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greeter |
hmm, the game isn't in creative mode yet it still just gives me the items, not too survival like lol |
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whitephoenix |
So whats a good place to learn lua better? I made some cool mods but I probably made some mistakes with scope and stuff |
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whitephoenix |
So are chat colors a thing? |
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sfan5 |
ye |
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sfan5 |
in the dev release |
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sfan5 |
oh wait you know that already |
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whitephoenix |
so no documentation yet? |
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sfan5 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1788 |
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whitephoenix |
somehow I missed that, thanks |
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strayko |
Hi, someone knows how to fix this problem http://prntscr.com/ct5osh ? |
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sfan5 |
the android is probably not updated yet |
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sfan5 |
try building 0.4.14 instead of latest |
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strayko |
took a 0.4.14 make stopped at this http://prntscr.com/ct60ty |
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whitephoenix |
Can I change a nodebox's texture on right click somehow? |
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agaran |
you can make nodebox swap for other one on right click, that has same properties but different texture |
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blerttt |
i see corals have been added to the minetest game https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game/commit/3d26b33e5bad60ebb4fe459e011abefe130dbc3b where can i find them? |
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FreeFull |
blerttt: I'd be looking somewhere in deep water, assuming they are actually being generated |
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FreeFull |
Looking at that commit, it doesn't seem to make them generate |
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FreeFull |
blerttt: For now you'll probably just have to give yourself some |
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blerttt |
they will probably make them generate later |
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Yeah, probably |
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Krock |
hi swift110 |
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swift110 |
hey Krock |
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Krock |
how are you, swift110 ? |
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swift110 |
anyone on telegram? |
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swift110 |
good |
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Krock |
I don't have telegram |
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Krock |
Tox for the win |
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swift110 |
o |
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twoelk |
mh, we have Tux and Tox and Tax and even Tex means something - but has Tix a meaning? |
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swift110 |
ok |
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nm0i |
dev-tcltk/tix |
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nm0i |
A widget library for Tcl/Tk |
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MinetestBot |
[git] raymoo -> minetest/minetest: Attached particle spawners c9e7a27 https://git.io/vPVhp (2016-10-13T17:33:16+02:00) |
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whitephoenix |
probably a noob question but how can I store a variable on a per-player basis? |
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T4im |
save it in a table with the player name as key |
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T4im |
something like local favorite_building_materials = {} with favorite_building_materials["whitephonix"] = "cobble" |
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T4im |
:) |
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whitephoenix |
T4im, but wouldn't that get deleted on reboot? |
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whitephoenix |
on server restart I should say |
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T4im |
yes; if you need it restored, you can serialize/deserialize the table |
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T4im |
minetest.serialize() or something like that |
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T4im |
depending on the variable, the place to do that, might vary |
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T4im |
player join/leave, actual actual like building a node, or server init/shutdown etc. etc. |
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T4im |
that was way too actual |
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whitephoenix |
I'm not sure I understand, serialize stores a table in a string, and deserialize loads it, so I'd have to make a text file that deserializes the players thing when they join right? |
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red-001 |
if it's something thats updated a lot you might want to only save it every 5 minutes and a shutdown |
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red-001 |
at* |
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T4im |
yes that string can then be written or read later from a file |
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T4im |
via common io |
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whitephoenix |
alright thanks |
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whitephoenix |
its for a 'mana' type system |
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red-001 |
