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kaeza |
STHGOM, I pushed a some fixes to wiki mod to support mod security. Feel free to report any issues |
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kaeza |
you will need to add `wiki` to `secure.trusted_mods` |
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STHGOM |
great, thanks! |
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STHGOM |
so was that the problem i was having |
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STHGOM |
i guess ill see |
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freemint |
Hi guys it is urgent can you tell me where i need to place .me files to be able to load them a world |
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iska |
if you talking about we files put them in worlds/yourservernamehere/schems by default |
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freemint |
using local installation so world-mane instead od wserver name |
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freemint |
??? |
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iska |
worldname = yourservername |
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freemint_ |
th |
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freemint_ |
thx |
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iska |
np, goin sleep now 3am ;) \o |
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garywhite |
Why hasn't anyone released MT to the Amazon store? |
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emunandPC |
there is no need to |
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emunandPC |
amazon's OS is based on Android |
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emunandPC |
just install F-Droid on there and download Minetest |
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garywhite |
True, but it would get more publicity... |
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garywhite |
Plus if the community wanted to make some money, the Underground program could make quite a bit of money for the devs if the game gets popular |
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emunandPC |
underground program? |
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garywhite |
Basically, Amazon Underground is a program that devs can opt their apps into that pays them based on how much the app is used |
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emunandPC |
do the devs know about this? |
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garywhite |
Probably not yet. Why? |
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emunandPC |
like you said, this could help the devs out |
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garywhite |
nvm...You have to have in-app purchases to qualify :( |
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emunandPC |
then let's just keep it as a normal app |
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emunandPC |
people could just donate to the devs directly |
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emunandPC |
they should add a bitcoin or litecoin address |
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emunandPC |
would it be a bad idea to sign up for a developer account and port Minetest for Android to the Amazon App Store? |
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emunandPC |
or is that okay if i say i am just a maintainer of the package? |
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garywhite |
Have to ask #minetest-dev |
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mootpoint |
wait so #minetest-dev is for engine development? |
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emunandPC |
i guess |
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mootpoint |
:) they say you learn something new everyday right? |
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mootpoint |
i have a rather strange question to ask, what color is a gingerbread man in hex or rgb? |
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JamesTait |
Good mornng all! Happy Thursday, happy Cat Herders' Day, and happy International Tea Day! 😃 🈠☕ |
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DFeniks |
my minetest hung up and i cant even kill it in any way i know , in kubuntu system monitor says its in disk sleep (whatever that means) i compiled it in 12 december i think |
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DFeniks |
ouch , and my cat is pulling on my mouse cord and piercing fingers |
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DFeniks |
i dunno wby i even writing this , because i doubt i would write error report or anything . anyway i wonder how to kill that window now |
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DFeniks |
never mind , it died eventually |
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Out`Of`Control |
client? |
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DFeniks |
im not sure , it was singleplayer and i launched it with DRI_PRIME=1 ./bin/minetest to use my primary video device (i have one of thouse switchable things i dont really sure how its really called) and after it freezed i did sensors and saw that it is off so i thought game already died , but window was still on and frozen |
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DFeniks |
on second thought maybe i should have googled more about that command before use |
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DFeniks |
