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swift110 |
sup |
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kurtzmusch |
!book |
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MinetestBot |
kurtzmusch: Minetest Modding Book - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ |
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swift110 |
nice |
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kurtzmusch |
is it practical to store 120k of key, values with mod_storage? |
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kurtzmusch |
those would be loaded only once and kept as a lua table until server shutdown ... |
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jas_ |
you could try just pushing it until it breaks, kurtzmusch |
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jas_ |
"there's more than one way to find out what's inside an egg" |
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jas_ |
lol |
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Wuzzy |
woah. i am already minetesting for 7 years now, can you believe it? |
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Wuzzy |
time flies fast ... |
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Wuzzy |
https://wiki.minetest.net/images/6/6c/Minetest_Mods_and_Games_by_Wuzzy_2012_2019.png |
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Wuzzy |
Can someone give me advice, please? |
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Wuzzy |
explain why this user has a "freeze" in v6, plz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p358006 |
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codic |
Wuzzy: Minetest v6? |
| 18:03 |
codic |
whats that? |
| 18:03 |
Wuzzy |
nothing |
| 18:03 |
codic |
i thought we were at v5 |
| 18:03 |
Wuzzy |
its in your fantasy alone |
| 18:04 |
codic |
You just said freeze in v6 |
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Wuzzy |
mapgen v6!! |
| 18:04 |
codic |
Oh ok :P |
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Wuzzy |
also, it was not me who said this, it was that user |
| 18:04 |
Wuzzy |
any explanation? |
| 18:04 |
codic |
But Final Minetest==Minetest v6 right? |
| 18:04 |
Wuzzy |
oh i should repost the question |
| 18:04 |
Wuzzy |
explain why this user has a "freeze" in v6, plz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p358006 |
| 18:05 |
codic |
Wat? |
| 18:05 |
codic |
Can you add spawn eggs? |
| 18:05 |
Wuzzy |
i already did. in MCL2 at least. |
| 18:05 |
Wuzzy |
except they dont look like eggs at all ? |
| 18:06 |
codic |
Do they work? |
| 18:06 |
Wuzzy |
Final Minetest would not be v6, but more like v999999999 |
| 18:06 |
codic |
Wait what |
| 18:06 |
codic |
Final Minetest is a porgra |
| 18:06 |
Wuzzy |
woosh |
| 18:07 |
Wuzzy |
thats the sound it makes when the joke went over your head |
| 18:07 |
codic |
final minetest |
| 18:07 |
codic |
fork of v4 |
| 18:07 |
Krock |
same sound when it's a plane |
| 18:07 |
Wuzzy |
"Final Minetest is a porgra" ... WHAT??? |
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GreenDimond |
What does Final Minetest have to do with anything |
| 18:08 |
codic |
I meant program |
| 18:08 |
GreenDimond |
Final Minetest is not official or endorsed and should not be used |
| 18:09 |
Wuzzy |
why should it not be used? its just a game. dont judge people for what they play! |
| 18:09 |
Wuzzy |
unless you want to claim it is malware and hacks my pc or something like that |
| 18:09 |
codic |
But some servers only work with it |
| 18:10 |
codic |
Exactly |
| 18:10 |
codic |
It's not malware |
| 18:10 |
codic |
although the website can be misleading |
| 18:10 |
Wuzzy |
oh boy yes thats true |