would that get updated a lot? |
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MinetestBot |
[git] sfan5 -> Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit: Merge remote-tracking branch 'tmp/hollowpyramid' 6e2e238 https://git.io/vPwfc (2016-10-13T17:51:01+02:00) |
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whitephoenix |
red-001, I'm thinking just when they use an item/node to gain mana or use it |
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red-001 |
you might want to use something like minetest.after() to only save it once a minute or something like that |
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T4im |
loosing mana due to a power failure, doesn't seem too big of an issue, is it? |
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red-001 |
well server failures can be caused bu other things |
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whitephoenix |
not really |
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whitephoenix |
I should also proabably save it on shutdown |
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red-001 |
segfaults, lua errors, etc |
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T4im |
player leave/join perhaps |
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T4im |
red-001: yes, but the problem caused by it seems recoverable |
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T4im |
it's not like its item loss or world corruption |
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red-001 |
? |
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red-001 |
how is it diffrent from item lose? |
| 15:59 |
red-001 |
the player still loses something that took time to gain |
| 15:59 |
T4im |
never played one of those magic mods; just assumed it's about as rare to come by like stamina |
| 15:59 |
red-001 |
<whitephoenix> red-001, I'm thinking just when they use an item/node to gain mana |
| 15:59 |
whitephoenix |
yeah its not gonna regenerate automatically like some mana in games |
| 15:59 |
T4im |
ah, ok |
| 16:00 |
red-001 |
then you should save it automactly |
| 16:00 |
* red-001 |
thinks that someone should just merge the player atributes PR |
| 16:05 |
whitephoenix |
some syntax highlighting on the PIL would go a long way |
| 16:10 |
sfan5 |
hm |
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sfan5 |
why can't you attach metadata to players yet? |
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Krock |
detached inventories are a kind of metadata IIRC |
| 16:25 |
Krock |
err.. they're not attached to players |
| 16:25 |
red-001 |
see https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/4155 |
| 16:27 |
whitephoenix |
seems like 20% of my time spent modding is search then noticing that there is an open PR for a feature I want |
| 16:29 |
Krock |
spent a bit more than a hour to rework this awful styled mod: https://github.com/Tmanyo/server_helper/blob/master/init.lua |
| 16:30 |
red-001 |
whitephoenix well minetest is understaffed |
| 16:30 |
whitephoenix |
I know, I understand |
| 16:31 |
whitephoenix |
I want to start contributing soon |
| 16:31 |
whitephoenix |
just most of the stuff I see going on is above my head |
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garywhite |
Hi |
| 16:47 |
Krock |
meow, Mewgaf |
| 16:48 |
Mewgaf |
Mew because meow is too mainstream |
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whitephoenix |
I keep crashing the game |
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swift110 |
hey |
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whitephoenix |
I'm so confused right now, are minetest mods not allowed to create files? |
| 17:42 |
T4im |
with security enabled they are limited to where |
| 17:42 |
T4im |
world and mod directory only |
| 17:42 |
T4im |
i think |
| 17:43 |
whitephoenix |
this should be putting it in my mod folder |
| 17:43 |
whitephoenix |
I must just have a problem with my lua that I can't see |
| 17:43 |
T4im |
not entirely sure about mod directory actually |
| 17:43 |
T4im |
but that file belongs to the world path anyway |
| 17:43 |
T4im |
it's world specific, isn't it? |
| 17:43 |
whitephoenix |
yeah it should be, I've just been trying to test in the mods dir though |
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whitephoenix |
wow yep |
| 17:45 |
whitephoenix |
worlds folder only |
| 17:45 |
whitephoenix |
that was driving me insane, seems like there should be an error saying it tried to write to somewhere it can't |
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* T4im |
nods |
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garywhite |
How do I get the latest build from GitHub? |
| 17:50 |
whitephoenix |
compile it or download releases from https://github.com/minetest/minetest/releases |
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garywhite |
I want to download the nightly build, that link is the official 4.14 |
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twoelk |
if you are on linux you could use Calinoue's one line command |
| 17:52 |
garywhite |
No, Windows 7 |
| 17:53 |
twoelk |
then you are out of luck |
| 17:54 |
twoelk |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=6745&p=235897#p235897 <- the latest build for windows |
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whitephoenix |
oh come on |
| 17:55 |
Krock |
I could make you a nightly one if you find a 2nd person who wants it |
| 17:55 |
whitephoenix |
now I keep seeing my file popup in the world dir then get deleted immediately |
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garywhite |
This is fine, thanks |
| 17:57 |
red-001 |
krock do you know how to build an x64 version of minetest in msvc15? |
| 17:57 |
red-001 |
I only got 32-bit version working |
| 17:57 |
T4im |
great, now you shooshed away the linux4Ever guy with all that msvc talk :o |
| 17:57 |
Krock |
red-001, 1.5 times "no". I don't know how to x64 but MSVC works the same way on all versions |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
