Time Nick Message 00:06 nolsen Void7: Know anything? 00:06 Void7 no 00:48 nolsen Damn, this channel is dead >.> 00:49 Hijiri I would say it is about average activity level 00:49 nolsen Hijiri: Average? 00:49 nolsen Nobody is talking 00:49 nolsen !mod cpu optimization 00:49 MinetestBot nolsen: Could not find anything. 00:49 Hijiri most irc channels are deader 00:50 nolsen Can't find anything on how to optimize my single-core server. 00:50 Hijiri to have constant activity you need to go on a programming language channel or other large project like #debian 00:50 Hijiri or a language channel 00:51 Hijiri I don't know anything about optimizing specifically for single cores 00:51 nolsen Hijiri: Well, it keeps timing out 00:51 Hijiri what does 00:51 nolsen Sometimes it's not even use 100% cpu 00:51 nolsen but it times out 00:51 Hijiri what times out 00:51 nolsen "What does" 00:51 nolsen What kind of question is that? 00:51 Hijiri sorry, should have been "what keeps timing out?" 00:51 nolsen m( 00:52 nolsen Hijiri: My server. 00:52 nolsen Jesus christ, isn't it obvious? 00:52 Hijiri is is a specific part? 00:52 nolsen i don't know 00:52 Hijiri your connection to a server can time out, or your ABMs can take too long to run, or other things like that 00:52 nolsen No 00:52 nolsen Nobody can connect 00:52 nolsen it times out 00:52 Hijiri I don't think that is an optimization issue 00:53 nolsen It is. 00:53 nolsen The server can't keep up for some reason 00:53 ElectronLibre (An ABM never times out though, it could loop forever) 00:53 Hijiri are you able to connect initially? 00:53 nolsen Of course. 00:53 nolsen But it lags for a few minutes. 00:53 nolsen And you can't do anything. 00:53 nolsen you can't even reconnect. 00:54 Hijiri Alright, sorry, I guess that is server-side lag 00:54 Hijiri Are you running with any mods? If not, it could have something to do with map gen, which usually runs in a nother thread 00:55 nolsen Of course I do. 00:55 nolsen Minetest sucks without mods. 00:55 Hijiri I mean, any mods other than minetest_game's 00:55 nolsen m( 00:55 Hijiri what's m( 00:55 nolsen Hijiri: You must be new to IRC. 00:55 nolsen It's called a facepalm. 00:55 Hijiri I've been on IRC for at least a couple years, but I've never seen m( 00:56 Hijiri that is new compared to the age of IRC I guess 00:56 nolsen I can't even keep players on my server. 00:56 nolsen they leave when it lags. 00:56 nolsen and my server becomes dead. 00:56 Hijiri Have you tried seeing if you get the same issues with vanilla minetest_game? 00:56 nolsen No. 00:56 nolsen Because I don't want to disable all my mods 00:57 nolsen for a useless test. 00:57 Hijiri It might be a mod that's being expensive 00:58 Hijiri If you don't think any of your mods would take too much server time then I guess you can rule it out without testing 00:59 Hijiri have you already done the not-specific-to-single-core optimizations like lowering max_simultaneous_block_sends_* ? 01:01 Hijiri If the game processing is hanging for minutes at a time, it might not solve it, but it could help 01:02 nolsen no 01:03 Hijiri this forum post has some common configuration options for improving performance https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 01:03 nolsen !server such survival server 01:03 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 1/15, 1/4 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 1ms 01:04 nolsen I have 300Mbps connection on my VPS, so bandwidth speed doesn't matter. 01:04 Hijiri you can still reduce CPU usage by sending less blocks 01:05 Hijiri then less map has to be generated while people explore 01:11 nolsen !mod heads 01:11 MinetestBot nolsen: Bring Me The Head [heads] by thefamilygrog66 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7020 01:11 nolsen !mod moving heads 01:11 MinetestBot nolsen: Could not find anything. 01:11 nolsen !mod sprint 01:11 MinetestBot nolsen: Sprint [sprint] by GunshipPenguin - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=9650 01:15 nolsen Performance might improve if there was a way to preload all the terrian 01:15 nolsen or generate all the chunks 01:15 nolsen er, nodes. 