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MinetestBot |
[git] raymoo -> minetest/minetest: Fix default item callbacks to work with nil users (#5819) a5d5728 https://git.io/vFIed (2017-10-28T08:30:50Z) |
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[git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Avoid filtering low-res textures for animated meshes (incl. players) … 610ea6f https://git.io/vFIeb (2017-10-28T08:33:47Z) |
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rubenwardy |
https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/924237730158137344 |
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sfan5 |
nice |
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sy |
coolio |
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Krock |
needs more gamers |
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sy |
need more monitors for that |
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sy |
monitors are expensive |
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sy |
also we need high quality gamers |
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sy |
not what we have now |
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sy |
no offense guys |
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deltasquared |
shots fired, but none taken I guess :P |
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sy |
tbh most people at freenodelive are p cool |
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Krock |
I wonder how you can't take that offending |
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sy |
it's only the people who use the server list exclusively that I dislike |
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deltasquared |
awww man I really wanted to go but it's a little far for me to travel alone |
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deltasquared |
bristol, I mean |
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sy |
o dam is it in the uk now |
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deltasquared |
sy: yeah, and it's a mile away from the end point of a train I catch every day |
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deltasquared |
so it kinda sucks that I couldn't find anyone to accompany me |
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deltasquared |
also what is that booklet I spy in the right hand picture |
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deltasquared |
well both of them actually |
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asl97 |
deltasquared: https://rubenwardy.com/freenode-live/ |
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deltasquared |
hmm, I should have a play with CTF at some point |
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asl97 |
sy, (cc: rubenwardy): Shouldn't there be some people who brought their own computer? you could setup a (private) local server, setup a hotspot if there isn't a network, provide a copy of the game if there no internet access, provide a copy of the world at the end of the event. |
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deltasquared |
asl97: as long as you don't try to name the hotspot to confuse people with the venue wifi (if any) |
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deltasquared |
IIRC there was something like that at FOSDEM where it was something like "fosdem wifi powered by google" but it was an MitM thing |
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deltasquared |
!mod homedecor |
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MinetestBot |
deltasquared: Home Decor [homedecor_modpack] by VanessaE - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=2041 |
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deltasquared |
... oh, it's a modpack. |
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rubenwardy |
There's WiFi but they blocked the minetest ports |
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rubenwardy |
*they're not open |
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sy |
why |
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asl97 |
rubenwardy: sound like firewall issue |
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rubenwardy |
Yep |
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asl97 |
ether way, you could always just setup a hotspot. |
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rubenwardy |
The it team is in the process of opening |
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sy |
ask them to unblock them |
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rubenwardy |
We have more laptops |
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sy |
an |
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sy |
ah* |
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deltasquared |
rubenwardy: could be worse, at least the IT dep. there aren't on a power trip |
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Fixer |
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rubenwardy |
"so, you're a Minecraft rip off?" - one guy |
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Raven262 |
You need a giant sign saying: "Except for being a procedurally generated voxel game, this thing has nothing to do with Minecraft" |
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sy |
why dont /w 10 |
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sy |
fuck |
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rubenwardy |
https://twitter.com/rubenwardy/status/924260974458232832 |
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rubenwardy |
Quite strong |
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sy |
hope ur not drinking and mining |
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Raven262 |
Why not, what could possibly go wrong? xD |
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lisac |
rubenwardy, what mods did you add there? :) |
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rubenwardy |
On the book? Rubenwardy.com/freenode-live |
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rubenwardy |
On the monitor, we were planning to connect to a server but it's blocked so we had to panic install a few |
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rubenwardy |
Currently ethereal and other worlds |
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lisac |
toolranks? :P |
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lisac |
no, but really, toolranks looks cool |
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deltasquared |
!mod toolranks |
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deltasquared: Tool ranks [toolranks] by lisacvuk - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=18056 |
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rubenwardy |
There are too many good mods to showcaee |
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rubenwardy |
We just tried to show ones which are both diverse and visual as possible |
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rubenwardy |
Which is why we chose protector over areas |
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deltasquared |
rubenwardy: are you hoping to attract more devs to the game via your presence there? |
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rubenwardy |
Yes |
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rubenwardy |
We've had a few interested |
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deltasquared |
I'm curious if any minecraft devs would be interested in branching out a bit... was it worldpainter where the guy said he's porting it from minecraft |
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deltasquared |
!mod worldpainter |
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deltasquared: Could not find anything. |
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deltasquared |
hmm |
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rubenwardy |
No MC devs as such |
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rubenwardy |
A few players |
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rubenwardy |
Most people haven't played it |
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Raven262 |
deltasquared, that wasn't a mod IIRC, it was in minetest related projects subforum. |
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Enriko |
Here you are |
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Enriko |
170 users, nice |
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homthack |
yes |
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Enriko |