T4im, hehe |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
You'll need to get the x64 libraries and then let MSVC15 compile it with the target x64 |
| 17:59 |
Krock |
well, you'd need two cmake build dirs. Once for x86, and the 2nd for x64 |
| 18:00 |
twoelk |
how long does compiling take on your current setup Krock? |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
twoelk, 3 mins for incremental, otherwise up to 6 mins |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
with my old setup I would have 6 mins and 15 mins |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
:3 |
| 18:00 |
twoelk |
hehe and when you started? |
| 18:01 |
twoelk |
ninja'd |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
huh? |
| 18:01 |
twoelk |
I thought it took longer though |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
no, when I started it was ~10 mins and 20 mins |
| 18:01 |
Krock |
then I had a mainboard switch, and now again |
| 18:02 |
Krock |
well, now it's a different HDD but with the same files (mirror) |
| 18:03 |
twoelk |
I gave up on trying to make a portable setup for compiling Minetest |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
stupid mainboard does not have IDE connectors anymore |
| 18:03 |
whitephoenix |
msvc must be way slower than gcc |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, depends on CPU |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
and optimizations |
| 18:03 |
whitephoenix |
FX 6300 I compiled minetest in about 40 seconds |
| 18:03 |
Krock |
twoelk, portable and setup are the opposites IMO |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, that's a newer CPU than mine |
| 18:04 |
twoelk |
not really |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
and mingw/gcc also does incremental linking which speeds it up a lot |
| 18:04 |
TheMeowingTiger |
[19:03:56] <whitephoenix> FX 6300 I compiled minetest in about 40 seconds |
| 18:04 |
Krock |
for some reasons it's disabled for MSVC |
| 18:04 |
twoelk |
on a portable setup you have to tweak the toolchain to work together even more |
| 18:04 |
* MSVC |
has a pentuim d |
| 18:04 |
TheMeowingTiger |
I think my Phenom II x4 955 BE beats that |
| 18:05 |
TheMeowingTiger |
at 3,2 GHz |
| 18:05 |
Krock |
MSVC, better as if you had a celeron D |
| 18:05 |
whitephoenix |
maybe |
| 18:05 |
* garywhite |
has an i5 vPro |
| 18:05 |
whitephoenix |
I don't think I was using -j5 or whatever though |
| 18:05 |
* Krock |
has Core 2 Quad |
| 18:05 |
TheMeowingTiger |
but I don't have access to my Phenom anymore |
| 18:05 |
whitephoenix |
I should try it on my i7 laptop to test it |
| 18:05 |
MSVC |
krock do you run generate version? |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, better don't https://xkcd.com/303/ |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
MSVC, err what? |
| 18:06 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, get a coffee while it's compiling. that's much better |
| 18:06 |
whitephoenix |
yeah I suppose so |
| 18:07 |
MSVC |
do you do Built all when doing a incremental build or do you just build minetest? |
| 18:07 |
whitephoenix |
lua seems kinda hard to me, I'm too used to python |
| 18:08 |
Krock |
I build it with the defaults. Incremental - everything but the linker is incremental |
| 18:09 |
MSVC |
It can be a lot faster to build without generate version when you are doing an incremental build |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
I only run CMake when I update a library path. When the Cmakelists.txt file updated, it runs automatically anyway |
| 18:09 |
Krock |
*file got updated |
| 18:10 |
MSVC |
It has to recomplie more files if the generat version project is run |
| 18:10 |
Krock |
yes, because it empties the progress of the incremental build and starts from scratch |
| 18:10 |
whitephoenix |
http://i.imgur.com/LBZprao.png anyone see what I'm doing wrong? this has been bugging me |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, minetest.deserialize obviously failed |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
lol |
| 18:11 |
Krock |
interesting code btw |
| 18:12 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, add print(dump(spark_count)) at line 8 |
| 18:13 |
Krock |
ping, whitephoenix |
| 18:13 |
whitephoenix |
alright just a sec |
| 18:13 |
T4im |
and localize your globals |
| 18:13 |
whitephoenix |
alright |
| 18:14 |
whitephoenix |
I'm sure theres lots of problems, I've used nothing but python for a long time |
| 18:14 |
Krock |
it would be nice if we could compress the output of minetest.serialize |
| 18:14 |
Krock |
data files would get a lot smaller |
| 18:15 |
Krock |
*there are lots |
| 18:15 |
T4im |
well; avoid globals when possible; they are shared among mods and can create bugs, like the technic drill and the replacer won't work if a mod is loaded which assigns above globally for some reason |
| 18:15 |
T4im |
"above" |
| 18:16 |
Krock |
what a luck that locals have priority over globals |
| 18:16 |
T4im |
also lua is quite slow with globals; while local variables are limite to the stack and won't ever be a performance problem |
| 18:16 |
T4im |
Krock: yea :D |
| 18:16 |
T4im |
that would mess up even more |
| 18:17 |
T4im |
the performance thing is usually not a problem; but best practices can save you from accidentally creating one |
| 18:17 |
Krock |
nice window style. I wonder if it's avalable for Raspian too |
| 18:18 |
T4im |
Krock: install linux; it has lots of nice styles like that |
| 18:19 |
T4im |
whitephoenix: good you read the while in-total though |
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T4im |
but, doesn't io.read need the file handle too? |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
oh right, yes |
| 18:20 |
kaeza |
Greetings. |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
o/ kaeza |
| 18:20 |
whitephoenix |
T4im, I think using : passes self |
| 18:21 |
T4im |
yes |
| 18:21 |
whitephoenix |
oh wait nevermind idk |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
either io.read(fs, "*all") or fs:read("*all") |
| 18:21 |
