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Hijiri |
Minetest Redo |
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kaeza |
Unified Minetest |
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rubenwardy |
LM*MO |
| 00:12 |
rubenwardy |
Less minetest.*, more oop |
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hfranqui |
Hi all |
| 00:16 |
hfranqui |
Any skin switching mod that supports sfinv? |
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KaadmY |
Is the zoom priv default or do I have to specifically enable it if I use `default_privs` in minetest.conf? |
| 00:26 |
AlexYst |
What's the advantage of using minetest.* or core.* over the other? |
| 00:26 |
KaadmY |
AlexYst: nothing |
| 00:26 |
KaadmY |
But it's shorter and looks nicer ;) |
| 00:26 |
AlexYst |
KaadmY: It doesn't seem to be default, no. |
| 00:26 |
AlexYst |
KaadmY: Ah, got it. |
| 00:27 |
KaadmY |
In the builtin code, it's literally a `minetest = core` |
| 00:27 |
KaadmY |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/builtin/init.lua#L25 |
| 00:27 |
AlexYst |
I wonder why both options are provided then. Strange. |
| 00:27 |
KaadmY |
It was probably originally called "minetest" |
| 00:27 |
KaadmY |
Then they added the alias for backwards compatibility |
| 00:28 |
AlexYst |
I'm not sure why the new name would be needed though. It's the Minetest API, so minetest.* makes more sense than core.* . |
| 00:29 |
rubenwardy |
it's still minetest |
| 00:29 |
rubenwardy |
the core name is internal only |
| 00:29 |
AlexYst |
Not that I actually care one way ore the other. |
| 00:29 |
AlexYst |
Ah, got it. |
| 00:29 |
KaadmY |
rubenwardy: why is core "internal"? |
| 00:29 |
rubenwardy |
inside the source code, it was renamed to core to make making forks of Minetest easier |
| 00:29 |
KaadmY |
They're identical |
| 00:29 |
rubenwardy |
you should still using minetest in a mod |
| 00:29 |
KaadmY |
Why? |
| 00:29 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: OH! I get it, that was a good idea. |
| 00:30 |
rubenwardy |
because that's the convention |
| 00:30 |
rubenwardy |
ie: the documentation says to use minetest, so do all mods |
| 00:30 |
KaadmY |
And why does the lua_api.txt say it's core.colorize while all the other functions are minetest.* |
| 00:30 |
rubenwardy |
that's a mistake |
| 00:30 |
AlexYst |
Maybe: minetest = core;core = nil |
| 00:31 |
AlexYst |
Not that that should happen now, it's too late. |
| 00:31 |
KaadmY |
Well, a lot of mods also use core |
| 00:31 |
AlexYst |
Yeah, that's why it's too late. |
| 00:31 |
KaadmY |
I don't know why the "minetest" namespace is used anyway |
| 00:31 |
KaadmY |
Core is simpler and more to-the-point |
| 00:31 |
AlexYst |
"core" is shorter, but not to the point. Core of what? |
| 00:32 |
KaadmY |
Core of the modding platform? |
| 00:32 |
KaadmY |
Core functionality |
| 00:32 |
AlexYst |
That said, I do like short names. There's a reason I'm at y.st. in DNS. |
| 00:32 |
KaadmY |
:D |
| 00:32 |
rubenwardy |
it's personal preference as well |
| 00:33 |
rubenwardy |
*ofc |
| 00:34 |
AlexYst |
I can't wait to have a home Internet connection again. I've been yearning to put a Minetest server at "minet.y.st.:30000". |
| 00:34 |
KaadmY |
:D |
| 00:34 |
* KaadmY |
drools |
| 00:34 |
rubenwardy |
minetest is still the official namespace though |
| 00:35 |
rubenwardy |
!title https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/1258 |
| 00:35 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: Organize builtin into subdirectories and use "core" namespace internally by ShadowNinja · Pull Request #1258 · minetest/minetest · GitHub |
| 00:35 |
rubenwardy |
Apr 2014 :O |
| 00:35 |
AlexYst |
KaadmY: Last I checked, "minete.st." is still available for registration. |
| 00:35 |
KaadmY |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.st |
| 00:38 |
rubenwardy |
