Time Nick Message 00:10 whitephoenix airsword best mod 2016 01:16 MinetestBot 02[git] 04tenplus1 -> 03minetest/minetest: Builtin/../falling.lua: Code optimisation 13a468acc https://git.io/vPrRo (152016-10-14T02:12:32+01:00) 02:26 whitephoenix back to looking at this and I still don't see the problem with my deserialize setup, any ideas? http://pastebin.com/kFU4RfDx 03:08 kaeza whitephoenix, https://www.lua.org/pil/21.html 03:09 kaeza start fomr there ;) 03:09 whitephoenix alright 03:10 whitephoenix wait a second does "w" not allow reading? 03:10 kaeza uh no? 03:10 whitephoenix its weird that I'm having trouble with this, file io is pretty similar to python which I've used a bunch 03:16 kaeza I advise you read the full chapter 03:17 whitephoenix alright 03:46 whitephoenix free software at its finest http://i.imgur.com/F92RsNM.png 08:33 LittleRoaryTiger Lukc: ? 08:34 Megaf are you the same Lukc I think you are? 08:39 Lukc Megaf, I am. :o 08:40 Megaf Lukc: cool, Still playing Minetest? 08:41 Lukc Not really~. 08:41 Megaf I have to join my Yahoo/AIM/XMPP acctounts again... 08:41 Megaf Lukc: oh man 08:41 Megaf Lukc: you should xP 08:41 Megaf I'm building something weird on Nether 08:42 Megaf geometric stuff 08:42 Megaf Lukc: if you wish, we have now #MegafServer and the server itself is connected there, so people on the server can now exchange messages with people on IRC 08:55 Megaf meh, Emphaty on GNOME is super slow 09:15 Megaf This, I like this https://www.phacility.com/phabricator/ 09:15 Megaf !title 09:15 MinetestBot Megaf: Phacility - Phabricator 09:15 Megaf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phabricator 09:15 Megaf !title 09:15 MinetestBot Megaf: Phabricator - Wikipedia 09:29 JamesTait Good morning all! Happy Friday, and happy World Egg Day! 😃 🐣 09:33 Axord Time to cook some eggs. 10:01 Krock but who was first? the egg or the chicken? 11:41 Logo4poop On the mac version it's in a other language is that normal? 11:41 Krock mac is strange anyway 11:42 Krock what language do you get? what's expected? 11:42 Krock maybe you've modified the language setting in Minetest 15:05 whitephoenix there sure are a lot of mod release forum posts with broken image urls 15:05 garywhite whitephoenix: yes there 15:05 garywhite are* 15:53 keyboard4238 what is an oerkki 15:54 nm0i mob 15:54 keyboard4238 is it a product of imagination or is it based on something 15:54 keyboard4238 lol 15:58 Gamer Hi 16:04 keyboard4238 ok, i looked through the IRC logs and it appears to be a generic monster based on the Finnish word örkki, meaning orc 16:07 Krock keyboard4238, see also: http://wiki.minetest.net/Oerkki 16:09 keyboard4238 ty :) 16:09 Krock !next 16:09 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 16:45 keyboard4238 may i have a wiki account? 16:48 Krock keyboard4238, PM Calinou with your email and desired acc name 16:49 garywhite wb Don 16:52 garywhite Hey guys any idea what would be causing this? nomohakon says he can't type the 4 key in the MT client, but every other key works fine in MT 16:56 Krock another irrlicht issue? 16:57 Krock garywhite, maybe this issue? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/302 16:57 Krock the one about specifically number 4 was closed 17:00 whitephoenix I read through the lua file i/o stuff and still don't see the problem with my mod, I tried doing some of this in a lua interpreter and it worked fine, I don't know why its not getting deserialized correctly 17:01 garywhite idk if that was the issue cause he won't say anything now, so I'll call that solved 17:01 garywhite !next 17:01 MinetestBot Another satisfied customer. Next! 17:04 sfan5 garywhite: which minetest version? 17:04 sfan5 and os? 17:06 whitephoenix this is probably getting annoying but I still don't see whats wrong with this: http://pastebin.com/59dbkHFm, deserialize is apparently returning nil and I have no idea why, io.read("*all") returns a string 17:07 sfan5 you should be loading it when the mod starts 17:07 sfan5 not with minetest.after 17:07 sfan5 >io.input(spark_file) 17:07 sfan5 >io.output(spark_file) 17:07 sfan5 don't do that 17:08 sfan5 it will break if other mods do the same 17:08 Krock whitephoenix, it MUST return a string, that's wanted 17:08 Krock but most likely it's formatted wrongly 17:09 sfan5 also i found your error 17:10 sfan5 you are opening the file for writing 17:10 sfan5 you can't read from it 17:10 whitephoenix ...wow 17:10 sfan5 now sorry for being direct: your code is shit 17:11 sfan5 whitephoenix: http://sprunge.us/DZgS?lua 17:11 garywhite idk 17:12 sfan5 oh that's