Time |
Nick |
Message |
00:00 |
octacian |
running git pull... &&... won't work. do "cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc)" (without "s) |
00:00 |
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00:01 |
GreenDimond |
hm. |
00:01 |
GreenDimond |
it seems it worked but.... |
00:01 |
GreenDimond |
idk what the older daily ver was |
00:01 |
GreenDimond |
so idk if it really updated |
00:01 |
as2j |
emunandPC: in lua? |
00:03 |
octacian |
GreenDimond: well, does the version you just updated to have skeleton keys? I doubt the one you had before did, so... |
00:03 |
GreenDimond |
no the one before did |
00:03 |
emunandPC |
what "in lua"? |
00:03 |
emunandPC |
oh you mean the command? |
00:03 |
emunandPC |
no it's run in bash |
00:04 |
as2j |
well i wonderd if i can script my player to walk around |
00:04 |
as2j |
then watch him do it ;) |
00:04 |
GreenDimond |
the one I updated from I got maybe a week ago? 2 weeks? |
00:04 |
emunandPC |
as2j: i don't think it would be possible |
00:04 |
as2j |
ok |
00:04 |
emunandPC |
as2j: just run a dedicated server and connect to it |
00:04 |
as2j |
still have to find my way around first time with such a game |
00:04 |
as2j |
i am alrady at a server |
00:04 |
as2j |
when i fly, how to i get back to earth? ;) |
00:05 |
emunandPC |
most likely you will have to do /spawn |
00:05 |
emunandPC |
or something else |
00:05 |
octacian |
GreenDimond: ok, well. Considering that you last updated such a short time ago, I wouldn't worry about whether it updated or not at this point. Cause unless it gave you and error, there's about a 99% chance that it did. |
00:05 |
GreenDimond |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds says latest is 5223 but my ver isnt even a 4 dig. #. |
00:05 |
GreenDimond |
(latest ver) |
00:07 |
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00:07 |
octacian |
AFAIK the version numbers there are entirely different. |
00:08 |
octacian |
Let me update my version of MT, and I'll tell you what my version number is. |
00:08 |
as2j |
there are no enemies? |
00:08 |
GreenDimond |
kk |
00:09 |
octacian |
as2j: not yet. |
00:09 |
as2j |
octacian: meaning the game doesnt have it yet or i didnt play long enough? ;) |
00:10 |
GreenDimond |
probly wont have mobs 4 a while |
00:10 |
octacian |
the game doesn't have any yet. |
00:11 |
octacian |
and hopefully, when the game does get enemies, they are not "monsters." I'd prefer real creatures (they can still be enemies, e.g. lions). |
00:11 |
GreenDimond |
i like the new carts ") |
00:11 |
GreenDimond |
*:) |
00:12 |
as2j |
so if you play that game, what do you actually do? |
00:12 |
as2j |
just build stuff? |
00:12 |
GreenDimond |
or servers |
00:12 |
GreenDimond |
also get mods and do survival |
00:12 |
GreenDimond |
skelton keys are also nice |
00:13 |
GreenDimond |
tnt mechanics have also changed greatly |
00:14 |
octacian |
as2j: at this point, I guess so. Some servers have mobs through mods, but. |
00:14 |
emunandPC |
what deos AFAIK even mean? |
00:14 |
emunandPC |
"As Friendly As I Know" |
00:14 |
octacian |
GreenDimond: my MT version is: 5dc6198 |
00:14 |
GreenDimond |
As far as i know |
00:14 |
octacian |
emunandPC: As Far As I Know |
00:14 |
emunandPC |
oh |
00:15 |
GreenDimond |
i have 0614da3 |
00:15 |
emunandPC |
"Always Fetch Any Internet Knowers" |
00:15 |
GreenDimond |
your dev version yes? |
00:15 |
GreenDimond |
*daily |
00:15 |
octacian |
I wonder if the build numbers are different for each person. I wonder if a new build number is generated each time it is built. I see no other reason. |
00:16 |
garywhite |
5dc6198 = Nov 30, 2016 |
00:16 |
octacian |
garywhite: it = now. I just built it 60 seconds ago. |
00:16 |
octacian |
It's a build number, not commit hash. |
00:16 |
garywhite |
ohhhhhh ok |
00:17 |
GreenDimond |
hm. |
00:17 |
GreenDimond |
so i have no way of knowing. that is fine. |
00:18 |
GreenDimond |
if ruben replies then maybe ill get a better way of updating? idk :P |
00:18 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy is the one who told me how to build it :P |
00:18 |
as2j |
that tutorial zip really doesnt load ;? |
00:18 |
as2j |
:( |
00:19 |
octacian |
GreenDimond: I think you have the latest version. I believe the build number is generated as you build it. and, AFAIK, the method you used is the only way. |
00:19 |
GreenDimond |
kk |
00:20 |
GreenDimond |
well cya laterz |
00:20 |
GreenDimond |
thx 4 the help! |
00:20 |
octacian |
ok |
00:24 |
whitephoenix |
testjam starts day after tommorow |
00:24 |
octacian |
whitephoenix: I really hope I can actually do it.. Just got sick recently. |
00:25 |
whitephoenix |
that's too bad |
00:25 |
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00:25 |
octacian |
been sick since monday in fact.. maybe I'll be fine though. have been feeling better recently. |
00:26 |
whitephoenix |
I was gonna set up the mumble server today until xubuntu decided to break everything |
00:27 |
octacian |
My friend has a mumble server. I'm sure he'd be OK with it being used for the competition. |
00:27 |
whitephoenix |
eh I have someone letting my borrow a server, just need to install some stuff |
00:27 |
octacian |
ohk |
00:28 |
octacian |