"An error occurred during a connection to y.st. Peer’s Certificate has been revoked. Error code: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE" |
| 00:38 |
KaadmY |
Yeah, similar thing here |
| 00:41 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: Yeah, Firefox and maybe others have revoked the root StartSSL cert. Until I find another gratis provider, I can't do much about it. Not much money, sorry. |
| 00:41 |
KaadmY |
TIL warrant canary |
| 00:41 |
AlexYst |
"TIL"? |
| 00:42 |
rubenwardy |
LetsEncrypt is good |
| 00:42 |
KaadmY |
Today I Learned |
| 00:42 |
rubenwardy |
also: https://blog.rubenwardy.com/2017/05/05/HTTPS-with-github-pages-and-custom-domain/ |
| 00:42 |
AlexYst |
Ah, got it. |
| 00:44 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: Let's Encrypt refuses to issue certs that last longer than three months. Not my server, so I can't control when certs are refreshed. That means I need to leave at least a month's buffer during which to hope the server updates, dropping that to two months. I don't have time to switch certs every two months. |
| 00:44 |
AlexYst |
I can look into that GitHub option though. It might work. |
| 00:44 |
rubenwardy |
AlexYst, cronjob |
| 00:45 |
AlexYst |
Assuming GitHub allows trailing dots. |
| 00:45 |
rubenwardy |
sudo letencrypt renew once again |
| 00:45 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: Not my server, I have no cron access. |
| 00:45 |
rubenwardy |
*once aday |
| 00:45 |
rubenwardy |
waaaat |
| 00:45 |
rubenwardy |
why do you need trailing dots? |
| 00:46 |
AlexYst |
Because my website is at <https://y.st./>. It uses a trailing dot. |
| 00:46 |
KaadmY |
Wait |
| 00:46 |
KaadmY |
How |
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rubenwardy |
that doesn't look valid |
| 00:46 |
AlexYst |
I'm not updating all my links and trying to figure out who all's linked to be and trying to get them to update too. |
| 00:47 |
AlexYst |
KaadmY: That's the proper form, most people just don't know all domains end in a dot and they leave it off. |
| 00:47 |
rubenwardy |
http://www.dns-sd.org/trailingdotsindomainnames.html |
| 00:47 |
KaadmY |
Hm, I've _never_ seen that |
| 00:47 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: It's perfectly valid, though most Web browsers don't handle it correctly because it's so uncommonly used. |
| 00:48 |
AlexYst |
I've actually got a page on that and a bunch of bug reports. |
| 00:48 |
rubenwardy |
did your site have problems without it? |
| 00:48 |
AlexYst |
<https://y.st./en/URI_research/SNI_bug.xhtml> |
| 00:48 |
rubenwardy |
revoked certificate, remember |
| 00:49 |
rubenwardy |
lynx works |
| 00:49 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: On some local networks, there was a potential for a problem. I wouldn't know if anyone actually hit that problem though. |
| 00:49 |
rubenwardy |
although it downloads it and opens in a web browser for some reason |
| 00:50 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: Lynx doesn't work. It strips the dot from the HTTP Host header, which is incorrect behaviour. |
| 00:50 |
rubenwardy |
it works at getting around your broken certificate |
| 00:50 |
AlexYst |
OH! Got it. |
| 00:50 |
KaadmY |
Well, you could just skip the bad cert |
| 00:51 |
KaadmY |
Chromium (or uBlock?) allows you to ignore it |
| 00:51 |
AlexYst |
KaadmY: Doing that requires a good cert though. I don't have one since that root got revoked. |
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AlexYst |
KaadmY: Any decent browser and most indecent browsers should allow you to bypass the error. Chromium is one of those browsers. |
| 00:52 |
KaadmY |
I know |
| 00:52 |
KaadmY |
I did that |
| 00:52 |
AlexYst |
Okay, I was confirming it was Chromium, not uBlock. |
| 00:53 |
KaadmY |
Because uBlock also blocks pages sometimes, I think only (possible) malware/ads/etc |
| 00:53 |
AlexYst |
Ah, got it. |