the channel #minetest-de have more users than from another Country channels, but english is more, ist default |
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homthack |
ready |
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Enriko |
The channel: homthack isnt your language |
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Enriko |
The channel #minetest-de isnt your language |
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Enriko |
Thats only for german |
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ok |
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rubenwardy: minetest stronk |
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salahzar |
is there anybody knowing deeply lua programming as used by this link: http://uberi.mesecons.net/projects/Clock/index.html |
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deltasquared |
I dunno about "deeply", there's not that much to lua once you have the basics of procedural programming, but I can certainly have a look |
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salahzar |
my question is how this if event.type == "program" then mem.accept = {[0]=true, [2]=true, [3]=true, [5]=true, [6]=true, [7]=true, [8]=true, [9]=true} elseif event.type == "digiline" then port.a = mem.accept[event.msg.minute] port.b, port.d = port.a, port.a end can seriously map to setting led segments correctly. I couldn't understand how this can work :( |
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salahzar |
especially seems kind of magic : port.b, port.d = port.a, port.a |
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Krock |
I cam imagine that this code would look much better with indents and proper line breaks in a pastebin |
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salahzar |
what happens is that with input 1 port.a becomes false and the other ports become true and false as opposite :( |
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deltasquared |
salahzar: is that the "top" controller code you're looking at there yeah? |
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salahzar |
yes you can have a look at the page I posted before |
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salahzar |
yep |
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deltasquared |
salahzar: well bearing in mind that there's one controller program per row, it seems simple enough to me, it's basically determining if that row should be turned on for a given digit |
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Digit |
eehehehehe. tickles. |
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* deltasquared |
throws a CRT monitor at Digit |
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deltasquared |
HAAAAAAAX! |
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deltasquared |
ahem. |
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Digit |
lol |
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deltasquared |
salahzar: the if event.type == "program" bit is setting up which digits that controller should respond to |
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Krock |
the code for each row has been optimized to make it as small as possible, that's why it looks a bit weird |
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Krock |
deltasquared, rather, it sets up the translation table from minutes to port output |
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deltasquared |
Krock: in the other ones yeah, I hadn't read further down |
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deltasquared |
the top one just switches on/off as a whole. |
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deltasquared |
hmm, I just had a cool idea for a digilines-to-mesecons bus expander a la redpower's bundled cables |
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Krock |
here a even more sophisticated idea: a HDMI to water hose adapter https://www.schnatterente.net/img/articles/hama-hdmi-wasser1.jpg |
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deltasquared |
Krock: ... fff I just hit the clear buffer key combo, can you link that again |
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Krock |
http://shop.draemel.de/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/10155066_679358778786980_688824824_n.jpg |
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deltasquared |
Krock: .... I cannot even comprehend why anyone would create this |
| 19:30 |
Krock |
And here's a self-pointing URL in case you cleared the buffer again: http://irc.minetest.net/minetest/2017-10-28#i_5122327 |
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deltasquared |
I don't want to remember this, my brain segfaults when I see it |
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Krock |
deltasquared, me neither. Obviously works /s |
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salahzar |
my problem is that I want to show this in a class on how to use mesecons in smart way to people who are just newbies |
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salahzar |
and if I dont' understand how it works I can't try to teach others |
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salahzar |
the url is taken from the "official" page of mesecon usage |
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deltasquared |
I can't help there, I wouldn't attempt to teach unless I had a solid grasp of the subject matter |
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salahzar |
while I am not completely proficient in lua, I am a professional programmer in Java/Scala/C |
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Krock |
index starts with 1 |
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salahzar |
and the lua lines I wrote appear complete wizardry to me :( |
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salahzar |
what is for me incredible is that for some values, a is becoming null |
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salahzar |
but b and d are acquiring some surprising values |
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deltasquared |
salahzar: port is an output, it would be nil if you hadn't assigned it I would think (or I at least would not assume it had any value) |
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salahzar |
port.a = mem.accept[event.msg.minute] port.b, port.d = port.a, port.a |
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salahzar |
when mem.accept cannot get the value and so it is null, port.a becomes false |
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salahzar |
but port.b and port.d becomes one switched on and the other switched off |
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salahzar |
and this is to me something quite weird |
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salahzar |
is this something very peculiar to lua? |
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salahzar |
nothing similar happens in java, scala or c++ |
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salahzar |
it is definitely counter intuitive ... |
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salahzar |
I have observed this happening in my minetest world but could not understand the logic |
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Krock |
$ salahzar checkout -b PMs |
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deltasquared |
salahzar: your reasoning is correct, port b and d should be the same, you sure you've got it pointed the right way? |
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deltasquared |
sometimes it can be daft things |
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salahzar |
my intuition would be that they should be all off when 1 is launched on the digilines channel |
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salahzar |
but what happens is that a goes off, but one of the other two is going on so to display the top line of 1 |
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salahzar |
which is what is needed, but I can't understand "why" :( |
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deltasquared |
... f'argh lost the link again |
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deltasquared |
nvm found it |
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Krock |
deltasquared, again? Why didn't you bookmark the HDMI to water hose image the last time ? :P |
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* deltasquared |
ties up Krock with a hose |
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deltasquared |
phrasing intentional |
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