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Xiong |
Has anyone recent experience with bobblocks? Original author seems to have left the building years ago; VE worked on it a little ~2017. Forum posts, a theme is "I forked it to..." and I wonder if there's a working copy. |
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rubenwardy |
ah, nostalgia |
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dreambuilder has the most up-to-date copy afaik |
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Xiong |
What I installed, works strangely. There is only one craft for a basic block, and they're colored by punching by wielding dye. |
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VanessaE |
or look on my gitlab, I think I have an eqivalent fork of if |
17:52 |
VanessaE |
that's old |
17:52 |
Xiong |
Hi VE! |
17:52 |
VanessaE |
current code uses crafting like usual, or airbrush |
17:52 |
VanessaE |
hi |
17:53 |
Xiong |
The key issue is, a new crafted block cannot be recovered after placing. |
17:55 |
VanessaE |
how do you mean? "'recovered" in what way |
17:56 |
Xiong |
If the block is off, digging it recovers an unk-junk. If the block is on, the dig turns it off before recovery. I have worked around this by putting a glass block on top then using the technic mining drill to dig... which digs both without punching the bobblock. |
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Xiong |
Recover into inventory for reuse. |
17:57 |
VanessaE |
sounds like you just need to update everything. :) |
17:58 |
Xiong |
Well... update what? All my installs are very fresh. |
17:58 |
VanessaE |
MT 0.4.17.1 or 5.0-dev, bobblocks, unified dyes (from the correct repos) |
17:59 |
Xiong |
I think rabbibob's bobblocks is stale. |
17:59 |
VanessaE |
very. |
17:59 |
VanessaE |
get it from the minetest-mods group or my fork |
18:00 |
VanessaE |
lemme search.... |
18:00 |
Xiong |
Okay so... no need to fiddle with the rest of my good working system. I mean to try your bobblocks. |
18:00 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/BobBlocks. |
18:01 |
VanessaE |
that's the right one |
18:01 |
Xiong |
I did not try that yet because... comparing... it appears rabbibob pulled you. |
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Xiong |
That's why I'm here asking. |
18:02 |
VanessaE |
yeah he updates kinda randomly but afaik not since a long while |
18:03 |
Xiong |
Let me shuffle around and try from VE version. |
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VanessaE |
still no internet at home so while I can't do any testing |
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VanessaE |
-while |
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Xiong |
Let me see what I get. I find bobblocks useful. |
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VanessaE |
Xiong: well? :) |
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Xiong |
Well, works. I'm not surprised. It works a bit oddly... but then it must, I guess, if it's going to come in 89 colors. |
18:34 |
Xiong |
Punch while wielding dye to set color. Digging appears to recover the colored block but it places plain again... and the dye is itself recovered. So good. Can't dwibble over how many of each color to stock |
18:34 |
VanessaE |
try 256 colors :) |
18:34 |
VanessaE |
did you update unified dyes? |
18:35 |
VanessaE |
from my gitlab report |
18:35 |
VanessaE |
report* |
18:35 |
Xiong |
Well, the downside is need to stock dye. Don't usually take dye Below. |
18:35 |
Xiong |
Fresh install of UD. |
18:35 |
VanessaE |
REPO. you piece of shut. :) |
18:36 |
Xiong |
Android is messy. I have an installer... uncertain how it works. |
18:36 |
VanessaE |
no it ain't. current UD does not dye by punching with dye |
18:37 |
VanessaE |
it only dyes by crafting or using the aitbrush tool |
18:38 |
Xiong |
Well... that's odd. I'd have thought the punch-color was a trick of bobblocks, not UD. |
18:38 |
VanessaE |
nope |
18:39 |
Xiong |
I really dislike manual install. My phone is... unsuited to adult work. |
18:40 |
VanessaE |
afair only technic framed glass had its own punch-with-dye implementation, otherwise all mods got it from UD |
18:40 |
Xiong |
What I have works. What do I gain by trying a manual install of UD? Besides newer and cooler. |
18:40 |
VanessaE |
it'll fix your bugs. :P |
18:41 |
VanessaE |
such as placing plain |
18:42 |
Xiong |
Er... so it'll be back to stocking multiple colors. Is that certainly better? |
