Time Nick Message 08:28 red-001 does anyone use windows for hosting? 08:52 Calinou hooray https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5055 09:13 Bukki Anyone knows how rankings in Capture the Flag are calculated? 09:50 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Tuesday, and happy Kid Inventors' Day! ðŸ˜ƒ ðŸ’¡ 10:10 kaeza ~karma 10:10 ShadowBot kaeza: Highest karma: "c" (5), " " (1), and "So love has put out an xml file with autocomplete for Notepad" (1). Lowest karma: " --." (-6), " --does not compute" (-2), and " --_" (-2). 10:10 kaeza O.o 10:12 agaran :) nice carma.. or rather.. FAST one 10:12 kaeza ~karma c 10:12 ShadowBot kaeza: Karma for "c" has been increased 6 times and decreased 1 time for a total karma of 5. 10:13 kaeza oh 10:13 kaeza that took too long sink in, heh 10:14 kaeza greetings, agaran 10:15 kaeza >learning graphics design 10:15 kaeza >must use CorelDraw 10:16 kaeza why 10:16 kaeza that program is utterly idiotic 10:16 agaran hi Kaeza, because there are 2 fighting camps, corel users and adobe users;) 10:17 VanessaE while us gimp+blender users just sit back, munch on popcorn, and watch the carnage ;) 10:18 agaran VanessaE: you forgot inkscape;) 10:18 kaeza I just cheat by exporting to SVG, importing in Inkscape, do the work, then erpot/import into CD 10:18 kaeza export* 10:18 VanessaE that too :D 10:19 kaeza really, when it doesn't crash, it fucks up your work 10:21 kaeza the interface is a mess, boolean ops don't work as expected half the time, randomly decides to disable the save and/or copy commands, ... 10:23 kaeza apparently, specifying transparency is "black magic" judging from its location in the UI 10:24 kaeza okay /rant 10:25 VanessaE heh 10:26 kaeza that's the only thing "keeping" me on Windows right now 10:27 kaeza the WineHQ has it marked as crap :/ 10:32 agaran kaeza: tried recent enough wine? 14:41 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Ezhh -> 03minetest/minetest: Improve priv descriptions (#5047) 13d218baa https://git.io/vM693 (152017-01-17T14:41:25Z) 16:21 red-001 does anyone use windows for hosting? 16:30 * Taose looks at Red 16:31 Taose You should rephrase that 16:31 Taose "Who needs educating about which server os to us" 16:31 Taose use* 16:32 rdococ agreed 16:32 * rdococ suggests a Linux distro 16:32 red-001 well there is a bug that makes it **really** easy to crash mt servers that run on windows 16:32 rdococ not surprised 16:33 Taose That'll need fixing >.< 16:33 Taose low priority though 16:33 red-001 ^ 16:33 red-001 It seems no-one uses it for hosting anyway 16:34 Taose Some of the smaller ones might 16:35 red-001 well there are at least two ways to fix it 16:35 red-001 one of them can even be done in lua 16:35 Taose 1. Migrate to Linux 16:35 Taose 2. Uninstall windows 16:35 agaran isn't step2 contained in step 1? 16:35 rdococ heh 16:35 sfan5 red-001: quite some people use windows for server hosting 16:35 rdococ agaran: well, even Mac OS would be better than Windows 16:35 red-001 3. configure x-server 16:36 rdococ oh 16:36 rdococ I misunderstood :p 16:36 agaran rdococ: straw and clay build 'server' would be more stable.. even before it dries properly 16:36 red-001 4. buy hosting 16:37 sfan5 red-001: nobody should be using a GUI on their server 16:37 red-001 true 16:37 red-001 linux is pretty good for hosting 16:37 red-001 at least compare to windows and osx 16:38 KaadmY use this stuff http://www.tinycorelinux.net/ 16:38 KaadmY it vewwy good 16:39 red-001 Minux 3 sounds really interesting 16:39 red-001 An OS that could run for a very long time without crashing 16:40 KaadmY arch linux is stable 16:40 KaadmY used it for several months now, never crashed yet 16:41 KaadmY but again i've never had linux ever crash outside of using unsupported opengl drivers 16:41 red-001 well thats the thing with a design like Minux 3 the system could easy recover from the graphics driver crashing 17:01 Taose Haven't met a linux distribution that can't be recovered from a graphics driver crashing 17:01 Taose Though you do need to know what you're doing. 