IRC log for #minetest, 2016-07-24

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00:22	hisforever	Hi everybody I'd like to know if anybody knows od a mod that has a porch light?
00:23	hisforever	od=of
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01:07	Hijiri	does dev wiki membership come with normal wiki membership? Or is there a separate place to apply?
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02:30	everamzah	agaran: Can you get it with this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L2145
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04:10	nm0i	Is there anywhere rss feed to mod releases?
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05:14	* DI3HARD139	doesnt know if this question has been asked a billion times but..
05:15	DI3HARD139	Is it possible to push a live update of the output in the terminal to an external website?
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06:49	agaran	everamzah: Well, my goal was not to cause map loadin/generation but to eventually find way to just fetch data for it from disk without loading all nodes, but I can workaround it other way I guess
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07:25	Hijiri	does using luacontrollers require special permissions in mesecons?
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07:35	Miner_48er	Hijiri no
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08:53	aix	hi
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09:00	Krock	hi
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09:05	aix	anyone fancy helping me build a spawn area?
09:05	aix	or give advice on making it
09:05	Krock	make a train station
09:06	Krock	a big house with officer rooms and a nice lobby
09:07	Krock	and rail connections nearby
09:07	* Krock	hides
09:08	aix	materials-wise
09:09	Krock	stone and wood?
09:10	aix	no -.-
09:11	aix	i'll probably use some moreblocks nodes
09:12	aix	uh this molotov cocktail eats through unbreakable nodes lol
09:14	Krock	dig bedrock with it :)
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09:15	aix	you sure you don't want to help on-site?
09:15	aix	like even some guidance
09:15	aix	hell even just stand there, i'm lonely on the server
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10:23	aix	https://sr.ht/KDFt.png thoughts?
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10:27	Krock	nice. I'd add mese light blocks under the top roof
10:28	Krock	to it looks like a so it looks like a lighthouse :)
10:28	Krock	*so it
10:28	Krock	*to make it look like
10:30	Krock	aix, what's the server addess?
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10:41	agaran	silly question, how to dig elevator?
10:41	agaran	I mean I placed it but now I want to remove it..
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11:26	Krock	agaran, dig it or use worldedit
11:26	agaran	no worldedit available on server, nor I can't dig it.. or don't know how, it only updates target list
11:26	agaran	normally I dig it with technic minning drill
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14:01	juhdanad	Is it possible to send a chat message to only one player in multiplayer?
14:01	everamzah	/msg <name> message
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14:10	everamzah	yea!! https://www.twitch.tv/hal_9
14:15	sfan5	!title
14:15	MinetestBot	sfan5: Twitch
14:16	juhdanad	Thanks, everamzah.
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14:20	Krock	aix, http://list.wikia.com/wiki/Fictional_cities
14:21	Krock	wrong channel but here's ok too xD
14:21	aix	omigod
14:21	aix	City 17
14:21	aix	that's gonna be the name
14:21	aix	Or something like Nova Prospekt
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15:27	nm0i	Tel fir
15:27	nm0i	*fyr
15:28	Krock	Let ryf
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15:51	agaran	nm0i, well, thats place of living of some ancient wizard in Morrowind..
15:52	nm0i	I prefer tel uvrit in that case.
15:52	agaran	well, fungal buildings there are nice
15:55	MinetestBot	[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Update minetest.conf.example and the settings translation file f833159 https://git.io/vKSRd (2016-07-24T17:41:36+02:00)
16:17	everamzah	high level quake live duels, anyone? https://www.twitch.tv/deliberatemurder
16:25	Calinou	>2016 >Quake Live
16:26	everamzah	i noticed you do that a lot
16:26	everamzah	here, let me try
16:26	everamzah	>2016 >minetest
16:26	* everamzah	likes old stuff
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16:26	everamzah	i have to mention: intel sponsoring 20th quakecon, qw 2v2 and qlive tournies.
16:26	sfan5	everamzah: are you using windows 10
16:27	everamzah	$20,000
16:27	everamzah	no
16:27	everamzah	i don't have a copy of windows, unfortunately. i'm using debian.
16:28	Calinou	Quake Live is Windows-only now :P
16:28	Calinou	and is no longer free to play
16:28	everamzah	unless you play it wine
16:28	everamzah	but i don't think anyone would do that
16:28	everamzah	i still watch the games, and just got done compiling new ezquake
16:29	everamzah	looks great, nice models/animations
16:29	everamzah	https://github.com/ezquake
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16:31	everamzah	i do own quakelive on steam, tho. i was in focus beta testing group, and signed on early.
