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nolsen |
Void7: Know anything? |
| 00:06 |
Void7 |
no |
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nolsen |
Damn, this channel is dead >.> |
| 00:49 |
Hijiri |
I would say it is about average activity level |
| 00:49 |
nolsen |
Hijiri: Average? |
| 00:49 |
nolsen |
Nobody is talking |
| 00:49 |
nolsen |
!mod cpu optimization |
| 00:49 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: Could not find anything. |
| 00:49 |
Hijiri |
most irc channels are deader |
| 00:50 |
nolsen |
Can't find anything on how to optimize my single-core server. |
| 00:50 |
Hijiri |
to have constant activity you need to go on a programming language channel or other large project like #debian |
| 00:50 |
Hijiri |
or a language channel |
| 00:51 |
Hijiri |
I don't know anything about optimizing specifically for single cores |
| 00:51 |
nolsen |
Hijiri: Well, it keeps timing out |
| 00:51 |
Hijiri |
what does |
| 00:51 |
nolsen |
Sometimes it's not even use 100% cpu |
| 00:51 |
nolsen |
but it times out |
| 00:51 |
Hijiri |
what times out |
| 00:51 |
nolsen |
"What does" |
| 00:51 |
nolsen |
What kind of question is that? |
| 00:51 |
Hijiri |
sorry, should have been "what keeps timing out?" |
| 00:51 |
nolsen |
m( |
| 00:52 |
nolsen |
Hijiri: My server. |
| 00:52 |
nolsen |
Jesus christ, isn't it obvious? |
| 00:52 |
Hijiri |
is is a specific part? |
| 00:52 |
nolsen |
i don't know |
| 00:52 |
Hijiri |
your connection to a server can time out, or your ABMs can take too long to run, or other things like that |
| 00:52 |
nolsen |
No |
| 00:52 |
nolsen |
Nobody can connect |
| 00:52 |
nolsen |
it times out |
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Hijiri |
I don't think that is an optimization issue |
| 00:53 |
nolsen |
It is. |
| 00:53 |
nolsen |
The server can't keep up for some reason |
| 00:53 |
ElectronLibre |
(An ABM never times out though, it could loop forever) |
| 00:53 |
Hijiri |
are you able to connect initially? |
| 00:53 |
nolsen |
Of course. |
| 00:53 |
nolsen |
But it lags for a few minutes. |
| 00:53 |
nolsen |
And you can't do anything. |
| 00:53 |
nolsen |
you can't even reconnect. |
| 00:54 |
Hijiri |
Alright, sorry, I guess that is server-side lag |
| 00:54 |
Hijiri |
Are you running with any mods? If not, it could have something to do with map gen, which usually runs in a nother thread |
| 00:55 |
nolsen |
Of course I do. |
| 00:55 |
nolsen |
Minetest sucks without mods. |
| 00:55 |
Hijiri |
I mean, any mods other than minetest_game's |
| 00:55 |
nolsen |
m( |
| 00:55 |
Hijiri |
what's m( |
| 00:55 |
nolsen |
Hijiri: You must be new to IRC. |
| 00:55 |
nolsen |
It's called a facepalm. |
| 00:55 |
Hijiri |
I've been on IRC for at least a couple years, but I've never seen m( |
| 00:56 |
Hijiri |
that is new compared to the age of IRC I guess |
| 00:56 |
nolsen |
I can't even keep players on my server. |
| 00:56 |
nolsen |
they leave when it lags. |
| 00:56 |
nolsen |
and my server becomes dead. |
| 00:56 |
Hijiri |
Have you tried seeing if you get the same issues with vanilla minetest_game? |
| 00:56 |
nolsen |
No. |
| 00:56 |
nolsen |
Because I don't want to disable all my mods |
| 00:57 |
nolsen |
for a useless test. |
| 00:57 |
Hijiri |
It might be a mod that's being expensive |
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Hijiri |
If you don't think any of your mods would take too much server time then I guess you can rule it out without testing |
| 00:59 |
Hijiri |
have you already done the not-specific-to-single-core optimizations like lowering max_simultaneous_block_sends_* ? |
| 01:01 |
Hijiri |
If the game processing is hanging for minutes at a time, it might not solve it, but it could help |
| 01:02 |
nolsen |
no |
| 01:03 |
Hijiri |
this forum post has some common configuration options for improving performance https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 |
| 01:03 |
nolsen |
!server such survival server |
| 01:03 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 1/15, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 1ms |
| 01:04 |
nolsen |
I have 300Mbps connection on my VPS, so bandwidth speed doesn't matter. |
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Hijiri |
you can still reduce CPU usage by sending less blocks |
| 01:05 |
Hijiri |
then less map has to be generated while people explore |
| 01:11 |
nolsen |
!mod heads |
| 01:11 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: Bring Me The Head [heads] by thefamilygrog66 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7020 |
| 01:11 |
nolsen |
!mod moving heads |
| 01:11 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: Could not find anything. |
| 01:11 |
nolsen |
!mod sprint |
| 01:11 |
MinetestBot |
nolsen: Sprint [sprint] by GunshipPenguin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9650 |
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nolsen |
Performance might improve if there was a way to preload all the terrian |
| 01:15 |
nolsen |
or generate all the chunks |
| 01:15 |
nolsen |
er, nodes. |
| 01:16 |
nolsen |
And just load/unload |
| 01:18 |
Hijiri |
I don't think you can keep the game from loading on its own, but it's possible to cause map generation from lua |
| 01:18 |
Hijiri |
It's a bit of a hack, but reading the map into a VoxelManip will load the blocks covered |
| 01:18 |
Hijiri |
technic uses it here: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/3db3a9cc32a453a58a18321f99e531725749e681/technic/helpers.lua#L49 |
| 01:19 |
Hijiri |
it still won't keep players from causing generation by walking far/digging deep though |
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nolsen |
!server such survival server |