17:02 Taose Having your desktop completely crash and you need to use certain key combinations to get it back up and running is fun 17:02 Taose (without restarting the machine, which would have been so much easier had I had that option) 17:03 Taose That wasn't entirely Linux fault though, that was mine, I was screwing with something or other. 17:23 Taose That didn't look like an advertisement for the new power ranger movie at all. 18:06 MinetestBot 02[git] 04dmoerner -> 03minetest/minetestmapper: Write manpage based on README. 1307c371f https://git.io/vMi8L (152017-01-17T18:05:15Z) 18:49 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sapier at gmx dot net -> 03minetest/minetest: Fix typo in alias for deprecated settexturemod 1351746ca https://git.io/vMiaO (152017-01-17T18:41:52Z) 19:02 KaadmY argh the forum has a 64x64 max avatar size 19:03 Taose Tis okay 19:03 Taose scale your avatar down :D 19:05 Krock It's not an image hoster, so 64x64 pixels are by far enough for an avatar 19:05 Krock enough to identify you 19:06 * Taose shrugs 19:06 * Taose wonders why not 16x16 :D 19:07 Krock depending on what you would like to use, it might be a bit difficult to see details there 19:08 Taose Minetest seems to manage 20:47 IhrFussel Why must sed be so inconsistent with escaping in regular expressions x.x It took me a whole hour to figure out that [ ] should not be escaped while { } have to 20:48 sfan5 because the default mode of sed is not real regular expressions 20:51 IhrFussel sfan5, do you mean the r option? 20:52 sfan5 yes 20:52 IhrFussel Okay will keep that in mind 20:56 IhrFussel HELP: I can't grep my debug.txt anymore...it only searches till Jan 15 and then it says at the bottom "found matches in binary code" =( 20:57 sfan5 add -a 20:58 IhrFussel sfan5, wow that option fixed it 20:58 red-001 almost 800 open issues 20:59 IhrFussel So is my debug.txt corrupted then?? It worked before without -a 21:00 Taose That's because some twit thinks that Light on snow not being smoothed matters >_> 21:00 Taose I mean c'mon -_- 21:00 Taose That's not an issue, that's an aesthetic choice 21:01 sfan5 IhrFussel: no, it just contains a non-ASCII character somewhere 21:02 Taose (also Marku, I don't really think you're a twit) 21:02 IhrFussel Ah okay good =) 21:14 passant hi there, i am currently working on mapgen v7 settings. i expected a strange stone desert which does not look right to me - i wonder if someone has a hint what can cause this - sadly minetest doesn't provide a log entry about this... 21:14 Taose Sure it's not the recently added Silver Desert? 21:15 Taose I think it's a newly added biome 21:15 Taose paramat might be able to tell you more 21:17 passant Taose, no, this is working 21:19 passant and i am also quite sure that those stone deserts doesn't appear with my privious settings - but i already changes a bunch so reverse checking is nearly impossible and the stone deserts not that often 21:19 passant *changed 21:19 Taose Did you update? 21:19 passant not the last week 21:20 Taose Dunno then >.< 21:20 passant (running on dev anyway) 21:20 Taose << not an expert at any rate 21:20 passant not a problem, i think this is hard to tell anyway... 21:25 passant hmm even nothing notable in verbose mode 21:29 passant maybe it is just a strange sideefeect or even wanted and just to see this way because i made everything so large :D 21:37 IhrFussel One of my players got disconnected and cant join since...te error message they get is rather weird: https://imgur.com/gallery/kimoR 21:38 Taose Are you both using the same version? 