Time Nick Message 00:00 octacian running git pull... &&... won't work. do "cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc)" (without "s) 00:01 GreenDimond hm. 00:01 GreenDimond it seems it worked but.... 00:01 GreenDimond idk what the older daily ver was 00:01 GreenDimond so idk if it really updated 00:01 as2j emunandPC: in lua? 00:03 octacian GreenDimond: well, does the version you just updated to have skeleton keys? I doubt the one you had before did, so... 00:03 GreenDimond no the one before did 00:03 emunandPC what "in lua"? 00:03 emunandPC oh you mean the command? 00:03 emunandPC no it's run in bash 00:04 as2j well i wonderd if i can script my player to walk around 00:04 as2j then watch him do it ;) 00:04 GreenDimond the one I updated from I got maybe a week ago? 2 weeks? 00:04 emunandPC as2j: i don't think it would be possible 00:04 as2j ok 00:04 emunandPC as2j: just run a dedicated server and connect to it 00:04 as2j still have to find my way around first time with such a game 00:04 as2j i am alrady at a server 00:04 as2j when i fly, how to i get back to earth? ;) 00:05 emunandPC most likely you will have to do /spawn 00:05 emunandPC or something else 00:05 octacian GreenDimond: ok, well. Considering that you last updated such a short time ago, I wouldn't worry about whether it updated or not at this point. Cause unless it gave you and error, there's about a 99% chance that it did. 00:05 GreenDimond https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds says latest is 5223 but my ver isnt even a 4 dig. #. 00:05 GreenDimond (latest ver) 00:07 octacian AFAIK the version numbers there are entirely different. 00:08 octacian Let me update my version of MT, and I'll tell you what my version number is. 00:08 as2j there are no enemies? 00:08 GreenDimond kk 00:09 octacian as2j: not yet. 00:09 as2j octacian: meaning the game doesnt have it yet or i didnt play long enough? ;) 00:10 GreenDimond probly wont have mobs 4 a while 00:10 octacian the game doesn't have any yet. 00:11 octacian and hopefully, when the game does get enemies, they are not "monsters." I'd prefer real creatures (they can still be enemies, e.g. lions). 00:11 GreenDimond i like the new carts ") 00:11 GreenDimond *:) 00:12 as2j so if you play that game, what do you actually do? 00:12 as2j just build stuff? 00:12 GreenDimond or servers 00:12 GreenDimond also get mods and do survival 00:12 GreenDimond skelton keys are also nice 00:13 GreenDimond tnt mechanics have also changed greatly 00:14 octacian as2j: at this point, I guess so. Some servers have mobs through mods, but. 00:14 emunandPC what deos AFAIK even mean? 00:14 emunandPC "As Friendly As I Know" 00:14 octacian GreenDimond: my MT version is: 5dc6198 00:14 GreenDimond As far as i know 00:14 octacian emunandPC: As Far As I Know 00:14 emunandPC oh 00:15 GreenDimond i have 0614da3 00:15 emunandPC "Always Fetch Any Internet Knowers" 00:15 GreenDimond your dev version yes? 00:15 GreenDimond *daily 00:15 octacian I wonder if the build numbers are different for each person. I wonder if a new build number is generated each time it is built. I see no other reason. 00:16 garywhite 5dc6198 = Nov 30, 2016 00:16 octacian garywhite: it = now. I just built it 60 seconds ago. 00:16 octacian It's a build number, not commit hash. 00:16 garywhite ohhhhhh ok 00:17 GreenDimond hm. 00:17 GreenDimond so i have no way of knowing. that is fine. 00:18 GreenDimond if ruben replies then maybe ill get a better way of updating? idk :P 00:18 GreenDimond rubenwardy is the one who told me how to build it :P 00:18 as2j that tutorial zip really doesnt load ;? 00:18 as2j :( 00:19 octacian GreenDimond: I think you have the latest version. I believe the build number is generated as you build it. and, AFAIK, the method you used is the only way. 00:19 GreenDimond kk 00:20 GreenDimond well cya laterz 00:20 GreenDimond thx 4 the help! 00:20 octacian ok 00:24 whitephoenix testjam starts day after tommorow 00:24 octacian whitephoenix: I really hope I can actually do it.. Just got sick recently. 00:25 whitephoenix that's too bad 00:25 octacian been sick since monday in fact.. maybe I'll be fine though. have been feeling better recently. 