and this have actually happened twice actually |
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DFeniks |
meh whatever |
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sfan5 |
DFeniks: disk sleep means it is currently waiting for an IO operation |
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sfan5 |
you cannot kill it during that |
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DuCake |
Hello - for some reason my server is not loading a certain couple of mods (most visibly, "mobs" and "zmobs") causing a cascade of non-loading mods. |
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DuCake |
The reason for it however I cannot find - all mods are installed, all mods required are marked active in the world.mt and present in the mods folder, I checked the permissions on the folders and did chown -R the appropriate user (the same I am launching minetest as) but to no avail.... I ran it once with "--info --verbose" but that doesn't seem to tell me why the specific mods are not loading... |
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DuCake |
Change that happened previous - I did a git pull on tenplus1/mobs_redo -- but it shows no conflicts and the minetest log reveals that it didn't even try to load that mod ? |
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DuCake |
Env: Ubuntu 16.04 x64 |
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DuCake |
Minetest: Build info: VER=0.4.14-dev-fb20b45-dirty BUILD_TYPE=Release RUN_IN_PLACE=1 USE_GETTEXT=0 USE_SOUND=1 USE_CURL=1 USE_FREETYPE=1 USE_LUAJIT=0 STATIC_SHAREDIR="." |
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DuCake |
http://pastebin.com/NAY73nLR |
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sfan5 |
(you could've linked the log entry for -dev instead of pasting that wall of text again) |
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sfan5 |
generally trying to run two mob mods at the same time isn't the best idea |
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sfan5 |
also is zmobs a modpack or a single mod? |
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DuCake |
didn't know it was live-logged |
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DuCake |
zmobs is a mod pack with a "zmobs" mod in it |
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DuCake |
they haven't been a problem before for the 5 or szo months we've had this server up. .. |
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DuCake |
and some mods request/require zmobs so .... OK I'll go edit them to remove zmobs dependency , though I doubt that's it - I would have otherwise expected a name conflict to register. In this case, the mods don't load at all (mobs:meat used to be registered, now not registering at all |
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sfan5 |
what happens when you move the mods you want to a "worldmods" folder in the world folder? |
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DuCake |
never come across that mechanic yet - is that literlayy a ./worlds/world/worldmods dir ? will try |
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sfan5 |
yes |
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DuCake |
oh |
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DuCake |
I think I see it .... |
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DuCake |
mobs_redo and lucky_block seem to depend on eachother...... |
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DuCake |
that did it |
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DuCake |
I can't believe I missed that, apologies for flooding both channel;s :-/ |
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IhrFussel |
Let's say I have a mod called "xyz" now I want to display a JPG image inside an image formspec "pic.jpg" I define in init.lua ... do I have to move the image to xyz/textures? Or does it need to be in the mod directory? |
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IhrFussel |
Cause right now pic.jpg is in xyz/textures and the engine says "generation error" |
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Jordach |
hint: all textures need to be in PNG format |
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Jordach |
and inside the textures folder |
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IhrFussel |
Jordach, sfan5 told me the engine supports JPG |
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IhrFussel |
And the file is inside the textures folder...it's at xyz/pic.jpg and in my formspec inside init.lua I have "image[0,6;8,3;pic.jpg]" |
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IhrFussel |
xyz/textures/pic.jpg* |
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DuCake |
if you have mod xyz and image in xyz/textures/pic.jpg then you should be able to just reference xyz.jpg |
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DuCake |
the formsepc syntax expects itesms in a certain order though so if it's not displaying check you have added all the parameters |
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DuCake |
and yes JPG is supported |
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IhrFussel |
DuCake, it is showing the formspec ingame just not the image..it says error generating pic.jpg |
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DuCake |
that said I know this holds for the form background.... not particularly tested individual items but I believe it should follow similarly |
