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Pilcrow |
Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear. Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair. Fuzzy Wuzzy wasn't very fuzzy, was 'e? :P |
| 01:44 |
Pilcrow |
aww, I was hoping that little childrens' rhyme would get a funny response from Wuzzy. :P |
| 01:54 |
Pilcrow |
Is anyone here conscious right now, lol? Is there a way to make lua-defined hover-over elements? Similar to hovertext, but not just text, like Wawla from minecraft (http://www.minecraftmods.com/wawla/). |
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init |
amazing |
| 02:00 |
Pilcrow |
what's amazing, init? |
| 02:00 |
init |
I am trying luck |
| 02:01 |
Pilcrow |
init: what do you mean? |
| 02:01 |
init |
I am sampling a .wav into an intermediate list, then processing it and reducing it to a really low quality version of the audio |
| 02:01 |
init |
now I am going to send that low-quality audio to my arduino, and see if I can make it play music :p |
| 02:02 |
Pilcrow |
wow. that *is* a pretty interesting idea... :) |
| 02:04 |
init |
if I can get performant-enough processing, and decent results, I may even do it in realtime :D |
| 02:07 |
* Xenoth |
hands init an old MP3 player and tells him to "Have fun" |
| 02:09 |
Pilcrow |
lol Xenoth |
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paramat |
zat could you put your earth mod up somewhere public so we can work on it? it shouldn't go to waste |
| 02:14 |
blaise |
earth mod? |
| 02:14 |
Xenoth |
While running a gamemode from the Server (but not singleplayer) tab, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/A2sYRUGS . Latest git pull. Kubuntu 14.04.2 LTS. |
| 02:14 |
paramat |
i could even host it on my github account if that's okay |
| 02:16 |
Xenoth |
Whoops, that statement is wrong. While running a map, on a gamemode named "fort", I get that crash. It doesn't happen in Singleplayer, only Server. |
| 02:16 |
paramat |
i was hoping you would compromise on the problems and work on it anyway within the limitations of current Minetest |
| 02:16 |
paramat |
but whatever =) |
| 02:20 |
paramat |
thats a bug with the valleys_mapgen mod, contact the author |
| 02:22 |
Xenoth |
paramat: Thanks - I googled the Lua-specific error, and it turns out that that happens when a seed to math.random is too large. I removed a digit, works fine now |
| 02:22 |
Xenoth |
Doesn't seem to adversely affect the gen, either. |
| 02:22 |
paramat |
good |
| 02:31 |
paramat |
crumbs yes that second argument is too big at 4 billion or so |
| 02:36 |
Pilcrow |
hello paramat. haven't seen you on irc in a while. :) |
| 02:38 |
paramat |
hi im not often in this channel |
| 02:40 |
Pilcrow |
yeah, you're probably on -dev if anything. but I don't go there, so I never see you. :P |
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ajaypay |
? |
| 02:44 |
Pilcrow |
what's up, ajaypay? |
| 02:44 |
init |
how is it going ajaypay |
| 02:44 |
ajaypay |
hey man |
| 02:45 |
ajaypay |
goin well |
| 02:45 |
ajaypay |
are any of u on trepca? |
| 02:46 |
init |
I don't know what that is :( |
| 02:46 |
ajaypay |
server |
| 02:46 |
ajaypay |
on mt |
| 02:47 |
Pilcrow |
nope. I didn't know what it was either. lol |
| 02:47 |
ajaypay |
its a cool server |
| 02:48 |
Pilcrow |
eh, I don't really play on public servers. just local private ones with a few good friends... |
| 02:48 |
init |
I don't really play minetest |
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ajaypay |
k |
| 02:48 |
init |
I am here just because people here is nice |
| 02:48 |
* init |
hugs Pilcrow |
| 02:48 |
ajaypay |
what? |
| 02:48 |
Pilcrow |
lol what's that for, init? :) |
| 02:49 |
init |
being nice |
| 02:49 |
ajaypay |
but mt is awsome |
| 02:49 |
init |
it is |
| 02:49 |
Pilcrow |
^ I agree |
| 02:49 |
init |
I never said it isn't! |
| 02:49 |
init |
wasn't* |
| 02:49 |
ajaypay |
o how do u do that? |
| 02:49 |
Pilcrow |
do what? |
| 02:50 |
ajaypay |
do the 'hugs pillcrow' |
| 02:51 |
ajaypay |
*like this?* |
| 02:51 |
init |
/me |
| 02:52 |
init |
ajaypay: try writing "/me test" |
| 02:52 |
init |
it should show up as something like |
| 02:52 |
* ajaypay |
says hi |
| 02:52 |
* init |
test |
| 02:52 |
init |
:P |
| 02:52 |
* Pilcrow |
sits on Pilcrow's head |
| 02:52 |
init |
that's recursive |
| 02:52 |
init |
I don't know how you would sit on yourself though |
| 02:52 |
* ajaypay |
gets it now |
| 02:52 |
Pilcrow |
I am now donut-shaped. ;P |
| 02:53 |
init |
lol |
| 02:53 |
ajaypay |
lololol |
| 02:53 |
ajaypay |
is that healthy thogh? |
| 02:54 |
Pilcrow |
probably not :P |
| 02:54 |
ajaypay |
:T |
| 02:54 |
ajaypay |
;D |
| 02:55 |
* ajaypay |
falls out his bed wile laughing |
| 02:55 |
ajaypay |
ouch ;B |
| 02:56 |
Pilcrow |
lol |
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* ajaypay |
gets up |
| 02:58 |
Pilcrow |
having fun with that command, ajaypay? :P |
| 02:58 |
* ajaypay |
gets more root beer to drink |
| 02:58 |
ajaypay |
yep |
| 02:59 |
* ajaypay |
runs into a wall sleep walking |
| 03:00 |
zat |