16:31	Calinou	I wish Quake had its assets redistributable, so that we don't have to rely on downloaders :\|
16:32	everamzah	yep, or a worthy open source equivilent, that's not openarea/aftershock
16:32	everamzah	reflex looks good, i was watching hal 9000 play (cpma god), but that costs money, and probably requires windows, too.
16:32	Calinou	problem is, nobody seems to want to play arena FPSes today
16:32	Calinou	your dad doesn't
16:32	Calinou	your sister doesn't
16:32	Calinou	your dog doesn't :)
16:33	everamzah	not everybody wants to play chess, but that doesn't stop you does it?
16:33	Calinou	that kind of refrains me from wanting to develop an arena FPS myself
16:34	everamzah	quake physics or bust
16:34	Calinou	that's the problem
16:34	KaadmY	Calinou: SSG sprites i'm working on: https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/9KB3otSL/ssg_1.gif
16:34	everamzah	challenge*
16:34	Calinou	people request silly glitches like strafe jumping (which makes no sense) :/
16:34	everamzah	it's no problem for me
16:34	everamzah	i can do bridge to rail
16:34	everamzah	that was a bug, it was removed, the community revolted, john put it back
16:35	everamzah	refined it for quake 3. syncerror (quake4 dev) refined it further for quakelive
16:35	Calinou	Xonotic's method (provide a simple way to gain speed) is ok, but needs to be clearly hinted
16:35	everamzah	i wouldn't play an FPS if it didn't feature accelerated movement based, loosely, on mouse gesturing
16:36	everamzah	...show me another game from 1995 that is featuring a $20,000 tournie in 2016. it's a good thing, i think
16:36	Calinou	nobody seems to want to play the open source AFPSes out there :/
16:36	everamzah	with money comes support
16:36	Calinou	future doesn't seem too bright for them (some are still developed but don't really grow)
16:36	Calinou	Warsow died recently, OpenArena is already dead despite claims of the contrary
16:37	everamzah	there is no quake but quake, currently
16:37	everamzah	i feel that could change in the future.
16:37	Calinou	OpenArena is exact same balane as Q3A, you know
16:37	everamzah	is it? are you certain?
16:37	Calinou	+ kill assists, unlagging in 0.8.8, but can be disabled
16:37	Calinou	yes
16:37	everamzah	and what lengths does one go to to get aftershock
16:37	everamzah	and can you relate it to quakelive? is it in sync with ioquake3? i don't know much about the other quake games
16:37	everamzah	i've tried them all, but nothing compares
16:37	everamzah	nothing compares
16:37	Calinou	nope, it's not in sync with ioquake3 :(
16:37	everamzah	to you
16:37	everamzah	so there u go
16:37	Calinou	it runs on a very old version of ioquake3
16:38	Calinou	problem is, I don't feel like forking ioquake3 to make my own game
16:38	everamzah	Timo, who did linux support for quake live, left. he did ioquake3, or is part of it, i believe.
16:38	Calinou	the tooling is quite bad for today
16:38	everamzah	was* a part of it
16:38	Calinou	yes, TTimo still is in #radiant @ quakenet, I see him talking sometimes
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16:39	everamzah	if it weren't for qlive on linux, i never would have gotten back into it. i forsake all video games when i was 16, quitting quake right when Quake II came out
16:39	everamzah	to focus on music. qlive came out, i signed up to get a notice when it was available for linux, and it when it was i tried it out, having missed q3a entirely. i played qlive a lot after that, like 12-16 hours a day
16:39	everamzah	duel, duel, duel, duel, duel, duel, duel
16:39	everamzah	that was in 07, or 09, i forget
16:39	everamzah	it's still up, not bad
16:40	Calinou	it's not a big commercial success though :P
16:40	everamzah	i don't believe it needs to be, nor ever could be.
16:40	everamzah	i had a lot of fun. urban terror was nice, that was my second favorite
16:40	everamzah	i stopped when my 2yr old kept asking to play. i looked in debian repo for kid-safe game and found minetest
16:41	everamzah	and here i am :D
16:41	Calinou	also the lack of realistic (even semi-realistic) open source FPS kind of pisses me off
16:41	everamzah	quake being a _fantasy_ shooter is one main draw, for me
16:41	Calinou	so many games need to be developed...