I wish my internet was faster... I used to have a mumble server running right here, but internet proved to be too slow. |
00:29 |
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00:29 |
asdf_ |
so people tell me to play minecraft because its "better" |
00:29 |
asdf_ |
but i like foss so i want to play minetest |
00:30 |
asdf_ |
since i play either for the first time, will it matter? |
00:30 |
octacian |
asdf_: well, I must say that it is more advanced, but I far prefer Minetest. |
00:30 |
asdf_ |
octacian: for which reason? |
00:30 |
octacian |
no weird monsters, and it's FOSS. |
00:30 |
* asdf_ |
dont knows about monsters |
00:30 |
garywhite |
I especially like the F in FOSS because it's Free |
00:30 |
asdf_ |
so there are no enemies at all? can i find other players? |
00:31 |
octacian |
well, if you play minecraft, there's zombies, skeletons, and other weird stuff. Which I don't like. |
00:31 |
octacian |
asdf_: if you join a server. |
00:31 |
asdf_ |
i see |
00:31 |
asdf_ |
well sometimes having animals would be cool |
00:31 |
asdf_ |
i cannot download the tutorial zip :( |
00:32 |
asdf_ |
want to learn how to play this game |
00:32 |
octacian |
Hopefully Minetest will get animals soon. Minetest doesn't have as many developers though. |
00:32 |
whitephoenix |
I'm thinking about install gentoo |
00:32 |
garywhite |
asdf_: What operating system do you have? |
00:33 |
asdf_ |
linux |
00:33 |
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00:33 |
asdf_ |
octacian: in what is the game written? |
00:33 |
garywhite |
There are 2 programming languages for MT. |
00:34 |
garywhite |
C++ & Lua IIRC |
00:34 |
whitephoenix |
yes |
00:34 |
octacian |
asdf_: the actual core game itself is written in C++. The mods, which power in-game content, are written in Lua. |
00:35 |
asdf_ |
i installed minetest via my packagemanager, does it mean it already has mods or its just the core? |
00:35 |
whitephoenix |
probably core + default minetest_game |
00:35 |
whitephoenix |
I just realized, I lost the gift link for the humble bundle book thing for testjam |
00:36 |
garywhite |
D'oh whitephoenix |
00:36 |
asdf_ |
whitephoenix: so mintest_game is already lua? |
00:36 |
whitephoenix |
yes |
00:36 |
asdf_ |
cool |
00:36 |
asdf_ |
where can i see that code? |
00:36 |
octacian |
asdf_: yes. |
00:36 |
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00:36 |
whitephoenix |
garywhite, they have a game programming bundle, so I'll give that as a prize instead |
00:36 |
whitephoenix |
github |
00:36 |
kaeza |
asdf_, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game |
00:36 |
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00:37 |
asdf_ |
kaeza: thank you |
00:37 |
asdf_ |
so if i install a mod on the server, this will be automatically active when i start the server and all players will get it? |
00:37 |
kaeza |
asdf_, more or less, yes |
00:37 |
kaeza |
asdf_, except players don't "get" anything except media files |
00:38 |
kaeza |
all code runs server-side |
00:38 |
asdf_ |
or is this what the gameid switch is for? i am not so sure yet how to understand 'mod' |
00:38 |
asdf_ |
i thought a mod is an entirely different version of a game. but it seems here it can also mean that the game gets added functionality? |
00:39 |
kaeza |
asdf_, mods are collections of code (.lua) and media (textures, sounds, models) that extend the game by adding blocks or other things |
00:39 |
garywhite |
asdf_: A mod is an addition to the game that adds more stuff, a subgame is an entire different version of a game here |
00:39 |
asdf_ |
ah okay |
00:39 |
asdf_ |
:) |
00:40 |
kaeza |
asdf_, "modpacks" refer to collections of mods with more or less related functionality |
00:40 |
kaeza |
"games" (aka subgames) refer to "ready to play" collection of mods |
00:41 |
kaeza |
when you install minetest_game, you're just installing a bunch of mods that provide the base |
00:41 |
asdf_ |
is there a way when running minetestserver to see what i can use for 'gameid' ? |
00:41 |
whitephoenix |
I updated the prizes on the post, sorry guys https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15999&p=241853#p241853 |
00:42 |
kaeza |
asdf_, --gameid is the name of the "subgame" directory (usually in ~/.minetest/games) |
00:42 |
whitephoenix |
last time I use anything canonical makes |
00:42 |
kaeza |
sans `_game`, if present |
00:43 |
kaeza |
so e.g. to select minetest_game, you use `--gameid minetest` |
00:44 |
asdf_ |
and the mods are loaded automatically? |
00:44 |
* longerstaff13 |
appears |
00:44 |
kaeza |
game mods do; "external" ones, you need to enable separately |
00:44 |
asdf_ |
my distribution has some mods in the package manager. i installed some. they reside in /usr/share/minetest/mods it seems |
00:44 |
asdf_ |
following ones i installed: farming_plus homedecor_modpack moreblocks quartz streets torches |
00:45 |
octacian |
whitephoenix: look through you history maybe. Game development is honestly less interesting.. |
00:45 |
kaeza |
asdf_, to enable a mod named `farming_plus`: echo "load_mod_farming_plus = true" >> worlds/yourworld/world.mt |
00:45 |
octacian |
wait, so what OS are you running? |
00:45 |
whitephoenix |
yeah sorry |
00:46 |
whitephoenix |