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IhrFussel |
But I see a placeholder image (various colors) |
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DuCake |
try background[x,y;x2,y2;texturename.jpg] |
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DuCake |
try background[x,y;w,h;texturename.jpg] rather |
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IhrFussel |
DuCake, is background[] the same as image[]? |
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DuCake |
background sets the background of the form |
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DuCake |
iI haven't played around wmuch with formspecs in a while, but this may or may not help https://github.com/taikedz/minetest-formspeccer/blob/master/form.lua |
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IhrFussel |
Nope still doesn't work...it downloads the image but doesn't display it "error generating image" |
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garywhite |
Take a look at this guys https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=16045 |
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twoelk |
that shuold probably be linked to all them similar discussions that have sprung up over the years |
| 18:14 |
garywhite |
They said about adding mesecons to minetest_game, but I said that would cause a massive increase in lag and in resource usage, especially on lower-end systems |
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twoelk |
in the end most list all the stuff that one would expect in a mc clone |
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IhrFussel |
garywhite, I don't see how the devs can think it's fine that torches make cheating possible...have no air left underwater? Just place a torch and the water is gone |
| 18:15 |
twoelk |
that's not a bug, that is and always has been a feature |
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IhrFussel |
Feature? It's a VERY weird behavior and most people would see it as bug I'm sure |
| 18:16 |
twoelk |
you use torches and papyrus (and slabs) to do stuff under water |
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IhrFussel |
The devs could add other items for that stuff...items that actually remove water in a senseful way |
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mootpoint |
i use torches to clear out underwater domes, well, before we got the scaffolding mod |
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* twoelk |
awaits for spongebob to appear |
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mootpoint |
ihrFussel: there was a sponge mod i saw a while back , but i dont think the devs would like to put that into default |
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* garywhite |
decides to just leave this conversation to mootpoint, twoelk & IhrFussel |
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mootpoint |
garywhite: you started it get back in here! |
| 18:20 |
garywhite |
Um I said about mesecons not being able to go into minetest_game cause of lag, Ihr started the torch conversation |
| 18:21 |
twoelk |
I find the wheat-flour-seeds complex or the iron-steel-bronze enigma more disturbing for my version of percieved reality in a videogame |
| 18:21 |
IhrFussel |
mootpoint, doesn't have to be a sponge, there are a lot of things that are made to remove/reduce water, but yeah the devs only add the most barebone contents |
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agaran |
good afternoon |
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mootpoint |
what is the wheat-flour-seeds complex and the iron-steel-bronze enigma? |
| 18:21 |
twoelk |
well that was the idea - keep the base game simple |
| 18:22 |
mootpoint |
ihrFussel: i like using scaffolding, you can breath underwater, you can almost completely see through it, and it breaks in one hit |
| 18:23 |
twoelk |
ingame you make flour from bushels of cut wheat and seeds drop randomly when harvesting |
| 18:23 |
IhrFussel |
I don't think adding a few more items to default that make sense would make the mod heavy |
| 18:24 |
mootpoint |
i dont either, however, the heaviness was the suggestion of making mesecons default, that would be way to much for just the vanilla |
| 18:24 |
IhrFussel |
We are not talking about ABMs, animations etc |
| 18:24 |
twoelk |
and bronze is harder than iron |
| 18:24 |
IhrFussel |
At least not when it's about removing water* |
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mootpoint |
twoelk: on Fozland we have a threshing floor that you get seeds from and a mill to grind seeds into flour. that makes a whole lot more sense than the default.. however we still get the seed drops from wheat. also i dont use bronze often so dont have much input on that |
| 18:25 |
twoelk |
I don't think much should be added to mt-game in the near future but rather the existing gameplay and balance reorganized and tweaked |
| 18:26 |
IhrFussel |
mootpoint, no I agree there...mesecons should not be default cause they really cause LOTS of lag...but a simple node/item without timers doesn't |
| 18:26 |
twoelk |
yeah, I think WildesLand also has a better system regarding wheat |
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mootpoint |
ihrFussel: what were we arguing about again? just kidding... but seriously, what item do you suggest to remove water that would be as fast and as cheap as torches |
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* twoelk |