| 18:10 |
GreenDimond |
The creator and the source site are malicious |
| 18:10 |
GreenDimond |
The intent of the game is to claim "ownership" of Minetest |
| 18:11 |
Wuzzy |
but can you proof to me that Final Minetest, the program alone, are malware? |
| 18:11 |
codic |
Wait what? |
| 18:11 |
codic |
Who says? |
| 18:11 |
Wuzzy |
GreenDimond |
| 18:11 |
Wuzzy |
kind of implies it |
| 18:11 |
codic |
besides him |
| 18:11 |
GreenDimond |
The game itself is not malicious |
| 18:11 |
codic |
XD |
| 18:11 |
GreenDimond |
Never said it was |
| 18:11 |
codic |
what is |
| 18:12 |
codic |
You said the creator and the author are malicious |
| 18:12 |
codic |
But HOW? |
| 18:12 |
GreenDimond |
Though it does send user data without permission, IIRC, Wuzzy |
| 18:13 |
GreenDimond |
There is a discussion about this somewhere |
| 18:13 |
codic |
Wait |
| 18:13 |
codic |
what data |
| 18:13 |
Wuzzy |
source of it didnt happen! |
| 18:13 |
codic |
ok |
| 18:13 |
Wuzzy |
source or it didnt happen!* |
| 18:13 |
codic |
can you post it |
| 18:13 |
GreenDimond |
Somewhere implying I dont know where |
| 18:13 |
codic |
yeah |
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| 18:13 |
Wuzzy |
"someone somewhere said something" is not evidence |
| 18:13 |
codic |
Then it isn't correct |
| 18:13 |
codic |
without a source |
| 18:13 |
Wuzzy |
thats not what i said |
| 18:13 |
GreenDimond |
Wuzzy, is there a reason you are trying to defend software made by OldCoder? |
| 18:14 |
codic |
Is Final Minetest open source? |
| 18:14 |
MinetestBot |
[git] srifqi -> minetest/minetest: All settings: Fix missing flags checkbox caused by 'possible flags' o… b79741c https://git.io/JeZcq (2019-09-27T18:13:08Z) |
| 18:14 |
codic |
Who's Old Coder? |
| 18:14 |
GreenDimond |
Someone you dont want to deal with |
| 18:14 |
Wuzzy |
I just demand evidence for your claims. |
| 18:14 |
codic |
Seriously |
| 18:14 |
codic |
Who is he |
| 18:15 |
codic |
Wuzzy is absolutely correct |
| 18:15 |
GreenDimond |
Which claim |
| 18:15 |
Wuzzy |
an user who was banned from MT forums and most #minetest IRC rooms |
| 18:15 |
codic |
The claim that Final Minetest is malware |
| 18:15 |
GreenDimond |
His servers were banned from the list too |
| 18:15 |
GreenDimond |
I did not say it was malware |
| 18:15 |
Wuzzy |
OldCoder operates minetest.org and Final Minetest |
| 18:15 |
GreenDimond |
Or malicious |
| 18:15 |
Wuzzy |
hum. the servers too? |
| 18:15 |
Wuzzy |
how did that happen? |
| 18:16 |
Wuzzy |
incompatible? trying to hack sth? |
| 18:16 |
GreenDimond |
He is a malicious party |
| 18:16 |
GreenDimond |
He scrapes player info |
| 18:16 |
GreenDimond |
Just like he does from his site |
| 18:16 |
Wuzzy |
and how do you know? |
| 18:17 |
GreenDimond |
Because he says so |
| 18:17 |
Wuzzy |
where? |
| 18:17 |
GreenDimond |
on his site |
| 18:17 |
GreenDimond |
Why are you being so difficult |
| 18:17 |
GreenDimond |
Everyone but you knows this |
| 18:18 |
Wuzzy |
ooff do you think i am reading like billions of pages now? :/ |
| 18:18 |
Wuzzy |
minetest.org is kinda huge. |
| 18:18 |
GreenDimond |
Just a little bit big, yes |
| 18:18 |
Wuzzy |
why is it so hard to just post a link? |
| 18:18 |
GreenDimond |
Why do you think |
| 18:18 |
GreenDimond |
Why would I keep direct links to random posts |
| 18:19 |
GreenDimond |
If you don't believe me I dont care |
| 18:19 |
Wuzzy |
so you claim OldCoder grabs passwords of players? |
| 18:19 |
GreenDimond |
I didnt say passwords |
| 18:19 |
GreenDimond |
I said data |
| 18:19 |
GreenDimond |
In general |
| 18:19 |
GreenDimond |
Maybe it includes passwords |
| 18:19 |
GreenDimond |
It likely includes IPs |
| 18:19 |
Wuzzy |
