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whitephoenix |
airsword best mod 2016 |
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MinetestBot |
[git] tenplus1 -> minetest/minetest: Builtin/../falling.lua: Code optimisation a468acc https://git.io/vPrRo (2016-10-14T02:12:32+01:00) |
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whitephoenix |
back to looking at this and I still don't see the problem with my deserialize setup, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/kFU4RfDx |
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kaeza |
whitephoenix, https://www.lua.org/pil/21.html |
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kaeza |
start fomr there ;) |
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whitephoenix |
alright |
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whitephoenix |
wait a second does "w" not allow reading? |
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kaeza |
uh no? |
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whitephoenix |
its weird that I'm having trouble with this, file io is pretty similar to python which I've used a bunch |
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kaeza |
I advise you read the full chapter |
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whitephoenix |
alright |
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whitephoenix |
free software at its finest http://i.imgur.com/F92RsNM.png |
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LittleRoaryTiger |
Lukc: ? |
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Megaf |
are you the same Lukc I think you are? |
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Lukc |
Megaf, I am. :o |
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Megaf |
Lukc: cool, Still playing Minetest? |
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Lukc |
Not really~. |
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Megaf |
I have to join my Yahoo/AIM/XMPP acctounts again... |
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Megaf |
Lukc: oh man |
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Megaf |
Lukc: you should xP |
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Megaf |
I'm building something weird on Nether |
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Megaf |
geometric stuff |
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Megaf |
Lukc: if you wish, we have now #MegafServer and the server itself is connected there, so people on the server can now exchange messages with people on IRC |
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Megaf |
meh, Emphaty on GNOME is super slow |
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Megaf |
This, I like this https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/ |
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Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Phacility - Phabricator |
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Megaf |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phabricator |
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Megaf |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
Megaf: Phabricator - Wikipedia |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy World Egg Day! 😃 🣠|
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Axord |
Time to cook some eggs. |
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Krock |
but who was first? the egg or the chicken? |
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Logo4poop |
On the mac version it's in a other language is that normal? |
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Krock |
mac is strange anyway |
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Krock |
what language do you get? what's expected? |
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Krock |
maybe you've modified the language setting in Minetest |
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whitephoenix |
there sure are a lot of mod release forum posts with broken image urls |
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garywhite |
whitephoenix: yes there |
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garywhite |
are* |
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keyboard4238 |
what is an oerkki |
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nm0i |
mob |
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keyboard4238 |
is it a product of imagination or is it based on something |
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keyboard4238 |
lol |
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Gamer |
Hi |
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keyboard4238 |
ok, i looked through the IRC logs and it appears to be a generic monster based on the Finnish word örkki, meaning orc |
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Krock |
keyboard4238, see also: http://wiki.minetest.net/Oerkki |
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keyboard4238 |
ty :) |
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Krock |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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keyboard4238 |
may i have a wiki account? |
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Krock |
keyboard4238, PM Calinou with your email and desired acc name |
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garywhite |
wb Don |
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garywhite |
Hey guys any idea what would be causing this? nomohakon says he can't type the 4 key in the MT client, but every other key works fine in MT |
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Krock |
another irrlicht issue? |
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Krock |
garywhite, maybe this issue? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/302 |
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Krock |
the one about specifically number 4 was closed |