makes a note to visit Fozland |
| 18:28 |
mootpoint |
twoelk: if it helps you can earn fly after 60 days :) |
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IhrFussel |
mootpoint, maybe not an item to remove water but rather one that lets you breath underwater in a way |
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twoelk |
I guess the point is some people consider it wrong to be easy to replace water |
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mootpoint |
well its not that easy, since water replicates, you have to fill the entire are with whatever node, then remove |
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IhrFussel |
I'm thinking about a "tool" that has uses |
| 18:29 |
twoelk |
hehe, nope, mootpoint, wont have that much time for a single server, all them others would miss me |
| 18:29 |
mootpoint |
we had a discussion about adding a mod called gillyweed, from the harry potter series, which would add a plant that lets you breathe underwater |
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mootpoint |
twoelk, 60 days account age, 8 hours play time |
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twoelk |
there is a scuba mod somewhere |
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mootpoint |
wasnt the scuba mod buggy or was it fixed and i didnt see it? |
| 18:30 |
twoelk |
oops, never used it - I love using torches and papyrus |
| 18:31 |
twoelk |
and recently slabs and pillars |
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mootpoint |
ill make a note to look at the scuba mod, its over 3 years old maybe i can polish it up enough that we could stop using torches |
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mootpoint |
all right well its off to work with me :) yall have a good evening |
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sfan5 |
IhrFussel: does it work when you convert it to PNG? |
| 18:55 |
sfan5 |
if yes that's a bug |
| 18:55 |
sfan5 |
if not something else is wrong |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, do you know some command line tool for Ubuntu that can convert JPG to PNG? |
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sfan5 |
convert |
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agaran |
IhrFussel: if you have imagemagick installed, then 'convert' |
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sfan5 |
(yes its called that) |
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IhrFussel |
How should I use it? the man page of convert is full of options |
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emuPhone |
you could use gimp to convert image files |
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agaran |
convert foo.png foo.jpg I think.. |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, I think it worked..it copies and converts right? |
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agaran |
IhrFussel: it converts simply leaving source intact |
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agaran |
you can try file foo.png and foo.jpg |
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agaran |
or identify foo.png, identify foo.jpg |
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agaran |
(identify comes with ImageMagick too) |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, the PNG one is FIVE times larger than the JPG file o.o |
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agaran |
well PNG isn't lossy format as far as I know, jpg is lossy |
| 19:11 |
est31 |
yeah |
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agaran |
also it uses different palette width too, png can go up to 48bit one iirc |
| 19:11 |
est31 |
use PNG instead of jpeg |
| 19:11 |
est31 |
jpeg is not good for a game like minetest |
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IhrFussel |
But the image adds 3 MB to the mods file size now... |
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agaran |
what resolution it is then? |
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IhrFussel |
How do I see the resolution? identify? |
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agaran |
yes |
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IhrFussel |
PNG 1920x1280 1920x1280+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 3.334MB |
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IhrFussel |
I need a command to change the resolution I guess... |
| 19:15 |
garywhite |
What about Bitmap? |
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IhrFussel |
convert -resample gemetry? |
| 19:17 |
IhrFussel |
geometry* I don't know how to write the geometry values |
| 19:20 |
IhrFussel |
convert gives me too many options... -resize -sample -resample..... |
| 19:21 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: what is that image? |
| 19:22 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, a Christmas pic supposed to be shown on login |
| 19:22 |
agaran |
oh, I thought it is some public mod so I could help with resize |
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agaran |
I'd go either for convert -resize or use gimp to do work |
| 19:24 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, so just convert pic.png -resize 50% ? |
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IhrFussel |
Or even 25%? |
| 19:27 |
garywhite |
Hello DuCake |
| 19:27 |
DuCake |
hello garywhite |
| 19:29 |
IhrFussel |
Seems like it worked: PNG 480x320 480x320+0+0 8-bit DirectClass 238KB |