00:26 whitephoenix I was gonna set up the mumble server today until xubuntu decided to break everything 00:27 octacian My friend has a mumble server. I'm sure he'd be OK with it being used for the competition. 00:27 whitephoenix eh I have someone letting my borrow a server, just need to install some stuff 00:27 octacian ohk 00:28 octacian I wish my internet was faster... I used to have a mumble server running right here, but internet proved to be too slow. 00:29 asdf_ so people tell me to play minecraft because its "better" 00:29 asdf_ but i like foss so i want to play minetest 00:30 asdf_ since i play either for the first time, will it matter? 00:30 octacian asdf_: well, I must say that it is more advanced, but I far prefer Minetest. 00:30 asdf_ octacian: for which reason? 00:30 octacian no weird monsters, and it's FOSS. 00:30 * asdf_ dont knows about monsters 00:30 garywhite I especially like the F in FOSS because it's Free 00:30 asdf_ so there are no enemies at all? can i find other players? 00:31 octacian well, if you play minecraft, there's zombies, skeletons, and other weird stuff. Which I don't like. 00:31 octacian asdf_: if you join a server. 00:31 asdf_ i see 00:31 asdf_ well sometimes having animals would be cool 00:31 asdf_ i cannot download the tutorial zip :( 00:32 asdf_ want to learn how to play this game 00:32 octacian Hopefully Minetest will get animals soon. Minetest doesn't have as many developers though. 00:32 whitephoenix I'm thinking about install gentoo 00:32 garywhite asdf_: What operating system do you have? 00:33 asdf_ linux 00:33 asdf_ octacian: in what is the game written? 00:33 garywhite There are 2 programming languages for MT. 00:34 garywhite C++ & Lua IIRC 00:34 whitephoenix yes 00:34 octacian asdf_: the actual core game itself is written in C++. The mods, which power in-game content, are written in Lua. 00:35 asdf_ i installed minetest via my packagemanager, does it mean it already has mods or its just the core? 00:35 whitephoenix probably core + default minetest_game 00:35 whitephoenix I just realized, I lost the gift link for the humble bundle book thing for testjam 00:36 garywhite D'oh whitephoenix 00:36 asdf_ whitephoenix: so mintest_game is already lua? 00:36 whitephoenix yes 00:36 asdf_ cool 00:36 asdf_ where can i see that code? 00:36 octacian asdf_: yes. 00:36 whitephoenix garywhite, they have a game programming bundle, so I'll give that as a prize instead 00:36 whitephoenix github 00:36 kaeza asdf_, https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game 00:37 asdf_ kaeza: thank you 00:37 asdf_ so if i install a mod on the server, this will be automatically active when i start the server and all players will get it? 00:37 kaeza asdf_, more or less, yes 00:37 kaeza asdf_, except players don't "get" anything except media files 00:38 kaeza all code runs server-side 00:38 asdf_ or is this what the gameid switch is for? i am not so sure yet how to understand 'mod' 00:38 asdf_ i thought a mod is an entirely different version of a game. but it seems here it can also mean that the game gets added functionality? 00:39 kaeza asdf_, mods are collections of code (.lua) and media (textures, sounds, models) that extend the game by adding blocks or other things 00:39 garywhite asdf_: A mod is an addition to the game that adds more stuff, a subgame is an entire different version of a game here 00:39 asdf_ ah okay 00:39 asdf_ :) 00:40 kaeza asdf_, "modpacks" refer to collections of mods with more or less related functionality 00:40 kaeza "games" (aka subgames) refer to "ready to play" collection of mods 00:41 kaeza when you install minetest_game, you're just installing a bunch of mods that provide the base 00:41 asdf_ is there a way when running minetestserver to see what i can use for 'gameid' ? 00:41 whitephoenix I updated the prizes on the post, sorry guys https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=15999&p=241853#p241853 00:42 kaeza asdf_, --gameid is the name of the "subgame" directory (usually in ~/.minetest/games) 00:42 whitephoenix last time I use anything canonical makes 00:42 kaeza sans `_game`, if present 00:43 kaeza so e.g. to select minetest_game, you use `--gameid minetest` 00:44 asdf_ and the mods are loaded automatically? 