I'm running xubuntu right now, but am switching away because it messed up my hard drives |
00:46 |
octacian |
that's honestly rare... |
00:46 |
longerstaff13 |
how? |
00:46 |
octacian |
lol |
00:46 |
whitephoenix |
I don't know, I think a video card driver went wrong |
00:46 |
octacian |
use Ubuntu if all else fails. |
00:46 |
longerstaff13 |
I use LXDE |
00:46 |
asdf_ |
kaeza: and a 'world' is like a version of a game? i mean a save game? |
00:46 |
whitephoenix |
next thing I new I couldn't mount my drive |
00:46 |
octacian |
what video card do you have? |
00:46 |
asdf_ |
kaeza: the state of the game? |
00:46 |
whitephoenix |
data recovery stuff got only some stuff back |
00:46 |
whitephoenix |
r9 280 |
00:47 |
octacian |
huh never heard of it. |
00:47 |
kaeza |
asdf_, a "world" is the state of the game (map+metadata+player info+...) |
00:47 |
asdf_ |
ok |
00:47 |
whitephoenix |
but yeah I'm switching to gentoo I think, that way if something breaks I can only blame myself, not canonical for removing stuff I needed |
00:47 |
asdf_ |
so loading those mods is always done via editing that file? |
00:47 |
octacian |
Ubuntu rocks! ..and it can't really be Canonical's fault... I mean, really |
00:48 |
asdf_ |
it seems the world file already has contents with the mods, all set to false. i wonder when they got added since i installed the mods later only |
00:48 |
whitephoenix |
eh they removed the fglrx driver which I needed |
00:48 |
whitephoenix |
screw amd users right? |
00:48 |
kaeza |
asdf_, you can also manually put mods into `yourworld/worldmods` and they will load automatically IIRC |
00:48 |
kaeza |
that's probably easier |
00:49 |
octacian |
whitephoenix: you sure they removed it? It had to have been something you did.. (no offence) |
00:49 |
* octacian |
is afk |
00:49 |
kaeza |
(worldmods is a directory you need to create manually) |
00:49 |
whitephoenix |
octacian, yes they totally dropped the package |
00:49 |
whitephoenix |
try apt install fglrx see what happens |
00:49 |
asdf_ |
so how to get all the mods into the world.mt file already? although disabled |
00:49 |
asdf_ |
does it genreally contain all mods even if not installed? |
00:49 |
* octacian |
is back. |
00:50 |
octacian |
whitephoenix: what had you done first? typically, you install something, dependencies get messed up, and weird stuff happens. |
00:50 |
kaeza |
asdf_, the mainmenu adds those lines when you configure a world |
00:50 |
asdf_ |
hm cannot remember to have configured anything honestly |
00:50 |
whitephoenix |
The video drivers they gave me instead worked horribly so I downloaded some from the amd website |
00:51 |
whitephoenix |
idk what happened then but everything froze, things crashed, hard drives got messed up |
00:51 |
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00:53 |
whitephoenix |
oh right, the hard drives getting messed with actually happened while I was reinstalling xubuntu |
00:53 |
whitephoenix |
I made sure that the format box was unchecked for the drives but I guess it did it anyways |
00:54 |
asdf_ |
hm it seems i can only gathre flowers, earth and trees? not the stone? |
00:56 |
octacian |
whitephoenix: so, it wouldn't boot? did it like freeze when attempting to boot? |
00:56 |
whitephoenix |
I forget already, I think there was kernel panicing |
00:56 |
kaeza |
a crafting guide in default is really needed :( |
00:57 |
octacian |
..did you try nomodeset in grub? did it drop you to initramfs? |
00:57 |
octacian |
initramfs would explain the HDD issues, but.. |
00:57 |
whitephoenix |
eh I stopped caring at that point, I've used better distributions anyways |
00:58 |
whitephoenix |
I reinstalled it to recover what I could and prepare for a new install |
00:58 |
octacian |
kaeza: I agree. I don't get why people want progressive crafting guides. It ruins the entire idea... |
00:58 |
octacian |
well... |
00:58 |
kaeza |
liberal crafting guides are better |
00:58 |
* kaeza |
hides |
00:58 |
octacian |
yep |
00:59 |
* octacian |
agrees |
00:59 |
kaeza |
but seriously, I don't like the UI's approach of showing everything and the dog |
01:00 |
kaeza |
it should be progressive IMHO, to avoid spoiling the experience |
01:00 |
asdf_ |
yes i need to learn crafting |
01:00 |
asdf_ |
i found out how to made some wodden planks now |
01:00 |
asdf_ |
but still not sure how to mine stone |
01:01 |
asdf_ |
and no idea whether my mods have loaded |
01:01 |
asdf_ |
since i dont see any farms anywhere |
01:01 |
asdf_ |
and no streets |
01:01 |
asdf_ |
but probably its somehitng i an build now? |
01:01 |
octacian |
yeah. Still though, I disagree with progressive. It kinda ruins it. As somebody said, why would people make random stuff if they don't know what it can be used for? |
01:01 |
garywhite |
asdf_: The streets and farms do not generate automatically |
01:02 |
octacian |
Maybe if you can get something like a wiki for each item, showing several things it could be used for.. that'd be ok. |
01:03 |
* octacian |
is again AFK. He is currently looking for scrap paper (like that's easy) to begin planning for TestJam |
01:03 |
kaeza |
octacian, ever played Terraria? its crafting system is quite nice: http://terraria.gamepedia.com/Guide:Crafting_101 |
01:04 |
kaeza |