ah you mean general data leech stuff? |
| 18:19 |
Krock |
all servers collect data, it's their job. |
| 18:20 |
GreenDimond |
Ok, I mean keep it for unreasonable purposes, Krock |
| 18:20 |
GreenDimond |
I shouldnt have to keep specifying this stuff |
| 18:20 |
Wuzzy |
can you be more specific? |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
GreenDimond: verbosity is good |
| 18:20 |
GreenDimond |
cba |
| 18:21 |
GreenDimond |
not with wuzzy |
| 18:21 |
GreenDimond |
Why dont you just ask someone like sfan5 for the specific reason his servers were blacklisted |
| 18:21 |
GreenDimond |
Everyone knows OldCoder is a malicious party, I shouldn't have to prove it to you. |
| 18:22 |
GreenDimond |
(Everyone: The regular community) |
| 18:26 |
Wuzzy |
Is it something personal? |
| 18:26 |
Wuzzy |
Did you both get in a fight or something? |
| 18:26 |
GreenDimond |
lol no |
| 18:27 |
GreenDimond |
You are really out of the loop arent you |
| 18:27 |
Wuzzy |
so you personally never had any *direct* trouble with OldCoder? |
| 18:27 |
GreenDimond |
If you dont know then you dont know I guess |
| 18:27 |
GreenDimond |
Once maybe? |
| 18:28 |
Wuzzy |
oh? |
| 18:28 |
GreenDimond |
He's usually too busy attacking the rest of the community |
| 18:28 |
Wuzzy |
interesting. i was never attacked. |
| 18:28 |
Wuzzy |
whatever you mean with "attack" |
| 18:28 |
GreenDimond |
*sigh* |
| 18:28 |
GreenDimond |
Im done with you |
| 18:29 |
Wuzzy |
? |
| 18:29 |
Wuzzy |
look. its you who makes the claims |
| 18:29 |
GreenDimond |
They arent claims |
| 18:29 |
GreenDimond |
They are restatement of past events |
| 18:29 |
GreenDimond |
That you happened to miss |
| 18:29 |
GreenDimond |
Somehow |
| 18:29 |
Wuzzy |
pics or it didnt happen |
| 18:29 |
GreenDimond |
Fuck off |
| 18:30 |
Wuzzy |
well, that escalated quickly ... |
| 18:30 |
GreenDimond |
Yep |
| 18:30 |
GreenDimond |
"pics or it didnt happen" is bs |
| 18:31 |
sfan5 |
it's hard to take your concern trolling seriously when you have experienced the events in e.g. 2017 |
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| 18:33 |
Wuzzy |
speaking of events. did anything happen *recently*? |
| 18:33 |
sfan5 |
he's been harassing various community members in private here and there |
| 18:34 |
GreenDimond |
Some openly (twitter incident) |
| 18:34 |
Wuzzy |
*recently*?? |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
yes recently |
| 18:34 |
Wuzzy |
there's a twitter? oops i didnt know |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
isn't that what you asked |
| 18:34 |
sfan5 |
do you think I can't read |
| 18:38 |
Wuzzy |
i guess i will just never really understand what that oldcoder drama is really about them. welp... |
| 18:39 |
sfan5 |
in December 2017 you created a forum topic in general discussion, it provides some insight, give it a read |
| 18:41 |
Wuzzy |
lol that trademark thing? the trademark was never registered, amirite? ? |
| 18:42 |
Wuzzy |
ooohh 2017? thats like 2 billion internet years ago. yeah well |
| 18:43 |
Wuzzy |
but in all seriousness. would it be even legal for any minetest community member to just trademark "minetest"? |
| 18:44 |
Wuzzy |
wellll.Even if. Minetest is still a pretty shitty name. ? |
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MinetestBot |
DS-minetest: Sep-25 20:14 UTC <AlexYst> I finally got the mesh working, but it's using multiple textures in OBJ format. Multi-texture OBJs still work. |
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DS-minetest |
hm, do obj materials work in minetest? |
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tumeninodes |