| 00:53 |
rubenwardy |
so the whole point is in case a local network has a local mt tld? |
| 00:53 |
rubenwardy |
hmmm :P |
| 00:54 |
AlexYst |
I removed all third-party hotlinking a while back and I don't use cookies or anything like that, so I hope nothing blocks my site. |
| 00:54 |
AlexYst |
The point is to do it right. |
| 00:55 |
AlexYst |
The RFCs say to use the dot whenever there is any chance of ambiguity. |
| 00:55 |
AlexYst |
There's almost always a chance. |
| 00:55 |
AlexYst |
<https://blog.rubenwardy.com/2017/05/05/HTTPS-with-github-pages-and-custom-domain/> is coming through as a blank page. |
| 00:56 |
rubenwardy |
what browser? |
| 00:56 |
KaadmY |
Works here, Chromium |
| 00:56 |
AlexYst |
Firefox, and I updated Firefox, like, three days ago. |
| 00:57 |
KaadmY |
I have a blog too, I have like 4 posts though |
| 00:57 |
AlexYst |
It looks like the page has no source code from here, which I'm sure isn't right. |
| 00:57 |
KaadmY |
And two are test posts |
| 00:57 |
fireglow |
An error occurred during a connection to y.st. Peer’s Certificate has been revoked. Error code: SEC_ERROR_REVOKED_CERTIFICATE |
| 00:57 |
fireglow |
fix it |
| 00:57 |
AlexYst |
Yesterday was entry #795 on mine, starting at #0. |
| 00:58 |
KaadmY |
fireglow: that's what we're talking about ._. |
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rubenwardy |
can't see any weird status codes in the log (all 200 or 304) |
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AlexYst |
fireglow: If you know a gratis TLS certificate provider, I'd love to fix it. |
| 00:58 |
fireglow |
AlexYst: letsencrypt |
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rubenwardy |
lol |
| 00:58 |
fireglow |
^_^ |
| 00:58 |
KaadmY |
> Let's Encrypt refuses to issue certs that last longer than three months. Not my server, so I can't control when certs are refreshed. That means I need to leave at least a month's buffer during which to hope the server updates, dropping that to two months. I don't have time to switch certs every two months. |
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* KaadmY |
sighs |
| 00:58 |
AlexYst |
fireglow: They won't issue certificates for long enough. I'm too busy to update the cert every two months. |
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* fireglow |
praises cron |
| 00:59 |
AlexYst |
fireglow: Not my server, I have no cron access. |
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* KaadmY |
signs |
| 00:59 |
KaadmY |
Dang it |
| 00:59 |
KaadmY |
Does ANYBODY read backlog :( |
| 00:59 |
fireglow |
no |
| 00:59 |
AlexYst |
Let's Encrypt assumes a specific use case that not everyone fits into. |
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KaadmY |
> Not my server, I have no cron access. |
| 00:59 |
fireglow |
so set up a cronjob on a remote computer and push the cert |
| 01:01 |
rubenwardy |
AlexYst, does https://rubenwardy.com load ok? If you open the network inspector and reload, is there any weird things? And if non of those work, can you see Nginx 404 at http://139.162.164.143/ |
| 01:01 |
rubenwardy |
if you cba, don't worry |
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AlexYst |
fireglow: The only file access I have is over SSH. I don't even have full SSH access though. I have to use SSHFS. Try combining that with cron. Good luck. You'd need to find a way to see if it's mounted, and if not, mount it before pushing. Furthermore, I don't think I like the idea of my computer automatically reaching out across the network without my specifically having told it to do that. |
| 01:02 |
fireglow |
aw |
| 01:02 |
fireglow |
too bad |
| 01:03 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: Another blank page, and nothing in the network inspector. |
| 01:03 |
AlexYst |
Trying the IP address ... |
| 01:04 |
AlexYst |
rubenwardy: The IP address Web address gives me a 404 error. |