00:44 * longerstaff13 appears 00:44 kaeza game mods do; "external" ones, you need to enable separately 00:44 asdf_ my distribution has some mods in the package manager. i installed some. they reside in /usr/share/minetest/mods it seems 00:44 asdf_ following ones i installed: farming_plus homedecor_modpack moreblocks quartz streets torches 00:45 octacian whitephoenix: look through you history maybe. Game development is honestly less interesting.. 00:45 kaeza asdf_, to enable a mod named `farming_plus`: echo "load_mod_farming_plus = true" >> worlds/yourworld/world.mt 00:45 octacian wait, so what OS are you running? 00:45 whitephoenix yeah sorry 00:46 whitephoenix I'm running xubuntu right now, but am switching away because it messed up my hard drives 00:46 octacian that's honestly rare... 00:46 longerstaff13 how? 00:46 octacian lol 00:46 whitephoenix I don't know, I think a video card driver went wrong 00:46 octacian use Ubuntu if all else fails. 00:46 longerstaff13 I use LXDE 00:46 asdf_ kaeza: and a 'world' is like a version of a game? i mean a save game? 00:46 whitephoenix next thing I new I couldn't mount my drive 00:46 octacian what video card do you have? 00:46 asdf_ kaeza: the state of the game? 00:46 whitephoenix data recovery stuff got only some stuff back 00:46 whitephoenix r9 280 00:47 octacian huh never heard of it. 00:47 kaeza asdf_, a "world" is the state of the game (map+metadata+player info+...) 00:47 asdf_ ok 00:47 whitephoenix but yeah I'm switching to gentoo I think, that way if something breaks I can only blame myself, not canonical for removing stuff I needed 00:47 asdf_ so loading those mods is always done via editing that file? 00:47 octacian Ubuntu rocks! ..and it can't really be Canonical's fault... I mean, really 00:48 asdf_ it seems the world file already has contents with the mods, all set to false. i wonder when they got added since i installed the mods later only 00:48 whitephoenix eh they removed the fglrx driver which I needed 00:48 whitephoenix screw amd users right? 00:48 kaeza asdf_, you can also manually put mods into `yourworld/worldmods` and they will load automatically IIRC 00:48 kaeza that's probably easier 00:49 octacian whitephoenix: you sure they removed it? It had to have been something you did.. (no offence) 00:49 * octacian is afk 00:49 kaeza (worldmods is a directory you need to create manually) 00:49 whitephoenix octacian, yes they totally dropped the package 00:49 whitephoenix try apt install fglrx see what happens 00:49 asdf_ so how to get all the mods into the world.mt file already? although disabled 00:49 asdf_ does it genreally contain all mods even if not installed? 00:49 * octacian is back. 00:50 octacian whitephoenix: what had you done first? typically, you install something, dependencies get messed up, and weird stuff happens. 00:50 kaeza asdf_, the mainmenu adds those lines when you configure a world 00:50 asdf_ hm cannot remember to have configured anything honestly 00:50 whitephoenix The video drivers they gave me instead worked horribly so I downloaded some from the amd website 00:51 whitephoenix idk what happened then but everything froze, things crashed, hard drives got messed up 00:53 whitephoenix oh right, the hard drives getting messed with actually happened while I was reinstalling xubuntu 00:53 whitephoenix I made sure that the format box was unchecked for the drives but I guess it did it anyways 00:54 asdf_ hm it seems i can only gathre flowers, earth and trees? not the stone? 00:56 octacian whitephoenix: so, it wouldn't boot? did it like freeze when attempting to boot? 00:56 whitephoenix I forget already, I think there was kernel panicing 00:56 kaeza a crafting guide in default is really needed :( 00:57 octacian ..did you try nomodeset in grub? did it drop you to initramfs? 