Time Nick Message 02:00 swift110 sup 02:06 kurtzmusch !book 02:06 MinetestBot kurtzmusch: Minetest Modding Book - https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/ 02:07 swift110 nice 02:13 kurtzmusch is it practical to store 120k of key, values with mod_storage? 02:14 kurtzmusch those would be loaded only once and kept as a lua table until server shutdown ... 12:25 jas_ you could try just pushing it until it breaks, kurtzmusch 12:28 jas_ "there's more than one way to find out what's inside an egg" 12:28 jas_ lol 12:47 Wuzzy woah. i am already minetesting for 7 years now, can you believe it? 12:47 Wuzzy time flies fast ... 12:48 Wuzzy https://wiki.minetest.net/images/6/6c/Minetest_Mods_and_Games_by_Wuzzy_2012_2019.png 13:06 Wuzzy Can someone give me advice, please? 13:07 Wuzzy explain why this user has a "freeze" in v6, plz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p358006 18:03 codic Wuzzy: Minetest v6? 18:03 codic whats that? 18:03 Wuzzy nothing 18:03 codic i thought we were at v5 18:03 Wuzzy its in your fantasy alone 18:04 codic You just said freeze in v6 18:04 Wuzzy mapgen v6!! 18:04 codic Oh ok :P 18:04 Wuzzy also, it was not me who said this, it was that user 18:04 Wuzzy any explanation? 18:04 codic But Final Minetest==Minetest v6 right? 18:04 Wuzzy oh i should repost the question 18:04 Wuzzy explain why this user has a "freeze" in v6, plz: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=16407&view=unread#p358006 18:05 codic Wat? 18:05 codic Can you add spawn eggs? 18:05 Wuzzy i already did. in MCL2 at least. 18:05 Wuzzy except they dont look like eggs at all ? 18:06 codic Do they work? 18:06 Wuzzy Final Minetest would not be v6, but more like v999999999 18:06 codic Wait what 18:06 codic Final Minetest is a porgra 18:06 Wuzzy woosh 18:07 Wuzzy thats the sound it makes when the joke went over your head 18:07 codic final minetest 18:07 codic fork of v4 18:07 Krock same sound when it's a plane 18:07 Wuzzy "Final Minetest is a porgra" ... WHAT??? 18:08 GreenDimond What does Final Minetest have to do with anything 18:08 codic I meant program 18:08 GreenDimond Final Minetest is not official or endorsed and should not be used 18:09 Wuzzy why should it not be used? its just a game. dont judge people for what they play! 18:09 Wuzzy unless you want to claim it is malware and hacks my pc or something like that 18:09 codic But some servers only work with it 18:10 codic Exactly 18:10 codic It's not malware 18:10 codic although the website can be misleading 18:10 Wuzzy oh boy yes thats true 18:10 GreenDimond The creator and the source site are malicious 18:10 GreenDimond The intent of the game is to claim "ownership" of Minetest 18:11 Wuzzy but can you proof to me that Final Minetest, the program alone, are malware? 18:11 codic Wait what? 18:11 codic Who says? 18:11 Wuzzy GreenDimond 18:11 Wuzzy kind of implies it 18:11 codic besides him 18:11 GreenDimond The game itself is not malicious 18:11 codic XD 18:11 GreenDimond Never said it was 18:11 codic what is 18:12 codic You said the creator and the author are malicious 18:12 codic But HOW? 18:12 GreenDimond Though it does send user data without permission, IIRC, Wuzzy 18:13 GreenDimond There is a discussion about this somewhere 18:13 codic Wait 18:13 codic what data 18:13 Wuzzy source of it didnt happen! 18:13 codic ok 18:13 Wuzzy source or it didnt happen!* 18:13 codic can you post it 18:13 GreenDimond Somewhere implying I dont know where 18:13 codic yeah 18:13 Wuzzy "someone somewhere said something" is not evidence 18:13 codic Then it isn't correct 18:13 codic without a source 18:13 Wuzzy thats not what i said 18:13 GreenDimond Wuzzy, is there a reason you are trying to defend software made by OldCoder? 18:14 codic Is Final Minetest open source? 18:14 MinetestBot 02[git] 04srifqi -> 03minetest/minetest: All settings: Fix missing flags checkbox caused by 'possible flags' o… 13b79741c https://git.io/JeZcq (152019-09-27T18:13:08Z) 18:14 codic Who's Old Coder? 