:01 rubenwardy I with GitLab would improve their UI though 19:05 FeXoR (Uh, that IRC SCP imageupload is nice. Thanks for the tip ;) 19:06 rubenwardy yw 19:06 rubenwardy I was overthinking image upload programs until someone suggested SCP 19:06 rubenwardy and a web server 19:09 FeXoR Krock: Sourceforge has changed dramatically! Some years back one could just download the stuff without any "We value your privacy" exclamations and even use direct download links. That's all hidden. And in between there where installers of other software implanted in the installers of abandoned projects by sourceforge itself. That's why 0 A.D. hosts it's own repo now and many others mofed away, too ;) 19:11 rubenwardy sourceforge is one consideration that makes me about a library or program 19:11 rubenwardy they're typically outdated and suck 19:11 * rubenwardy looks at Irrlicht 19:17 FeXoR (And since sourceforge wasn't exactly small when their business model changed I doubt the "Large companies are stable" at least in a way predictable by the projects :D But, yes, I guess one can trust them to want to make money ... and that to not have the same goal as the projects :p 19:18 frabbit hmm.. Sparky isnt here on irc, also theres no mail: https://forum.minetest.net/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=11650 19:19 frabbit and whinny mod was uloaded to forum site only, so no repo site too 19:20 rubenwardy I've sent him a message, not sure if he'll see it 19:21 frabbit rubenwardy: thats very kind of u, but not a long term solution... =( 19:22 frabbit btw. because minetest.net is using google this here is not complete: https://forum.minetest.net/ucp.php?mode=privacy 19:23 frabbit please update this then 19:26 frabbit i will register now... man that all sucks... but theres someone who will be very happy when the horses coming back to my server and i will be too 19:27 * frabbit is thinking if it wouldnt be better to be a blackhat taht attacks GAFAM with other bh... 19:30 frabbit i really wnat alphabet to die... 19:30 frabbit *want 19:31 Krock FeXoR: well, from what I can see, it still sucks 19:32 FeXoR Sourceforge? Or 0 A.D.? Or SVN? :D 19:33 Krock FeXoR: sourceforge and also a bit of SVN 19:34 frabbit sourceforge? that site that has delivered adware to u once, when downloading stuff? 19:34 * FeXoR thinks git sucks for art or other binaries 19:34 frabbit and manipulating downloads... and.... 19:34 FeXoR Yep, that sourceforge ;) 19:35 frabbit awesome... not 19:43 Calinou Git works ok for art if you never change it :P 19:43 Calinou (or if it's small enough not to be a problem, which is mostly the case in Minetest) 19:44 Calinou FeXoR: direct download links still exist on SourceForge, but they'll only be obeyed if your user agent is something like "curl" 19:44 Calinou otherwise, it will switch to the non-direct download page 19:46 FeXoR Yea, I remember having fiddled arround a but to get it to work :p 19:46 FeXoR *bit 19:55 frabbit what about: https://savannah.gnu.org/ 19:56 frabbit this is how a repo can look like there: https://savannah.nongnu.org/projects/adonthell 19:57 frabbit pretty clean and also quick to use 19:59 rubenwardy we need pull requests and a good issues tracker 19:59 rubenwardy the latter can be done with bugzilla, and the former with some other kind of review software 19:59 rubenwardy but being integrated into the git host would be good 20:02 frabbit rubenwardy: bugtracker is here: https://savannah.nongnu.org/bugs/?group=adonthell 20:02 gh00p What's the best way to change clothing/skins? I see a wardrobe mod and a clothing mod mentioned in forums from 2005, but is there something else? 20:02 rubenwardy lol, 2005 20:02 rubenwardy time travelling modders 20:03 frabbit BackToTheFuture? =D 20:03 rubenwardy I'm not sure there are any modern ones 20:03 Krock !mod skindb 20:03 MinetestBot Krock: fetching all skins from skin db [skindb] by addi - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9098 - https://bitbucket.org/kingarthursteam/skindb 20:03 Krock not that skindb 20:03 frabbit h00p use simple skins from tenplus1 20:03 Krock gh00p: https://krock-works.uk.to/minetest/modSearch.php?st=0&at=0&q=skins 20:03 frabbit gh00p: https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/simple_skins 20:04 Krock https://content.minetest.net/packages/?q=skins 