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whitephoenix |
I read through the lua file i/o stuff and still don't see the problem with my mod, I tried doing some of this in a lua interpreter and it worked fine, I don't know why its not getting deserialized correctly |
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garywhite |
idk if that was the issue cause he won't say anything now, so I'll call that solved |
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garywhite |
!next |
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MinetestBot |
Another satisfied customer. Next! |
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sfan5 |
garywhite: which minetest version? |
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sfan5 |
and os? |
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whitephoenix |
this is probably getting annoying but I still don't see whats wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/59dbkHFm, deserialize is apparently returning nil and I have no idea why, io.read("*all") returns a string |
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sfan5 |
you should be loading it when the mod starts |
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sfan5 |
not with minetest.after |
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sfan5 |
>io.input(spark_file) |
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sfan5 |
>io.output(spark_file) |
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sfan5 |
don't do that |
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sfan5 |
it will break if other mods do the same |
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Krock |
whitephoenix, it MUST return a string, that's wanted |
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Krock |
but most likely it's formatted wrongly |
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sfan5 |
also i found your error |
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sfan5 |
you are opening the file for writing |
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sfan5 |
you can't read from it |
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whitephoenix |
...wow |
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sfan5 |
now sorry for being direct: your code is shit |
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sfan5 |
whitephoenix: http://sprunge.us/DZgS?lua |
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garywhite |
idk |
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sfan5 |
oh that's missing a load_sparks() at the end |
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whitephoenix |
Awesome thanks, some lua stuff is kind of hard to wrap my head around |
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whitephoenix |
been using python and nothing else for too long |
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sfan5 |
don't worry, you'll learn it as you use lua more |
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whitephoenix |
works flawlessly, thank you so much |
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garywhite |
ok on the keyboard issue (nomohakon is having the problem, not me) |
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garywhite |
It is Xubuntu 16.04 and MT 0.4.14 |
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swift110 |
hey garywhite |
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garywhite |
Hello swift110 |
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swift110 |
how are you garywhite |
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garywhite |
Good |
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Krock |
hey swift110, how are you? |
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agaran |
Hello |
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Krock |
hi agaran |
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swift110 |
hey Krock I am great |
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swift110 |
good to hear garywhite |
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Krock |
good :) |
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garywhite |
I'm gonna write an article on the forums about MC vs. MT. Since I've used the MC demo before, I think MT will win |
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whitephoenix |
FOSS > proprietary software, end of story for me |
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garywhite |
Um how old is Minetest 0.4.10? |
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sfan5 |
old |
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agaran |
i would say more like ancient? |
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sfan5 |
7th july 2014 |
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agaran |
two years can be lot of changes thats what I mean |
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garywhite |
Heh, I just found a server with nobody on it that runs 0.4.10 |
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whitephoenix |
inb4 debian |
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whitephoenix |
linuxmasterrace server runs on debian and had 0.4.10, I compiled a new one which solved a lot of mod errors |
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sfan5 |
small tip: don't run on any version that isn't the latest one |
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Krock |
whitephoenix, old image: http://i.imgur.com/VszPcHQ.png |
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whitephoenix |
"Bump version to 0.4.9 kwolekr committed on Jan 1, 2014" |
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sfan5 |
gameboom still existed in 2014? wow |
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whitephoenix |
alright I think I need to stop and focus on learning lua for a while before I do anything even more stupid |
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Krock |
I've checked an old server list back then and found these interesting servers. Too bad we haven't had the local saving to that time |