16:41	everamzah	realistic FPS is, questionable, imho
16:42	Calinou	it's the standard today, like it or not
16:42	Calinou	all other kinds of FPSes seem to have trouble attracting players
16:42	Calinou	I don't want to develop a game that nobody plays
16:43	everamzah	defrag is nice.
16:43	everamzah	or 'race' as it's called in qlive/warsow
16:43	Calinou	having a defrag mode would be really nice, and you can't have that in a realistic FPS
16:43	everamzah	i don
16:43	everamzah	i don't know about realistic fps
16:43	everamzah	i never played anything but doom/quake/minetest
16:43	Calinou	well someone did make a CS:GO mod with rocket jumping and all :P
16:43	everamzah	well, super mario bros. for nes
16:44	Calinou	but it feels out of place obviously
16:44	everamzah	it's CS:GO that is out of place, to me, i am a quaker
16:44	everamzah	'once a quaker, always a quaker, it's in your blood' -BuLaT
16:45	KaadmY	yow
16:45	KaadmY	i get pinged on mentions of "quake"
16:45	KaadmY	'
16:46	KaadmY	must have gotten 15 pings over the last half hour
16:46	agaran	I remember overclocking my 486 to run quake 1..
16:46	everamzah	"I ain't afraid of no Quake'
16:46	everamzah	when i heard that, i laughed, and thought "you should be"
16:46	everamzah	i remember quake when it was called qtest
16:46	KaadmY	3 pings just now :P
16:49	* Calinou	installs nQuake
16:49	KaadmY	i already have nquake :P
16:49	everamzah	ezquake 3 isn't in nquake yet, afaik
16:49	everamzah	but it will be by qcon, as that's what they're using on those pcs
16:50	Calinou	I think it is now
16:50	Calinou	also you can get a test build
16:50	everamzah	ezquake is the source port, nquake is the distribution (bots, skins, maps, etc)
16:51	Calinou	QuakeCon must be fun
16:51	Calinou	at the entrance, there is John Romero saying "Have you bought the game?"
16:51	Calinou	if you say no, he kicks your ass
16:51	everamzah	i've always wanted to go. you can pick me up on your way?
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16:55	Calinou	"Level yourself, not some stupid MMORPG character!"
16:55	Calinou	that nQuake quote is so true
16:55	aix	Hello
16:56	agaran	Calinou: I prefer levels in programing then ;)
16:57	everamzah	i love chess, and poker, but quake is best
16:57	everamzah	i think it's the hardest :D
16:57	Calinou	who needs DOTA 2 when you have 1+0 chess
16:58	everamzah	there's a local cafe that allows chess players to come in each week and take it over. i played there for a decade or so, but gave up on chess
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17:04	Calinou	everamzah: what do you think about Quake 2?
17:05	Calinou	it feels more casual than QuakeWorld for me
17:05	everamzah	no, i never got into it
17:05	everamzah	i liked warsow a lot, tho
17:05	everamzah	and tried q2 often, some players swore by it
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17:05	everamzah	but i just couldn't get into it. especially since you can find a duel on quakelive, but not really any other quake
17:06	Calinou	it's rather easy to find QuakeWorld duels if you wait a bit
17:06	Calinou	it's also rather easy to lose 30-0
17:06	everamzah	that's quake!
17:06	everamzah	:D
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17:09	babylon	This might seem like a silly question, but how do I create steel ingots? I have technic and its 4 dependencies, and every time I smelt iron lumps in a furnace I get wrought iron ingots, whereas the wiki says the result should be a steel ingot instead of a wrought iron ingot
17:09	agaran	babylon: you need grnder, make coal dust, then alloying furnace to make carbon steel ingots
17:09	Void7	steel ingot is renamed wrought iron ingot in technic
17:09	agaran	then chromium dust and again alloying furnace to make stainless steel ingots
17:10	agaran	yup that too
17:10	babylon	oh so i can make anything with wrought iron that the wiki says i can make with steel?
17:11	Calinou	everamzah: you are right, nQuake has ezQuake 2.2, not 3.0
17:11	agaran	babylon: mostly yes
17:12	babylon	thanks
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17:14	agaran	yw
17:14	agaran	babylon: but I recommend to get grinder, you will get more iron out of lump this way
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17:22	Hijiri	agaran: if you didn't already figure it out you need a strong enough pick to break an elevator
17:23	agaran	Hijiri: I did not figure, steel wasn't good enough it seems
17:23	aix	Anyone fancy going mining?