except for the "proximity to crafting stations" bit :P |
01:04 |
asdf_ |
can somebody tell me where i can get a better mining-thing? i dont see iron or anything anywhere |
01:04 |
asdf_ |
or am not able to pick it at least |
01:05 |
kaeza |
asdf_, you need a pickaxe: three planks on top row, and sticks in middle column (forming a 'T') |
01:05 |
kaeza |
that's the only spoiler you get :P |
01:05 |
garywhite |
celeron55, paramat, all devs, IhrFussel: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16048 |
01:06 |
* octacian |
is back. |
01:06 |
octacian |
kaeza: yes, I have. |
01:06 |
octacian |
you know, I guess it is. That wouldn't honestly be too bad... |
01:06 |
asdf_ |
kaeza: wow you mean i can build stuff just like that? but in some way i need to build things that the computer already knows right? otherwise it wouldnt know that this thing is stronger thatn what i had before |
01:07 |
whitephoenix |
thats hilarious |
01:07 |
whitephoenix |
css sure is hard |
01:07 |
octacian |
CSS? |
01:07 |
whitephoenix |
the minehacker website |
01:07 |
octacian |
IKR. |
01:07 |
whitephoenix |
Buy -> "not yet, buddy." |
01:07 |
octacian |
"First ever hacked Client" :rotfl: |
01:08 |
whitephoenix |
I kinda feel sad for anyone who look to cheating in video games for validation |
01:09 |
fuddie |
what is 'mese crystal'? |
01:09 |
octacian |
Yeah... I made a hacked client once cause I didn't believe that it was that easy, but... I deleted it later, I'm not that bad. |
01:09 |
kaeza |
asdf_, yep. once you have the "wooden pickaxe", you should be able to mine at least stone |
01:09 |
whitephoenix |
I bet this is just a useless mod he's gonna sucker people in paying $30 for |
01:09 |
whitephoenix |
otherwise, I'll get the decompiler ready |
01:10 |
BrandonReese |
I doubt anybody buys it. |
01:10 |
octacian |
nope, it's probably an actual client. IK noclip, fly, and fast is easily possible. In fact, it's just one line. AFAIK damage is client-side, not sure about the other stuff though. |
01:10 |
kaeza |
asdf_, try same recipe but with cobblestone instead of wood planks this time |
01:10 |
octacian |
just that it's a paid MT client, is like, weird. |
01:10 |
emunandPC |
i know |
01:10 |
asdf_ |
not sure how to use the new tool now actually, kaeza |
01:10 |
whitephoenix |
How do you even get a client mod to load on a server that doesn't have it enabled? |
01:11 |
emunandPC |
but minetest is liscened under LGPL |
01:11 |
asdf_ |
i have too much stuff in the bar below, flowers and such |
01:11 |
emunandPC |
so iguess its fair? |
01:11 |
whitephoenix |
yeah its legal, just a jackass thing to do |
01:11 |
asdf_ |
yeah got it! |
01:11 |
kaeza |
asdf_, on the inventory screen, the top row is your hotbar. move items as you see fit |
01:11 |
BrandonReese |
Is he required to share the source no matter what, or is he only required to include the source to those who purchase? |
01:11 |
octacian |
emunandPC: but he has to provide source code, unless he's used MT like a library, which is ridiculous. And he doesn't seem interested in doing so. |
01:12 |
whitephoenix |
oh right forgot about that |
01:12 |
whitephoenix |
getting my licenses mixed up yet again |
01:12 |
emunandPC |
he is legally obliged to |
01:12 |
emunandPC |
time to make like Nintendo and do a DMCA |
01:12 |
asdf_ |
can i somehow get my position so i can return there later? |
01:12 |
emunandPC |
asdf_: do F5 |
01:13 |
whitephoenix |
emunandPC, do you do 3ds hacking? |
01:13 |
emunandPC |
atlast someone notices |
01:13 |
emunandPC |
yes |
01:13 |
emunandPC |
or rather, homebrew |
01:13 |
asdf_ |
emunandPC: more such trick? :) |
01:14 |
whitephoenix |
Nice, I did that for a while too |
01:14 |
fuddie |
What is the use of "Mese Crystal"? |
01:14 |
emunandPC |
asdf_: F9 brings up a minimap |
01:14 |
emunandPC |
mese has no use really |
01:14 |
emunandPC |
mesecons can be installed to use it as redstone |
01:14 |
fuddie |
ok thanks |
01:14 |
VanessaE |
mese is sometimes used as a currency too |
01:15 |
octacian |
emunandPC: you can use it for tools.... |
01:15 |
emunandPC |
octacian: almost anything can be used as a tool though, e.g. stone, wood, diamond |
01:15 |
octacian |
true. |
01:16 |
garywhite |
VanessaE did you read the link above? |
01:16 |
whitephoenix |
I guess I'd better start compiling gentoo before it gets too late |
01:17 |
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01:17 |
emunandPC |
someone buy it and extract the mods he has |
01:17 |
VanessaE |
garywhite: about minehack? yeah, seen it already |
01:17 |
emunandPC |
then put it up under gpl |
01:17 |
octacian |
emunandPC: well, I'm not doing it. But when he releases it, if someone does, please let me know. |
01:17 |
VanessaE |
the proper way to handle minehack is DMCA and similar takedown notices |
01:18 |
fuddie |
what is minehack? |
01:18 |
octacian |
Yeah. I agree. |
01:18 |
VanessaE |
everyone who has a bit of code in the engine or game should be doing so. |
01:18 |
VanessaE |
fuddie: a modified clone of the engine |
01:18 |
VanessaE |
dedicated to bypassing servers' rules |
01:18 |
VanessaE |
e.g. noclip and the like |
01:18 |
fuddie |
is it any better? |
01:18 |
VanessaE |
no. |
01:19 |
fuddie |
oh so it's just a cheaters' client? |
01:19 |