paramat: I have been so busy lately but yes I will soon. Earlier today I promised ElectronLibre that I would wake it available soon. |
| 03:00 |
ajaypay |
okay walks. who runs in thier sleep? |
| 03:01 |
ajaypay |
? |
| 03:01 |
* ajaypay |
dozes off |
| 03:02 |
* ajaypay |
WAKE UP SELF!!! |
| 03:03 |
ajaypay |
okay awake now |
| 03:04 |
paramat |
cool |
| 03:04 |
ajaypay |
yep i think |
| 03:08 |
ajaypay |
so did everybody leav? |
| 03:09 |
ajaypay |
or are they aready gone? |
| 03:09 |
ajaypay |
hey |
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ajaypay |
:,'-\ |
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ajaypay |
yay |
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ajaypay |
bye |
| 03:10 |
algun |
hello. there's a certain server with protection blocks and auto-cleaning spawn. the bug is that you can put tree trunks into protected areas. someone enclosed the spawn. does anyone have any idea how to set it on fire? |
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Pilcrow |
algun: no I don't, sorry. what server is that, by the way? and can you punch the trees, or did they become 'protected' after they were placed? |
| 03:34 |
Wayward_Tab |
Sounds like it could possibly be one of the freeminer servers using minetest protocol |
| 03:35 |
Pilcrow |
Wayward_Tab: are freeminer and minetest still similar enough to connect to each others' servers? |
| 03:36 |
Wayward_Tab |
No, but an option was recently added to compile with minetest compatibility |
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algun |
Pilcrow they became protected |
| 04:56 |
algun |
sorry for the delay |
| 04:56 |
algun |
the server is some 80. ip |
| 04:56 |
algun |
i think it's called a test server or something, has a decent amount of people |
| 04:57 |
algun |
we made a trail of tree trunks outside of spawn and city area, and then lit it on fire |
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algun |
it was a 2+ blocks wide trail on average |
| 04:57 |
algun |
2+ block trail minimally actually |
| 04:57 |
algun |
>=2 |
| 04:58 |
algun |
ok? geez |
| 04:59 |
algun |
Pilcrow: 87.110.8.195(30000) |
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algun |
Pilcrow: i'm off. If you think of anything clever, use /msg MemoServ send algun message |
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CWz |
hello Zeno` |
| 07:11 |
Zeno` |
howdy |
| 07:11 |
Zeno` |
wassup? |
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CWz |
Zeno`: How are you? |
| 07:18 |
Zeno` |
pretty good. Yourself? |
| 07:20 |
CWz |
i am ok |
| 07:26 |
Calinou |
Iceweasel 38 has landed in Stretch… but not backported to Jessie :( |
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Zeno` |
aargh Iceweasel! Sounds like a horrible monster of the forbidden ice lands that stretch across the northern hemisphere |
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Zeno` |
https://github.com: Name or service not known |
| 07:33 |
Zeno` |
this is getting depressing :( |
| 07:38 |
Krock |
Zeno`, why unknwon? |
| 07:38 |
Zeno` |
nfi :( |
| 07:39 |
Zeno` |
I think it's something to do with ipv6 but.. *shrug* |
| 07:40 |
Zeno` |
And I can't work out how to disable ipv6 completely |
| 07:40 |
* Krock |
is happy about the new results sorting algorythm |
| 07:40 |
Krock |
!mod spawn |
| 07:40 |
MinetestBot |
Krock: Multispawn[multispawn] by Pitriss - https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=7639 |
| 07:40 |
Zeno` |
I do lsmod | grep ipv6 and there are still modules loaded that I have blacklisted |
| 07:40 |
Zeno` |
the new results sorting? |
| 07:41 |
Krock |
Zeno`, on my mod search site. Some users tried to pull down the rating of some mods to get others on top but that didn't work before |
| 07:42 |
Zeno` |
oh, cool |
| 07:42 |
Zeno` |
finally github.com resolves |
| 07:43 |
Zeno` |
and now it doesn't again :3 |
| 07:43 |
Calinou |
192.30.252.131 |
| 07:43 |
Calinou |
this is their IP |
| 07:43 |
Calinou |
(will throw a certificate warning) |
| 07:43 |
Zeno` |
I suppose I can add that to hosts |
| 07:43 |
Zeno` |
but it won't fix the core problem |
| 07:43 |
Zeno` |
time to ask in ##fedora I guess |
| 07:44 |
Calinou |
why ##? |
| 07:45 |
Krock |
OldCoder, please write your posts bigger, I can't read them :P |
| 07:48 |
OldCoder |
Krock, I have just had this out with Calinou |
| 07:48 |
OldCoder |
Do not start unless you wish to do so |
| 07:48 |
OldCoder |
Seriously |
| 07:48 |
OldCoder |
If you do wish to do so, PM me |
| 07:48 |
OldCoder |
I will accommodate you |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
You're aware that I'm not especially friendly or nice, right? That I come across this way based on principles? |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
By all means |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
PM me and poke at me |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
Let's talk |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 07:49 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 07:49 |
Krock |
k |
| 07:49 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder's font seems fine to me |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
