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08:28 red-001 does anyone use windows for hosting?
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08:52 Calinou hooray https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5055
09:13 Bukki Anyone knows how rankings in Capture the Flag are calculated?
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09:50 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Kid Inventors' Day! 😃 💡
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10:10 kaeza ~karma
10:10 ShadowBot kaeza: Highest karma: "c" (5), "<luke4378> " (1), and "So love has put out an xml file with autocomplete for Notepad" (1).  Lowest karma: "<JadenWolf> --." (-6), "<GreenDimond> --does not compute" (-2), and "<Lexiiboo25> --_" (-2).
10:10 kaeza O.o
10:12 agaran :) nice carma.. or rather.. FAST one
10:12 kaeza ~karma c
10:12 ShadowBot kaeza: Karma for "c" has been increased 6 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 5.
10:13 kaeza oh
10:13 kaeza that took too long sink in, heh
10:14 kaeza greetings, agaran
10:15 kaeza >learning graphics design
10:15 kaeza >must use CorelDraw
10:16 kaeza why
10:16 kaeza that program is utterly idiotic
10:16 agaran hi Kaeza, because there are 2 fighting camps, corel users and adobe users;)
10:17 VanessaE while us gimp+blender users just sit back, munch on popcorn, and watch the carnage ;)
10:18 agaran VanessaE: you forgot inkscape;)
10:18 kaeza I just cheat by exporting to SVG, importing in Inkscape, do the work, then erpot/import into CD
10:18 kaeza export*
10:18 VanessaE that too :D
10:19 kaeza really, when it doesn't crash, it fucks up your work
10:21 kaeza the interface is a mess, boolean ops don't work as expected half the time, randomly decides to disable the save and/or copy commands, ...
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10:23 kaeza apparently, specifying transparency is "black magic" judging from its location in the UI
10:24 kaeza okay /rant
10:25 VanessaE heh
10:26 kaeza that's the only thing "keeping" me on Windows right now
10:27 kaeza the WineHQ has it marked as crap :/
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10:32 agaran kaeza: tried recent enough wine?
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14:41 MinetestBot [git] Ezhh -> minetest/minetest: Improve priv descriptions (#5047) d218baa https://git.io/vM693 (2017-01-17T14:41:25Z)
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16:21 red-001 does anyone use windows for hosting?
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16:30 * Taose looks at Red
16:31 Taose You should rephrase that
16:31 Taose "Who needs educating about which server os to us"
16:31 Taose use*
16:32 rdococ agreed
16:32 * rdococ suggests a Linux distro
16:32 red-001 well there is a bug that makes it **really** easy to crash mt servers that run on windows
16:32 rdococ not surprised
16:33 Taose That'll need fixing >.<
16:33 Taose low priority though
16:33 red-001 ^
16:33 red-001 It seems no-one uses it for hosting anyway
16:34 Taose Some of the smaller ones might
16:35 red-001 well there are at least two ways to fix it
16:35 red-001 one of them can even be done in lua
16:35 Taose 1. Migrate to Linux
16:35 Taose 2. Uninstall windows
16:35 agaran isn't step2 contained in step 1?
16:35 rdococ heh
16:35 sfan5 red-001: quite some people use windows for server hosting
16:35 rdococ agaran: well, even Mac OS would be better than Windows
16:35 red-001 3. configure x-server
16:36 rdococ oh
16:36 rdococ I misunderstood :p
16:36 agaran rdococ: straw and clay build 'server' would be more stable.. even before it dries properly
16:36 red-001 4. buy hosting
16:37 sfan5 red-001: nobody should be using a GUI on their server
16:37 red-001 true
16:37 red-001 linux is pretty good for hosting
16:37 red-001 at least compare to windows and osx
16:38 KaadmY use this stuff http://www.tinycorelinux.net/
16:38 KaadmY it vewwy good
16:39 red-001 Minux 3 sounds really interesting
16:39 red-001 An OS that could run for a very long time without crashing
16:40 KaadmY arch linux is stable
16:40 KaadmY used it for several months now, never crashed yet
16:41 KaadmY but again i've never had linux ever crash outside of using unsupported opengl drivers
16:41 red-001 well thats the thing with a design like Minux 3 the system could easy recover from the graphics driver crashing
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17:01 Taose Haven't met a linux distribution that can't be recovered from a graphics driver crashing
17:01 Taose Though you do need to know what you're doing.
