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Wuzzy: Jun-05 19:13 UTC <Krock> [hudbars] How can I get the amount of displayed hudbars, or the total dimensions? |
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MinetestBot |
Wuzzy: Jun-05 21:20 UTC <yrungr> hi. in this commit https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/commit/d1d7c026e19c0802b3f471321979dbb241fdd774 you made buckets no longer liquids_pointable. is there a plan to make buckets work again? |
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Wuzzy |
Krock: you can't. |
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Wuzzy |
yrungr: buckets still work |
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Wuzzy |
yrungr: why do you imply they don't work? |
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yrungr |
because they weren't working. |
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yrungr |
i reverted to the commit before and now they do. |
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Wuzzy |
What do you mean, they don't work? |
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yrungr |
i point at the lava source, click mouse2 and nothing happens. |
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Wuzzy |
the liquid is now places at the pointed SOLID node |
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yrungr |
pardon? |
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Wuzzy |
its possible you pointed somehow deeper into the lava... |
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yrungr |
nope. |
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yrungr |
i have a screenshot. |
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Wuzzy |
Liquids get placed ON TOP of the node you point on now |
| 00:10 |
Wuzzy |
and only solid nodes are pointable now |
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Wuzzy |
not liquid ones |
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Wuzzy |
This change was made because someone claimed that this is MC behavior |
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yrungr |
i'm not not talking about putting lava down, i'm talking about picking it up. |
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Wuzzy |
oh crap |
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yrungr |
http://mine.grue.world/images/lava.png |
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Wuzzy |
bug confirmed |
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Wuzzy |
? |
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yrungr |
cool. |
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Wuzzy |
ok thanks for important, it was stupid of me to not test the empty bucket as well |
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yrungr |
glad i could help. |
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Wuzzy |
maybe I'll just make the empty bucket liquid_pointable while keeping the others untouched |
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yrungr |
that sounds like it would work. |
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Wuzzy |
hmm it would be certainly odd if you can take a liquid that is "behind" another liquid |
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Wuzzy |
although that would be another option |
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yrungr |
Wuzzy: btw, thank you so much for the work you do on mineclone2. my friends and are having so much fun with it. :) |
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oil_boi |
Hm, so what if we just move sneaking into collision.cpp? |
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sfan5, an update, it works, I just gotta work out how to stop the player from not being able to sneak past their current node |
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oil_boi |
Ooooo, I think I found a way, in the ending of collision.cpp you can gain access to all the nodes a player could stand on, let's see if I can work with this |
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Vili71 |
Hey, I am running Minetest as a server on ubuntu 20.04 and was wondering how do I use server commands from terminal without actually starting the client? |
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Vili71 |
I start the server with minetest --server |
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heavygale |
ENABLE_CURSES=ON - Build with (n)curses; Enables a server side terminal (command line option: --terminal) |
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Vili71 |
If I try to use --terminal I see an error "ERROR[Main]: Cmd arg --terminal passed, but compiled without ncurses. Ignoring." |
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Vili71 |
I see that the defaultis ON |
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Vili71 |
If I will build this my self how do I set the ENABLE_CURSES? |
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Vili71 |
Default is already ON |
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heavygale |
but is it available on yout system? did you check the output of ./configure? maybe it didn't found it |
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Vili71 |
What do you mean? Do I have to install curses? |
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heavygale |
depends on your os |
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Vili71 |
ubuntu 20.04 |
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Krock |
libncurses5, libncurses5-dev |
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Krock |
probably |
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Vili71 |
Ok did "apt-get install libncurses5-dev libncursesw5-dev" |
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Vili71 |
But same message when starting server |
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heavygale |
did you recompile it? |
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Vili71 |
Minetest? No I installed it from binaries but I still see that is should be enabled as the default is ON or am I wrong on that? |
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Krock |
> Cmd arg --terminal passed, but compiled without ncurses. Ignoring." |
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Krock |
> but compiled |
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Krock |
this means the computer that compiled Minetest (where you got it from) did not have ncurses installed |
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Krock |
this means you need to compile Minetest manually |
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Vili71 |
Ok so the default value is not ON but I have to compile it and set it to ON |
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Krock |