Font is not the issue |
| 07:50 |
Zeno` |
same as everybody elses font in fact |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
Half the people here are Europe |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
They will understand the WWII point if they think |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
It is all right |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
To question decisions |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
The #2 rule of my business channel is |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
#2 Bash Ideas Not People |
| 07:50 |
Zeno` |
Stupid idea |
| 07:50 |
OldCoder |
Ad Hominem deserves nothing but justice |
| 07:51 |
Zeno` |
lol |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
Which is stupid ? Go on |
| 07:51 |
Zeno` |
(that was a little joke) |
| 07:51 |
* OldCoder |
does not follow but whatver |
| 07:51 |
* OldCoder |
does not follow but whatever * |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
Ideas |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
are there to be smashed |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
I love to smash ideas |
| 07:51 |
Zeno` |
OldCoder, Australian's have a very weird sense of humour (all of us that I associate with do anyway) |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
http://tindeck.com/listen/tsjc |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
I was given that song for doing so |
| 07:51 |
OldCoder |
But there are two types of people |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
Not the old joke |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
about one type separates into type types and one does not |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
I would exterminate |
| 07:52 |
Zeno` |
10 types! |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
the second type that I see |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 07:52 |
Krock |
> the WWII point -> the World War 2 point? |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
Two and two only |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
WWII is WW2 |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
Those who operate |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
based on perceptions |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
cannot reason |
| 07:52 |
OldCoder |
They are to be eaten |
| 07:52 |
* OldCoder |
has no problem with the idea of eating animals |
| 07:52 |
Zeno` |
John Nash has been killed |
| 07:53 |
Krock |
are they at least tasty? |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
I would not know yet |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
I like the idea |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
of finding out |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
Who is John Nash? |
| 07:53 |
Krock |
musician I guess |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
All right |
| 07:53 |
Krock |
died 2 days ago |
| 07:53 |
Zeno` |
no, mathematician |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
Krock If you wish to pursue the discussion, PM me. |
| 07:53 |
OldCoder |
It is advised that you do not do so. |
| 07:54 |
Zeno` |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Forbes_Nash,_Jr. |
| 07:54 |
OldCoder |
|
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| 08:04 |
Zeno` |
CWz_, have you heard from deezl? |
| 08:07 |
OldCoder |
Krock, I have received a forum PM from you. I can't tell if you are foolish or what. |
| 08:07 |
OldCoder |
If you genuinely wish my full attention |
| 08:07 |
Zeno` |
I guess nobody is awake in #fedora or my question is too mundane lol |
| 08:07 |
OldCoder |
PM me here and you shall have it |
| 08:09 |
Krock |
OldCoder, I prefer to take some time to "collect my words". But if you wish to use the PM here, okay. |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
Krock, I cannot read you. I do not know if you are genuinely foolish or what the situation is. |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
The remarks in the forum PM were apparently intended to provoke me. |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
They will not. But you have my attention. |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
PM here if you wish. |
| 08:10 |
Krock |
That's called constucive critism |
| 08:10 |
OldCoder |
It is idiocy |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
As you entirely missed the point. |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
You are a European? |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
Is this so? |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
German, perhaps? |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
Read your own Goddamn history |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
Before you presume to lecture *me* |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
|
| 08:11 |
Krock |
OldCoder, location is on my GitHub and on the forum profile visible |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
And your point is? |
| 08:11 |