| 01:05 |
AlexYst |
If I add an "s" to the scheme, I get the same blank page as with the domain name-based URI. |
| 01:05 |
rubenwardy |
my server only supports TLSv1-1.2 with ecliptic curve ciphers, so I'm guessing it's that |
| 01:06 |
rubenwardy |
it should automatically redirect from http to https |
| 01:06 |
AlexYst |
Hmm. THat shouldn't cause a problem with "http:"-scheme addresses though. |
| 01:06 |
AlexYst |
OH! Got it. |
| 01:06 |
fireglow |
badmins |
| 01:07 |
AlexYst |
fireglow: I do my best, but I have little by way of resources. |
| 01:08 |
AlexYst |
At least we're not using bare, unencrypted HTTP. |
| 01:09 |
AlexYst |
Well, I've got to go. Might be back in about an hour. |
| 01:09 |
rubenwardy |
o/ |
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fireglow |
AlexYst: hmm sec, there was some swiss free cert site, I'll try and find it |
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fireglow |
aw "Promotion ends 30/04/2017" |
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KaadmY |
What's the `flag` settingtype? |
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KaadmY |
Ah, radio button list? |
| 02:55 |
KaadmY |
Maybe that should be in the doc :/ |
| 02:55 |
KaadmY |
Right now it just says "Flags are always separated by comma without spaces." which is a bit vague |
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KaadmY |
Is there a save interval variable? |
| 03:39 |
KaadmY |
For how often world data files are saved? |
| 03:39 |
KaadmY |
Ie. achievements, hunger state, etc |
| 03:42 |
kaeza |
KaadmY, that is up to mods |
| 03:42 |
KaadmY |
For achievements, saving every time an achievement is changed is really bad |
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kaeza |
some provide config variables, for others you need to modify the sources |
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KaadmY |
Because it coule be possibly for every dig/place/craft |
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kaeza |
make an issue on the repo |
| 03:43 |
KaadmY |
Times how many players per server |
| 03:43 |
KaadmY |
I'm making my own achievements mod ;) |
| 03:43 |
KaadmY |
I just want a guideline on save durations |
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kaeza |
ah |
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KaadmY |
Is 20 seconds too long? |
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kaeza |
I'd use 10 minutes personally |
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KaadmY |
I'll probably also try to do it intelligently |
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kaeza |
(and of course save on shutdown) |
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KaadmY |
Like 30 seconds after the last achievement change |
| 03:44 |
KaadmY |
To batch achievements gotten around the same time |
| 03:45 |
KaadmY |
Actually 30 seconds after the last change is bad |
| 03:45 |
KaadmY |
Since it could go minutes if achievements keep changing |
| 03:45 |
KaadmY |
So 30 seconds after any change if there isn't a timer already |
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KaadmY |
Flush and repeat |
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PureTryOut[m] |
Let's Encrypt is free |
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VanessaE |
yep |
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MinetestBot |
[git] rubenwardy -> minetest/minetest: Replace inconsistent mentions of core.* with minetest.* (#5749) f286c54 https://git.io/v99t5 (2017-05-12T09:27:58Z) |
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yusf[m] |
Is there a light alternative to moretrees? |
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DS-minetest |
hi MinetestBot |
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MinetestBot |
Hello DS-minetest! |
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calculon |