17:02 Taose Having your desktop completely crash and you need to use certain key combinations to get it back up and running is fun
17:02 Taose (without restarting the machine, which would have been so much easier had I had that option)
17:03 Taose That wasn't entirely Linux fault though, that was mine, I was screwing with something or other.
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17:23 Taose That didn't look like an advertisement for the new power ranger movie at all.
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18:06 MinetestBot [git] dmoerner -> minetest/minetestmapper: Write manpage based on README. 07c371f https://git.io/vMi8L (2017-01-17T18:05:15Z)
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18:49 MinetestBot [git] sapier at gmx dot net -> minetest/minetest: Fix typo in alias for deprecated settexturemod 51746ca https://git.io/vMiaO (2017-01-17T18:41:52Z)
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19:02 KaadmY argh the forum has a 64x64 max avatar size
19:03 Taose Tis okay
19:03 Taose scale your avatar down :D
19:05 Krock It's not an image hoster, so 64x64 pixels are by far enough for an avatar
19:05 Krock enough to identify you
19:06 * Taose shrugs
19:06 * Taose wonders why not 16x16 :D
19:07 Krock depending on what you would like to use, it might be a bit difficult to see details there
19:08 Taose Minetest seems to manage
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20:47 IhrFussel Why must sed be so inconsistent with escaping in regular expressions x.x It took me a whole hour to figure out that [ ] should not be escaped while { } have to
20:48 sfan5 because the default mode of sed is not real regular expressions
20:51 IhrFussel sfan5, do you mean the r option?
20:52 sfan5 yes
20:52 IhrFussel Okay will keep that in mind
20:56 IhrFussel HELP: I can't grep my debug.txt anymore...it only searches till Jan 15 and then it says at the bottom "found matches in binary code" =(
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20:57 sfan5 add -a
20:58 IhrFussel sfan5, wow that option fixed it
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20:58 red-001 almost 800 open issues
20:59 IhrFussel So is my debug.txt corrupted then?? It worked before without -a
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21:00 Taose That's because some twit thinks that Light on snow not being smoothed matters >_>
21:00 Taose I mean c'mon -_-
21:00 Taose That's not an issue, that's an aesthetic choice
21:01 sfan5 IhrFussel: no, it just contains a non-ASCII character somewhere
21:02 Taose (also Marku, I don't really think you're a twit)
21:02 IhrFussel Ah okay good =)
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21:14 passant hi there, i am currently working on mapgen v7 settings. i expected a strange stone desert which does not look right to me - i wonder if someone has a hint what can cause this - sadly minetest doesn't provide a log entry about this...
21:14 Taose Sure it's not the recently added Silver Desert?
21:15 Taose I think it's a newly added biome
21:15 Taose paramat might be able to tell you more
21:17 passant Taose, no, this is working
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21:19 passant and i am also quite sure that those stone deserts doesn't appear with my privious settings - but i already changes a bunch so reverse checking is nearly impossible and the stone deserts not that often
21:19 passant *changed
21:19 Taose Did you update?
21:19 passant not the last week
21:20 Taose Dunno then >.<
21:20 passant (running on dev anyway)
21:20 Taose << not an expert at any rate
21:20 passant not a problem, i think this is hard to tell anyway...
21:25 passant hmm even nothing notable in verbose mode
21:29 passant maybe it is just a strange sideefeect or even wanted and just to see this way because i made everything so large :D
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21:37 IhrFussel One of my players got disconnected and cant join since...te error message they get is rather weird: https://imgur.com/gallery/kimoR
21:38 Taose Are you both using the same version?
21:38 Taose say v0.4.15
21:39 Taose The error basically says that his client is to new for your server
21:40 passant by the way, is it possible to blend biome-top borders? means each biome got a max Y which looks kinda odd on mountains
21:40 IhrFussel The player is using 0.4.14 on Android
21:40 Taose and you're using?