first set it to ON, then compile. yes. |
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Krock |
https://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest |
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Vili71 |
ok. It seems my current version is installed from snap. Can I save the worlds by just copying the files? |
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Vili71 |
or games |
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Krock |
if your worlds and games are in ~/.minetest then you don't need to copy them somewhere else |
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Krock |
nonetheless, backups are surely not a wrong thing to do |
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Vili71 |
not there. They are deep in the snap directory |
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Krock |
no idea where that is, but I recommend moving them just to be sure |
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Vili71 |
Yeah. Before snap I could actually find something in ubuntu even though I am not that good with it |
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Vili71 |
I presume it is enough to copy the /worlds directory |
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Krock |
though I don't think packages will clean up user data unless you explicitly tell them to do so |
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Vili71 |
I think I will remove the snap version if I compile own |
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Emerald2 |
I installed minetest from the Ubuntu PPA. https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/stable |
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yrungr |
Vili71: i've got a backup script that makes copies of the sqlite database files even while the server is running. one sec... |
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yrungr |
Vili71: https://github.com/yrungr/mineclone2_tools/blob/master/bin/backup.sh |
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yrungr |
if you copy the files while the server is running you will probably end up with corrupted files. |
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yrungr |
this script uses sqlite to make a copy of the sqlite database files and then compresses them. |
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yrungr |
and it works while the server is running. |
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Vili71 |
Thanks. Server is offline so it should not be a problem. These are so called family servers. For my and neighbors kids |
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yrungr |
nice. |
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yrungr |
i have a cron job set up to run this script automatically. |
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Vili71 |
At least now I see the ENABLE_CURSES:BOOL=ON |
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yrungr |
Vili71: the server terminal thing sounds interesting. |
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Vili71 |
Yeah I am planning to use it to give stuff to players to help them out. They like the survival mode but prefer to get easier start with stuff |
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yrungr |
Vili71: i like survival mode. i think you get more enjoyment from the things you build when you feel like you earned it. |
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Vili71 |
Yeah. Kids still too young. Maybe in couple of years |
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tf2ftw |
my kid (5 yo) freaked the f out the first time he saw the tree monster mob. We had to turn that one off :) |
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Vili71 |
We got Mineclone game running |
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Vili71 |
LuaJIT.. Should I use it? I installed it but cmake does not find it |
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Emerald2 |
You can have players start with a specific set of items. |
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Vili71 |
Yeah not sure where to start with that yet |
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Emerald2 |
Servers commonly give new players some steel tools, torches and a bit of food. |
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Vili71 |
Trying to find an example somewhere.. Maybe that would be better way |
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Emerald2 |
Yeah sorry I don't remember how it's done. |
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erlehmann |
anyone knows if mineclone2 oder the pontoons mod break picking up water with a bucket lately? |
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Krock |
"break" as in "error and shutdown the server"? |
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sfan5 |
someone asked about https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/commit/d1d7c026e19c0802b3f471321979dbb241fdd774 yesterday |
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Wuzzy |
yes |
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Krock |
Wuzzy: 2020-06-06 16:07:10: WARNING[Server]: Deprecated usage of statbar without size! (at [..]/mods/hudbars/init.lua:203) |
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Wuzzy |
? |
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erlehmann |
Krock, we just can not pick up water |
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sfan5 |
https://git.minetest.land/Wuzzy/MineClone2/commit/56d49e08b ...is there a reason for this fix? |
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Wuzzy |
omg... duuudes |
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Wuzzy |
calm down, everyone |
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Wuzzy |
It will be fixed in next version, OK? |
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Krock |
that's what you get by using different engine and builtin versions |
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Wuzzy |
??? |
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Wuzzy |
I don't understand |
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Krock |
get_connected_players removed from builtin, but using an older binary that does not have it implemented |
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Wuzzy |
Why would anyone want to use an incompatible builtin???? |
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Wuzzy |
Someone must have been trying to deliberately break builtin. it doesnt make sense |
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sfan5 |
there is no reason to delay calling get_connected_players() either way |
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Wuzzy |