18:42 |
VanessaE |
and anyway if you're now eying manual installment what were you doing before |
18:42 |
Xiong |
Hang on... |
18:43 |
VanessaE |
that's how it used to work before param2 coloring was a thing so i don't see a prob |
18:43 |
Xiong |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenwardy.minetestmodmanager&hl=en_US&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_term%3Dminetest+mod+installer+play&pcampaignid=APPU_1_TKgSXNedIL3K0PEPpeK_6AM |
18:44 |
Xiong |
Yuk, sorry. |
18:44 |
VanessaE |
plus in creative mode you can dye blocks with the airbrush without needing ANY dye in your Inc |
18:44 |
Xiong |
Never a creative player. ;) Hardcore all the way. |
18:45 |
Xiong |
So rubenwardy's app installs mods with less fiddly... and usually does well. I have no idea how he gathers search targets. |
18:46 |
rubenwardy |
using Krock's mod search |
18:46 |
rubenwardy |
which has been down for the last few months, because changed URL |
18:46 |
rubenwardy |
it'll also still be pointing at github instead of gitlab |
18:47 |
Xiong |
Obviously I can download and install by hand. It's just nasty. Android is hell, or jail, or both. |
18:47 |
Xiong |
Okay I've been out of the loop. What's with GitHub? |
18:48 |
Xiong |
All my work is there. Is the ship sinking? |
18:48 |
Krock |
oh.. need to update the database again? |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
but I can't really do *that* until my home 'net comes back |
18:48 |
VanessaE |
oops lagged out |
18:48 |
rubenwardy |
Krock: I need to change mine |
18:49 |
rubenwardy |
specifically: https://github.com/rubenwardy/mtmods4android_server/blob/master/crawler/settings.json.example#L6 |
18:49 |
VanessaE |
ok so at least nothing *I* did[n't do] broke it. :) |
18:49 |
Krock |
I had HTTP 301 on it for a while but yeah.. scripts sadly don't update automatically |
18:50 |
Xiong |
Oh hell. M$. |
18:50 |
Xiong |
So everyone is fleeing GitHub now? For reason. |
18:51 |
Xiong |
Nono VE. You fix, not break. |
18:51 |
VanessaE |
a lot of people fled yeah |
18:52 |
VanessaE |
M$ comes in, I gtfo |
18:52 |
Xiong |
Well this just makes it that much harder to identify the really truly current version of anything. |
18:54 |
VanessaE |
yeah.. |
18:55 |
Xiong |
Any newcomers here... VanessaE has been at this a long time. If you are wondering about a mod, consider VE the standard. |
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VanessaE |
me? standard? ehhhh idk about that |
18:58 |
Xiong |
I don't usually endorse. But VE has worked tirelessly to fix one trick ponies, orphaned and stalled mods, and package them up so they Just Work. I don't mean to slight her original work... but anyone can add new cool features. I respect maintenance programming... very highly. |
18:58 |
VanessaE |
well, thanks :) |
18:59 |
VanessaE |
"VanessaE, queen of the one-trick ponies" heh |
19:01 |
Xiong |
Hm. VanessaE, your byline is one of the few things I rely on when trying to sort stuff. I talk and think before I act, so I came here scratching my head about bobblocks. But I'd already scoped out your version and trying that was my next action anyway. |
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VanessaE |
:) |
19:02 |
Xiong |
Well. These flash-in-pan mods that add one really cool node... and possibly 5 idiot ideas. You mainstream these things. |
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Xiong |
For my money, drop the bobblocks traps. What kind of dad says, here some pretty color lights... and spikes to impale people? |
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Xiong |
... mumble. Anyway... let me surf over to GitLab and get new UD. I'm sure it won't hurt... except to cause me to curse Android again. |
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Xiong |
Do you know this phone is the only device I've owned for which I had to specially download a plain text editor... and pay Real Cash Money for one without ads? I've paid more for better in years past but there is NO basic editor in my phone. |
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* Xiong |
wanders off ranting |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
you shoulda. got iota |
19:13 |
VanessaE |
jota |
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VanessaE |
its free and ad-less |
19:14 |
VanessaE |
also I've been stuck on this G*d damned phone for 4 days. I'm going nuts |
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Xiong |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2178 |