20:04 frabbit also i like PilzAdams simple skin mod, but with that u cant change skins ingame 20:05 frabbit in both mods theres a folder where u can simple put skins into 20:05 rubenwardy in 5.3.0, you'll be able to change skins at run time 20:05 rubenwardy like - add skins 20:05 frabbit with PilzAdams mod u can chain them to a specific playername 20:06 rubenwardy tenplus1's has a dialog where you select an existing skin 20:06 frabbit gh00p: mod from PilzAdam -> https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=3587 20:07 frabbit ive tested both and both are working with mt 5.2.0 20:10 acagastya Hi, it is me agains: a volunteer editor on Wikimedia project. celeron55, can you please clarify one thing about your interview with (French) Wikinews editor AirSThib on IRC? 20:10 celeron55 hi, no problem 20:11 gh00p Krock, frabbit: thanks, I'll do some reading! 20:12 acagastya Since it is potentially privacy violating information, is it okay if I ask in a PM, celeron55? 20:12 celeron55 PM is fine 20:12 acagastya Thank you. 20:12 gh00p Oh, Krock is the bot. Thanks, frabbit! :) 20:12 frabbit gh00p: yw =) 20:13 frabbit gh00p: no, Krock is not a bot xD 20:13 rubenwardy I've never seen him solve a capture 20:13 rubenwardy *captcha 20:13 frabbit lol 20:13 rubenwardy I've met him in real life, but I didn't see him solve a capture 20:13 rubenwardy could be an Android 20:14 rubenwardy err -A+a 20:14 frabbit xD 20:23 celeron55 your meeting-in-life protocol should include solving a captcha 20:23 celeron55 should add it to the checklist 20:23 rubenwardy lol 20:24 * FeXoR envied Andonthell to only have one bug :p 20:25 rubenwardy \o/ 20:28 rubenwardy I'm still dreaming for MeseCon 20:28 rubenwardy the minetest convention 20:28 SoylentCow that would be fin 20:28 rubenwardy If celeron55 refuses to come, I'll have to hire kidnappers 20:28 SoylentCow lol, fun 20:29 rubenwardy joking 20:30 FeXoR frabbit: I can't find a web page to browse through the code on Savannah. Could you give me a hint? :) 20:30 FeXoR (The Andonthell Savannah page I mean) 20:35 celeron55 rubenwardy: obviously in finland, right? 20:36 rubenwardy how big is your back yard? 20:36 celeron55 pretty big, thousands of square meters 20:36 rubenwardy do you live in the middle of no where? 20:36 celeron55 yes, right there 20:37 rubenwardy I wouldn't be against finland, wondering about connectivity and organisation 20:37 frabbit FeXoR: maybe this: https://git.savannah.nongnu.org/cgit/adonthell.git 20:38 rubenwardy there's a direct flight from bristol to helinski 20:40 celeron55 the closest to me you can get on railway or bus from helsinki is about 40km away 20:40 celeron55 so say hello to your chartered bus driver, celeron55 20:41 rubenwardy lol 20:41 frabbit lol 20:41 celeron55 i have an MPV that can fit 8 that i'm planning to convert to electric but before that it could work fine 20:41 rubenwardy the convention would need to be done very close to a city, or some connected place 20:41 rubenwardy I was thinking france or germany, as it's central europe and there are quite a few core devs in that region 20:41 rubenwardy I was talking to CERN about doing it there, they have connections. Geneva is super expensive though, I wouldn't want to pay for accomodation there 20:41 rubenwardy this is a bad time to be talking about conventions and international travel :D 20:42 frabbit rubenwardy: im sure next year there will be a vaccine 20:44 celeron55 i feel it would feel like a funeral though, as i'm not developing anymore 20:44 rubenwardy lol 20:45 rubenwardy doesn't matter, I wager that you are still the last person to touch the majority of code 20:45 rubenwardy let alone the author of the majority of code 20:45 frabbit later people =) 20:45 rubenwardy plus, "not developing anymore" has an easy fix :) 20:51 celeron55 i guess germany could work, i would probably include it in an europe road trip i'd do 20:51 celeron55 planning one anyway at some point 20:54 celeron55 was thinking this summer but have to see about the restrictions 20:54 rubenwardy would be too soon for a mesecon imo 20:54 rubenwardy a road trip though, sure 20:55 celeron55 and the real twist on the road trip, of course, is doing it with a DIY electric conversion vehicle 20:55 rubenwardy :O 20:56 rubenwardy if you