yusf[m], not really an alternative but i like realtrees |
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calculon |
it doesn't add new trees but make them grow in a realistic way |
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yusf[m] |
calculon: Interesting! It's that mod with multiple growing stages, right? |
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calculon |
yes |
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Stitch3s |
Hi |
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KaadmY |
Wat |
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AlexYst |
Sometimes you just can't decide on a number. I've had those days. |
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AlexYst |
The square root of negative one is always a good choice though. |
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Raven262 |
Decide a number? Well i decided one long ago and no more problems show up. |
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Fixer |
666 |
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Raven262 |
Well, if anyone can tell me if 262 is some kind of mathematical constant or something... It just keeps appearing in my life randomly. |
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Raven262 |
Even if it was i doubt it would have anything to to with this anyway. |
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Raven262 |
Mystery unsolved. |
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Wuzzy |
Raven262: 262 is a constant. |
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Wuzzy |
not sure if it has any relevance |
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Raven262 |
Something of a mathematical relevance? |
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Raven262 |
Or just an ordinary number? |
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Wuzzy |
i dont know. 262 doesnt seem very special though |
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calculon |
hmm, https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_262 |
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Wuzzy |
#AllNumbersMatter |
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Raven262 |
Yes, i know of it for some time now |
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Raven262 |
Makes it even more odd if you ask me :P |
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AlexYst |
Raven262: I meant red-#, as they kept changing their number for a bit. |
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Raven262 |
Yeah, i have seen red changing his numbers lots of times, yet for the reasons unknown to me :o |
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AlexYst |
Ha ha. |
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Raven262 |
The discussion on minetest-hub is lol |
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Raven262 |
it is really funny |
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AlexYst |
I'm liking this new tin that was added to the game. WHen copper was added, I was kind of frustrated because of the copper + iron thing, but the new tin fixes that. |
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AlexYst |
What is minetest-hub? |
| 19:32 |
Raven262 |
channel? |
| 19:32 |
AlexYst |
Huh. Hadn't heard of that one. |
| 19:32 |
Raven262 |
I can't talk there, seems that one has to earn the voice |
| 19:33 |
Raven262 |
I heard of it yesterday, while discussing with the devs about the minetest clone apps |
| 19:33 |
Raven262 |
they said that i should talk there |
| 19:33 |
calculon |
it's a channel for minetest contributors |
| 19:34 |
lisac |
Putting a stake through the vampire's heart kills it; but it also kills anything else. |
| 19:34 |
Raven262 |
Yes |
| 19:34 |
Raven262 |
Tell them, lisac. |
| 19:34 |
AlexYst |
Hmm. If we can't speak, there's no sence in my being there. |
| 19:34 |
* AlexYst |