21:40 IhrFussel My server is 0.4.15-dev
21:40 Taose ...
21:40 Taose you're using an unstable version...
21:41 sfan5 that's usually not a problem
21:41 IhrFussel Since when is that wrong?
21:41 Taose Nope, but it's not good practice.
21:41 sfan5 have they tried to reboot their device?
21:41 Taose ^
21:41 sfan5 i have observed this sometimes happening and it just solved itself
21:41 Taose It could be that Android updated his version (android is like that)
21:42 sfan5 also that's definitely not android, what's that mouse cursor doing there?
21:42 Taose (Generally for Gameplay, you would have a stable server and a stable client *in theory*)
21:43 red-001 note the "in theory"
21:43 Taose Well I wrote it
21:44 Taose :)
21:44 Taose I'm just saying that using a dev server for game play is bad practice.
21:44 red-001 well most servers do that
21:46 red-001 huh a lot of servers are still using 0.4.14
21:47 red-001 or "0.4.14-BiteMe" whatever that is
21:47 passant i am on dev with my servers over two years now without expecting problems from that
21:49 sofar you likely want to be on -dev with minetest on your server
21:49 red-001 so why exactly do some many servers use the version string of "0.4.14-BiteMe"?
21:49 sofar but keep `minetest_game` at releases
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21:49 sfan5 red-001: nobody knows
21:49 IhrFussel sfan5, 2 players were experiencing that issue...one on windows 0.4.15 and the other on Android 0.4.14 ... I decided to restart the server and its fixed
21:50 sfan5 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
21:50 red-001 lol
21:51 IhrFussel But i cannot always restart the server only because 1 or 2 players are having problems :/
21:51 Taose Passant, it's because Minetest is awesome. Generally dev versions are quite buggy. Not Minetest.
21:51 red-001 I think minetest is uniformly buggy
21:52 Taose >.> when did Minetest last crash and burn for you?
21:52 red-001 today
21:52 red-001 but I did cause it on propose
21:52 Taose XD
21:52 Taose good point, those names I assume?
21:53 Taose ...
21:53 red-001 yes
21:53 Taose but you use windows
21:53 Taose so you don't count
21:53 red-001 in general It happens every so often
21:53 Taose (I'm not a linux elitest at all)
21:53 Taose hmm
21:53 red-001 I will take your word on that
21:54 Taose Maybe I just don't play long enough, no crashing and burning for me
21:54 red-001 It is usually it is running out of memory or something like that
21:55 red-001 that or the good old 0xc0000005
21:55 IhrFussel WTH...dmesg shows me an OOM-killer entry for "minetestserver"...
21:56 agaran that would mean memleak
21:56 IhrFussel The server was only running for 20 minutes at that time...i woner what could cause 4GB RAM usage within that time
21:58 IhrFussel agaran, i added 3 mods recently: moretrees, nether, biome_lib hmm
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21:58 agaran I'd cut temporarly nether and see if it again does that
21:58 red-001 travis seems awfully slow today
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21:59 agaran generation of map could make leaks
21:59 passant what i still wonder is why my mountains getting bigger but not really higher...
21:59 agaran nether uses all lua I think..
21:59 red-001 I think most of the unstable parts of minetest are in the client
22:03 red-001 so why exactly doesn't minetest use a database for player files?
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22:04 Taose Unnecessary?
22:05 red-001 have you seen the amount of player files you get when you run a server?
22:06 Taose No >.>
22:06 IhrFussel Many mods rely on them...for example to check if a player exists (not if the player is online)
22:06 Taose because my vpn hates minetest
22:06 Taose (it hates all self hosting things)
22:06 sfan5 IhrFussel: they those mods are doing something very very wrong
22:06 red-001 well I'm not sure what to say.....