T4im |
^^ |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
T4im, Raspian is Linux |
| 18:21 |
Krock |
just a very crappy distribution |
| 18:22 |
T4im |
"io.read" without file descriptor should read from STDIn |
| 18:22 |
T4im |
stdin* |
| 18:23 |
kaeza |
<Krock> it would be nice if we could compress the output of minetest.serialize |
| 18:23 |
kaeza |
https://gist.github.com/kaeza/611b22c81835894887643c06684e2cac |
| 18:23 |
Krock |
you're doing something that I never do. Reading the logs |
| 18:23 |
kaeza |
:D |
| 18:24 |
kaeza |
but you said that like 5 minutes ago |
| 18:24 |
kaeza |
Krock, oh, and just for fun: https://github.com/mathiasbynens/luamin |
| 18:25 |
Krock |
I thought more about a C++ zlib implementation |
| 18:25 |
T4im |
lol |
| 18:25 |
T4im |
written in javascript |
| 18:25 |
kaeza |
^ :( sadly |
| 18:25 |
whitephoenix |
Krock, window style is flatabulous_arc |
| 18:26 |
whitephoenix |
I'd imagine it works on lxde |
| 18:26 |
Krock |
thanks :D |
| 18:26 |
whitephoenix |
though you might have to build it |
| 18:32 |
garywhite |
to run a minetest server, do I use a VPN or a VPS? |
| 18:32 |
TheMeowingTiger |
eh |
| 18:32 |
TheMeowingTiger |
VPN = Virtual Private Network |
| 18:32 |
TheMeowingTiger |
you connect several computers in a closed network over the internet |
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TheMeowingTiger |
VPS = Virtual Private Server |
| 18:33 |
TheMeowingTiger |
it's a "partition" of a real server |
| 18:34 |
garywhite |
So do I use VPN or VPS to run a MT server? |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
subserver |
| 18:34 |
whitephoenix |
I really need to read up on lua, I still have almost no idea how to fix this |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
garywhite, VPN if you plan to infect other computers with the Minetest server virus |
| 18:34 |
T4im |
you're already on a good way whitephoenix, don't give up |
| 18:34 |
Krock |
garywhite, VPS if you want to host it legally |
| 18:35 |
garywhite |
ok |
| 18:35 |
T4im |
there is worse working code around, than that |
| 18:35 |
* garywhite |
looks up some simple VPS services that offer a basic system for free |
| 18:35 |
T4im |
the free VPS's are all already used to mine bitcoin |
| 18:35 |
Krock |
just get your own RPI and host the stuff self (TM) |
| 18:36 |
garywhite |
What's an RPI? |
| 18:36 |
Krock |
Raspberry PI |
| 18:36 |
T4im |
it's also a TLA |
| 18:36 |
sfan5 |
*sigh* |
| 18:36 |
T4im |
a three letter acronym |
| 18:36 |
Krock |
lol |
| 18:36 |
Krock |
like SAM |
| 18:36 |
garywhite |
Oh |
| 18:36 |
sfan5 |
garywhite: don't use free vps services, it's hard to find anything good for < 5 $ / month |
| 18:37 |
sfan5 |
even if you do find a free vps service, they will be bad i guarantee you |
| 18:37 |
T4im |
due to being used to mine bitcoin x) |
| 18:37 |
T4im |
among other things |
| 18:37 |
garywhite |
Well, It's not intended to be a major server, just one that I can run a few mods on and see how they'll work under a little stress |
| 18:37 |
T4im |
not sure there are still free vps |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
sure there are free ones but they're all buys with mining bitcoins |
| 18:38 |
T4im |
probably only very limited on a limited trial basis |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
*busy |
| 18:38 |
BrandonReese |
buyvm.net cheap VPS allows game servers, good uptime. meh performance but if it's a small server you should be ok |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
no you didn't understand |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
DO NOT use free vps services |
| 18:38 |
Krock |
! |
| 18:38 |
T4im |
^^ |
| 18:38 |
whitephoenix |
or vpn services |
| 18:38 |
whitephoenix |
especailly vpn services |
| 18:38 |
sfan5 |
there aren't any good ones because it's obviously a business of loss |
| 18:39 |
Krock |
Host yourself (TM) if you want quality (TM) |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
unless your upstream speed isn't fast enough |
| 18:40 |
T4im |
whitephoenix: ah you mean like that hola botnet? yea |
| 18:40 |
Krock |
a spanish botnet? |
| 18:41 |
T4im |
"become part of our botneaaa.... eh i mean our free P2P VPN" |
| 18:41 |
garywhite |
I kinda have to use a VPS cause my Xfinity internet put me on a cap, and running a server from my home would probably eat it up pretty quick |
| 18:42 |
Krock |
or another minetest server hoster would be so kind and host one for you but that's most likely not free too |
| 18:42 |
T4im |
Krock: nah, some "service" offering free p2p vpn by having their users install a browser plugin or something like that; some sorts of botnetclient anyway |
| 18:43 |
T4im |
they then sell their users computer for things like cheap crawling of websites to paying customers |
| 18:43 |
T4im |
just another "if something is free, you're the product" |
| 18:43 |
Krock |
T4im, sound awful. But I bet the official Chrome/FF plugin pages already sorted a few of them out |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
or even - most |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
Minetest steals my HP! |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
and kittens |
| 18:44 |
Krock |
(for some reason) |
| 18:44 |
T4im |
it's still available for all of those |
| 18:44 |
T4im |
afaik |
| 18:45 |
T4im |
they don't abuse it for illegal means, they just abuse it for legal ones |
| 18:45 |
T4im |
allegedly |
| 18:45 |
T4im |
the problem is, that users don't know about being abused like that |
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T4im |
it's like if you'd use facebook/google without knowing that your surf behavior is analyzed across all websites; or would use windows 10 without knowing that they reserve the right to look through all your files |
| 18:47 |
T4im |
but of course at least there people know about that :) |
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TheMeowingTiger |
why everybody wants to host a freaking mt server? |
| 18:48 |
* Krock |