18:14 GreenDimond Someone you dont want to deal with 18:14 Wuzzy I just demand evidence for your claims. 18:14 codic Seriously 18:14 codic Who is he 18:15 codic Wuzzy is absolutely correct 18:15 GreenDimond Which claim 18:15 Wuzzy an user who was banned from MT forums and most #minetest IRC rooms 18:15 codic The claim that Final Minetest is malware 18:15 GreenDimond His servers were banned from the list too 18:15 GreenDimond I did not say it was malware 18:15 Wuzzy OldCoder operates minetest.org and Final Minetest 18:15 GreenDimond Or malicious 18:15 Wuzzy hum. the servers too? 18:15 Wuzzy how did that happen? 18:16 Wuzzy incompatible? trying to hack sth? 18:16 GreenDimond He is a malicious party 18:16 GreenDimond He scrapes player info 18:16 GreenDimond Just like he does from his site 18:16 Wuzzy and how do you know? 18:17 GreenDimond Because he says so 18:17 Wuzzy where? 18:17 GreenDimond on his site 18:17 GreenDimond Why are you being so difficult 18:17 GreenDimond Everyone but you knows this 18:18 Wuzzy ooff do you think i am reading like billions of pages now? :/ 18:18 Wuzzy minetest.org is kinda huge. 18:18 GreenDimond Just a little bit big, yes 18:18 Wuzzy why is it so hard to just post a link? 18:18 GreenDimond Why do you think 18:18 GreenDimond Why would I keep direct links to random posts 18:19 GreenDimond If you don't believe me I dont care 18:19 Wuzzy so you claim OldCoder grabs passwords of players? 18:19 GreenDimond I didnt say passwords 18:19 GreenDimond I said data 18:19 GreenDimond In general 18:19 GreenDimond Maybe it includes passwords 18:19 GreenDimond It likely includes IPs 18:19 Wuzzy ah you mean general data leech stuff? 18:19 Krock all servers collect data, it's their job. 18:20 GreenDimond Ok, I mean keep it for unreasonable purposes, Krock 18:20 GreenDimond I shouldnt have to keep specifying this stuff 18:20 Wuzzy can you be more specific? 18:20 Krock GreenDimond: verbosity is good 18:20 GreenDimond cba 18:21 GreenDimond not with wuzzy 18:21 GreenDimond Why dont you just ask someone like sfan5 for the specific reason his servers were blacklisted 18:21 GreenDimond Everyone knows OldCoder is a malicious party, I shouldn't have to prove it to you. 18:22 GreenDimond (Everyone: The regular community) 18:26 Wuzzy Is it something personal? 18:26 Wuzzy Did you both get in a fight or something? 18:26 GreenDimond lol no 18:27 GreenDimond You are really out of the loop arent you 18:27 Wuzzy so you personally never had any *direct* trouble with OldCoder? 18:27 GreenDimond If you dont know then you dont know I guess 18:27 GreenDimond Once maybe? 18:28 Wuzzy oh? 18:28 GreenDimond He's usually too busy attacking the rest of the community 18:28 Wuzzy interesting. i was never attacked. 18:28 Wuzzy whatever you mean with "attack" 18:28 GreenDimond *sigh* 18:28 GreenDimond Im done with you 18:29 Wuzzy ? 18:29 Wuzzy look. its you who makes the claims 18:29 GreenDimond They arent claims 18:29 GreenDimond They are restatement of past events 18:29 GreenDimond That you happened to miss 18:29 GreenDimond Somehow 18:29 Wuzzy pics or it didnt happen 18:29 GreenDimond Fuck off 18:30 Wuzzy well, that escalated quickly ... 18:30 GreenDimond Yep 18:30 GreenDimond "pics or it didnt happen" is bs 18:31 sfan5 it's hard to take your concern trolling seriously when you have experienced the events in e.g. 2017 18:33 Wuzzy speaking of events. did anything happen *recently*? 18:33 sfan5 he's been harassing various community members in private here and there 18:34 GreenDimond Some openly (twitter incident) 18:34 Wuzzy *recently*?? 18:34 sfan5 yes recently 18:34 Wuzzy there's a twitter? oops i didnt know 18:34 sfan5 isn't that what you asked 18:34 sfan5 do you think I can't read 18:38 Wuzzy i guess i will just never really understand what that oldcoder drama is really about them. welp... 18:39 sfan5 in December 2017 you created a forum topic in general discussion, it provides some insight, give it a read 18:41 Wuzzy lol that trademark thing? the trademark was never registered, amirite? ? 