00:57 octacian initramfs would explain the HDD issues, but.. 00:57 whitephoenix eh I stopped caring at that point, I've used better distributions anyways 00:58 whitephoenix I reinstalled it to recover what I could and prepare for a new install 00:58 octacian kaeza: I agree. I don't get why people want progressive crafting guides. It ruins the entire idea... 00:58 octacian well... 00:58 kaeza liberal crafting guides are better 00:58 * kaeza hides 00:58 octacian yep 00:59 * octacian agrees 00:59 kaeza but seriously, I don't like the UI's approach of showing everything and the dog 01:00 kaeza it should be progressive IMHO, to avoid spoiling the experience 01:00 asdf_ yes i need to learn crafting 01:00 asdf_ i found out how to made some wodden planks now 01:00 asdf_ but still not sure how to mine stone 01:01 asdf_ and no idea whether my mods have loaded 01:01 asdf_ since i dont see any farms anywhere 01:01 asdf_ and no streets 01:01 asdf_ but probably its somehitng i an build now? 01:01 octacian yeah. Still though, I disagree with progressive. It kinda ruins it. As somebody said, why would people make random stuff if they don't know what it can be used for? 01:01 garywhite asdf_: The streets and farms do not generate automatically 01:02 octacian Maybe if you can get something like a wiki for each item, showing several things it could be used for.. that'd be ok. 01:03 * octacian is again AFK. He is currently looking for scrap paper (like that's easy) to begin planning for TestJam 01:03 kaeza octacian, ever played Terraria? its crafting system is quite nice: http://terraria.gamepedia.com/Guide:Crafting_101 01:04 kaeza except for the "proximity to crafting stations" bit :P 01:04 asdf_ can somebody tell me where i can get a better mining-thing? i dont see iron or anything anywhere 01:04 asdf_ or am not able to pick it at least 01:05 kaeza asdf_, you need a pickaxe: three planks on top row, and sticks in middle column (forming a 'T') 01:05 kaeza that's the only spoiler you get :P 01:05 garywhite celeron55, paramat, all devs, IhrFussel: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16048 01:06 * octacian is back. 01:06 octacian kaeza: yes, I have. 01:06 octacian you know, I guess it is. That wouldn't honestly be too bad... 01:06 asdf_ kaeza: wow you mean i can build stuff just like that? but in some way i need to build things that the computer already knows right? otherwise it wouldnt know that this thing is stronger thatn what i had before 01:07 whitephoenix thats hilarious 01:07 whitephoenix css sure is hard 01:07 octacian CSS? 01:07 whitephoenix the minehacker website 01:07 octacian IKR. 01:07 whitephoenix Buy -> "not yet, buddy." 01:07 octacian "First ever hacked Client" :rotfl: 01:08 whitephoenix I kinda feel sad for anyone who look to cheating in video games for validation 01:09 fuddie what is 'mese crystal'? 01:09 octacian Yeah... I made a hacked client once cause I didn't believe that it was that easy, but... I deleted it later, I'm not that bad. 01:09 kaeza asdf_, yep. once you have the "wooden pickaxe", you should be able to mine at least stone 01:09 whitephoenix I bet this is just a useless mod he's gonna sucker people in paying $30 for 01:09 whitephoenix otherwise, I'll get the decompiler ready 01:10 BrandonReese I doubt anybody buys it. 01:10 octacian nope, it's probably an actual client. IK noclip, fly, and fast is easily possible. In fact, it's just one line. AFAIK damage is client-side, not sure about the other stuff though. 01:10 kaeza asdf_, try same recipe but with cobblestone instead of wood planks this time 01:10 octacian just that it's a paid MT client, is like, weird. 01:10 emunandPC i know 01:10 asdf_ not sure how to use the new tool now actually, kaeza 01:10 whitephoenix How do you even get a client mod to load on a server that doesn't have it enabled? 01:11 emunandPC but minetest is liscened under LGPL 01:11 asdf_ i have too much stuff in the bar below, flowers and such 01:11 emunandPC so iguess its fair? 01:11 whitephoenix yeah its legal, just a jackass thing to do 01:11 asdf_ yeah got it! 01:11 kaeza asdf_, on the inventory screen, the top row is your hotbar. move items as you see fit 01:11 BrandonReese Is he required to share the source no matter what, or is he only required to include the source to those who purchase? 01:11 octacian emunandPC: but he has to provide source code, unless he's used MT like a library, which is ridiculous. And he doesn't seem interested in doing so. 01:12 whitephoenix oh right forgot about that 01:12 whitephoenix getting my licenses mixed up yet again 01:12 emunandPC he is legally obliged to 01:12 emunandPC time to make like Nintendo and do a DMCA 01:12 asdf_ can i somehow get my position so i can return there later? 