01:16 nolsen And just load/unload 01:18 Hijiri I don't think you can keep the game from loading on its own, but it's possible to cause map generation from lua 01:18 Hijiri It's a bit of a hack, but reading the map into a VoxelManip will load the blocks covered 01:18 Hijiri technic uses it here: https://github.com/minetest-technic/technic/blob/3db3a9cc32a453a58a18321f99e531725749e681/technic/helpers.lua#L49 01:19 Hijiri it still won't keep players from causing generation by walking far/digging deep though 01:31 nolsen !server such survival server 01:31 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 5/15, 1/5 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 2ms 01:31 nolsen hm, 2ms lag 01:31 nolsen So far, so good. 01:31 nolsen with the changes 02:26 Hijiri !mod ufos 02:26 MinetestBot Hijiri: UFOs [ufos] by Zeg9 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=4086 03:23 Hijiri nolsen: have to go for a abit 03:52 nolsen !server such survival server 03:52 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 0/15, 0/0 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 1ms 08:09 MinetestBot 02[git] 04Jeija -> 03Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Fix #276: Fix bugs in block forceloading in turnon / turnoff 137c7595f https://git.io/vK9Og (152016-07-25T10:01:43+02:00) 09:37 hisforever I want to change the code for time which file do I do that in? 09:58 Calinou souvenirs, souvenirs... 09:58 Calinou http://c55.me/minetest2/index.php 11:26 agaran can anyone confirm that ^[colorize:#000000:130 makes texture darker in amount that node gets brigther when it is light source? (well perhaps it depends on light amount too..) 11:27 Calinou screenshot? 11:28 agaran well I'll explain maybe, I have node that is lamp, when it is off textures on it match cabling etc.. when it is on they get brighter.. I found with gimp how brigther they get, then got idea to instead make separate textures for both cases, use just ^colorize transform to use same set 11:28 agaran for me it is doing work but I wonder if for other gpu/display stack it will work same 11:29 agaran as gamma etc may be different for other graphic card 11:29 agaran and mod itself is not yet ready enough to be shown, even as pre-alpha 12:06 everamzah https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=goDd02TTxBA 12:06 IhrFussel Best way to determine something is a player or not inside register_on_punchplayer() ? 12:07 everamzah player:is_player() i think 12:08 IhrFussel everamzah, yes that's what I need. Thanks :) 12:08 everamzah no problemo 13:48 IhrFussel I coded a mod for my server which is supposed to ignore any damage by players if they are NOT inside a specified area...now the problem is that it also ignores any damage caused by monsters. I already tried to wrap the whole function inside a player:is_player() condition but it doesn't work: http://pastebin.com/TbEAYqCW 13:49 behalebabo IhrFussel: You should check if the hitter is a player, not if the player is 13:50 IhrFussel Oh you're right I think i mixed that up... 13:53 ElectronLibre IhrFussel: I coded that a while ago, maybe you can use it as a model 13:54 ElectronLibre https://github.com/MinetestForFun/server-minetestforfun-skyblock/tree/master/mods/peace_areas 14:33 agaran facedir can take values between 0 and 3 inclusive, right? 14:40 thefamilygrog66 agaran: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=73195&sid=882d486d646219804468baca844187d2#p73195 14:40 agaran binary answer was enough ;) 14:41 Krock agaran, the binary answer would be 0 14:41 agaran Krock: yup 14:41 agaran thefamilygrog66: thanks :) so I need more clever approach 15:48 nolsen !server such survival server 15:48 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 1/15, 0/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 2ms 15:48 nm0i !server Megaf 15:49 MinetestBot nm0i: Megaf Server v4.0 | mt.megaf.info:30003 | Clients: 1/24, 0/1 | Version: 0.4.14-Megaf / MegafXploreNext | Ping: 7ms 15:54 agaran thefamilygrog66: thanks that hint lead me to find something else buggy in my code 15:54 agaran Krock: want to see what I meant with less bulky wiring? 15:56 aix hi 15:56 agaran hello 16:01 aix My server doesn't actually listen -.- 16:02 aix says Server for gameid="lightning" listening on 0.0.0.0:30000. but netstat says otherwise 16:07 agaran what netstat says? 16:07 aix uh 16:07 agaran maybe you have some other means that force app to bind to certain ip (you can do that for example with vservers, with lxc, perhaps also few other ways) 16:07 aix what the 16:08 aix okay it works if i su to the mt user but not when i ssh into it 16:08 aix great 16:08 agaran see? so you inherit root permissions with su mt, but when you ssh to mt you get only mt privileges 16:08 aix anyway it's back up 16:08 aix actually 16:08 aix sshing into mt gives you a huge stack size 16:08 aix i should probably undo that 16:09 aix mt hard stack 1000000000 this was dumb 16:10 agaran ulimit -a to inspect 16:13 aix https://sr.ht/8Dg7.png 16:13 aix well they did say please 16:13 aix aw hell why not 16:19 nolsen Why does technic have no documentation on how to use it? 16:20 nolsen oh, nevermind. 