whitephoenix |
yes |
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VanessaE |
yep basically |
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VanessaE |
and one which they're charging money for :P |
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emunandPC |
even though there are free ones already |
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fuddie |
that is funny |
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garywhite |
Would it be possible to have a server mod that kicks any such client that does this sort of bullcrap hacking? |
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octacian |
garywhite: though I don't it, the client supposedly can avoid kicking and banning :P |
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emunandPC |
garywhite: i guess there might be a way |
01:21 |
garywhite |
xban, bans IP, anything & EVERYTHING possible to remove these clients and make them worthless |
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VanessaE |
garywhite: not precisely but if, for example, the server says a user doesn't have noclip, and that user is seen passing through a solid wall (according to where the server says nodes are at), then surely it can kick the player |
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octacian |
the client could (though I doubt it, again) have some kind of vpn/tor type thing builtin. I honestly don't think the guy is that smart though. just a possibility. |
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VanessaE |
so what? |
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VanessaE |
kick == server stops exchanging packets |
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octacian |
It could just reconnect. I really doubt it though. |
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whitephoenix |
honestly this has all the things they advertise in minecraft hacked clients |
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VanessaE |
(as for tor and vpns, ban every last G*d damned one of them) |
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whitephoenix |
even the annoying overused dubstep in the trailer |
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whitephoenix |
I think they use proxies |
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octacian |
yep lol. |
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octacian |
probably. |
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emunandPC |
oh yeah, the generic dubstep music in the trailer |
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emunandPC |
stopped watching it after i heard it |
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* octacian |
has to use both monitors, so is AFK. |
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asdf_ |
i installed that https://github.com/minetest-mods/craftguide |
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asdf_ |
but have no idea how to display it? |
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asdf_ |
also i enabled it in world.mt |
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kaeza |
looks like you need a book |
01:39 |
kaeza |
look in the craftguide how to... oh |
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octacian |
lol |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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kaeza |
asdf_, three papyrus horizontally in a row -> paper |
01:42 |
kaeza |
three papers vertically in a column -> book |
01:42 |
kaeza |
book -> craft guide |
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asdf_ |
wonder how to get papyrus |
01:42 |
* kaeza |
says fsck it and /giveme craftguide:book |
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asdf_ |
the stuff at the water maybe? |
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asdf_ |
oh nice |
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asdf_ |
great runtime error :) |
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kaeza |
lol |
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asdf_ |
item_onuse -> attempt to call field colorize a nil value. |
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asdf_ |
dont see why https://github.com/minetest-mods/craftguide/blob/master/init.lua#L40 seems to be god |
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asdf_ |
or did the minetest api change? |
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asdf_ |
doesnt look like it either |
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kaeza |
that was probably after 0.4.14, so yes |
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kaeza |
you could replace that line with just `return str` for now |
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kaeza |
I'm getting craftguide/init.lua:72: attempt to index local 'recipes' (a nil value) instead, so something else's broken there |
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asdf_ |
i just looked at some api reference |
01:54 |
* kaeza |
suggests https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory |
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asdf_ |
seems that one was old then too? |
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asdf_ |
what is that exactly? |