| 19:33 |
IhrFussel |
Here is the exact error when using the JPG file: Could not load image while creating texture |
| 19:34 |
IhrFussel |
I'll test it with the PNG file as soon as my server isn't full of players anymore |
| 19:36 |
twoelk |
hm, I use a jpg as background in the news mod |
| 19:38 |
IhrFussel |
twoelk, just to make sure: Your file is inside the textures folder of your mod? And you define the form inside init.lua as "image[X,Y;W,H;image.jpg]" ? |
| 19:38 |
twoelk |
uhm |
| 19:38 |
twoelk |
formspec = formspec.."background[-0.22,-0.60;13,11.3;news_background.jpg]" |
| 19:39 |
IhrFussel |
And news_background.jpg is in textures folder? |
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twoelk |
yep |
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IhrFussel |
wait...does the image name HAVE TO contain the mod name? |
| 19:40 |
VanessaE |
it's highly advised. |
| 19:42 |
IhrFussel |
Okay I renamed it now |
| 19:43 |
DuCake |
it doesn't functionally have to; as i understand it's a way to avoid name clashes... |
| 19:43 |
DuCake |
namespacing |
| 19:43 |
VanessaE |
basically that, yes |
| 19:44 |
IhrFussel |
But do I use background[] even if I want the image to be in the foreground? |
| 19:44 |
VanessaE |
that's how it works for formspecs more or less. it's the "background" that goes behind other widgets |
| 19:45 |
VanessaE |
look at signs_lib's text entry formspec for an example |
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IhrFussel |
VanessaE, but smartshop mod uses image[] for item display and it works correctly |
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IhrFussel |
What i want is an image that is only displayed below some other text form so I thought image[] would be better for that task |
| 19:47 |
twoelk |
looks like this ingame blob:https://imgur.com/b4b3d7a0-7e1e-45d0-946f-05c275e5e66e or rather used to as I have changed the splashscreen since |
| 19:49 |
twoelk |
https://i.imgur.com/79N3KMx.jpg oops |
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twoelk |
as you can clearly see at the top, a badly shrunk jpg |
| 19:51 |
twoelk |
artifacts all over the place |
| 19:53 |
DuCake |
ihrfussel i can imagine, you can make a large formspec, add a label around 1,1 and then just load your image as "background" |
| 19:53 |
twoelk |
that's how the info mod does it |
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twoelk |
I used the news mod from here: https://github.com/Bremaweb/news |
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twoelk |
pff not my linking day today ; wrong link it seems |
| 20:01 |
twoelk |
https://github.com/MinetestForFun/server-minetestforfun/tree/master/mods/news thats the one |
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* twoelk |
notices new functions in that mod |
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IhrFussel |
twoelk, PNG file works so I guess it's a bug |
| 20:23 |
twoelk |
hm, maybe a new bug as I use that mod on my Isarnho server which runs an old mt-0414version |
| 20:24 |
twoelk |
(server has not run for long for some time now) |
| 20:24 |
IhrFussel |
My server runs 0.4.14-dev from Oct |
| 20:25 |
octacian |
from Oct? lol who's Oct? |
| 20:25 |
twoelk |
some guy with too many arms? |
| 20:25 |
octacian |
:rotfl: |
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octacian |
(not) |
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octacian |
seriously, who's Oct? |
| 20:26 |
twoelk |
or, using old roman tradition; the eighth sibling born |
| 20:27 |
twoelk |
Juno and Julius have probably shifted the eighth month to tenth though - so that doesn't fit anymore |
| 20:29 |
octacian |
wuh? |
| 20:29 |
octacian |
ok, I do know my history, but just wuh? |
| 20:29 |
Amaz |
That is a shame twoelk. It can be confusing, with the old seventh month as the new ninth, and so forth. |
| 20:30 |
* twoelk |
is bored at office so he might be talking/typing rubish |
| 20:30 |
Amaz |
Nah, not at all. It all makes perfect sense ;) |
| 20:32 |
emuPhone |
Oct is not a name, it's a shorter way of saying octopus |
| 20:32 |
octacian |
ok, now, WHAT? |
| 20:32 |
emuPhone |
he got his server from an octopus |
| 20:32 |
octacian |
so, IhrFussel got his server from an octopus.. |
| 20:32 |
octacian |
ok, now, I AM CONFUSED. lol |
| 20:33 |
emuPhone |
octopi are extremely smart |
| 20:33 |
emuPhone |
they have created waterproof computers |
| 20:33 |
twoelk |
and they got their hands in a lot of things |
| 20:33 |
emuPhone |
and they tap into the internet lines in the sea |
| 20:33 |
emuPhone |
and downloaded minetest |
| 20:33 |
twoelk |
they simply got more- er--- arms |
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IhrFussel |
The octopus built it by "hand" :P |
| 20:34 |
octacian |
ok, nvm. |
| 20:35 |
* twoelk |
suspects Cthulhu might be behind this |
| 20:35 |
emuPhone |
they compiled it by seaource |
| 20:36 |
IhrFussel |
twoelk, you didn't visit my server since...Oct xD |
| 20:36 |
Amaz |
xD |
| 20:36 |
twoelk |
really? |
| 20:37 |
IhrFussel |
Since octopus took over |
| 20:38 |
IhrFussel |
Yeah I added quite a few mods in that time plus many new commands |
| 20:40 |
twoelk |
I think the last thing I did was fix some stuff of the path and hut next to my house and wondering wether I should look for new land as all my nieghbors built rather close |
| 20:40 |
twoelk |
the place has become somewhat crowded |
| 20:41 |
IhrFussel |