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sfan5 |
whitephoenix: the best way to learn lua is to write code |
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sfan5 |
if you already know the basics that it |
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Krock |
\o/ libreplanet is still online |
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red-001 |
whats the linuxmasterreace server called? |
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whitephoenix |
its not public but I can pm you the address |
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sfan5 |
that explains why i didn't find a post about it in /r/linuxmasterrace |
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Krock |
hello Tmanyo |
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Tmanyo |
hello |
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whitephoenix |
yeah its more on the irc |
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sfan5 |
how many people are playing on it rn? |
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whitephoenix |
4, I don't advertise it but people can join, I just want to keep it relaxed enough to not require a ton of rules and grief protection stuff |
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Krock |
nice idea |
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Krock |
until the word spreads and kids will come too |
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whitephoenix |
yeah I mean if someone griefs stuff I have backups and whatnot but I'd prefer to not have to do that at all |
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kruug |
Is there a way to offline edit a map? |
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kruug |
I stuck a torch below a stone node with a stack of sand on top. Broke the stone, and now I can't load my world. |
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sfan5 |
you're in for a ride |
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sfan5 |
what happens when you try to load it? |
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kruug |
Lua: Runtime error |
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sfan5 |
great |
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sfan5 |
anything more? |
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kruug |
https://i.imgur.com/HKnuM85.png |
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kruug |
yeah, sorry. Had to take a screenshot as there isn't a way to copy/paste out of the error box |
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sofar_ |
disable the mine_it_all module |
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sofar_ |
then try to load it again |
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kruug |
HAHAHA |
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kruug |
I think it was trying to mine ALL THE STONE! |
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kruug |
thanks sofar |
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swift110 |
hmm |
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kruug |
So, turning on debug info shows what I'm pointing_at...can that be accessed via the API? |
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Krock |
whitephoenix, is there an IRC channel for the server? |
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whitephoenix |
The irc channel is for the linuxmasterrace group, it's #linuxmasterrace @ snoonet |
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Krock |
nuh. not a new irc network again :< |
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whitephoenix |
I just have snoonet and freenode |
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Krock |
I have Inchra, Rizona and Freenode |
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Krock |
*Rizon |
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garywhite |
I have Inchra and Freenode |
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Leoneof |
why i'm here? |
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kruug |
How does one pre-generate a map? |
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kruug |
I'm sick of getting thrown out of my world because of technic, but I don't want to lose the mod... |
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sfan5 |
/emergeblocks |
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kruug |
hmmm....now to figure out which directions x, y, and z are... |
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sfan5 |
y is up-down |
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sfan5 |
just press f5 |
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kruug |
woo! |
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kruug |
crashed! |
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kruug |
not enough memory... |
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kruug |
thanks technic |
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kruug |
and that's the thing...it's not even using 40MB of memory...I'd like to dedicate 2GB of RAM to it, please :) |
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Krock |
maybe it's used by other applications? |
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kruug |
Without Minetest running, I'm using 7GB of 16GB RAM |
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kruug |
I think I can spare 2GB :) |
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garywhite |
Dude, what are you running that you're using 7GB? |
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kruug |
Might be the 15 tabs in Firefox |
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kruug |
yeah, Firefox is just over 1GB |
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kruug |
Edge is just over 1GB as well |
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sfan5 |
you're probably using a minetest with luaji |
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sfan5 |