16:20 Krock aix, it's sad that good players never ask for being admin 16:20 agaran nolsen: I was reading code a lot when I started to toy with it, what you need? 16:21 aix Krock: ah, haven't come across any of those yet 16:21 nolsen agaran: How do I use the switching station? 16:22 aix maybe i should add mesecons & co to my server 16:22 agaran just connect to its bottom to make your network work 16:22 nolsen Too complex. 16:22 agaran nothing is to be done with it, but every separate net needs it in it 16:22 agaran nolsen: well in technic switching station is piece that actually does all computing of power.. 16:23 nolsen Doesn't work 16:23 nolsen I put a wire near it 16:23 nolsen does nothing 16:23 agaran under 16:24 agaran most of technic stuff connect ONLY under 16:24 aix guys should i do it 16:29 aix oh what the hell let's do it 16:30 nolsen agaran: Tried that 16:30 nolsen It won't even fit the HV cables 16:31 agaran nolsen: it works for me, your server is reachable from public? 16:31 nolsen No, it's reachable from space. 16:32 agaran outern space at least? 16:33 agaran I have something like that fuel fired generator, under it LV cable, next to it, another cable and over it switching station.. next to it, cable and lv furnace 16:33 agaran (optionally iwth battery also connected same way) 16:35 agaran nolsen: but if you like to go to some server where technic is enabled like VE creative, I can show you too.. 16:39 agaran nolsen: got it? 16:40 aix https://sr.ht/ndts.txt how i'm getting this error 16:40 aix now* 16:42 Krock requires mesecons' mvps mod 16:55 nolsen agaran: Suppy: 0, demand 0 16:55 nolsen The solar panels have no network 16:55 agaran nolsen: wire from bottom of solar panel to wire under switching station ? 16:55 nolsen agaran: Doesn't work 16:56 nolsen Technic must be broken. 16:56 nolsen or a shitty mod 16:56 agaran I am using it.. maybe it is not smooth in all places, it works 16:56 agaran you have release, or snapshot? 16:56 nolsen I don't know 16:56 agaran you are on your own server right? 16:57 nolsen Oh, I used the wrong wire 16:57 agaran /giveme technic:lv_generator then place it next to your station with wire under.. 16:57 agaran for lv you use white, for medium you have black, 16:57 nolsen I'm pretty sure I can see the names 16:58 agaran oh, but from distance you better see color of it.. in some tries I had 60 nodes height between lowest and highest point in one power grid.. 16:58 agaran sometimes there were issues.. 17:00 nolsen Supply 11,000 now 17:00 agaran thats quite a lot of panels.. 17:01 agaran 55 for max power for solar panel.. 17:02 nolsen 200 EU 17:02 nolsen per panel 17:03 agaran yup, 17:03 agaran thats why I said a lot.. 17:07 nolsen There's no instructions for the nuclear reactor rod 17:08 agaran oh, I never got to nuclear stuff there yet, not enough uranium found so far.. 17:09 nolsen I can just use the inventory to get more 17:09 agaran then you will be grinding and centrifuging for days until you get enriched.. 17:09 agaran this way yo can get just rector core, and there was some readme in technic that had basic stuff explained 17:09 nolsen I filled it with uranium fuel 17:09 nolsen did nothing 17:09 nolsen Obviously broken 17:10 agaran in mine is manual.md, well, I can't say I haven't tested it yet 17:14 agaran from quick glance in manual you need turn uranium into fuel rods first.. 17:14 agaran and core needs proper cooling and radiaton shield too 17:59 nolsen agaran: The manual is too complex 17:59 nolsen I need a simple version 18:04 nolsen agaran: I set up pipeworks to provide the reactor cooling. 18:04 nolsen Put uranium rods inside 18:04 nolsen the thing is surrounded in water. 18:05 nolsen But the thing is on "Idle" 18:05 agaran you need water nodes I think.. 18:05 agaran not flowing water.. but I may be wrong 18:05 agaran never tried to do it actually 18:05 nolsen Yes, there are water nodes. 18:05 nolsen coming from spigots. 18:09 Void7 quote from the manual: "water blocks may be either source blocks or flowing blocks" 18:10 Void7 layers are: flowing/source water, stainless steel, blast-resistant concrete blocks 18:11 nolsen agaran: What do I need to do now? 18:14 agaran building my reactor, moment 18:15 agaran you put six rods of course? 18:17 nolsen yes. 18:20 agaran mine works.. 18:20 agaran Power station says 100000 supply.. 