leaves |
| 19:34 |
calculon |
you should ask an admin in pv if you think you're legitimate |
| 19:34 |
lisac |
I don't think I can. |
| 19:34 |
Raven262 |
Me neither |
| 19:34 |
Raven262 |
Am i legitimate? |
| 19:34 |
AlexYst |
Legitimate for what? |
| 19:34 |
AlexYst |
Ha ha. |
| 19:34 |
calculon |
i don't know, are you a contributor ? |
| 19:35 |
* lisac |
is a contributor! |
| 19:35 |
Raven262 |
Me too then |
| 19:35 |
Raven262 |
I helped lisac, for some stuff |
| 19:35 |
Calinou |
I am a contributor! I changed floor friction to 1.8 from 2! |
| 19:35 |
AlexYst |
I hope to be once life settles down a bit. |
| 19:35 |
Raven262 |
Calinou, nice work |
| 19:36 |
Raven262 |
well, your contributors seem to be talking about everything except minetest :P |
| 19:36 |
lisac |
But, Raven262, Vampires are cool |
| 19:36 |
Raven262 |
Yes, lisac i know. |
| 19:36 |
AlexYst |
Huh. Some on the regulars list are just mod writers. I've got one I plan to release at some point, and a few others in the works. |
| 19:36 |
Raven262 |
But it is not minetest |
| 19:36 |
Raven262 |
I released some mods |
| 19:36 |
Raven262 |
Though i mostly do graphics |
| 19:37 |
Raven262 |
http://i.imgur.com/KbOPmSr.png |
| 19:37 |
AlexYst |
I just realised my mod needs to be updated to accommodate tin. I guess that drops my finished mod count back to zero. |
| 19:37 |
Raven262 |
^my latest work |
| 19:37 |
AlexYst |
Hmm. |
| 19:37 |
lisac |
Raven262 is a designer |
| 19:38 |
Raven262 |
:o |
| 19:38 |
Calinou |
you have good taste, sir |
| 19:38 |
lisac |
not of code, though. |
| 19:38 |
lisac |
Nice skybox, raven. |
| 19:38 |
Raven262 |
thanks |
| 19:38 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: That's a pretty sweet sky. Not sure what it is, but I like it. |
| 19:38 |
lisac |
I think you meant this, though: https://hydra-media.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/4/4b/Jug_kill_01.mp3 |
| 19:39 |
Raven262 |
I made that to replace the chaos mod's default sky, the creator of the mod seems to like it |
| 19:39 |
AlexYst |
The maze-like lines near the top are a nice touch. |
| 19:39 |
Raven262 |
:D |
| 19:39 |
Raven262 |
I thought people might not like them to be honest :D |
| 19:39 |
Raven262 |
but that is not my finest work |
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AlexYst |
I see why you might think that, as it looks like a totally bizarre design for a sky, but it has an epic feel to it. |
| 19:43 |
AlexYst |
lisac: Blocked by CloudFlare. |
| 19:43 |
Raven262 |
I consider this to be my finest work: http://i.imgur.com/oTDLgM3.png |
| 19:44 |
lisac |
AlexYst, Works fine for me |
| 19:44 |
Calinou |
hmm, how did you do that sky? |
| 19:44 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: What's that thing in the background? A mountain with a beam into the heavens? |
| 19:44 |
Raven262 |
Blender + gimp |
| 19:44 |
Raven262 |
A ringworld |
| 19:44 |
Raven262 |
Like halo |
| 19:45 |
Raven262 |
:D |
| 19:45 |
Raven262 |
I had to learn some basics of blender for that |
| 19:45 |
Raven262 |
and well i know most of the stuff in gimp, i experimented a lot |
| 19:45 |
AlexYst |
lisac: That's because CloudFlare selectively discriminates against some members of the Internet community but not others. Some peopel will get through just fine, but others won't. CloudFlare's a real pain. |
| 19:46 |
Calinou |
#OccupyCloudFlare |
| 19:46 |
Raven262 |
Red strikes again! |
| 19:46 |
AlexYst |
I don't know Halo. Is a ringworld a planet that's ring-shaped instead of spherical? |
| 19:46 |
Raven262 |
well |
| 19:47 |
Raven262 |
yes, it is ring shaped |
| 19:47 |
Raven262 |
with the terrain inwards |
| 19:47 |
Raven262 |
and it should be gigantic |
| 19:47 |
Raven262 |
wait i think i can get a screenshot on how it looks in blender |
| 19:48 |
AlexYst |
The terrain is only inwards, not all the way around? Strange. |
| 19:48 |
Raven262 |