01:12 emunandPC asdf_: do F5 01:13 whitephoenix emunandPC, do you do 3ds hacking? 01:13 emunandPC atlast someone notices 01:13 emunandPC yes 01:13 emunandPC or rather, homebrew 01:13 asdf_ emunandPC: more such trick? :) 01:14 whitephoenix Nice, I did that for a while too 01:14 fuddie What is the use of "Mese Crystal"? 01:14 emunandPC asdf_: F9 brings up a minimap 01:14 emunandPC mese has no use really 01:14 emunandPC mesecons can be installed to use it as redstone 01:14 fuddie ok thanks 01:14 VanessaE mese is sometimes used as a currency too 01:15 octacian emunandPC: you can use it for tools.... 01:15 emunandPC octacian: almost anything can be used as a tool though, e.g. stone, wood, diamond 01:15 octacian true. 01:16 garywhite VanessaE did you read the link above? 01:16 whitephoenix I guess I'd better start compiling gentoo before it gets too late 01:17 emunandPC someone buy it and extract the mods he has 01:17 VanessaE garywhite: about minehack? yeah, seen it already 01:17 emunandPC then put it up under gpl 01:17 octacian emunandPC: well, I'm not doing it. But when he releases it, if someone does, please let me know. 01:17 VanessaE the proper way to handle minehack is DMCA and similar takedown notices 01:18 fuddie what is minehack? 01:18 octacian Yeah. I agree. 01:18 VanessaE everyone who has a bit of code in the engine or game should be doing so. 01:18 VanessaE fuddie: a modified clone of the engine 01:18 VanessaE dedicated to bypassing servers' rules 01:18 VanessaE e.g. noclip and the like 01:18 fuddie is it any better? 01:18 VanessaE no. 01:19 fuddie oh so it's just a cheaters' client? 01:19 whitephoenix yes 01:19 VanessaE yep basically 01:19 VanessaE and one which they're charging money for :P 01:19 emunandPC even though there are free ones already 01:19 fuddie that is funny 01:20 garywhite Would it be possible to have a server mod that kicks any such client that does this sort of bullcrap hacking? 01:20 octacian garywhite: though I don't it, the client supposedly can avoid kicking and banning :P 01:21 emunandPC garywhite: i guess there might be a way 01:21 garywhite xban, bans IP, anything & EVERYTHING possible to remove these clients and make them worthless 01:21 VanessaE garywhite: not precisely but if, for example, the server says a user doesn't have noclip, and that user is seen passing through a solid wall (according to where the server says nodes are at), then surely it can kick the player 01:22 octacian the client could (though I doubt it, again) have some kind of vpn/tor type thing builtin. I honestly don't think the guy is that smart though. just a possibility. 01:22 VanessaE so what? 01:23 VanessaE kick == server stops exchanging packets 01:23 octacian It could just reconnect. I really doubt it though. 01:23 whitephoenix honestly this has all the things they advertise in minecraft hacked clients 01:23 VanessaE (as for tor and vpns, ban every last G*d damned one of them) 01:24 whitephoenix even the annoying overused dubstep in the trailer 01:24 whitephoenix I think they use proxies 01:24 octacian yep lol. 01:24 octacian probably. 01:25 emunandPC oh yeah, the generic dubstep music in the trailer 01:25 emunandPC stopped watching it after i heard it 01:29 * octacian has to use both monitors, so is AFK. 01:37 asdf_ i installed that https://github.com/minetest-mods/craftguide 01:37 asdf_ but have no idea how to display it? 01:38 asdf_ also i enabled it in world.mt 01:39 kaeza looks like you need a book 01:39 kaeza look in the craftguide how to... oh 01:40 octacian lol 01:40 VanessaE heh 01:41 kaeza asdf_, three papyrus horizontally in a row -> paper 01:42 kaeza three papers vertically in a column -> book 01:42 kaeza book -> craft guide 01:42 asdf_ wonder how to get papyrus 01:42 * kaeza says fsck it and /giveme craftguide:book 01:42 asdf_ the stuff at the water maybe? 01:44 asdf_ oh nice 01:45 asdf_ great runtime error :) 01:45 kaeza lol 01:46 asdf_ item_onuse -> attempt to call field colorize a nil value. 01:46 asdf_ dont see why https://github.com/minetest-mods/craftguide/blob/master/init.lua#L40 seems to be god 01:47 asdf_ or did the minetest api change? 