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MinetestBot |
nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 5/15, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 2ms |
| 01:31 |
nolsen |
hm, 2ms lag |
| 01:31 |
nolsen |
So far, so good. |
| 01:31 |
nolsen |
with the changes |
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Hijiri |
!mod ufos |
| 02:26 |
MinetestBot |
Hijiri: UFOs [ufos] by Zeg9 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4086 |
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nolsen: have to go for a abit |
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nolsen |
!server such survival server |
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MinetestBot |
nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 1ms |
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[git] Jeija -> Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #276: Fix bugs in block forceloading in turnon / turnoff 7c7595f https://git.io/vK9Og (2016-07-25T10:01:43+02:00) |
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hisforever |
I want to change the code for time which file do I do that in? |
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Calinou |
souvenirs, souvenirs... |
| 09:58 |
Calinou |
http://c55.me/minetest2/index.php |
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agaran |
can anyone confirm that ^[colorize:#000000:130 makes texture darker in amount that node gets brigther when it is light source? (well perhaps it depends on light amount too..) |
| 11:27 |
Calinou |
screenshot? |
| 11:28 |
agaran |
well I'll explain maybe, I have node that is lamp, when it is off textures on it match cabling etc.. when it is on they get brighter.. I found with gimp how brigther they get, then got idea to instead make separate textures for both cases, use just ^colorize transform to use same set |
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agaran |
for me it is doing work but I wonder if for other gpu/display stack it will work same |
| 11:29 |
agaran |
as gamma etc may be different for other graphic card |
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agaran |
and mod itself is not yet ready enough to be shown, even as pre-alpha |
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everamzah |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDd02TTxBA |
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IhrFussel |
Best way to determine something is a player or not inside register_on_punchplayer() ? |
| 12:07 |
everamzah |
player:is_player() i think |
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IhrFussel |
everamzah, yes that's what I need. Thanks :) |
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everamzah |
no problemo |
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IhrFussel |
I coded a mod for my server which is supposed to ignore any damage by players if they are NOT inside a specified area...now the problem is that it also ignores any damage caused by monsters. I already tried to wrap the whole function inside a player:is_player() condition but it doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/TbEAYqCW |
| 13:49 |
behalebabo |
IhrFussel: You should check if the hitter is a player, not if the player is |
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IhrFussel |
Oh you're right I think i mixed that up... |
| 13:53 |
ElectronLibre |
IhrFussel: I coded that a while ago, maybe you can use it as a model |
| 13:54 |
ElectronLibre |
https://github.com/MinetestForFun/server-minetestforfun-skyblock/tree/master/mods/peace_areas |
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agaran |
facedir can take values between 0 and 3 inclusive, right? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
agaran: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=73195&sid=882d486d646219804468baca844187d2#p73195 |
| 14:40 |
agaran |
binary answer was enough ;) |
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Krock |
agaran, the binary answer would be 0 |
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agaran |
Krock: yup |
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agaran |
thefamilygrog66: thanks :) so I need more clever approach |
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nolsen |
!server such survival server |
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MinetestBot |
nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 1/15, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 2ms |
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nm0i |
!server Megaf |
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MinetestBot |
nm0i: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/24, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms |
| 15:54 |
agaran |
thefamilygrog66: thanks that hint lead me to find something else buggy in my code |
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agaran |
Krock: want to see what I meant with less bulky wiring? |
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aix |
hi |
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agaran |
hello |
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| 16:01 |
aix |
My server doesn't actually listen -.- |
| 16:02 |
aix |
says Server for gameid="lightning" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000. but netstat says otherwise |
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agaran |
what netstat says? |
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aix |
uh |
| 16:07 |
agaran |
maybe you have some other means that force app to bind to certain ip (you can do that for example with vservers, with lxc, perhaps also few other ways) |
| 16:07 |
aix |
what the |
| 16:08 |
aix |