quickly removes the free proxy client from his plugins |
| 18:48 |
TheMeowingTiger |
people have to learn that hosting a server is not fun, it's just pain |
| 18:48 |
TheMeowingTiger |
and responsability |
| 18:48 |
Krock |
it's fun once it works |
| 18:49 |
TheMeowingTiger |
and then you have to recruit staff |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
except you make a chaos server |
| 18:49 |
Krock |
an anarchy one |
| 18:50 |
TheMeowingTiger |
garywhite: just find a server you like and play there |
| 18:50 |
TheMeowingTiger |
if there's something you want to be different, just suggest it to the server owner |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
"but.. but.. there's no nice server" |
| 18:50 |
agaran |
hello |
| 18:50 |
Krock |
hi agaran |
| 18:50 |
T4im |
hello |
| 18:50 |
garywhite |
Yeah, sfan5 is right |
| 18:50 |
TheMeowingTiger |
Buttatoes is an amazing example of player. He found a lot of things on Megaf Server that needed fixing |
| 18:51 |
TheMeowingTiger |
and we fixed almost all upstream, on minetest and minetest_game |
| 18:51 |
TheMeowingTiger |
not to mention mod bugs |
| 18:51 |
TheMeowingTiger |
agaran helped a lot too with suggestions |
| 18:51 |
T4im |
if you want to find mod bugs, why not just run shakedown over all of them? |
| 18:51 |
agaran |
did I? |
| 18:51 |
TheMeowingTiger |
so garywhite, find a server you like an suggest changes |
| 18:51 |
TheMeowingTiger |
agaran: you did :) |
| 18:52 |
TheMeowingTiger |
your latest contribution is the deck mod |
| 18:52 |
Krock |
TheMeowingTiger, please add technic |
| 18:52 |
T4im |
:D |
| 18:52 |
T4im |
+1 |
| 18:53 |
* Krock |
does not know which server is meant but knows that it needs more technic |
| 18:53 |
T4im |
that's likely a good guess, yes |
| 18:53 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 18:54 |
agaran |
lol |
| 18:56 |
TheMeowingTiger |
lol |
| 18:56 |
* TheMeowingTiger |
thinks people dont know who he is. |
| 18:57 |
* Krock |
tells the tiger to do /nick _Megaf |
| 18:57 |
agaran |
some do know |
| 18:57 |
T4im |
ah right, megaf not here, let's talk about him! |
| 18:57 |
T4im |
oh |
| 18:57 |
T4im |
snap |
| 18:57 |
Krock |
I don't know who you are but I know that you're in Dublin |
| 18:57 |
T4im |
let's not do it now |
| 18:57 |
_Megaf |
xP |
| 18:57 |
T4im |
lets wait |
| 18:58 |
_Megaf |
oh |
| 18:58 |
* T4im |
laughs |
| 18:58 |
* _Megaf |
runs away and hides |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
LittleCuteKitten |
| 18:58 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
nah, I'm a tiger, my ex said so |
| 18:58 |
* LittleRoaryTiger |
hides |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
or LittleFluffyCuteKitten |
| 18:59 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
meh, I just took an awesme night photo of my backyard |
| 19:00 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
that I can't share because of a ton of private EXIF data |
| 19:00 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
including copyright stuff |
| 19:00 |
PR4472 |
why not remove EXIF? |
| 19:00 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
let me see if I can get rid off the EXIF |
| 19:00 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
will make a tiff without exif |
| 19:01 |
T4im |
"apt-get install mat" |
| 19:01 |
T4im |
or what ever your linux uses |
| 19:01 |
Krock |
sudo make me a sandwich |
| 19:01 |
T4im |
mat = metadata anonymisation toolkit |
| 19:01 |
Krock |
apt-get install floor mat |
| 19:02 |
PR4472 |
sudo review pr 4472 |
| 19:02 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
T4im: just saving as PNG after correcting white balance |
| 19:02 |
T4im |
png has metadata, too |
| 19:02 |
PR4472 |
if you use windows it has an option to remove exif builtin |
| 19:03 |
Krock |
T4im, MAT is also TLA |
| 19:03 |
T4im |
correct |
| 19:03 |
PR4472 |
TLA? |
| 19:03 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
can I run mat on PNG? |
| 19:03 |
T4im |
yes |
| 19:03 |
T4im |
you can run it on all images and documents |
| 19:04 |
T4im |
it's a good step doing before any media publishing |
| 19:04 |
Krock |
PR4472, three letter acronym |
| 19:04 |
PR4472 |
so it describes itself? |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
yes, self-describing |
| 19:05 |
T4im |
tla is a tla, yes |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
^^ |
| 19:05 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
T4im: well, often I do need to want all metadata I can get |
| 19:05 |
PR4472 |
3LA is a TLA? |
| 19:05 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
so I can get all rights on my own image |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
PR4472, depends if it's an acronym |
| 19:05 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
by the way, you gottal ove my terminal icon on my screenshots |
| 19:05 |
Krock |
if so, then it's a TLA, otherwise trash |
| 19:05 |
T4im |
in a sense we can let it slide as a tla, even though it's technically a odatla |
| 19:06 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
s/ove/love |
| 19:06 |
PR4472 |
3 Letter acronym |
| 19:06 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
insomnia, epic song |
| 19:06 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
old school |
| 19:06 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
ww |
| 19:06 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
wow |
| 19:07 |
T4im |
LittleRoaryTiger: your copyright should be unaffected by the lack of geographical location or camera used |
| 19:07 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
T4im: I right copyright info on exif with my camera, and my full name |
| 19:07 |
Krock |
T4im, and what's ODA (-TLA)? |
| 19:07 |
T4im |
well 3 is a digit, not a letter, is it? |
| 19:08 |
Krock |
yes |
| 19:08 |
Krock |
unless you're too 1337y |
| 19:08 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
just checked with mat, gimp export to png got rid of all exif |
| 19:08 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
and metadata |