twoelk, we built an entirely new Spawn area that just opened today...you'd surely find an empty place for some building xP |
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* twoelk |
can't find the song the octopus sang while building the raft in Misty The Mischievous Mermaid |
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IhrFussel |
twoelk, I also improved the level up messages...now all level ups are merged into a single message and it will appear MAX once per 5 minutes |
| 20:52 |
twoelk |
ah, I remember that spaming chat |
| 20:54 |
IhrFussel |
And I added a command to hide/show player messages |
| 20:55 |
IhrFussel |
And another that enables "moon physics" and lets you jump 20 nodes high |
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agaran |
Hmm, moon physics sounds fun, do you need airtight suit to breathe too? |
| 20:58 |
IhrFussel |
Lol haha...no it's just the way people jump that's modified but it's fun |
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agaran |
and then, 'mare vaporum' 'mare imbirum' ?;) |
| 20:59 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, falling 200 nodes without any damage :D |
| 20:59 |
* twoelk |
finds out the singer of Ocky's song was also the voice actor for the Daleks in Dr.Who |
| 21:00 |
agaran |
IhrFussel :) sounds like fun |
| 21:01 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, you didn't visit in a while either ._. |
| 21:01 |
agaran |
yes... now my computer can do 3-6fps at best.. |
| 21:01 |
agaran |
not overly appealing to do anything.. |
| 21:01 |
IhrFussel |
What happened? |
| 21:02 |
agaran |
had to return gfx I had |
| 21:02 |
* twoelk |
will be visiting family over the holidays - in remote places with slow internet |
| 21:03 |
IhrFussel |
Graphics card? |
| 21:03 |
agaran |
yep |
| 21:03 |
IhrFussel |
Purchase a cheaper one for now |
| 21:04 |
agaran |
sure if I find fitting one that does not cost arm and leg (has to be passive cooling and no external power connector) |
| 21:04 |
* twoelk |
is therefor looking forward to long evenings with board games - or cards with nice graphics on them |
| 21:04 |
agaran |
twoelk: like magic the gathering ?;) |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, got a phone/tablet? Play there x) |
| 21:05 |
octacian |
I've got a $180 GTX 750Ti, get's me 60fps with all shader setting on. |
| 21:05 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: phone has win CE 6.1.. ;) so.. -noway, no tablet either |
| 21:05 |
agaran |
octacian: no point to put card that will double power consumption of machine I have nearly 99% of time running, where I only sometimes play in MT.. |
| 21:06 |
octacian |
true.. |
| 21:06 |
IhrFussel |
Just compile Minetest for your Win Phone...shouldn't be too hard /s |
| 21:06 |
twoelk |
I really wish I had the time and will to pimp my old computers - such nice cases and motherboards so outdated |
| 21:07 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: for WIN CE 6.1? |
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octacian |
I wonder how much power my tower draws... 700W power supply almost 24/7.. |
| 21:07 |
agaran |
octacian: mine has I think 160W psu.. ;) |
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octacian |
ok... lol |
| 21:07 |
IhrFussel |
agaran, I'm not serious by the way xD |
| 21:07 |
agaran |
twoelk: thats other thing.. I have way too many computers stashed in places I did not even powerup in past decade.. |
| 21:07 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: ah.. |
| 21:09 |
IhrFussel |
I'm using an Intel Celeron from 2005 as my everyday computer in 2016 |
| 21:10 |
twoelk |
I did away with three old towers some time ago, still got two useless ones left. Not counting my ancient 386sx that I just can't do awy with as it was my first computer worth the name |
| 21:10 |
octacian |
agaran: what are the full specs of your computer? |
| 21:11 |
twoelk |
IhrFussel: my everyday computer was an oudtated cheap one purchased in 2007 :-D |
| 21:12 |
agaran |
octacian: this one? HP Compaq dc5800 Microtower with E8200 @ 2.66GHz |
| 21:12 |
octacian |
huh not too bad honestly |
| 21:12 |
agaran |
it is not bad, just onboard graphics is disaster |
| 21:12 |
octacian |
yeah. |
| 21:13 |
agaran |
and 8200 was one of best cpu in that family.. |
| 21:13 |
octacian |
At least they work at all, unlike my server. that's why it's a server. |
| 21:13 |
twoelk |
I use portable software most of the time so I can just plug my work environment into some badass pc at office and do the demanding stuff there |
| 21:13 |
IhrFussel |
A player on my server just requested their password to be changed to "12345" x.x |
| 21:13 |
agaran |
twoelk: heh, I wish I could do that.. @work I can easilly grab something with two 8 core/16thread xeons, 128-256G ram.. |
| 21:14 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: I would change it, just first convert it to base85 at least..;) |
| 21:14 |
twoelk |
agaran: what software do you need portable? |
| 21:15 |
agaran |
twoelk: it is not problem with software, I use linux so.. I can recompile 99.999% of world.. |
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IhrFussel |
agaran, lol...the funny part is I already changed the password yesterday and the player found it too complicated to remember I guess |
| 21:15 |
agaran |
it is just IT policy there.. and I am not so keen to drag my stuff to work and back.. |
| 21:16 |
agaran |
IhrFussel: looool :) too complicated, as having 32 characters? |
| 21:16 |
twoelk |