well, gravity wouldn't allow it, right? |
| 19:48 |
Raven262 |
wanna try out the skybox? |
| 19:48 |
Raven262 |
that should make it more obvious |
| 19:49 |
AlexYst |
Gravity wouldn't allow a ring-shaped planet. But if it did, I'd expect terrain on the outside or all the way around. |
| 19:49 |
AlexYst |
Sure, I'd love to try it out. Thanks! |
| 19:49 |
Raven262 |
moment :D |
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| 19:51 |
GNU[BDC] |
hi |
| 19:51 |
AlexYst |
Hey GNU[BDC]! |
| 19:52 |
AlexYst |
I know what GNU is, but if you don't mind my asking, what is BDC? |
| 19:53 |
GNU[BDC] |
nothing special |
| 19:53 |
Hijiri |
bacterial data chip, ganoo is running on wetware |
| 19:54 |
AlexYst |
I can't honestly say I know what that means. |
| 19:54 |
Raven262 |
AlexYst, http://www.filedropper.com/skybox_1 |
| 19:55 |
Raven262 |
this is the third time i'm uploading this one xD |
| 19:55 |
Raven262 |
dunno how its not skybox_2 though |
| 19:56 |
AlexYst |
Maybe skybox, skybox_0, and skybox_1? |
| 19:56 |
Raven262 |
idk |
| 19:56 |
Raven262 |
but, no matter there it is :) |
| 19:56 |
* Raven262 |
now goes to try it out ... again |
| 19:57 |
* AlexYst |
toggles JavaScript back on so the download will work |
| 19:57 |
Raven262 |
lol |
| 19:58 |
AlexYst |
I can't wait until my school fixes their website. I have to disable JavaScript because of that *one* website. |
| 19:58 |
Raven262 |
That website must really be cancerous |
| 19:58 |
AlexYst |
And Firefox removed the old easy toggle. Gotta' go into <about:config> for that now. |
| 19:59 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: Yeah, it's cost me a lot of time and a few points. |
| 19:59 |
Raven262 |
We don't yet use websites so much in our schools, at least my school doesn't. |
| 20:00 |
AlexYst |
My school's purely online. |
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| 20:01 |
Raven262 |
So, you don't "go" to school then? |
| 20:01 |
Raven262 |
You just learn via the internet? |
| 20:03 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: Right. |
| 20:03 |
Raven262 |
Oo |
| 20:03 |
Raven262 |
Well, good for you i guess, but i prefer going to school myself :P |
| 20:03 |
AlexYst |
THat sky's pretty sweet. My only complaint is that it's identical in the day and at night. At night, the bright sky looks strange with the dark ground. |
| 20:04 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: Yeah, but I save tonnes of money. Only $100 USD per course, as opposed to thousands. |
| 20:04 |
Raven262 |
Yeah, i know that, it has given me nightmares, it is unfixable whatsoever xD |
| 20:04 |
Raven262 |
Really? |
| 20:04 |
AlexYst |
Ah, I know that feeling. |
| 20:04 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: Yeah. |
| 20:04 |
Raven262 |
I don't have that option here :P |
| 20:05 |
Raven262 |
It would be actually better if i did |
| 20:06 |
Raven262 |
The skybox can be made to change (Yes i did try to make that), it takes some 6 times more work to make it so :P |
| 20:06 |
Raven262 |
And it would be broken too |
| 20:06 |
AlexYst |
Why don't you not have that option? At an online university, you can reach the school no matter where you are. |
| 20:06 |
Raven262 |
Since i would have to make the ring rotate around that star, and that would take lots of frames. |
| 20:06 |
AlexYst |
Ah, I see. |
| 20:07 |
Raven262 |
I don't know if i can do that here |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
I used to be homeschooled |
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Raven262 |
Well, i might check that out. |
| 20:08 |
AlexYst |
Huh. The star's kind of in the middle, so there shouldn't really be a night. Maybe that's the solution. Set the game to never be night. |
| 20:08 |
Raven262 |
The "original" halo rotates |
| 20:08 |
Raven262 |
It has to maintain orbit in order not to fall on the star it rotates around. |
| 20:09 |