| 19:08 |
PR4472 |
we need more ETLA's |
| 19:08 |
agaran |
I wish some servers would have 'no youtuber' policy.. |
| 19:08 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
I asked it to not save anything |
| 19:09 |
PR4472 |
agaran why? |
| 19:09 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
agaran: no youtubers on our server |
| 19:09 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
well, we had some in the past, long ago |
| 19:09 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
but not recently |
| 19:09 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
mostly because I don't give interact to them |
| 19:09 |
agaran |
PR4472: because I don't like them flying with noclip to my place on some server? not even asking if I am ok with that? |
| 19:09 |
Krock |
having youtubers is nice but kids pretending to be famous is not funny |
| 19:09 |
T4im |
LittleRoaryTiger: full name in images? that's quite courageous :D |
| 19:09 |
whitephoenix |
on a minetest server running in command-line can I somehow issue server commands from the command-line? |
| 19:09 |
agaran |
if you ask me, I'd prefer sending them some tactical nuclear warhead.. just to be sure they get other fun to do.. |
| 19:10 |
T4im |
unless you're a professional photographer, i guess |
| 19:10 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
T4im: If I publish a professional image on my professional portipholio on my professional website I want my name on my photo |
| 19:10 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
;) |
| 19:10 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, compile your binary with ncurses |
| 19:10 |
T4im |
yea, ok |
| 19:10 |
T4im |
so professional photographer, got it :D |
| 19:10 |
whitephoenix |
Krock, oh, is it safe to close the server with ^C? |
| 19:11 |
T4im |
that's seems a different situation, yea |
| 19:11 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Actually I never made a single cent with my photos, but still |
| 19:11 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
xP |
| 19:11 |
PR4472 |
agaran do many servers have noclip enabled? |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, yeah. always did that when I ran it on winblows and it worked fine |
| 19:11 |
agaran |
PR4472: I don't know but on this particular person had noclip.. |
| 19:11 |
PR4472 |
I though most had it disbled? |
| 19:11 |
whitephoenix |
alright |
| 19:11 |
Krock |
PR4472, all have noclip enabled since it's a builtin priv |
| 19:11 |
agaran |
hence I'd prefer to reply with warhead, to be sure that my mesage got thru.. (and yes you can hack it) |
| 19:12 |
Krock |
but not all players have that privilege granted |
| 19:12 |
T4im |
LittleRoaryTiger: but you probably still put a wall between your professional life and your minetest hobby? |
| 19:13 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
T4im: Megaf is a totally isolated personality |
| 19:13 |
T4im |
especially in minetest, where there is the potential of impossible kids |
| 19:13 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
from my personal life |
| 19:13 |
T4im |
smart :) |
| 19:13 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Megaf has it's own Skype, facebook, Google Plus, twitter, flickr, GIT repos and so on |
| 19:14 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
fun fact, Megaf is much older on the internet than the real me |
| 19:14 |
PR4472 |
well then It;s more of a problem of owners granting noclip to random players then youtubers |
| 19:15 |
agaran |
PR4472: well I don't care if random person flies thru but I never permitted my place to be published, see point? |
| 19:15 |
PR4472 |
I see |
| 19:15 |
Krock |
LittleRoaryTiger, you need snapchat, whatsapp, IRC and Tox too |
| 19:15 |
agaran |
besides that person was rude, going to my place uninvited etc.. but you are right, maybe time to change server |
| 19:15 |
PR4472 |
I guess that makes sense |
| 19:16 |
whitephoenix |
>the illustrated server creation guide |
| 19:16 |
whitephoenix |
has no illustrations 10/10 |
| 19:16 |
PR4472 |
11/10 |
| 19:16 |
Krock |
it has, but they are throwing 404 |
| 19:17 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Krock: Megaf has Tox and IRC |
| 19:17 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
snapshat and whatsapp I dont use at all |
| 19:17 |
whitephoenix |
wow I got a youtube comment on each of my mods, I think the only place I shared one was on reddit |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
looks like a moderator edited that topic after Sept 11 |
| 19:17 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
my real me uses Signal tho |
| 19:17 |
Krock |
whitephoenix, how about your one million chinese subscribers? |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
did they not see the new video? |
| 19:18 |
whitephoenix |
videos are unlisted |
| 19:18 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Ok, finally got the JPG with stripped metadata uploaded. This is my backyard. It is very dark on this photo. 30 seconds of exposure :) http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPaste/src/master/photo_experiments/IMG_1148.JPG |
| 19:18 |
whitephoenix |
so apparently some people have been finding my website somehow |
| 19:18 |
Krock |
ah. |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
too orange for me |
| 19:19 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
let me fix that for you |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
just turn it black & white |
| 19:19 |
Krock |
with no greyish tones in between |
| 19:20 |
whitephoenix |
still waiting to see some spooky halloween mods |
| 19:20 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
note, is dark, technically there's no colour |
| 19:20 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
whitephoenix: I started a project, waiting for people to contribute |
| 19:20 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Shara has been working on something |
| 19:20 |
PR4472 |
whats the project? |
| 19:21 |
Krock |