19:17 |
Xiong |
This points from VE to GitLab... but still says punch to color. |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
I'll fix that comment later |
19:17 |
VanessaE |
remind me in a few days? |
19:20 |
Xiong |
I would... but I will not promise what I can't deliver. I forget to tie my slip-ons. |
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19:20 |
VanessaE |
or I'll fix it now |
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Hidan |
Hi there. One question about farming. i dont use any mods. do need cotton plants and papyrus sunlight to grow up? |
19:25 |
Krock |
yes |
19:25 |
Krock |
and hello :D |
19:25 |
Hidan |
hi :) |
19:26 |
Krock |
well, you could also use a very shiny light node |
19:26 |
Krock |
but those would have to be directly on the side of the plant (or on top) |
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Hidan |
can i use mese lamps? |
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VanessaE |
Xiong, fixed. the recipe for the airbrush is wrong though... that *will* have to wait |
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Krock |
mese lamp has light level 14. https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/nodes.lua#L2739 |
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Krock |
cotton needs 13 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/farming/init.lua#L61 --> works |
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Hidan |
damn wanna go farming at underground :P |
19:30 |
Hidan |
ok cotton will be underground :) |
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Krock |
papyrus eneds 13 https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/blob/master/mods/default/functions.lua#L229 --> works |
19:31 |
Krock |
how about try&error? that's also a method to figure it out |
19:32 |
Hidan |
ok ty very much. i like this community. have nice day :) |
19:33 |
Xiong |
VanessaE no go. I installed UD from your gitlab... cannot color bobblocks at all now, crafting or punching. That's your version of bobblocks too. |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
wat |
19:34 |
VanessaE |
impossible |
19:34 |
Xiong |
I have not tried airbrush. If that's only creative, do not want. |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
airbrush works in survival as long as you have dyes somewhere in your inv |
19:35 |
VanessaE |
it will only paint using the colors you have on hand |
19:36 |
Xiong |
Well you can blame that I installed inferior versions before. Have I cleaned out every trace? New crafted bobblocks stack with old ones. Newly crafted dye stacks with existing. |
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* VanessaE |
is confused |
19:37 |
Xiong |
I'm putting bobblock and dye in grid. Shapeless? Tried a few positions. Unified inventory is silent. |
19:38 |
* Xiong |
tries airbrush |
19:39 |
VanessaE |
check the bobblocks github pull request tracker, maybe one of my commits is not merged yet? |
19:44 |
Xiong |
No, UD is not loading at all now. |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
basic_materials |
19:45 |
VanessaE |
UD needs brass from it |
19:45 |
Xiong |
I have checked. Folder named "unifieddyes". Enabled. |
19:45 |
Xiong |
?? |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
i mean install basic_materials too |
19:46 |
Xiong |
Dependency not error? |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
19:46 |
Xiong |
What about technic brass? |
19:46 |
VanessaE |
if UD wont load that's probably why |
19:47 |
VanessaE |
technic gets its brass from basic_material also. |
19:47 |
* Xiong |
fiddles |
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19:47 |
VanessaE |
(If youre up-to-date) |
19:49 |
Xiong |
Well I've crafted brass already. But no basic* in mods. |
19:49 |
VanessaE |
it'll still work when you craft with it but UD still requires basic_materials |
19:50 |
Xiong |
Oky. |
19:50 |
VanessaE |
(that mod has aliases to prevent breakages) |
19:52 |
Xiong |
I miswrote. VE UD is on GitHub. |
19:52 |
VanessaE |
negatory |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
gitlab. |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
VanessaE, not sure if you saw: working fractional distillation column, for splitting crude oil into things https://i.rubenwardy.com/ctXjd.png |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
including naphtha to make plastic |
19:53 |
rubenwardy |