OldCoder |
Are you saying that the inquiry is unreasonable? |
| 08:12 |
Zeno` |
Is this really a debate concerning the text size of a post? |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
It is not |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
It is about the Holocaust |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
The burning of children in the flames |
| 08:12 |
Krock |
Zeno`, once upon a time.. yes. |
| 08:12 |
* Zeno` |
doesn't understand the connection, but carry on ;) |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
There is no carry on |
| 08:12 |
OldCoder |
He has been invited to PM and may do so if he wishes |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
You people are young |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
I am old and see my life drawing to a close |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
I will bring meaning to it |
| 08:13 |
* Krock |
puts this discussion into a wheelbarrow and tilts it into a landfill |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
It is inadvisable |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
to cross me into this |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
F*ck you |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
You initiated it |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
You are not privileged |
| 08:13 |
Krock |
and I closed it |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
to suggest |
| 08:13 |
OldCoder |
that to discuss your points was unreasonable |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
You are a Nazi indeed |
| 08:14 |
Zeno` |
I'm not exactly *that* young |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
To me, you are |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
No offense |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
Our lives are so short |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
Mayflies |
| 08:14 |
Zeno` |
Perhaps I am nearing the end of my life also |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
It can happen at 10 or 12 or 20 |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
That is not the point |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
I have known many |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
so many who are dead |
| 08:14 |
OldCoder |
Corpses |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
But somehow |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
We don't pause to think |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
Of how very limited our Time is |
| 08:15 |
Zeno` |
I think about it all the time |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
We think that we think; but it is rare |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
I will not presume to contradict that |
| 08:15 |
OldCoder |
I will show you more respect than others have shown me this night |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
If you wish to discuss what it all means, see me elsewhere as it suits you |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
For my part |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
Those who wish to piss upon the last days of my life |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
Are in for surprises |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
More than a few |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
Understand this now |
| 08:16 |
OldCoder |
:D |
| 08:16 |
Zeno` |
I don't wish to debate anything though |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
What is "debate" ? Most people are animals |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
Beasts of the field |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
Possibly Krock here... it depends on how he intended a forum PM |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
I respect them no more than cattle |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
Less; cattle are nice |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
Burgers or not |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
One does not "debate" |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
a cow |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
If you are feeling mortal |
| 08:17 |
OldCoder |
I am the one to speak to |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
I will tell you of what I encountere |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
I will tell you of what I encountered * |
| 08:18 |
Zeno` |
Ok, I don't wish to argue about anything at all. Certainly not about the cruelty and barbarity of civilisation (not belittling it, just acknowledging it) |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
When I crossed over to the other side |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
There is no "civilisation" Zeno` |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
The notion is laughable |
| 08:18 |
OldCoder |
One is here to conquer; to do as the animals do, those in packs |
| 08:19 |
Zeno` |