https://github.com/Megaf/halloween_mod |
| 19:21 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
there's nothing there yet |
| 19:21 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
will be adding this week ported from Shara stuff |
| 19:22 |
Krock |
I like to do reviews but don't have the motivation to draw textures that will look in any case crappy |
| 19:23 |
agaran |
well textures are my usual problem.. I can even do mesh in blender.. |
| 19:23 |
Krock |
neat |
| 19:24 |
PR4472 |
yeah pixel art is hard |
| 19:24 |
Krock |
I'm this kind of graphics designer: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/minetest/minetest/master/games/minimal/mods/default/textures/default_mese.png |
| 19:25 |
Krock |
best mese texture ever. Seriously. |
| 19:26 |
saveSuperflShade |
old one |
| 19:26 |
Krock |
hi Fixer |
| 19:26 |
PR4472 |
+4472 |
| 19:26 |
agaran |
some people like that kind of stuff.. friends @work toy with 8bit computers.. not emulators, real hardware.. |
| 19:26 |
saveSuperflShade |
hi Krock |
| 19:27 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Krock: with greenish tones here http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPaste/raw/master/photo_experiments/IMG_1148_CORRECTED.JPG |
| 19:27 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
and black and white http://git.megaf.info/Megaf/GitPaste/raw/master/photo_experiments/IMG_1148_BW.JPG |
| 19:27 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
not happy with levels tho |
| 19:27 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
and JPG is degrating quality a lot |
| 19:27 |
Krock |
still, looks nice :) |
| 19:27 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
the bright thing on the top right corner is the moon covered but a thick dark cloud |
| 19:28 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
the corrected to green version I quite like actually |
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* LittleRoaryTiger |
listening to Sandstorm - Darude :) |
| 19:32 |
Krock |
go for Darude Astley. SOmeone took the time to mix both songs |
| 19:32 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Oo |
| 19:32 |
* LittleRoaryTiger |
searches |
| 19:32 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
I was jus following this https://play.spotify.com/user/spotify_uk_/playlist/5UYhZCbxqlZ0CtWJDjW3e7 |
| 19:33 |
agaran |
cat5: why not cat6 or cat7? |
| 19:33 |
agaran |
10GbE for the win |
| 19:33 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
agaran: justb e happy is not a coaxial |
| 19:33 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
or even token |
| 19:34 |
Krock |
LittleRoaryTiger, it's on YT |
| 19:34 |
agaran |
LittleRoaryTiger: well today we got 'complain' email that one of our interconnect is limited to 40GbE.. |
| 19:34 |
agaran |
not scaling up as intended to 80GbE.. |
| 19:34 |
agaran |
so.. /me gets quiet |
| 19:34 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Krock: is this is it? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQoA_wjmE9w |
| 19:34 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
!title |
| 19:34 |
MinetestBot |
LittleRoaryTiger: Darude Astley - Sandroll - YouTube |
| 19:35 |
Krock |
yes, LittleRoaryTiger |
| 19:35 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
it sounds |
| 19:35 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
interesting |
| 19:35 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
but |
| 19:35 |
* LittleRoaryTiger |
dont likes dat |
| 19:35 |
* Krock |
accepts |
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agaran |
Krock: we did ack that too.. not our fault really, but sure I'd prefer having faster links.. drives are permanently connected via too slow interface.. |
| 19:36 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
Krock: sounds epic at 2x speed tho |
| 19:37 |
Krock |
agaran, 80 Gbit/s sounds damn fast |
| 19:37 |
agaran |
it is.. but some stuff can saturate 20Gbps links.. so 40GbE interconnect is not enough (tm) |
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LittleRoaryTiger |
[17:12:19] --> LazyJ (~LazyJ c-24-16-203-134.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) has joined #Megaf |
| 19:39 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
How the heck did he found my secret place? |
| 19:39 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
find* |
| 19:39 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
oh now, no longer secret |
| 19:39 |
agaran |
it is not -that- hard to guess.. |
| 19:39 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
oh no* |
| 19:40 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
That's why it's hard, because is evident |
| 19:40 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
evident is hard |
| 19:40 |
Krock |
LittleRoaryTiger, *she, AFAIK |
| 19:41 |
whitephoenix |
trying to install mesecons on a server, got two errors |
| 19:41 |
LittleRoaryTiger |
oh no! They are invading my secret place! |
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Megaf |
eh, #Megaf is one, full of people now, largest number of people there since 2009 |
| 19:54 |
Megaf |
s/one/done |
| 20:00 |
whitephoenix |
Players want /home, I think its super overpowered, thoughts? |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
I think home priv is a valid default priv |
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Megaf |
I grant shout,fast,home, as default |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
interact n request |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
on* |
| 20:01 |
Megaf |
my keyboard is too slow for my fingers |
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Megaf |
and my fingers too slow for brain |
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whitephoenix |
Megaf, how do you set default privs? |
| 20:08 |
agaran |
whitephoenix: default_privs = shout |
| 20:08 |
agaran |
in minetest.conf |
| 20:09 |
whitephoenix |
I must be blind, I don't see minetest.conf |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