still majorly buggy |
19:53 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy, nice! |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy, I presume you have clear_craft calls to override basic_materials' recipes? |
19:55 |
rubenwardy |
yes |
19:55 |
VanessaE |
+1 |
19:56 |
rubenwardy |
my basic_materials compat is here: https://github.com/rubenwardy/oil/blob/master/products.lua#L1-L27 |
19:56 |
Xiong |
Argh! |
19:56 |
Xiong |
https://github.com/minetest-mods/unifieddyes |
19:56 |
Xiong |
That's shite? |
19:57 |
VanessaE |
description = "Paraffin wax" ought to be in basic_materials so that you can avoid that override.. PR? |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
Xiong, that is the wrong report |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
repo * |
19:58 |
VanessaE |
*all* of my mods are on gitlab. always go there first |
19:59 |
Xiong |
Okay. "VanessaE", no results on GitLab. |
19:59 |
VanessaE |
wat |
19:59 |
Krock |
wat. https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/ |
19:59 |
VanessaE |
moment |
19:59 |
Krock |
maybe login required? |
19:59 |
VanessaE |
thanks, Krock |
19:59 |
Krock |
I'd say that's a ninja'd :P |
20:00 |
VanessaE |
login required? I doubt it? |
20:00 |
Xiong |
Nah, bum search tool. https://gitlab.com/VanessaE/basic_materials |
20:00 |
VanessaE |
yeah yeah just exploit my handicap :P |
20:01 |
VanessaE |
Xiong: et. al, yeah. |
20:01 |
Xiong |
Did you get married, divorced, transgendered, or hijacked |
20:01 |
VanessaE |
wat |
20:01 |
Krock |
I think they mean the name change |
20:01 |
Xiong |
Yah. |
20:02 |
Krock |
The Great Evolution Of VanessaE |
20:02 |
VanessaE |
... |
20:02 |
rubenwardy |
maybe |
20:02 |
VanessaE |
married, then widowed. |
20:02 |
Krock |
whatever. does not interest me.gn peeps :) |
20:03 |
rubenwardy |
the issue is that basic_materials conflates paraffin wax and paraffin into one thing. Paraffin wax is a solid material used for candles, Paraffin is also known as kerosine and is used as jet fuel, but happens to be close to naphtha which is used to make plastic |
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rubenwardy |
this makes my head hurt |
20:03 |
rubenwardy |
finding it hard to get good information on this |
20:04 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy, its always supposed to have been wax. |
20:04 |
rubenwardy |
oh cool |
20:04 |
VanessaE |
I think homedecor uses it for candles in fact |
20:04 |
VanessaE |
(if it doesn't, PR welcome) |
20:05 |
VanessaE |
besides you can't begrudge me a little creative license given the game's limits. :) |
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Xiong |
I'm not one to poke in personal details. I was just confused. |
20:07 |
rubenwardy |
it does use it for candles |
20:07 |
Xiong |
I have installed basic_materials. Going to try it. |
20:08 |
VanessaE |
Xiong, and no hijacking either. :P |
20:08 |
Xiong |
Erm... condolences for late partner. Sorry I'm inept and tactless. |
20:09 |
VanessaE |
thanks. |
20:18 |
Xiong |
Okay... now I have two brass ingots, different things. Still cannot craft colored bobblocks directly, will try airbrush... when I make some brass2. |
20:19 |
Xiong |
Dunno if the brass thing can be fixed by updating technic, UD, *.* |
20:20 |
Xiong |
But time for my nap. So thanks VE, I'm started. Will bash on it after $work. |
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!rainbow c o l o r i z i n g |
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4c o7 l 8o r3 i z i6 n g |
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!rainbow c o l o u r i z i n g |
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4c o7 l 8o 3 u r 6i z i 4n g |
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!rainbow c o l o u r i s i n g |
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4c o7 l 8o 3 u r 6i s i 4n g |
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!rainbow oh c'est joli: |
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4oh 7c'e8st 3joli: |
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sup folks |
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hi |
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how are you VanessaE |
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!rainbow good night all people and other creatures |
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4good7 nig8ht a3ll peopl6e and ot4her 7crea8ture3s |
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