break down in germany, then at least there's good beer 20:56 celeron55 well, i don't drink alcohol 20:56 rubenwardy fair 20:59 celeron55 and you pretty much can't have fun with me nowadays unless it involves wrenches, rust and high voltage 21:01 celeron55 so, i might as well just road trip through all the core devs front doors, booping each one on the nose before continuing 21:02 rubenwardy loool 21:02 rubenwardy and then run off into the distance, leaving them wondering who you are and/or how you got their address 21:03 celeron55 i once hand painted wooden cubes with minetest themed pictures 21:03 celeron55 i still have them somewhere 21:03 celeron55 that's going to be the hottest stuff 21:03 rubenwardy Jeija has IRL mesecon blocks 21:04 rubenwardy He's an electronic engineer 21:04 celeron55 anyway, MT's 10 year anniversary is in october this year 21:05 rubenwardy :O 21:06 eerungur i should 3d print some minetest mobs. 21:06 celeron55 i'm pretty sure i made the first .zip on 2010-10-10 21:06 celeron55 that's a good date to release a project, easy to remember 21:06 eerungur where could i get the 3d model files from? 21:07 rubenwardy minetest doesn't have mobs 21:07 rubenwardy the old 0.3 mobs are 2D 21:07 Corey[m]1 I.. don't think minetest has mobs 21:07 Corey[m]1 Damn rubenwardy beat me to it 21:07 rubenwardy the most popular mob mod is mobs redo 21:07 rubenwardy !mod mobs 21:07 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Mobs Redo [mobs] by TenPlus1 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9917 - https://notabug.org/TenPlus1/mobs_redo 21:08 rubenwardy The Minetest logo could be a cool 3d print 21:08 eerungur rubenwardy: good idea. 21:08 rubenwardy fun fact: it's not possible to build the logo to scale in Minetest accurately 21:08 rubenwardy well, you could make it massive 21:39 eth01 interesting project folks 21:40 * eth01 has nothing valuable to add apart from it looks interesting :p 21:41 rubenwardy lol thanks 21:50 eth01 My project would be happy to donate some hosting though for your project if you would like ...we run an open source platform and offer hosting to open source projects for free. 21:51 rubenwardy celeron55 would be the person to talk to for that 21:53 eth01 coolthx 22:22 Warr1024 "not possible to build the logo to scale" <-- mesh nodes :-D 22:23 rubenwardy cheater 23:23 Corey[m]1 Were there any recent changes to the hypertext element in formspecs? 23:23 Corey[m]1 I just noticed that some of my old formspecs are jumbled unto a single line, they used to be multiple lines 23:23 rubenwardy I don't think so 23:24 rubenwardy check LF vs CRLF 23:24 Corey[m]1 one sec, I even had a comment in my code about the odd old behaviour 23:24 rubenwardy do note that the hypertext element is experimental, in the future a new line won't be a new line in the element 23:25 Corey[m]1 hope you don't mind a link drop: https://github.com/IceDragon200/mt-yatm/blob/master/yatm_codex/items/codex.lua#L54-L57 23:25 Corey[m]1 primarily my last comment: "But in all honestly it's like the inventory based sizing doesn't even apply to hypertext" 23:25 rubenwardy what 23:25 rubenwardy hypertext uses its own line spacing 23:25 Corey[m]1 Yep, that worked before I pulled the latest 23:26 Corey[m]1 And where is this line spacing configured? 23:26 rubenwardy it's not 23:26 Corey[m]1 or what was the sane default? 23:27 Corey[m]1 welp, I should have noted, the note under hypertext in the lua_api "* **Note**: This element is currently unstable and subject to change." 23:28 Corey[m]1 So, expected behaviour I guess P: 23:28 rubenwardy lol, does your mod require mod security to be disabled? 23:28 rubenwardy that's a nope from me 23:29 rubenwardy I suggest making a simpler example and opening an issue 23:29 Corey[m]1 well it requires being permitted to use some native extensions outside of that, you can view the whole code, compile it yourself and run it, I have no interest in enslaving anyone's computer to mine bitcoins P: 23:30 rubenwardy hypertext hasn't been changed in 5.3.0 23:30 rubenwardy it's the same as in 5.2.0 23:31 Corey[m]1 I honestly don't remember what version I was running when it 'worked' as intended 23:31 Corey[m]1 Since I build from master 23:32 Corey[m]1 but whatever changed, I think it's new behaviour might be sane again