whitephoenix: oh no |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
whitephoenix: what OS are you using? |
| 20:10 |
Megaf |
or windows? |
| 20:10 |
Krock |
join the game and enter /set default_privs shout |
| 20:10 |
whitephoenix |
this is a linux server |
| 20:10 |
whitephoenix |
oh okay |
| 20:11 |
whitephoenix |
then can I grant existing players a priv all at once? |
| 20:11 |
DI3HARD139 |
assuming a debian based os is being used: /home/<username>/.minetest You may have to do ctrl + h to unhide it |
| 20:12 |
Krock |
not sure. maybe you'll need a mod to do it manually |
| 20:12 |
whitephoenix |
nope isn't there |
| 20:12 |
DI3HARD139 |
You may also have to manually create it if the client hasn't been launched |
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whitephoenix |
:%s/shout/shout,home/g worked well |
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whitephoenix |
huh xdecor has an error too |
| 20:18 |
T4im |
tell me more |
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whitephoenix |
xdecor attempt to call field copy |
| 20:20 |
whitephoenix |
sorry log scrolled past it now |
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Krock |
too bad. restart |
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whitephoenix |
if I compiled minetest for the server would everyone else's slightly older clients work? |
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whitephoenix |
I'll open an issue when I can restart the server |
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Krock |
c'mon, IRC-OPs |
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kaeza |
whitephoenix, you can probably connect 0.4.3 clients to 0.4.14 |
| 20:50 |
whitephoenix |
alright thanks |
| 20:51 |
kaeza |
other than missing stuff on the client, I don't think there would be any problems |
| 20:51 |
kaeza |
the client protocols are amazingly backwards-compatible |
| 20:52 |
kaeza |
(FWIW, the game is (was?) also able to load pre-0.4 worlds) |
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MinetestBot |
[git] Nestorfish -> minetest/minetestmapper: TileGenerator: free database resources (#38) 26b6293 https://git.io/vPrJB (2016-10-13T23:26:59+02:00) |
| 21:31 |
MinetestBot |
[git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Use range-based fog instead of z-plane based. 0ad40fd https://git.io/vPrJM (2016-10-13T23:30:15+02:00) |
| 21:31 |
sfan5 |
kaeza: some code for the flat-directory format remains in server.cpp IIRC |
| 21:44 |
Calinou |
kaeza: the game still can load 0.3 worlds |
| 21:44 |
Calinou |
but, 0.2 worlds prior to 0.2_20110922 need to be converted to SQLite |
| 21:44 |
kaeza |
sfan5, Calinou, nice to know |
| 21:45 |
Calinou |
<MinetestBot> [git] lhofhansl -> minetest/minetest: Use range-based fog instead of z-plane based. 0ad40fd https://git.io/vPrJM (2016-10-13T23:30:15+02:00) |
| 21:45 |
Calinou |
only took Minetest 6 years to do it, compared to Minecraft :^) |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
2017 will be the year of the linux desktop |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
i mean |
| 21:45 |
sfan5 |
minetest on the desktop |
| 21:46 |
T4im |
i only saw earlier; there's finally copy paste for linux? :o |
| 21:46 |
Calinou |
T4im: yeah... blame Irrlicht |
| 21:46 |
T4im |
i know |
| 21:46 |
T4im |
but.. didn't hear that it was fixed \o/ that's great |
| 21:47 |
Calinou |
this is why general-purpose game engines are winning the battle: they come with unmatched desktop integration on all platforms |
| 21:47 |
Calinou |
(or at least, they try to) |
| 21:47 |
Calinou |
your random self-made engine doesn't |
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saveSuperflShade |
sfan5: 2017 will be the year of the Minetest desktop |
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saveSuperflShade |
Calinou: i'm not really sure someone even thinked about the fog |
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garywhite |
What is the minetest desktop? |
| 22:26 |
whitephoenix |
would anyone happen to know what causes this error? http://i.imgur.com/WWDjI0I.png |
| 22:27 |
whitephoenix |
2 players on this server are complaining about it |
| 22:29 |
Persi[m] |
garywhite: I think it's just meant to be a joke, like those posts that used to be on Slashdot all the time |
| 22:33 |
garywhite |
oh ok |
| 22:36 |
Persi[m] |
garywhite: you know the ones, like "2004 will be the year of the linux desktop" |
| 22:36 |
garywhite |
Oh ok, or like "2015 will be the year of the worst Windows ever" |
| 22:37 |
whitephoenix |
$current_year + 1 will be the year of the linux desktop |
| 22:39 |
Persi[m] |
Funny thing, back then I actually believed it |
| 22:41 |
T4im |
that there would be a hype? |
| 22:41 |
T4im |
or a worse windows? |
| 22:41 |
sfan5 |
whitephoenix: that error has nothing to do with unicode and might be caused by an incompatibility |
| 22:41 |
sfan5 |
or a network error |
| 22:42 |
whitephoenix |
huh alright |
| 22:42 |
T4im |
hm, I've see a lot of serialization errors too lately, different ones though; is there any way finding out, what is being serialized wrongly? |
| 22:42 |
whitephoenix |
server was just compiled from git, I think everyone is just running 0.4.14 so that could be it |
| 22:42 |
T4im |
"Client::handleCommand_ActiveObjectMessages: caught SerializationError: deSerializeString: couldn't read all chars" |
| 22:42 |
sfan5 |
well it already tells you |
| 22:43 |
T4im |
hm.. can't it tell a bit more? like what object it is? |
| 22:43 |
whitephoenix |
mods are deathsounds, sprint, travelnet, wield3d, xdecor, mobs, hudbars, and rms |
| 22:43 |
whitephoenix |
anyways not real important, no one is having other issues |
| 22:44 |
sfan5 |
mods should not be able to cause these kind of issues |
| 22:44 |
whitephoenix |
I did see a closed issue about something similar in single player |
| 22:44 |
whitephoenix |
but that caused an actual crash https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2541 |
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