An oxymoron. The most peaceful people I have thus far met in my life are referred to as savages by many |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
To hurt, to kill; to do as one must |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
Indeed |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
This is no oxymoron |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
I'd go back and kill many |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
If I could |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
Hm |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
Subject for another venue |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
I know what reality is now |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
I have little tolerance for bullsh*t |
| 08:19 |
OldCoder |
This is reasonable |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
If you'd like to discuss what you have seen |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
The parts around the corners |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
See me |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
Understand my own dilemma |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
I am a literal autistic corner |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
I am a literal autistic coder * |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
But twice now |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
My face has been brushed by the wings of the One Who Does Not Speak |
| 08:20 |
OldCoder |
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| 08:21 |
hmmmm |
what the.... |
| 08:21 |
OldCoder |
He is actually there. It is sort of difficult to process. |
| 08:21 |
OldCoder |
Hm? Late night stuff hmmmm |
| 08:21 |
OldCoder |
Though it is your morning |
| 08:21 |
OldCoder |
I did meet the Angel of Death, though |
| 08:21 |
OldCoder |
He doesn't say much |
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OldCoder |
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| 08:22 |
OldCoder |
Not a chatty fellow at all :-) |
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CWz |
kilbith seems to have removed all is repos |
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mccomase |
OldCoder i know how one gets around on that server now...you type /spawn 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.......each of those numbers is a different spawn location |
| 09:04 |
OldCoder |
How many are there? |
| 09:04 |
OldCoder |
CWz, this is why mirrors are best |
| 09:05 |
OldCoder |
I spoke of this in #minetest-dev the other night |
| 09:05 |
OldCoder |
Several seemed to agree |
| 09:05 |
OldCoder |
mccomase, what is your feeling about the state of the world? Does losing tech seem to have damaged it much? |
| 09:06 |
mccomase |
I dont think it has damaged it very much...it looks and plays great |
| 09:06 |
OldCoder |
This is good to hear. Do you have an idea of the total number of spawns? |
| 09:06 |
OldCoder |
And did you notice travelnet booths? |
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mccomase |
7 spawns |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
To 7 major cities or areas? |
| 09:07 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:07 |
OldCoder |
Do they have travelnets to other areas or noticed that yet? |
| 09:08 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:08 |
OldCoder |
So there is more to see... |
| 09:08 |
mccomase |
ive been to airports |
| 09:08 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:08 |
OldCoder |
In game? |
| 09:08 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:08 |
OldCoder |
I will need to come in and look around |
| 09:08 |
mccomase |
ok |
| 09:08 |
OldCoder |
You wanted to build... |
| 09:09 |
mccomase |
yeah |
| 09:09 |
OldCoder |
Would you like to try |
| 09:09 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:09 |
OldCoder |
Twin Towers in New York City with Creative? |
| 09:09 |
OldCoder |
It is not a job for kids |
| 09:09 |
OldCoder |
And you |
| 09:09 |
OldCoder |
are the only adult who has offered |
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OldCoder |
Creative and WorldEdit |
| 09:09 |
OldCoder |
plus other privs of course |
| 09:10 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:10 |
OldCoder |
It is middle of the night where I am and still must do IRL work... |
| 09:10 |
OldCoder |
See me soon during U.S. day for access |
| 09:10 |
OldCoder |
It is an interesting challenge |
| 09:10 |
OldCoder |
I think the original author used templates or software |
| 09:10 |
OldCoder |
The existing city is pretty complex |
| 09:10 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:11 |
OldCoder |
But apparently Twin Towers are missing |
| 09:11 |
OldCoder |
Perhaps we can put them back if you agree |
| 09:11 |
mccomase |
yes |
| 09:11 |
OldCoder |
See me during U.S. day and we may talk further about Landrush. If you want something that no kid is going to do, New York City will be it. |
| 09:11 |
OldCoder |
You get a copy of the map of course |
| 09:12 |
OldCoder |
Nothing you work on is to be lost |
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mccomase |