well, I do the IT at office ... so ... |
| 21:16 |
agaran |
twoelk: /me too, how otherwise I would be toying with set of machines that together has 2TB ram and 1PB hdd.. |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
I can easily grab at work Pentium III and Windows 98 SE |
| 21:17 |
twoelk |
although I was never hired for that - some 15 years ago |
| 21:17 |
IhrFussel |
No it's also just numbers but not as easy as 12345 at least...I always tell my players to always include at least 1 letter and several numbers |
| 21:17 |
agaran |
IDDQD and IDKFA make fine passwords..;) |
| 21:17 |
garywhite |
back |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
no |
| 21:17 |
agaran |
(if anyone still remembers doom codes) |
| 21:17 |
Fixer |
they are easily brutforced |
| 21:18 |
agaran |
Fixer, ^^ |
| 21:18 |
octacian |
The most annoying thing about my computer is the RAM. Though it has 8GB, it's only 1067 MGhz... |
| 21:18 |
agaran |
Fixer, I have been using john the ripper 10 years ago..;) |
| 21:18 |
Fixer |
tell your players to use PWGEN |
| 21:18 |
agaran |
and I do use pwgen daily.. so.. |
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| 21:18 |
Fixer |
some people even use 1 as a password |
| 21:18 |
Fixer |
in minetest |
| 21:19 |
Fixer |
and in other applications |
| 21:19 |
twoelk |
bah - think some sentance and use that for password |
| 21:19 |
IhrFussel |
Sometimes I fear that one of my moderators or another player with more privs chose an easy one for the account... |
| 21:19 |
twoelk |
swat7d <- snow white and the 7 dwarves |
| 21:20 |
garywhite |
octacian: Your PC has only 1067MHz CPU? |
| 21:20 |
octacian |
garywhite: no.. RAM. |
| 21:20 |
agaran |
garywhite: not that odd, some atom or similar energy-efficient things have relativelly low clock |
| 21:20 |
garywhite |
ohhh ok |
| 21:21 |
agaran |
octacian: then some of your ram is slow.. grab dmidecode, check which one.. |
| 21:21 |
octacian |
cpu is Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz |
| 21:21 |
octacian |
agaran: AFAIK both 4GB sticks are both slow. I need to get new RAM, but that's expensive... lol |
| 21:21 |
agaran |
my box was unstable with uneven memory populated across banks.. even if manual says it works.. |
| 21:21 |
garywhite |
Oh ok, wow. Mine is Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz |
| 21:21 |
twoelk |
maybe it has just become dusty and will fail soon :-O |
| 21:21 |
agaran |
heh. new toys |
| 21:22 |
garywhite |
octacian it doesn't cost that much for RAM... |
| 21:22 |
octacian |
Note that the CPU has 8 cores, 4 real, 4 virtual. |
| 21:22 |
APileOfStickz1 |
How have I quit the server |
| 21:23 |
agaran |
garywhite: say that after looking at ECC ram prices.. ;) |
| 21:23 |
agaran |
(and some boards apparently -want- ecc ddr3 only..) |
| 21:23 |
octacian |
garywhite: depends on how fast you want the RAM to be. and how much you want... |
| 21:24 |
* twoelk |
hasn't oppened a pc case in ages |
| 21:24 |
* agaran |
does that often.. |
| 21:25 |
* octacian |
thinks he has to open a PC case too much... |
| 21:25 |
agaran |
too much, you mean, it is easier to put rotating door instead of side of enclosure to not stop you from opening it?;) |
| 21:26 |
octacian |
that'd be nice... Rather than having to take out two screws for each side. |
| 21:26 |
agaran |
well.. I am used to need to pull thing out of 19" rack first.. then opening it.. so.. |
| 21:26 |
twoelk |
oh there are some nice quick opening ones |
| 21:26 |
agaran |
screws aren't stopping me much |
| 21:27 |
twoelk |
I still have one with some lever you pulled |
| 21:29 |
IhrFussel |
Off for now, bye =) |
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twoelk |
undtschuess |
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kaeza |
greetings |
| 22:43 |
emunandPC |
hello |
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Ducky1 |
Hello |
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garywhite |
Hi |
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longerstaff13 |
hi |
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PsychoVision |
Also hi |
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Markow |
Hi |
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as2j |
hi |
| 23:21 |
as2j |
first time minetest (and minecraft) player here |
| 23:21 |
as2j |
so i installed on my private server the minetestserver package |
| 23:21 |
as2j |
started it and it runs |
| 23:21 |
as2j |
now how can i configure that not everybody can join? |
| 23:25 |
est31 |
you can set a default password |
| 23:25 |
est31 |
and only tell it to people who you know |
| 23:26 |
est31 |
also make sure to make it not announce on the serverlist |
| 23:26 |
est31 |
both are settings in minetest.conf |
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as2j |
i set default_password = testpassword |
| 23:35 |
as2j |
and ran the server with: minetestserver --gameid minetest --config /etc/minetest/minetest.conf |
| 23:35 |
as2j |
however i still can join with no password :( |
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as2j |
oh no it seems only to be for the user which already connected before i required it |
| 23:37 |
as2j |
so how to delete so the server doesnt know this user existed? |
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GreenDimond |
i am trying to build the latest dev. i allready have an older build of the dev. It isn't working. Please see this post (by me): https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=15994&p=242474#p242474 and help :( |