... |
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Krock |
sfan5: well, calling it in init time logs a deprecation warning |
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Wuzzy |
I still think get_connnected_players should just return {} instead of nil. its so annoying otherwise |
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Krock |
so that's probably there to avoid the log mesage |
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Krock |
it returns a table |
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Krock |
at least in the current master build it does |
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Wuzzy |
Wait. the deprecation warning is fake?? omgggggg |
| 14:13 |
Krock |
it's not fake |
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sfan5 |
oh |
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sfan5 |
it *does* return {} at load time though |
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sfan5 |
but yeah you get a warning |
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sfan5 |
totally forgot about that |
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Wuzzy |
LOL |
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Wuzzy |
yes please remove the pointless warning then |
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erlehmann |
if someone wanted to have a web interface for the server to show e.g. how many players are on it or a map, how would that work? |
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erlehmann |
is there a drop-in solution? |
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rubenwardy |
see https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=21999 |
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rubenwardy |
it contains player markers and more |
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rubenwardy |
not sure on performance |
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erlehmann |
thx rubenwardy |
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erlehmann |
rubenwardy, is there also some kind of API to ask the server stuff like how many ppl are online, e.g. over http? |
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rubenwardy |
you can use the server list |
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rubenwardy |
there's also my metrics API |
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rubenwardy |
https://gitlab.com/rubenwardy/public_minetest_metrics |
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sfan5 |
mods generally can't expose e.g. a HTTP server but you can make them push data to elsewhere |
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rubenwardy |
ie: https://minetest.rubenwardy.com/metrics?server=ctf.rubenwardy.com:30001 |
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rubenwardy |
if it's your server, you can use prometheus |
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Vili71 |
Emerald2 Alright it was quite simple to make a small mod to give stuff on respawn |
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Vili71 |
Just made a folder in /mods and added init.lua with minetest.register_on_respawnplayer(function(player) |
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Vili71 |
player:get_inventory():add_item("main","mcl_tools:pick_iron") |
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SKCro |
Hi |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Add HTTP API to main menu (#9998) 60bab8b https://git.io/JfMvA (2020-06-06T16:17:08Z) |
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Wuzzy |
Calinou: Can you please honour the wiki requests? Some players have been waiting since Oct 2019. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=10473 |
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Wuzzy |
Calinou: If you don't have time for Minetest stuff anymore, maybe you should give a trusted core dev control over the wiki, one that will honour wiki requests faster |
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rubenwardy |
doesn't need to be a core dev, could be someone who is trusted and already uses the wiki lots |
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rubenwardy |
? |
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Wuzzy |
'trusted' is the keyword, yea |
| 16:47 |
rubenwardy |
I'd trust you |
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rubenwardy |
alternatively, the captchas could be fixed |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Fix incorrect extension used for ContentDB thumbnails 36099ba https://git.io/JfMUm (2020-06-06T17:31:39Z) |
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Calinou |
Wuzzy: I can't give other people administrator privileges |
| 17:46 |
Calinou |
but to those who can, feel free to add more people |
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Wuzzy |
? |
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Wuzzy |
who are those people? |
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Calinou |
no idea :/ |
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appguru |
celeron55 got to have an idea |
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Calinou |
I made accounts for all pending requests but one of them is someone who didn't get the original email |
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Calinou |
since the account is already created, I can't create a new one with a manually assigned password I'd PM to them :( |
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hmm, the wiki account situation is a lacking for sure |
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appguru |
WeeChat 2.8 seems to support IRC |
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appguru |
!tell macc24_ I recommend you use something better than WeeChat |
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MinetestBot |
appguru: yeah, sure, whatever |
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sfan5 |
huh? |
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appguru |
#10003 |
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ShadowBot |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/10003 -- Inventory image render-to-texture (texture modifier + store_texture) by appgurueu |
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MinetestBot |
[git] numberZero -> minetest/minetest: Restore visual_scale support for nodeboxes (and allfaces) (#9906) e746607 https://git.io/JfMLp (2020-06-06T20:25:18Z) |
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[git] sfan5 -> minetest/minetest_game: creative: Update for compatibility with minetest.creative_is_enabled … 6d2a897 https://git.io/JfMmj (2020-06-06T22:15:35Z) |
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