17:24	agaran	went to work on my code instead
17:24	aix	There's an abandoned salt mine not far from here
17:27	agaran	aix, on your server?
17:28	aix	no in real life
17:28	aix	i wonder what the idea behind mese was
17:29	aix	i don't think minetest has salt mines
17:30	aix	but yes
17:30	aix	on a server
17:31	Krock	there would be salt mines.. if there was a salty biome
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17:45	aix	you're a salty biome
17:47	Krock	yep.. going to get some water brb
18:26	nm0i	Don't forget your bucket!
18:28	agaran	bucket is crucial..
18:30	agaran	anyone can tell me if I need legacy_wallmounted on new node types?
18:30	Krock	no you don't need it
18:30	Krock	legacy stuff is only for old nodes
18:31	agaran	super, so like 30 lines less :)
18:31	Krock	\o/
18:31	Krock	empty file!
18:31	Krock	just kidding. I hope there's more code around :P
18:32	agaran	well I had bunch of cable node defs, like minetest.register_node(....), so I made wrapper that sets missing fields (groups etc) so I don't have to specify common values.. and at that I started to clean up fields as well
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19:35	hisforever	need help with a roof I have the screenshot http://imgur.com/a/ZPrtW. How do I connect?
19:38	Krock	hisforever, use the nodes with 1/8 cut out from the circular saw
19:39	Krock	the stair that goes into the two directions
19:39	Krock	btw, there's a time speed setting in the minetest.conf file
19:45	hisforever	Krock is there a tutoral on the circular saw?
19:45	Krock	a tutorial?
19:46	Krock	Moreblock's circular saw doesn't have a tutorial
19:46	hisforever	ok ty
19:46	Krock	np
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20:27	engineer-pearl	Is there a way to make PMs visable to mods?
20:30	engineer-pearl	I'm just getting my own server up and I would like not to have trouble going on that I can't see except on the server itself, where I can't scroll through the logs.
20:36	nm0i	engineer-pearl: they are visible in logs
20:37	nm0i	Ah, wait, your wording took seconds to comprehend.
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20:52	hisforever	How do I stop time?
20:54	engineer-pearl	Put time_speed = 0 in your minetest.conf
20:54	engineer-pearl	"time_speed = 0"
20:54	engineer-pearl	that will prevent the time from changing
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21:23	rubenwardy	time of day, not ingame time
21:23	rubenwardy	I guess that's what you meant though :P
21:27	engineer-pearl	yes. The ingame time is the time of day.
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21:56	nolsen	For some reason, Minetest won't let me fullscreen.
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22:48	nolsen	er nevermind.
22:48	nolsen	Also, 2016-07-24 18:47:09: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
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23:10	nolsen	Hm, channel is dead.
23:10	Void7	not yet
23:11	nolsen	Void7: Nobody has answered my question yet.
23:12	Void7	er. what question?
23:12	nolsen	Also, 2016-07-24 18:47:09: ERROR[CurlFetch]: servers.minetest.net/announce not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 500)
23:12	nolsen	That question ^
23:13	Void7	i'm not really an expert on it
23:13	hisforever	Vold7, look at this screenshot http://imgur.com/a/HxF03 What am I doing wrong?
23:14	Void7	you should use "/time 12000"
23:14	hisforever	I'm about ready to remove minetest over time issues lil
23:15	Void7	AFAIK time isn't a variable
23:15	Void7	wait nvm
23:15	Void7	there's an underscore in the middle
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23:16	hisforever	let me try this again brb
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23:23	hisforever	ok here is what I'm getting wnen I type /set time speed 0 then this comes up Failed use '/set -n <name><value>to creat new setting
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23:25	nolsen	!server such server
23:25	MinetestBot	nolsen: Such Survival Server \| minetest.nolsen.xyz \| Clients: 0/15, 0/0 \| Version: 0.4.14-dev / minetest \| Ping: 1ms
23:25	nolsen	1ms lol
23:26	nolsen	!mod disable guest
23:26	MinetestBot	nolsen: Could not find anything.
23:26	nolsen	!mod guest
23:26	MinetestBot	nolsen: No More Guests! [no_guests] by kaeza - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=8004
23:29	nolsen	!mod password
23:29	MinetestBot	nolsen: Password Chest [password_chest] by ynong123 - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=14818
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23:52	nolsen	What is the best way to optimize minetest server on a single-core?
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