22:06 sfan5 there are way easier ways to check for players
22:06 sfan5 and player files are not guaranteed to be named after the place it seems
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22:07 IhrFussel sfan5, i know there is some function to fetch the auth file but i never used it
22:08 rubenwardy minetest.get_auth_handler():get_auth(player_name)    is the current best way I believe
22:08 rubenwardy maybe we should add minetest.player_exist to make it less hacky / undocumented
22:09 IhrFussel Good idea
22:09 red-001 #4942?
22:09 passant hmm, looks like passant needs to stuck on try&fail&forum
22:11 red-001 ?
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22:23 Fervi Hello, can somebody test for me something?
22:23 Fervi LANG=pl_PL.utf8 minetest
22:23 Fervi Do you have words?
22:24 red-001 so set minetest to polish?
22:24 Fervi yep
22:24 Fixer died in abbyss
22:24 Fervi i don't have any words, but when i set english language - it works
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22:27 red-001 ohh I don't have gettexted complied
22:28 red-001 It's working normally
22:28 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5064
22:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Add minetest.player_exists() by rubenwardy · Pull Request #5064 · minetest/minetest · GitHub
22:28 Fervi in polish version red-001?
22:28 Fervi or english?
22:28 red-001 polish
22:29 Fervi ok, thanks
22:29 red-001 is it not working for you?
22:29 Fervi i just don't have text in minetest on polish version
22:29 red-001 huh
22:29 Fervi http://meshnet-users.tk/paste/p/gun.png
22:30 red-001 maybe your computer doesn't have the right fonts?
22:30 Fervi maybe but which one
22:30 Fervi :D
22:31 red-001 but polish is working the title...
22:31 red-001 but polish is working in the title...
22:31 red-001 werid
22:31 Fervi yep; i think it's debian bug
22:31 Fervi * Use DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf instead of just DroidSansFallback.ttf.     (Closes: #849360)
22:32 red-001 could you try and build from source?
22:32 Fervi yep, but i can also update to sid version
22:32 red-001 see http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest
22:35 Fervi ok, give me a sec
22:40 Fervi red-001; works
22:40 Fervi maybe except polish signs, but it is probably font bug
22:42 progysm hm, I had to simlinks another fun for that bug
22:42 progysm *font
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22:58 adrie tht's a lot of ppl
22:58 Taose Yep
22:58 Taose (Enfaru)
22:58 adrie I see
22:58 Taose Most of these people are contributors to the code and or respective mods
22:58 adrie there's a nyan cat block
22:58 adrie I approve of this game.
22:59 Taose (Just giving an introduction to a potential new addict)
22:59 adrie hmm
22:59 adrie yeah I always wonder how this many people find obscure things like this, but I might just be boring and basic
23:00 rubenwardy hello adrie and welcome o/
23:00 Taose Myself, I found Minetest through my OS's repository
23:00 Taose how everyone else found it...
23:00 adrie hi
23:01 adrie gnna go back to reading factbooks, I wanna contribute somehow
23:01 Taose factbooks being part of the literary thing we do over at Nationstates
23:01 Taose >.> <.<
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23:11 emunand i found minetest while looking around for free minecraft clones in 2011
23:11 emunand then i forgot about it
23:11 emunand and found it again while searching the same thing in 2015
23:11 Taose >.<
23:12 emunand .. -. -.. . . -..
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23:17 Benrob0329[m] Hello
23:18 red-001 hi
23:19 emunand hey
23:19 red-001 you new?
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23:20 Benrob0329[m] Me, or him?
23:22 red-001 you
23:22 Benrob0329[m] Nah, just never youned the IRC chat before
23:22 Benrob0329[m] *joined
23:29 Benrob0329[m] I've actually been playing Minetest for a couple years now at least
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23:55 DI3HARD139 Maybe someone around here can answer this question. Whats the limits on the Free plan for GitHub?
23:55 DI3HARD139 specifically in the # of repositories
23:55 Benrob0329[m] 100 mb per file limit
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23:55 Benrob0329[m] and no clodes repos
23:55 Benrob0329[m] outside of that, nothing that i know of
23:56 DI3HARD139 ok
23:56 DI3HARD139 thanks
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23:57 emunand alright then
23:57 emunand does anyone here run linux with encryption?

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