18:21 nolsen Mine is on diel 18:21 nolsen idel 18:21 nolsen idle 18:21 agaran I build core, around cube of water nodes, around that bigger cube of stainless steel blocks, around that cube of blast proof concrete 18:21 agaran 2 holes, one up, to fill rector core with fuel, second down, for hv cable to station 18:24 nolsen I didn't use any concrete 18:25 agaran stainless steel blocks at least? 18:25 agaran added fourteen hv bateries, and they charge properly so I guess it is working fine.. 18:26 agaran single bat got charged in 10 seconds so.. 18:26 nolsen no, carbon steel 18:26 agaran try stainless then? maybe it is sensitive to kind of enclosure? 18:28 agaran and now I got chernobylite bucket 18:30 nolsen "Invalid search node name" 18:30 nolsen Can't use world edit 18:30 nolsen It says carbon is invalid 18:30 nolsen but it sees it 18:30 agaran technic:stainless_steel_block 18:30 agaran you need this 18:31 nolsen Nuclear reactor core idle 18:32 nolsen I ven tried concrete 18:32 nolsen even* 18:34 agaran and I rebuild my reactor again after blowing it up.. well, for me it works, cube of water, cube of stainless steel, cube of blast proof concrete (helps for explosion of core) 18:38 Fixer "Quake 1 Ported To Run On Vulkan" but why.... 18:41 agaran Fixer: I guess one said 'Because I can' 18:42 nolsen agaran: You use uranium fuel right? 18:42 nolsen 6 of them? 18:42 agaran nolsen: yes 18:43 nolsen !server such survival server 18:43 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 2/15, 1/2 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 2ms 18:49 agaran lol, palm leaves got into building through solid wall.. 18:50 est31 thats one of the problems of the waving leaves 18:50 agaran but it looked funny inside.. 19:03 agaran nolsen: I meant, you don't need regenerate world.. just use inventory to get what you need.. or giveme command.. try, if you like then you redo 19:04 aix what does a digilines memory chip do? 19:07 Hijiri guessing you can send requests to store and get data from the chip 19:08 babylon where would i go to find a small, unmoderated (preferably technic) server? it seems like most of the publicly listed ones have enormous cities built with 20+ players 19:09 agaran babylon: well, there are some servers that aim at creative building but space available there is rather big enough to find own part of field.. 19:23 agaran nolsen: got it? 19:26 * nm0i introduced DPS into toxic rain... 19:28 babylon do you need a specific type of alloy furnace to make stainless steel? chromium+iron ingots in the fuel-fired alloy furnace doesn't seem to smelt at all 19:33 agaran babylon: chromium + carboon steel 19:37 babylon is there a wiki that lists the recipes? cause the one listed on the technic mod page has misleading information (http://technic.kosyak.info/) 19:40 agaran well I looked at that site, then started to read mod source.. 19:47 babylon oh lol, sorry... i found it on github 19:57 Hijiri how common is savannah-swamp biome? 20:00 agaran never encountered, what mod is providing it? 20:13 Hijiri agaran: default 20:20 agaran never saw it, I am jealous.. 20:23 Hijiri I haven't seen it either 20:23 Hijiri apparently it is the only biome that spawns papyrus too 20:32 agaran Hijiri: hmm, then I saw it not knowing, as I use papyrus for some stuff (though sometimes it is loooooooooong walk till I find it) 20:33 Hijiri alright 20:33 agaran I usually try to search edges of water areas.. if I am lucky I find lone 2-3 papyrus plants then cultivate them close to my 'settlement' 20:36 agaran that reminds me about almost empty papyrus stash..:) 20:44 nolsen !server such survival server 20:44 MinetestBot nolsen: Such Survival Server | minetest.nolsen.xyz | Clients: 2/15, 2/3 | Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest | Ping: 49ms 20:44 nolsen 49ms 20:44 nolsen dam 20:45 nolsen damn* 21:44 rubenwardy can anyone recommend a server which has very nice medieval towns and castles? 21:44 Sand_Minetest I don't remember any server like that, I'll help look though 21:44 Sand_Minetest was it on the public list? 21:45 rubenwardy I want a suggestion of one to visit 21:45 rubenwardy It's not one I've lost 21:45 Sand_Minetest oh, sorry 21:45 Sand_Minetest I read "remembered" instead of "recommend" 21:45 Sand_Minetest my mistake 21:45 Fixer Liberty Land has a few iirc 22:35 IhrFussel Players ask me what the command is to reconnect? Not sure if it's a server command or client one 22:35 agaran I think you just need click as usual in client.. or I did not found any other way 22:35 sfan5 there's no command for reconnecting 22:36 IhrFussel sfan5, but i saw some talk about such a "reconnect to server without logout" talk 22:36 IhrFussel command* 22:41 IhrFussel Anyways thanks for the help =)