luajit has a hard limit of 2gb |
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kruug |
Is there one without the LuaJIT? |
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sfan5 |
for windows, probably not |
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kruug |
I'm using the `Minetest 0.4.14 (Portable, 64-bit)` |
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sfan5 |
but generally, /emergeblocks shouldn't be crashing due to out-of-memory |
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sfan5 |
or did that error happen due to technic? |
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kruug |
It's the technic worldgen |
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paramat |
why Leoneof's back? |
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kruug |
"Lua: OOM error from mod 'technic_worldgen' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): not enough memory" |
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paramat |
emergeblocks will trigger lua mapgen |
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sfan5 |
ah |
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sfan5 |
what does technic do that it needs a custom worldgen? |
| 21:54 |
sfan5 |
kruug: do you want a build without luajit real quick? |
| 21:54 |
sfan5 |
i can make you one |
| 21:54 |
kruug |
Hmmm. I wonder if I download a non LuaJIT Linux version, emerge the map, and then move back to Windows... |
| 21:54 |
sfan5 |
nah |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
that's too complicated |
| 21:55 |
kruug |
Challenge Accepted! |
| 21:55 |
kruug |
0.2% emerged! |
| 21:55 |
sfan5 |
how did you move to linux that fast o.O |
| 21:56 |
kruug |
no, that's using Windows |
| 21:56 |
kruug |
though I could fire up my Linux laptop in about 30 seconds...but I have 4 minutes until I have to drive |
| 21:57 |
kruug |
Is there a Linux build without LuaJIT worldgen? I could load it up and just let it run all weekend |
| 21:58 |
sfan5 |
some distros build without luajit |
| 21:58 |
sfan5 |
but it's easy to just compile from source |
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| 22:05 |
kruug |
sfan5: if you have a non-LuaJIT for Windows, just so I can emerge 412776 blocks (chunks?) and then play with LuaJIT, that would be great |
| 22:06 |
sfan5 |
ready in a few mins |
| 22:08 |
kruug |
who decided that Lua was a good language? |
| 22:09 |
Calinou |
kruug: no real alternatives were present back in November 2011 |
| 22:09 |
Calinou |
(and I don't think there's any now) |
| 22:09 |
kruug |
No? |
| 22:10 |
xunto |
Calinou: python? |
| 22:10 |
kruug |
wouldn't python be an alternative? |
| 22:10 |
xunto |
lol |
| 22:10 |
sfan5 |
oh fuck i accidentally uploaded it |
| 22:10 |
kruug |
jinx! |
| 22:10 |
Calinou |
too large to be embedded |
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| 22:11 |
kruug |
sfan5: O.O |
| 22:11 |
kruug |
uploaded...to where? |
| 22:11 |
sfan5 |
well i have a script that automatically uploads it to my vps |
| 22:11 |
xunto |
Civ 5 uses python for modding api... |
| 22:11 |
sfan5 |
so i can update the page of my minetest daily builds |
| 22:11 |
kruug |
sfan5: ah, nice |
| 22:11 |
kruug |
link? |
| 22:11 |
sfan5 |
first lemme move it |
| 22:12 |
sfan5 |
kruug: https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/minetest-0.4.14-noluajit-win64.7z |
| 22:12 |
Calinou |
xunto: we're not a huge game engine |
| 22:12 |
sfan5 |
it also includes two subgames |
| 22:13 |
Calinou |
Minetest tries to follow the KISS principle |
| 22:13 |
sfan5 |
because i forgot to disable that too |
| 22:13 |
kruug |
sweet. |
| 22:13 |
kruug |
and I should just be able to copy my world and mods over no problem? |
| 22:13 |
kaeza |
o/ |
| 22:14 |
TC01 |
kruug: Civ 4 used Python; Civ 5 actually uses Lua too. |
| 22:15 |
sfan5 |
kruug: yup |
| 22:16 |
kruug |
sfan5: gracias! Have a good weekend! |
| 22:16 |
sfan5 |
you too |
| 22:16 |
sfan5 |
:) |
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Jordach |
ayyyyyyyyy lmao |
| 22:29 |
sfan5 |
aye lemao |
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kaeza |
oi, limão |
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garywhite |
Would 1GB RAM be enough to run Minetest (just a vanilla singleplayer world) |
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shadow |
is there an oldest continuously running minetest world? |
| 22:46 |
sfan5 |
garywhite: yes |
| 22:47 |
garywhite |
ok, cause I'm building an OpenSUSE OS with some simple applications and I put MT on it. Only thing is, it took 20 mins to compile and then I realize I only set the RAM in a VM to 512MB |
| 22:49 |
shadow |
garywhite: 1-2GB minimum RAM for compiling C++ code, suggest at least 4GB |
| 22:49 |
shadow |
no harm in making do with less |
| 22:49 |
shadow |
just slowwwww |
| 22:50 |
garywhite |
I'm going back, adjusting the RAM for VMWare/VirtualBox machines to 1GB or maybe 1.5GB and then recompiling...Here goes another 30 minutes |
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garywhite |
If anyone wants the link, I can post it when I'm done |
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red-001 |
whats the longest a minetest server can run without restart? |
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Out`Of`Control |
red-001: my record 2 months |
| 23:12 |
shadow |
only 2 mos huh |
| 23:12 |
shadow |
: |
| 23:17 |
red-001 |
I once joined a server that used an exponent for showing uptime |
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kruug |
huh...non-LuaJIT runes a bit slower... |
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| 23:38 |
kruug |
sfan5: I issued /emergeblocks but I'm not getting a progress counter. Thoughts? |
| 23:41 |
kruug |
Oh, but it is taking ~7 GB of RAM. Guessing it's working! |
| 23:42 |
kruug |
and I may have set it to emerge the same set of blocks twice... |
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paramat |
how big a volume did you emerge? |