okay it works if i su to the mt user but not when i ssh into it |
| 16:08 |
aix |
great |
| 16:08 |
agaran |
see? so you inherit root permissions with su mt, but when you ssh to mt you get only mt privileges |
| 16:08 |
aix |
anyway it's back up |
| 16:08 |
aix |
actually |
| 16:08 |
aix |
sshing into mt gives you a huge stack size |
| 16:08 |
aix |
i should probably undo that |
| 16:09 |
aix |
mt hard stack 1000000000 this was dumb |
| 16:10 |
agaran |
ulimit -a to inspect |
| 16:13 |
aix |
https://sr.ht/8Dg7.png |
| 16:13 |
aix |
well they did say please |
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aix |
aw hell why not |
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nolsen |
Why does technic have no documentation on how to use it? |
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nolsen |
oh, nevermind. |
| 16:20 |
Krock |
aix, it's sad that good players never ask for being admin |
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agaran |
nolsen: I was reading code a lot when I started to toy with it, what you need? |
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aix |
Krock: ah, haven't come across any of those yet |
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nolsen |
agaran: How do I use the switching station? |
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aix |
maybe i should add mesecons & co to my server |
| 16:22 |
agaran |
just connect to its bottom to make your network work |
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nolsen |
Too complex. |
| 16:22 |
agaran |
nothing is to be done with it, but every separate net needs it in it |
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agaran |
nolsen: well in technic switching station is piece that actually does all computing of power.. |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
Doesn't work |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
I put a wire near it |
| 16:23 |
nolsen |
does nothing |
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agaran |
under |
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agaran |
most of technic stuff connect ONLY under |
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aix |
guys should i do it |
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aix |
oh what the hell let's do it |
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nolsen |
agaran: Tried that |
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nolsen |
It won't even fit the HV cables |
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agaran |
nolsen: it works for me, your server is reachable from public? |
| 16:31 |
nolsen |
No, it's reachable from space. |
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agaran |
outern space at least? |
| 16:33 |
agaran |
I have something like that fuel fired generator, under it LV cable, next to it, another cable and over it switching station.. next to it, cable and lv furnace |
| 16:33 |
agaran |
(optionally iwth battery also connected same way) |
| 16:35 |
agaran |
nolsen: but if you like to go to some server where technic is enabled like VE creative, I can show you too.. |
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agaran |
nolsen: got it? |
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aix |
https://sr.ht/ndts.txt how i'm getting this error |
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aix |
now* |
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Krock |
requires mesecons' mvps mod |
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nolsen |
agaran: Suppy: 0, demand 0 |
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nolsen |
The solar panels have no network |
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agaran |
nolsen: wire from bottom of solar panel to wire under switching station ? |
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nolsen |
agaran: Doesn't work |
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nolsen |
Technic must be broken. |
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nolsen |
or a shitty mod |
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agaran |
I am using it.. maybe it is not smooth in all places, it works |
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agaran |
you have release, or snapshot? |
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nolsen |
I don't know |
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agaran |
you are on your own server right? |
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nolsen |
Oh, I used the wrong wire |
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agaran |
/giveme technic:lv_generator then place it next to your station with wire under.. |
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agaran |
for lv you use white, for medium you have black, |
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nolsen |
I'm pretty sure I can see the names |
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agaran |
oh, but from distance you better see color of it.. in some tries I had 60 nodes height between lowest and highest point in one power grid.. |
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agaran |
sometimes there were issues.. |
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nolsen |
Supply 11,000 now |
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agaran |
thats quite a lot of panels.. |
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agaran |
55 for max power for solar panel.. |
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nolsen |
200 EU |
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nolsen |
per panel |
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agaran |
yup, |
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agaran |
thats why I said a lot.. |