18:42 Wuzzy ooohh 2017? thats like 2 billion internet years ago. yeah well 18:43 Wuzzy but in all seriousness. would it be even legal for any minetest community member to just trademark "minetest"? 18:44 Wuzzy wellll.Even if. Minetest is still a pretty shitty name. ? 18:44 MinetestBot DS-minetest: Sep-25 20:14 UTC I finally got the mesh working, but it's using multiple textures in OBJ format. Multi-texture OBJs still work. 18:45 DS-minetest hm, do obj materials work in minetest? 18:51 tumeninodes Wuzzy, how is this? A while back I asked him to stop spamming users PMs with vile and confusing/disturbing PMs, he took this as a reason to attack me, and the dox me on his site giving information on where I live because he thinks he is a some wizard hacker (even though I had always publicly and openly admitted my own town of residence, then he went on to state that I am part of an organization which promotes child pornography and 18:51 tumeninodes harassed and me (of which I have saved every single interaction) He feels everyone owes him something and if you do not agree or he perceives that you are against him he will attack you 18:51 tumeninodes so there you go 18:51 tumeninodes is that "a nice person?" he is also mentally disturbed 18:52 tumeninodes and when I asked him to stop spamming PMs on the forum I did so because my child was on the forums and got PMs stating I am part of a child pornogaphy ring (basically) 18:52 tumeninodes he has called people's places of work, etc... as well. 18:53 tumeninodes He feels that because he volunteered for a few years at provideing "help" to people regarding MT/MTG that it is now his. 18:54 tumeninodes he uses his disability to attack people and bully them and harass them and twist their words. 18:55 tumeninodes thats all I have to say on the matter now... see ya 20:18 Andrey01 hello, how to check whether a player has his inventory opened? 20:24 Calinou as far as I know, you can't, it's purely client-side 20:24 Calinou I'm not sure if the client even sends a packet when opening the inventory 20:26 Andrey01 ah ok 20:27 Krock no packets are sent 20:38 codic VanessaE Did you consider adding Laptops to Dreambuilder? 20:38 codic !mod laptops 20:38 MinetestBot codic: computers : Realistics laptops by jimy - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9567 20:39 Andrey01 thx, other question: how long does one game minute last in real time? 20:40 codic I'm pretty sure not more then a couple secs 20:40 Andrey01 that is, exactly 2 seconds? 20:40 codic I'm not sure lol 20:41 codic I just guessed 20:41 GreenDimond It depends on the minetest.conf settings 20:41 VanessaE codic, I'll look at it again after I get internet back at home. 20:41 codic You can set it with /set time_speed=(something) 20:41 codic ingame 20:41 codic I think that changes minetest.conf 20:41 GreenDimond Yes 20:41 codic ok 20:42 Andrey01 I don`t need to configure it 20:42 Andrey01 hmm, I think it lasts even less a one second 20:42 codic Ok 20:43 calcul0n Andrey01, with default settings i think it's 1 minute = 1 second irl 20:43 calcul0n but it can vary a lot with lag 20:43 GreenDimond You shouldnt hardcode it 20:43 GreenDimond calculate it from the conf setting 20:43 Wuzzy its the time_speed setting 20:44 Wuzzy its 72 by default, meaning that minetest time is 72 faster than real time 20:44 Andrey01 I was just very fast entering /time cmd and the time changed approx at one minute 20:47 Andrey01 and I entered it in each 0.5/0.8 seconds 22:03 kurtzmusch anyone know how viable it is to store about 1.200.000 key, values pair with mod_store? 23:36 Wuzzy who has "thread moving rights"? to move threads from WIP Mods to Mod Releases forum?