| 23:43 |
Fixer |
as2j: you join as a simple player? or as admin? |
| 23:43 |
Fixer |
nevermind |
| 23:43 |
as2j |
simple player |
| 23:43 |
Fixer |
it should work |
| 23:44 |
as2j |
where does it store its known players? |
| 23:44 |
as2j |
so i can just remove that file |
| 23:45 |
GreenDimond |
under the 'players' folder in 'YOURWORLD' folder in 'worlds'. |
| 23:45 |
GreenDimond |
thats where that is |
| 23:45 |
GreenDimond |
i am assuming that is what you r talking about :P |
| 23:46 |
as2j |
thanks |
| 23:46 |
GreenDimond |
np :) |
| 23:46 |
emunandPC |
testing |
| 23:47 |
emunandPC |
okay let me try again |
| 23:47 |
GreenDimond |
can anyone help meh? |
| 23:47 |
emunandPC |
why is /g/ here? |
| 23:47 |
emunandPC |
reeeeee normies |
| 23:47 |
emunandPC |
what are you using GreenDiamond? |
| 23:47 |
GreenDimond |
xubuntu |
| 23:47 |
emunandPC |
then just install the package |
| 23:47 |
GreenDimond |
you did not read the forum post |
| 23:48 |
as2j |
and i cannot set my password as a normal user via /setpassword ? |
| 23:48 |
GreenDimond |
or you would know what my problem is |
| 23:49 |
emunandPC |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 |
| 23:49 |
emunandPC |
here you go greendiamond |
| 23:49 |
GreenDimond |
not MT GAME |
| 23:49 |
emunandPC |
this shoild help you |
| 23:49 |
GreenDimond |
MT DEV |
| 23:49 |
GreenDimond |
devel version |
| 23:49 |
GreenDimond |
latest |
| 23:49 |
emunandPC |
this is MT DEV |
| 23:49 |
GreenDimond |
unstable |
| 23:50 |
emunandPC |
it should be |
| 23:50 |
GreenDimond |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds |
| 23:50 |
GreenDimond |
daily |
| 23:50 |
emunandPC |
yes i know |
| 23:50 |
emunandPC |
the command pulls it from git |
| 23:50 |
emunandPC |
which is updated daily |
| 23:51 |
GreenDimond |
but that command replaces the stable MT does it not? |
| 23:51 |
emunandPC |
no, it doesn't |
| 23:52 |
emunandPC |
it just matters where you run it |
| 23:52 |
emunandPC |
just use the portable edition |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
|:| |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
wow |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
you are no help |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
i allready have minetest |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
i allready have stable |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
and i have daily |
| 23:52 |
GreenDimond |
i want to UPDATE the daily ver |
| 23:53 |
emunandPC |
this is how you update it then! |
| 23:53 |
GreenDimond |
run cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) ? |
| 23:53 |
emunandPC |
no |
| 23:53 |
emunandPC |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=3837 |
| 23:53 |
emunandPC |
this forum post |
| 23:53 |
emunandPC |
"downloads and compiles Minetest Git" |
| 23:53 |
GreenDimond |
i know |
| 23:53 |
emunandPC |
the git is updated daily |
| 23:53 |
GreenDimond |
cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) is what it says |
| 23:54 |
GreenDimond |
"to update" @ bottom of post |
| 23:54 |
octacian |
GreenDimond: unless you compiled from source originally, you have to do it the other way. |
| 23:54 |
emunandPC |
i am talking about a different forum post |
| 23:54 |
emunandPC |
wait hold on |
| 23:55 |
GreenDimond |
hah. hah. hah. i am on that forum post. |
| 23:55 |
GreenDimond |
the one you linked. |
| 23:55 |
GreenDimond |
octacian: wat? |
| 23:55 |
emunandPC |
then use the portable install and move it manually |
| 23:56 |
emunandPC |
the bottom code doesn't seem to work |
| 23:56 |
emunandPC |
all it does is move the directory |
| 23:56 |
GreenDimond |
i orginally ran (to build daily): sudo apt-get install -y git build-essential libirrlicht-dev libgettextpo0 libfreetype6-dev cmake libbz2-dev libpng12-dev libjpeg8-dev libxxf86vm-dev libgl1-mesa-dev libsqlite3-dev libogg-dev libvorbis-dev libopenal-dev libcurl4-openssl-dev libluajit-5.1-dev liblua5.1-0-dev libleveldb-dev; cd; git clone https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git; cd minetest/games; git clone https://github.co |
| 23:56 |
as2j |
i can not script my player in minetest? |
| 23:56 |
emunandPC |
you can do it manually with a gui or the terminal |
| 23:56 |
GreenDimond |
rubenwardy said run this to update it: git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) |
| 23:57 |
GreenDimond |
but idk what to do with that. |
| 23:57 |
octacian |
GreenDimand: huh then the update command should work. did you move or delete the "minetest" directory? |
| 23:57 |
GreenDimond |
nope |
| 23:57 |
GreenDimond |
why would i do that |
| 23:57 |
GreenDimond |
octacian |
| 23:57 |
octacian |
well, then what error does the update command give you? |
| 23:57 |
GreenDimond |
what exactly IS the update command? |
| 23:58 |
GreenDimond |
how do I use git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) |
| 23:58 |
emunandPC |
what is the output of it? |
| 23:58 |
octacian |
cd minetest; git pull; make -j$(nproc) |
| 23:58 |
GreenDimond |
i paste it into terminal as is and that obviously aint right |
| 23:58 |
emunandPC |
does it say anything? |
| 23:58 |
octacian |
what do you mean it isn't right? Have you not even tried to see what the result is yet? |
| 23:58 |
emunandPC |
or does it do nothing? |
| 23:59 |
GreenDimond |
i pasted git pull origin master && make -j$(nproc) into terminal and it said stuff about repos git not found. lemme try what you said |