Raven262 |
And then it also rotates around its central axis |
| 20:09 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: I don't know if you're interested, but it's <http://www.uopeople.edu/> if you decide to check it out. |
| 20:09 |
Raven262 |
both rotation affect day/night cycle. |
| 20:09 |
AlexYst |
Raven262: Okay, I get it. |
| 20:09 |
Raven262 |
Don't know if i can get a job with this. |
| 20:09 |
AlexYst |
That's a pretty strange planet. And a flexible one. |
| 20:09 |
Raven262 |
At least not here. |
| 20:10 |
Raven262 |
planet? xD |
| 20:10 |
* Raven262 |
goes to check some halo images |
| 20:10 |
AlexYst |
The ring world of this Halo game. |
| 20:10 |
Raven262 |
yeah |
| 20:10 |
Raven262 |
The first halo game is the only good one, i recommend playing it. |
| 20:10 |
slemonide |
The ring world had a special mechanism for the day/night shift. |
| 20:10 |
AlexYst |
I guess if it's looped around the sun, maybe it doesn't count as a planet? |
| 20:11 |
Raven262 |
I think it doesn't count as a planet |
| 20:11 |
AlexYst |
I don't really have any game systems in my home besides my laptop. It's pretty much Minetest and SuperTux, for me. |
| 20:11 |
slemonide |
There was an inner ring of smaller radius that created shadows. |
| 20:11 |
Raven262 |
If you can run minetest, you can run halo, i guarantee it :P |
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Raven262 |
smaller radius? |
| 20:12 |
Raven262 |
I thought there was only one ring |
| 20:12 |
slemonide |
Yes. |
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slemonide |
I am talking about the Ring World. |
| 20:12 |
slemonide |
Not Halo. |
| 20:12 |
Raven262 |
Ah |
| 20:12 |
* Raven262 |
has no idea about the "ringworld" |
| 20:12 |
* Raven262 |
has to check it out |
| 20:13 |
* Raven262 |
has to read this |
| 20:13 |
Raven262 |
This ringworld is much larger than halo one |
| 20:13 |
slemonide |
Yes. |
| 20:14 |
slemonide |
Also, it's unstable. |
| 20:14 |
Raven262 |
Unstable? |
| 20:14 |
slemonide |
Yes. |
| 20:14 |
slemonide |
It's a ring around a star. |
| 20:14 |
Raven262 |
yes, i see |
| 20:14 |
AlexYst |
It seems like any ring-shaped world like this would be unstable. |
| 20:14 |
Raven262 |
I though centrifugal force would keep it from getting crushed by star's gravity |
| 20:14 |
slemonide |
Well, if it orbits the star then everything is ok. |
| 20:15 |
slemonide |
But if the center of the ring is at the star, then it's unstable. |
| 20:17 |
Raven262 |
It could never be made. Only the finished ring, rotating at a certain speed would be stable. |
| 20:18 |
Raven262 |
At least i think so. |
| 20:20 |
Raven262 |
I just noticed that the whole halo is actually based on this ringworld thing. |
| 20:20 |
Raven262 |
-1 for unoriginality to microsoft. |
| 20:21 |
AlexYst |
Microsoft? Actually coming up with an original idea? That's hilarious. They'd never do that. |
| 20:21 |
Raven262 |
Yeah, now i get it. |
| 20:22 |
Raven262 |
Halo was the only microsoft's game that i liked. |
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Raven262 |
I could make an even better ringworld in blender, if i rendered the whole thing in blender. |
| 20:23 |
Raven262 |
Rather than using gimp to add lightning. |
| 20:23 |
* Raven262 |
doesn't know how to use blender very well. |
| 20:24 |
TestyRabbit |
Hey guys, I'm looking to register a node and I was wondering what the field was for the node's hardness? I cant find it |
| 20:24 |
Raven262 |
Groups? |
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Raven262 |
https://rubenwardy.com/minetest_modding_book/chapters/nodes_items_crafting.html |
| 20:25 |
Raven262 |
That should cover it |
| 20:25 |
TestyRabbit |
ok thanks |
| 20:43 |
AlexYst |
I swear, I think that server is sending me zero-byte responses. |
| 20:43 |
AlexYst |
I've yet to figure out *why* though. |
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