01:48 asdf_ doesnt look like it either 01:52 kaeza that was probably after 0.4.14, so yes 01:53 kaeza you could replace that line with just `return str` for now 01:54 kaeza I'm getting craftguide/init.lua:72: attempt to index local 'recipes' (a nil value) instead, so something else's broken there 01:54 asdf_ i just looked at some api reference 01:54 * kaeza suggests https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory 01:54 asdf_ seems that one was old then too? 01:55 asdf_ what is that exactly? 02:15 jubalh hi 02:15 jubalh i saw there are many mods, is it the goal for them to stay mods or will some be included in the main game? 02:15 jubalh some seem to make senes.. 02:15 jubalh and its alwaysa a hassle to install mods 02:33 jubalh how comes i never met one of those: http://wiki.minetest.com/wiki/Mobs ? 02:36 octacian jubalh: cause it requires a special mod. 02:37 octacian good night everybody. 02:39 jubalh octacian: i wonder why that fact is not mentioned in tha wiki article 02:39 octacian IDK, all IK is that I didn't wite it :D 02:44 jubalh so i used some time to build a nice houes for myself 02:44 jubalh but i suppose i cannot somehow save this and put in another world? 02:44 jubalh or save that world? 03:02 primary11 can someone help me? I'm playinh minetest with a lot of mods that adds mobs like nssm and mobs-redo. And i can't find a way to dig the cobweb 03:03 primary11 which tool should i use? 04:21 garywhite Don't be surprised if I disconnect...I just got a Flash Flood Warning for our area 07:48 cheapie This is what happens when I get bored enough to start reading random sections of the MUTCD: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=156&p=242803#p242803 07:49 cheapie The part in question here would be chapter 4J, "Traffic Control for Movable Bridges". 08:26 ikradulov hello . I tried to run a sub game called minetest saturn . But afer that every game has no gravity . I deleted the config file (gravity set by the mod there) but no luck . Any help ?) 09:17 Out`Of`Control ikradulov: move/delete gravity mod 09:18 ikradulov does not work 09:27 ikradulov apperantly i fixed it by recompiling latest git version and deleting the config file 09:54 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy Ugly Christmas Sweater Day! 😃 11:27 jubalh hi folks 11:27 jubalh i really think minetest should get some enemies/animals 11:27 jubalh its awfully lonely in that big world all by your own 12:40 MinetestBot 02[git] 04sofar -> 03minetest/minetest: Mapgen: Make mgv7 the default in UI 1378bf7c4 https://git.io/v1HHl (152016-12-16T12:31:38Z) 16:24 Baker Hello 16:24 garywhite Hello Baker 16:25 Baker I finally figured out how to use irc..... 16:26 Baker Hey Gary : ) 16:26 garywhite Wait...BakerPrime? Is that you? 16:26 Baker Yup 16:26 garywhite Oh hey 16:27 Baker What's up? 16:27 longerstaff13 BakerPrime? 16:27 Baker Yes longer? 16:27 juhdanad Who is BakerPrime? 16:27 longerstaff13 a player from my server and some other servers 16:28 Baker Am I on the right channel to be chatting? Or is this a dev 16:28 longerstaff13 this is #minetest 16:28 Baker Channel? 16:28 longerstaff13 yes 16:29 garywhite This is the right channel Baker 16:29 Baker So I should join a different channel? 16:29 garywhite You can join #ls-servers 16:29 Baker Ok Gary 16:29 longerstaff13 no, you are correct to join here 16:30 longerstaff13 and #ls-servers is my IRC :P 16:30 garywhite But you don't have to leave here 16:30 Baker Ok longer 16:31 Baker I just came on to let you know I won't be on ls-world for a while 16:32 longerstaff13 oh why? 16:32 Baker I lost my computer for a few weeks 16:32 longerstaff13 oh 16:33 longerstaff13 you can join the IRC though, /join #ls-servers 16:33 garywhite oh ok...If you don't mind me asking Baker, why did you lose it? 16:33 Baker But I will try (now that I know how) to connect to irc once in a while 16:33 longerstaff13 ok 16:34 Baker I failed to do some chores the other day because I was playing computer 16:34 longerstaff13 :/ 16:34 Baker Not very bright of me 16:35 longerstaff13 can DerpyCow still visit? 16:35 Baker He lost his too because he is even worse then me with computers 16:36 longerstaff13 XD oh no 16:36 Baker Oh yeah XD if I go down, we both go down. 16:36 longerstaff13 XD 16:37 Baker So, what's new on the server? 