missing a load_sparks() at the end 17:12 whitephoenix Awesome thanks, some lua stuff is kind of hard to wrap my head around 17:12 whitephoenix been using python and nothing else for too long 17:12 sfan5 don't worry, you'll learn it as you use lua more 17:15 whitephoenix works flawlessly, thank you so much 17:20 garywhite ok on the keyboard issue (nomohakon is having the problem, not me) 17:20 garywhite It is Xubuntu 16.04 and MT 0.4.14 17:49 swift110 hey garywhite 17:49 garywhite Hello swift110 17:49 swift110 how are you garywhite 17:49 garywhite Good 17:50 Krock hey swift110, how are you? 17:50 agaran Hello 17:50 Krock hi agaran 17:54 swift110 hey Krock I am great 17:55 swift110 good to hear garywhite 17:55 Krock good :) 18:12 garywhite I'm gonna write an article on the forums about MC vs. MT. Since I've used the MC demo before, I think MT will win 18:14 whitephoenix FOSS > proprietary software, end of story for me 18:16 garywhite Um how old is Minetest 0.4.10? 18:18 sfan5 old 18:18 agaran i would say more like ancient? 18:19 sfan5 7th july 2014 18:19 agaran two years can be lot of changes thats what I mean 18:19 garywhite Heh, I just found a server with nobody on it that runs 0.4.10 18:20 whitephoenix inb4 debian 18:20 whitephoenix linuxmasterrace server runs on debian and had 0.4.10, I compiled a new one which solved a lot of mod errors 18:21 sfan5 small tip: don't run on any version that isn't the latest one 18:34 Krock whitephoenix, old image: http://i.imgur.com/VszPcHQ.png 18:35 whitephoenix "Bump version to 0.4.9 kwolekr committed on Jan 1, 2014" 18:38 sfan5 gameboom still existed in 2014? wow 18:38 whitephoenix alright I think I need to stop and focus on learning lua for a while before I do anything even more stupid 18:38 Krock I've checked an old server list back then and found these interesting servers. Too bad we haven't had the local saving to that time 18:39 sfan5 whitephoenix: the best way to learn lua is to write code 18:40 sfan5 if you already know the basics that it 18:40 Krock \o/ libreplanet is still online 18:42 red-001 whats the linuxmasterreace server called? 18:42 whitephoenix its not public but I can pm you the address 18:44 sfan5 that explains why i didn't find a post about it in /r/linuxmasterrace 18:46 Krock hello Tmanyo 18:47 Tmanyo hello 18:47 whitephoenix yeah its more on the irc 18:48 sfan5 how many people are playing on it rn? 18:49 whitephoenix 4, I don't advertise it but people can join, I just want to keep it relaxed enough to not require a ton of rules and grief protection stuff 18:49 Krock nice idea 18:49 Krock until the word spreads and kids will come too 18:50 whitephoenix yeah I mean if someone griefs stuff I have backups and whatnot but I'd prefer to not have to do that at all 18:59 kruug Is there a way to offline edit a map? 19:00 kruug I stuck a torch below a stone node with a stack of sand on top. Broke the stone, and now I can't load my world. 19:00 sfan5 you're in for a ride 19:00 sfan5 what happens when you try to load it? 19:01 kruug Lua: Runtime error 19:01 sfan5 great 19:01 sfan5 anything more? 19:02 kruug https://i.imgur.com/HKnuM85.png 19:02 kruug yeah, sorry. Had to take a screenshot as there isn't a way to copy/paste out of the error box 19:02 sofar_ disable the mine_it_all module 19:02 sofar_ then try to load it again 19:03 kruug HAHAHA 19:03 kruug I think it was trying to mine ALL THE STONE! 19:03 kruug thanks sofar 19:08 swift110 hmm 19:09 kruug So, turning on debug info shows what I'm pointing_at...can that be accessed via the API? 19:10 Krock whitephoenix, is there an IRC channel for the server? 19:10 whitephoenix The irc channel is for the linuxmasterrace group, it's #linuxmasterrace @ snoonet 19:10 Krock nuh. not a new irc network again :< 19:10 whitephoenix I just have snoonet and freenode 19:11 Krock I have Inchra, Rizona and Freenode 19:11 Krock *Rizon 19:12 garywhite I have Inchra and Freenode 21:11 Leoneof why i'm here? 21:25 kruug How does one pre-generate a map? 21:25 kruug I'm sick of getting thrown out of my world because of technic, but I don't want to lose the mod... 21:26 sfan5 /emergeblocks 21:26 kruug hmmm....now to figure out which directions x, y, and z are... 21:27 sfan5 y is up-down 21:27 sfan5 just press f5 21:29 kruug woo! 21:29 kruug crashed! 21:29 kruug not enough memory... 21:29 kruug thanks technic 21:33 kruug and that's the thing...it's not even using 40MB of memory...I'd like to dedicate 2GB of RAM to it, please :) 21:39 Krock maybe it's used by other applications? 