21:38 Taose say v0.4.15 21:39 Taose The error basically says that his client is to new for your server 21:40 passant by the way, is it possible to blend biome-top borders? means each biome got a max Y which looks kinda odd on mountains 21:40 IhrFussel The player is using 0.4.14 on Android 21:40 Taose and you're using? 21:40 IhrFussel My server is 0.4.15-dev 21:40 Taose ... 21:40 Taose you're using an unstable version... 21:41 sfan5 that's usually not a problem 21:41 IhrFussel Since when is that wrong? 21:41 Taose Nope, but it's not good practice. 21:41 sfan5 have they tried to reboot their device? 21:41 Taose ^ 21:41 sfan5 i have observed this sometimes happening and it just solved itself 21:41 Taose It could be that Android updated his version (android is like that) 21:42 sfan5 also that's definitely not android, what's that mouse cursor doing there? 21:42 Taose (Generally for Gameplay, you would have a stable server and a stable client *in theory*) 21:43 red-001 note the "in theory" 21:43 Taose Well I wrote it 21:44 Taose :) 21:44 Taose I'm just saying that using a dev server for game play is bad practice. 21:44 red-001 well most servers do that 21:46 red-001 huh a lot of servers are still using 0.4.14 21:47 red-001 or "0.4.14-BiteMe" whatever that is 21:47 passant i am on dev with my servers over two years now without expecting problems from that 21:49 sofar you likely want to be on -dev with minetest on your server 21:49 red-001 so why exactly do some many servers use the version string of "0.4.14-BiteMe"? 21:49 sofar but keep `minetest_game` at releases 21:49 sfan5 red-001: nobody knows 21:49 IhrFussel sfan5, 2 players were experiencing that issue...one on windows 0.4.15 and the other on Android 0.4.14 ... I decided to restart the server and its fixed 21:50 sfan5 Â¯\_(ãƒ„)_/Â¯ 21:50 red-001 lol 21:51 IhrFussel But i cannot always restart the server only because 1 or 2 players are having problems :/ 21:51 Taose Passant, it's because Minetest is awesome. Generally dev versions are quite buggy. Not Minetest. 21:51 red-001 I think minetest is uniformly buggy 21:52 Taose >.> when did Minetest last crash and burn for you? 21:52 red-001 today 21:52 red-001 but I did cause it on propose 21:52 Taose XD 21:52 Taose good point, those names I assume? 21:53 Taose ... 21:53 red-001 yes 21:53 Taose but you use windows 21:53 Taose so you don't count 21:53 red-001 in general It happens every so often 21:53 Taose (I'm not a linux elitest at all) 21:53 Taose hmm 21:53 red-001 I will take your word on that 21:54 Taose Maybe I just don't play long enough, no crashing and burning for me 21:54 red-001 It is usually it is running out of memory or something like that 21:55 red-001 that or the good old 0xc0000005 21:55 IhrFussel WTH...dmesg shows me an OOM-killer entry for "minetestserver"... 21:56 agaran that would mean memleak 21:56 IhrFussel The server was only running for 20 minutes at that time...i woner what could cause 4GB RAM usage within that time 21:58 IhrFussel agaran, i added 3 mods recently: moretrees, nether, biome_lib hmm 21:58 agaran I'd cut temporarly nether and see if it again does that 21:58 red-001 travis seems awfully slow today 21:59 agaran generation of map could make leaks 21:59 passant what i still wonder is why my mountains getting bigger but not really higher... 21:59 agaran nether uses all lua I think.. 21:59 red-001 I think most of the unstable parts of minetest are in the client 22:03 red-001 so why exactly doesn't minetest use a database for player files? 22:04 Taose Unnecessary? 22:05 red-001 have you seen the amount of player files you get when you run a server? 22:06 Taose No >.