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jubalh |
hi |
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jubalh |
i saw there are many mods, is it the goal for them to stay mods or will some be included in the main game? |
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jubalh |
some seem to make senes.. |
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jubalh |
and its alwaysa a hassle to install mods |
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jubalh |
how comes i never met one of those: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mobs ? |
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octacian |
jubalh: cause it requires a special mod. |
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octacian |
good night everybody. |
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jubalh |
octacian: i wonder why that fact is not mentioned in tha wiki article |
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octacian |
IDK, all IK is that I didn't wite it :D |
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jubalh |
so i used some time to build a nice houes for myself |
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jubalh |
but i suppose i cannot somehow save this and put in another world? |
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jubalh |
or save that world? |
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can someone help me? I'm playinh minetest with a lot of mods that adds mobs like nssm and mobs-redo. And i can't find a way to dig the cobweb |
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primary11 |
which tool should i use? |
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Don't be surprised if I disconnect...I just got a Flash Flood Warning for our area |
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cheapie |
This is what happens when I get bored enough to start reading random sections of the MUTCD: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&p=242803#p242803 |
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cheapie |
The part in question here would be chapter 4J, "Traffic Control for Movable Bridges". |
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ikradulov |
hello . I tried to run a sub game called minetest saturn . But afer that every game has no gravity . I deleted the config file (gravity set by the mod there) but no luck . Any help ?) |
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Out`Of`Control |
ikradulov: move/delete gravity mod |
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ikradulov |
does not work |
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ikradulov |
apperantly i fixed it by recompiling latest git version and deleting the config file |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Ugly Christmas Sweater Day! 😃 |
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jubalh |
hi folks |
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jubalh |
i really think minetest should get some enemies/animals |
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its awfully lonely in that big world all by your own |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sofar -> minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default in UI 78bf7c4 https://git.io/v1HHl (2016-12-16T12:31:38Z) |
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Baker |
Hello |
16:24 |
garywhite |
Hello Baker |
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Baker |
I finally figured out how to use irc..... |
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Baker |
Hey Gary : ) |
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garywhite |
Wait...BakerPrime? Is that you? |
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Baker |
Yup |
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garywhite |
Oh hey |
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Baker |
What's up? |
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longerstaff13 |
BakerPrime? |
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Baker |
Yes longer? |
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juhdanad |
Who is BakerPrime? |
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longerstaff13 |
a player from my server and some other servers |
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Baker |
Am I on the right channel to be chatting? Or is this a dev |
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longerstaff13 |
this is #minetest |
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Baker |
Channel? |
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longerstaff13 |
yes |
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garywhite |
This is the right channel Baker |
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Baker |
So I should join a different channel? |
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garywhite |
You can join #ls-servers |
16:29 |
Baker |
Ok Gary |
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longerstaff13 |
no, you are correct to join here |
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longerstaff13 |
and #ls-servers is my IRC :P |
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garywhite |