21:41 kruug Without Minetest running, I'm using 7GB of 16GB RAM 21:41 kruug I think I can spare 2GB :) 21:44 garywhite Dude, what are you running that you're using 7GB? 21:44 kruug Might be the 15 tabs in Firefox 21:44 kruug yeah, Firefox is just over 1GB 21:45 kruug Edge is just over 1GB as well 21:50 sfan5 you're probably using a minetest with luaji 21:50 sfan5 luajit has a hard limit of 2gb 21:51 kruug Is there one without the LuaJIT? 21:52 sfan5 for windows, probably not 21:52 kruug I'm using the `Minetest 0.4.14 (Portable, 64-bit)` 21:52 sfan5 but generally, /emergeblocks shouldn't be crashing due to out-of-memory 21:53 sfan5 or did that error happen due to technic? 21:53 kruug It's the technic worldgen 21:53 paramat why Leoneof's back? 21:53 kruug "Lua: OOM error from mod 'technic_worldgen' in callback environment_OnGenerated(): not enough memory" 21:54 paramat emergeblocks will trigger lua mapgen 21:54 sfan5 ah 21:54 sfan5 what does technic do that it needs a custom worldgen? 21:54 sfan5 kruug: do you want a build without luajit real quick? 21:54 sfan5 i can make you one 21:54 kruug Hmmm. I wonder if I download a non LuaJIT Linux version, emerge the map, and then move back to Windows... 21:54 sfan5 nah 21:55 sfan5 that's too complicated 21:55 kruug Challenge Accepted! 21:55 kruug 0.2% emerged! 21:55 sfan5 how did you move to linux that fast o.O 21:56 kruug no, that's using Windows 21:56 kruug though I could fire up my Linux laptop in about 30 seconds...but I have 4 minutes until I have to drive 21:57 kruug Is there a Linux build without LuaJIT worldgen? I could load it up and just let it run all weekend 21:58 sfan5 some distros build without luajit 21:58 sfan5 but it's easy to just compile from source 22:05 kruug sfan5: if you have a non-LuaJIT for Windows, just so I can emerge 412776 blocks (chunks?) and then play with LuaJIT, that would be great 22:06 sfan5 ready in a few mins 22:08 kruug who decided that Lua was a good language? 22:09 Calinou kruug: no real alternatives were present back in November 2011 22:09 Calinou (and I don't think there's any now) 22:09 kruug No? 22:10 xunto Calinou: python? 22:10 kruug wouldn't python be an alternative? 22:10 xunto lol 22:10 sfan5 oh fuck i accidentally uploaded it 22:10 kruug jinx! 22:10 Calinou too large to be embedded 22:11 kruug sfan5: O.O 22:11 kruug uploaded...to where? 22:11 sfan5 well i have a script that automatically uploads it to my vps 22:11 xunto Civ 5 uses python for modding api... 22:11 sfan5 so i can update the page of my minetest daily builds 22:11 kruug sfan5: ah, nice 22:11 kruug link? 22:11 sfan5 first lemme move it 22:12 sfan5 kruug: https://kitsunemimi.pw/tmp/minetest-0.4.14-noluajit-win64.7z 22:12 Calinou xunto: we're not a huge game engine 22:12 sfan5 it also includes two subgames 22:13 Calinou Minetest tries to follow the KISS principle 22:13 sfan5 because i forgot to disable that too 22:13 kruug sweet. 22:13 kruug and I should just be able to copy my world and mods over no problem? 22:13 kaeza o/ 22:14 TC01 kruug: Civ 4 used Python; Civ 5 actually uses Lua too. 22:15 sfan5 kruug: yup 22:16 kruug sfan5: gracias! Have a good weekend! 22:16 sfan5 you too 22:16 sfan5 :) 22:27 Jordach ayyyyyyyyy lmao 22:29 sfan5 aye lemao 22:35 kaeza oi, limão 22:45 garywhite Would 1GB RAM be enough to run Minetest (just a vanilla singleplayer world) 22:46 shadow is there an oldest continuously running minetest world? 22:46 sfan5 garywhite: yes 22:47 garywhite ok, cause I'm building an OpenSUSE OS with some simple applications and I put MT on it. Only thing is, it took 20 mins to compile and then I realize I only set the RAM in a VM to 512MB 22:49 shadow garywhite: 1-2GB minimum RAM for compiling C++ code, suggest at least 4GB 22:49 shadow no harm in making do with less 22:49 shadow just slowwwww 22:50 garywhite I'm going back, adjusting the RAM for VMWare/VirtualBox machines to 1GB or maybe 1.5GB and then recompiling...Here goes another 30 minutes 22:54 garywhite If anyone wants the link, I can post it when I'm done 23:06 red-001 whats the longest a minetest server can run without restart? 23:10 Out`Of`Control red-001: my record 2 months 23:12 shadow only 2 mos huh 23:12 shadow : 23:17 red-001 I once joined a server that used an exponent for showing uptime 23:29 kruug huh...non-LuaJIT runes a bit slower... 23:38 kruug sfan5: I issued /emergeblocks but I'm not getting a progress counter. Thoughts? 23:41 kruug Oh, but it is taking ~7 GB of RAM. Guessing it's working! 23:42 kruug and I may have set it to emerge the same set of blocks twice... 23:55 paramat how big a volume did you emerge?