16:37 longerstaff13 a hacker :/ 16:38 Baker Uh oh, did he destroy anything? 16:38 longerstaff13 nah, he did however give himself privs and ban a few people, but I banned him b4 he could do worse 16:39 Baker Good, NO Hackers allowed 16:39 longerstaff13 exacto 16:39 longerstaff13 I'll brb 16:39 sfan5 lel 16:39 Baker Has he gotten back on yet? 16:40 sfan5 longerstaff13: if a "hacker" can manage to acquire ban privileges then you are doing something seriously wrong 16:41 red-001 that should be impossible... 16:41 red-001 unless he used social engineering 16:41 Baker No, not necessarily, hackers (to my knowledge) can pretty much get any private they want 16:41 red-001 a.k.a one of your admins gave him provs 16:41 red-001 privs* 16:41 Baker Who? 16:42 sfan5 Baker: no, sorry, they can't 16:42 Baker Oh, ok 16:42 Baker *Privilege 16:43 red-001 well he could in theory get access to the machine... 16:43 garywhite If he got access to the machine, then the same person hosts 10+ servers 16:43 red-001 but then he would be able to do a lot more 16:43 red-001 well sounds like someone gave him the privs 16:44 garywhite Plus, it's not like it's hosted at Yahoo 16:44 red-001 you got any logs of the incident? 16:44 red-001 he might have exploited a poorly made mod.... 16:47 Baker Ughh, where I live we are getting temps in the - 40f: ( 16:47 garywhite :/ 16:49 rickmcfarley I thought we had it bad with -1f 16:50 Baker Or were, last night.... now it's come up to like 0f with windmills around- 20 16:50 Baker *Windchills 16:52 DerpyCow \JOIN 16:53 DerpyCow ... 16:53 garywhite Hi DerpyCow 16:53 DerpyCow Hi 16:53 Baker You r on derpy 16:53 Baker *Your 16:54 DerpyCow How u doing? 16:54 DerpyCow Yep I am 16:54 DerpyCow ? 16:56 DerpyCow Baker's AFP 16:56 DerpyCow :away fom 16:56 DerpyCow Phone 16:56 DerpyCow *from 17:04 DerpyCow Back 17:06 DerpyCow Gary? 17:06 DerpyCow U there? 17:07 longerstaff13 ? 17:08 DerpyCow Is Gary still here? 17:08 longerstaff13 dunno 17:08 longerstaff13 garywhite: ^ 17:08 DerpyCow Kk 17:10 DerpyCow Hi baker! 17:10 Baker Hi 17:10 DerpyCow =) 17:11 Baker Longerstaff? Will you still be on mt fourms after you leave? 17:12 DerpyCow Long??? 17:12 garywhite Yes 17:13 DerpyCow LONGER? 17:13 DerpyCow Not gary 17:13 Baker Will longer still be on the fourms? 17:14 Baker I'll try to get connected on ls servers 17:50 Ducky Hi 18:53 juhdanad Is there a platformer mod for Minetest? 18:53 juhdanad I mean when you have to jump on the head of your enemies. 19:10 Fixer lol 19:10 juhdanad It was a serious question... 19:18 Fixer Mario Mod for minetest? 19:19 juhdanad Yes, why not? Digging and building nodes would be part of the gameplay, but in a limited form. 19:20 Persi[m] I think Mario 64 kinda taught us jumping on enemies in 3d doesn't quite work 19:21 Persi[m] But then Mario 3d land showed it does work if you have a stereoscopic screen and fixed camera... 19:24 Persi[m] It would require improving the client to make the third person camera not suck for platforming, and it would still be terrible underground and inside buildings 20:47 garywhite Has anyone heard of snapcraft? 20:47 garywhite http://snapcraft.io 20:47 est31 yes 20:47 est31 flatpak is better 20:47 est31 http://flatpak.org/ 20:48 garywhite Cause longerstaff13 usually gets 5-8 FPS using the regular MT build for Ubuntu (I think) but he's getting 40 FPS on an unofficial snapcraft snap 20:50 est31 well, thats probably caused by different configuration of the snap, and less caused by the actual snap process 20:50 est31 but whatever 21:00 longerstaff13 25-40FPS yes 21:11 whitephoenix Reminder that testjam 2016 starts tommorow at 10am PST 21:13 garywhite whitephoenix have you gotten any official entries? 21:13 whitephoenix No it hasn't started yet 21:13 whitephoenix hopefully I can get gentoo setup by then 21:14 garywhite Shouldn't you start finding out who plans to compete and have a preliminary list of contestants? If you use something like Google Forms, that can export the list to a Microsoft Excel (*.xlsx) file 22:25 Fixer config may be different 22:25 Fixer it may also contain superfl shader PR that was merged recently that greatly enhances fps 23:33 kaeza VanessaE, around? 23:50 kaeza VanessaE, https://github.com/minetest-technic/item_tweaks/issues/3#issuecomment-267723647