But you don't have to leave here |
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Baker |
Ok longer |
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Baker |
I just came on to let you know I won't be on ls-world for a while |
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longerstaff13 |
oh why? |
16:32 |
Baker |
I lost my computer for a few weeks |
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longerstaff13 |
oh |
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longerstaff13 |
you can join the IRC though, /join #ls-servers |
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garywhite |
oh ok...If you don't mind me asking Baker, why did you lose it? |
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Baker |
But I will try (now that I know how) to connect to irc once in a while |
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longerstaff13 |
ok |
16:34 |
Baker |
I failed to do some chores the other day because I was playing computer |
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longerstaff13 |
:/ |
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Baker |
Not very bright of me |
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longerstaff13 |
can DerpyCow still visit? |
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Baker |
He lost his too because he is even worse then me with computers |
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longerstaff13 |
XD oh no |
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Baker |
Oh yeah XD if I go down, we both go down. |
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longerstaff13 |
XD |
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Baker |
So, what's new on the server? |
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longerstaff13 |
a hacker :/ |
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Baker |
Uh oh, did he destroy anything? |
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longerstaff13 |
nah, he did however give himself privs and ban a few people, but I banned him b4 he could do worse |
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Baker |
Good, NO Hackers allowed |
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longerstaff13 |
exacto |
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longerstaff13 |
I'll brb |
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sfan5 |
lel |
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Baker |
Has he gotten back on yet? |
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sfan5 |
longerstaff13: if a "hacker" can manage to acquire ban privileges then you are doing something seriously wrong |
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red-001 |
that should be impossible... |
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red-001 |
unless he used social engineering |
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Baker |
No, not necessarily, hackers (to my knowledge) can pretty much get any private they want |
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red-001 |
a.k.a one of your admins gave him provs |
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red-001 |
privs* |
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Baker |
Who? |
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sfan5 |
Baker: no, sorry, they can't |
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Baker |
Oh, ok |
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Baker |
*Privilege |
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red-001 |
well he could in theory get access to the machine... |
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garywhite |
If he got access to the machine, then the same person hosts 10+ servers |
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red-001 |
but then he would be able to do a lot more |
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red-001 |
well sounds like someone gave him the privs |
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garywhite |
Plus, it's not like it's hosted at Yahoo |
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red-001 |
you got any logs of the incident? |
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red-001 |
he might have exploited a poorly made mod.... |
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Baker |
Ughh, where I live we are getting temps in the - 40f: ( |
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garywhite |
:/ |
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rickmcfarley |
I thought we had it bad with -1f |
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Baker |
Or were, last night.... now it's come up to like 0f with windmills around- 20 |
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Baker |
*Windchills |
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DerpyCow |
\JOIN |
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DerpyCow |
... |
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garywhite |
Hi DerpyCow |
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DerpyCow |
Hi |
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Baker |
You r on derpy |
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Baker |
*Your |