Wuzzy, how is this? A while back I asked him to stop spamming users PMs with vile and confusing/disturbing PMs, he took this as a reason to attack me, and the dox me on his site giving information on where I live because he thinks he is a some wizard hacker (even though I had always publicly and openly admitted my own town of residence, then he went on to state that I am part of an organization which promotes child pornography and |
| 18:51 |
tumeninodes |
harassed and me (of which I have saved every single interaction) He feels everyone owes him something and if you do not agree or he perceives that you are against him he will attack you |
| 18:51 |
tumeninodes |
so there you go |
| 18:51 |
tumeninodes |
is that "a nice person?" he is also mentally disturbed |
| 18:52 |
tumeninodes |
and when I asked him to stop spamming PMs on the forum I did so because my child was on the forums and got PMs stating I am part of a child pornogaphy ring (basically) |
| 18:52 |
tumeninodes |
he has called people's places of work, etc... as well. |
| 18:53 |
tumeninodes |
He feels that because he volunteered for a few years at provideing "help" to people regarding MT/MTG that it is now his. |
| 18:54 |
tumeninodes |
he uses his disability to attack people and bully them and harass them and twist their words. |
| 18:55 |
tumeninodes |
thats all I have to say on the matter now... see ya |
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Andrey01 |
hello, how to check whether a player has his inventory opened? |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
as far as I know, you can't, it's purely client-side |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
I'm not sure if the client even sends a packet when opening the inventory |
| 20:26 |
Andrey01 |
ah ok |
| 20:27 |
Krock |
no packets are sent |
| 20:38 |
codic |
VanessaE Did you consider adding Laptops to Dreambuilder? |
| 20:38 |
codic |
!mod laptops |
| 20:38 |
MinetestBot |
codic: computers : Realistics laptops by jimy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9567 |
| 20:39 |
Andrey01 |
thx, other question: how long does one game minute last in real time? |
| 20:40 |
codic |
I'm pretty sure not more then a couple secs |
| 20:40 |
Andrey01 |
that is, exactly 2 seconds? |
| 20:40 |
codic |
I'm not sure lol |
| 20:41 |
codic |
I just guessed |
| 20:41 |
GreenDimond |
It depends on the minetest.conf settings |
| 20:41 |
VanessaE |
codic, I'll look at it again after I get internet back at home. |
| 20:41 |
codic |
You can set it with /set time_speed=(something) |
| 20:41 |
codic |
ingame |
| 20:41 |
codic |
I think that changes minetest.conf |
| 20:41 |
GreenDimond |
Yes |
| 20:41 |
codic |
ok |
| 20:42 |
Andrey01 |
I don`t need to configure it |
| 20:42 |
Andrey01 |
hmm, I think it lasts even less a one second |
| 20:42 |
codic |
Ok |
| 20:43 |
calcul0n |
Andrey01, with default settings i think it's 1 minute = 1 second irl |
| 20:43 |
calcul0n |
but it can vary a lot with lag |
| 20:43 |
GreenDimond |
You shouldnt hardcode it |
| 20:43 |
GreenDimond |
calculate it from the conf setting |
| 20:43 |
Wuzzy |
its the time_speed setting |
| 20:44 |
Wuzzy |
its 72 by default, meaning that minetest time is 72 faster than real time |
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Andrey01 |
I was just very fast entering /time cmd and the time changed approx at one minute |
| 20:47 |
Andrey01 |
and I entered it in each 0.5/0.8 seconds |
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kurtzmusch |
anyone know how viable it is to store about 1.200.000 key, values pair with mod_store? |
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Wuzzy |
who has "thread moving rights"? to move threads from WIP Mods to Mod Releases forum? |