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nolsen |
There's no instructions for the nuclear reactor rod |
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agaran |
oh, I never got to nuclear stuff there yet, not enough uranium found so far.. |
| 17:09 |
nolsen |
I can just use the inventory to get more |
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agaran |
then you will be grinding and centrifuging for days until you get enriched.. |
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agaran |
this way yo can get just rector core, and there was some readme in technic that had basic stuff explained |
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nolsen |
I filled it with uranium fuel |
| 17:09 |
nolsen |
did nothing |
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nolsen |
Obviously broken |
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agaran |
in mine is manual.md, well, I can't say I haven't tested it yet |
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agaran |
from quick glance in manual you need turn uranium into fuel rods first.. |
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agaran |
and core needs proper cooling and radiaton shield too |
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nolsen |
agaran: The manual is too complex |
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nolsen |
I need a simple version |
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nolsen |
agaran: I set up pipeworks to provide the reactor cooling. |
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nolsen |
Put uranium rods inside |
| 18:04 |
nolsen |
the thing is surrounded in water. |
| 18:05 |
nolsen |
But the thing is on "Idle" |
| 18:05 |
agaran |
you need water nodes I think.. |
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agaran |
not flowing water.. but I may be wrong |
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agaran |
never tried to do it actually |
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nolsen |
Yes, there are water nodes. |
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nolsen |
coming from spigots. |
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Void7 |
quote from the manual: "water blocks may be either source blocks or flowing blocks" |
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Void7 |
layers are: flowing/source water, stainless steel, blast-resistant concrete blocks |
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nolsen |
agaran: What do I need to do now? |
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agaran |
building my reactor, moment |
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agaran |
you put six rods of course? |
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nolsen |
yes. |
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agaran |
mine works.. |
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agaran |
Power station says 100000 supply.. |
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nolsen |
Mine is on diel |
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nolsen |
idel |
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nolsen |
idle |
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agaran |
I build core, around cube of water nodes, around that bigger cube of stainless steel blocks, around that cube of blast proof concrete |
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agaran |
2 holes, one up, to fill rector core with fuel, second down, for hv cable to station |
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nolsen |
I didn't use any concrete |
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agaran |
stainless steel blocks at least? |
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agaran |
added fourteen hv bateries, and they charge properly so I guess it is working fine.. |
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agaran |
single bat got charged in 10 seconds so.. |
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nolsen |
no, carbon steel |
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agaran |
try stainless then? maybe it is sensitive to kind of enclosure? |
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agaran |
and now I got chernobylite bucket |
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nolsen |
"Invalid search node name" |
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nolsen |
Can't use world edit |
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nolsen |
It says carbon is invalid |
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nolsen |
but it sees it |
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agaran |
technic:stainless_steel_block |
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agaran |
you need this |
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nolsen |
Nuclear reactor core idle |
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nolsen |
I ven tried concrete |
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nolsen |
even* |
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agaran |
and I rebuild my reactor again after blowing it up.. well, for me it works, cube of water, cube of stainless steel, cube of blast proof concrete (helps for explosion of core) |
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Fixer |
"Quake 1 Ported To Run On Vulkan" but why.... |
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agaran |
Fixer: I guess one said 'Because I can' |
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nolsen |
agaran: You use uranium fuel right? |
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nolsen |
6 of them? |
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agaran |
nolsen: yes |