> 22:06 IhrFussel Many mods rely on them...for example to check if a player exists (not if the player is online) 22:06 Taose because my vpn hates minetest 22:06 Taose (it hates all self hosting things) 22:06 sfan5 IhrFussel: they those mods are doing something very very wrong 22:06 red-001 well I'm not sure what to say..... 22:06 sfan5 there are way easier ways to check for players 22:06 sfan5 and player files are not guaranteed to be named after the place it seems 22:07 IhrFussel sfan5, i know there is some function to fetch the auth file but i never used it 22:08 rubenwardy minetest.get_auth_handler():get_auth(player_name) is the current best way I believe 22:08 rubenwardy maybe we should add minetest.player_exist to make it less hacky / undocumented 22:09 IhrFussel Good idea 22:09 red-001 #4942? 22:09 passant hmm, looks like passant needs to stuck on try&fail&forum 22:11 red-001 ? 22:23 Fervi Hello, can somebody test for me something? 22:23 Fervi LANG=pl_PL.utf8 minetest 22:23 Fervi Do you have words? 22:24 red-001 so set minetest to polish? 22:24 Fervi yep 22:24 Fixer died in abbyss 22:24 Fervi i don't have any words, but when i set english language - it works 22:27 red-001 ohh I don't have gettexted complied 22:28 red-001 It's working normally 22:28 rubenwardy !title https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/5064 22:28 MinetestBot rubenwardy: Add minetest.player_exists() by rubenwardy Â· Pull Request #5064 Â· minetest/minetest Â· GitHub 22:28 Fervi in polish version red-001? 22:28 Fervi or english? 22:28 red-001 polish 22:29 Fervi ok, thanks 22:29 red-001 is it not working for you? 22:29 Fervi i just don't have text in minetest on polish version 22:29 red-001 huh 22:29 Fervi http://meshnet-users.tk/paste/p/gun.png 22:30 red-001 maybe your computer doesn't have the right fonts? 22:30 Fervi maybe but which one 22:30 Fervi :D 22:31 red-001 but polish is working the title... 22:31 red-001 but polish is working in the title... 22:31 red-001 werid 22:31 Fervi yep; i think it's debian bug 22:31 Fervi * Use DroidSansFallbackFull.ttf instead of just DroidSansFallback.ttf. (Closes: #849360) 22:32 red-001 could you try and build from source? 22:32 Fervi yep, but i can also update to sid version 22:32 red-001 see http://dev.minetest.net/Compiling_Minetest 22:35 Fervi ok, give me a sec 22:40 Fervi red-001; works 22:40 Fervi maybe except polish signs, but it is probably font bug 22:42 progysm hm, I had to simlinks another fun for that bug 22:42 progysm *font 22:58 adrie tht's a lot of ppl 22:58 Taose Yep 22:58 Taose (Enfaru) 22:58 adrie I see 22:58 Taose Most of these people are contributors to the code and or respective mods 22:58 adrie there's a nyan cat block 22:58 adrie I approve of this game. 22:59 Taose (Just giving an introduction to a potential new addict) 22:59 adrie hmm 22:59 adrie yeah I always wonder how this many people find obscure things like this, but I might just be boring and basic 23:00 rubenwardy hello adrie and welcome o/ 23:00 Taose Myself, I found Minetest through my OS's repository 23:00 Taose how everyone else found it... 23:00 adrie hi 23:01 adrie gnna go back to reading factbooks, I wanna contribute somehow 23:01 Taose factbooks being part of the literary thing we do over at Nationstates 23:01 Taose >.> <.< 23:11 emunand i found minetest while looking around for free minecraft clones in 2011 23:11 emunand then i forgot about it 23:11 emunand and found it again while searching the same thing in 2015 23:11 Taose >.< 23:12 emunand .. -. -.. . . -.. 23:17 Benrob0329[m] Hello 23:18 red-001 hi 23:19 emunand hey 23:19 red-001 you new? 23:20 Benrob0329[m] Me, or him? 23:22 red-001 you 23:22 Benrob0329[m] Nah, just never youned the IRC chat before 23:22 Benrob0329[m] *joined 23:29 Benrob0329[m] I've actually been playing Minetest for a couple years now at least 23:55 DI3HARD139 Maybe someone around here can answer this question. Whats the limits on the Free plan for GitHub? 23:55 DI3HARD139 specifically in the # of repositories 23:55 Benrob0329[m] 100 mb per file limit 23:55 Benrob0329[m] and no clodes repos 23:55 Benrob0329[m] outside of that, nothing that i know of 23:56 DI3HARD139 ok 23:56 DI3HARD139 thanks 23:57 emunand alright then 23:57 emunand does anyone here run linux with encryption?