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DerpyCow |
How u doing? |
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DerpyCow |
Yep I am |
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DerpyCow |
? |
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DerpyCow |
Baker's AFP |
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DerpyCow |
:away fom |
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DerpyCow |
Phone |
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DerpyCow |
*from |
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DerpyCow |
Back |
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DerpyCow |
Gary? |
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DerpyCow |
U there? |
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longerstaff13 |
? |
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DerpyCow |
Is Gary still here? |
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longerstaff13 |
dunno |
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longerstaff13 |
garywhite: ^ |
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Kk |
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DerpyCow |
Hi baker! |
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Baker |
Hi |
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DerpyCow |
=) |
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Baker |
Longerstaff? Will you still be on mt fourms after you leave? |
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DerpyCow |
Long??? |
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garywhite |
Yes |
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DerpyCow |
LONGER? |
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DerpyCow |
Not gary |
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Baker |
Will longer still be on the fourms? |
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Baker |
I'll try to get connected on ls servers |
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juhdanad |
Is there a platformer mod for Minetest? |
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juhdanad |
I mean when you have to jump on the head of your enemies. |
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Fixer |
lol |
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juhdanad |
It was a serious question... |
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Fixer |
Mario Mod for minetest? |
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juhdanad |
Yes, why not? Digging and building nodes would be part of the gameplay, but in a limited form. |
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Persi[m] |
I think Mario 64 kinda taught us jumping on enemies in 3d doesn't quite work |
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Persi[m] |
But then Mario 3d land showed it does work if you have a stereoscopic screen and fixed camera... |
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Persi[m] |
It would require improving the client to make the third person camera not suck for platforming, and it would still be terrible underground and inside buildings |
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garywhite |
Has anyone heard of snapcraft? |
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garywhite |
http://snapcraft.io |
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est31 |
yes |
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est31 |
flatpak is better |
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est31 |
http://flatpak.org/ |
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garywhite |
Cause longerstaff13 usually gets 5-8 FPS using the regular MT build for Ubuntu (I think) but he's getting 40 FPS on an unofficial snapcraft snap |
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est31 |
well, thats probably caused by different configuration of the snap, and less caused by the actual snap process |
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est31 |
but whatever |
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longerstaff13 |
25-40FPS yes |
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Reminder that testjam 2016 starts tommorow at 10am PST |
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garywhite |
whitephoenix have you gotten any official entries? |
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whitephoenix |
No it hasn't started yet |
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whitephoenix |
hopefully I can get gentoo setup by then |
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garywhite |
Shouldn't you start finding out who plans to compete and have a preliminary list of contestants? If you use something like Google Forms, that can export the list to a Microsoft Excel (*.xlsx) file |
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Fixer |
config may be different |
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Fixer |
it may also contain superfl shader PR that was merged recently that greatly enhances fps |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, around? |
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kaeza |
VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest-technic/item_tweaks/issues/3#issuecomment-267723647 |