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nolsen |
!server such survival server |
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nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 2/15, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 2ms |
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agaran |
lol, palm leaves got into building through solid wall.. |
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est31 |
thats one of the problems of the waving leaves |
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agaran |
but it looked funny inside.. |
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agaran |
nolsen: I meant, you don't need regenerate world.. just use inventory to get what you need.. or giveme command.. try, if you like then you redo |
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aix |
what does a digilines memory chip do? |
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Hijiri |
guessing you can send requests to store and get data from the chip |
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babylon |
where would i go to find a small, unmoderated (preferably technic) server? it seems like most of the publicly listed ones have enormous cities built with 20+ players |
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agaran |
babylon: well, there are some servers that aim at creative building but space available there is rather big enough to find own part of field.. |
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agaran |
nolsen: got it? |
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* nm0i |
introduced DPS into toxic rain... |
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babylon |
do you need a specific type of alloy furnace to make stainless steel? chromium+iron ingots in the fuel-fired alloy furnace doesn't seem to smelt at all |
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agaran |
babylon: chromium + carboon steel |
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babylon |
is there a wiki that lists the recipes? cause the one listed on the technic mod page has misleading information (http://technic.kosyak.info/) |
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agaran |
well I looked at that site, then started to read mod source.. |
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babylon |
oh lol, sorry... i found it on github |
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Hijiri |
how common is savannah-swamp biome? |
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agaran |
never encountered, what mod is providing it? |
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Hijiri |
agaran: default |
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agaran |
never saw it, I am jealous.. |
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Hijiri |
I haven't seen it either |
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Hijiri |
apparently it is the only biome that spawns papyrus too |
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agaran |
Hijiri: hmm, then I saw it not knowing, as I use papyrus for some stuff (though sometimes it is loooooooooong walk till I find it) |
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Hijiri |
alright |
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agaran |
I usually try to search edges of water areas.. if I am lucky I find lone 2-3 papyrus plants then cultivate them close to my 'settlement' |
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agaran |
that reminds me about almost empty papyrus stash..:) |
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nolsen |
!server such survival server |
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nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 2/15, 2/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 49ms |
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nolsen |
49ms |
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nolsen |
dam |
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nolsen |
damn* |
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rubenwardy |
can anyone recommend a server which has very nice medieval towns and castles? |
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Sand_Minetest |
I don't remember any server like that, I'll help look though |
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Sand_Minetest |
was it on the public list? |
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rubenwardy |
I want a suggestion of one to visit |
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rubenwardy |
It's not one I've lost |
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Sand_Minetest |
oh, sorry |
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Sand_Minetest |
I read "remembered" instead of "recommend" |
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Sand_Minetest |
my mistake |
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Fixer |
Liberty Land has a few iirc |
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IhrFussel |
Players ask me what the command is to reconnect? Not sure if it's a server command or client one |
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agaran |
I think you just need click as usual in client.. or I did not found any other way |
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sfan5 |
there's no command for reconnecting |
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IhrFussel |
sfan5, but i saw some talk about such a "reconnect to server without logout" talk |
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IhrFussel |
command* |
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IhrFussel |
Anyways thanks for the help =) |
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