ok see you then |
| 09:12 |
OldCoder |
I need to do some SQL work and sleep |
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OldCoder |
ttys o/ |
| 09:12 |
CWz |
anyway i have mirrored the money mod since there was no otehr fork on github https://github.com/ChaosWormz/minetest-money |
| 09:13 |
OldCoder |
Hm |
| 09:13 |
OldCoder |
What other mods did he have |
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OldCoder |
And what was the issue that disturbed him? |
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CWz |
OldCoder: i have no idea |
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OldCoder |
Mod list? Maybe I have some |
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OldCoder |
xyz will have old copies |
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OldCoder |
CWz, realclocks still exists |
| 09:28 |
CWz |
realclocks? |
| 09:28 |
OldCoder |
https://github.com/HybridDog/realclocks |
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OldCoder |
He started it |
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OldCoder |
HybridDog has improved it |
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OldCoder |
looks like money was most important mod |
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* CWz |
feels like hero |
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OldCoder |
You are |
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OldCoder |
It is important to save things |
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Telesight |
Jordach there is a typo in rule 2B |
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Jordach |
WAT |
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Telesight |
Jordach a typ fault, nothing serious ... |
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technomancy |
nice; getting a segfault calling meta:from_table({hello = "world"}) |
| 12:09 |
technomancy |
in a node's after_place function |
| 12:11 |
Krock |
meta:from_table ?? |
| 12:11 |
technomancy |
yeah... it's not really documented except for here, so maybe I'm using it wrong? |
| 12:11 |
technomancy |
http://dev.minetest.net/NodeMetaRef:from_table |
| 12:12 |
technomancy |
http://p.hagelb.org/server.lua.html anything jump out as particularly stupid? |
| 12:12 |
Krock |
look at the example, from_table is used for the complete inventory |
| 12:14 |
Krock |
what exactly is your target? adding a value? an inventory? |
| 12:16 |
technomancy |
I just want to do generic k/v storage |
| 12:16 |
technomancy |
so the problem is the table I pass in has to have a specific structure that matches the example? |
| 12:17 |
Krock |
meta:set_string("key", minetest.serialize({ hello = "world" })) |
| 12:17 |
technomancy |
oh yeah, I see in the email now |
| 12:17 |
Krock |
local my_table = minetest.deserialize(meta:get_string("key")); |
| 12:17 |
technomancy |
I think metadata might be the wrong tool for this then |
| 12:18 |
technomancy |
the tables can get on the large side, and they don't need to be sent to the clients |
| 12:18 |
technomancy |
I just want to have them persist between server restarts, but maybe I need to handle that myself |
| 12:18 |
Krock |
yes, use text files or somewhat else if possible |
| 12:19 |
Krock |
data[node_pos] = {} -> serialize data and save that to a file, then load it on the next startup |
| 12:20 |
technomancy |
yeah, looks like minetest.get_worldpath would make that easy. |
| 12:20 |
technomancy |
cool; thanks |
| 12:20 |
Krock |
np |
| 12:20 |
technomancy |
then I just need to register a shutdown hook so the writes get flushed to disk |
| 12:21 |
Krock |
protip: save it in intervals, just for the case when the server shuts down unexpected |
| 12:21 |
technomancy |
yeah... that happens fairly frequently with my level of lua skill =) |
| 12:22 |
Krock |
every fail makes you smarter, so don't worry - be happy! |
| 12:25 |
technomancy |
heh |
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technomancy |
is there a built-in function for converting a node pos into a value that can be used as a table key? |
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Tekken |
magical-nodepos-to-tkey-converter |
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technomancy |
well I'm using local key_for = function(p) return "p" .. p.x .. "-" .. p.y .. "-" .. p.z end |
| 12:39 |
technomancy |
but I'm sure I can't be the first person to need that function |
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technomancy |
huh dang; the digiterm author looks to have switched to freeminer |
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technomancy |
I guess I won't be sending a pull request |
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technomancy |
zero stars and zero forks ಥ_ಥ |
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CaveJohnson |
"Unlike Minetest it aims to make the game fun while trading off some bits of perfectionism." |
| 13:40 |
CaveJohnson |
eh |
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technomancy |
yeah, meh |
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technomancy |
I don't want a fun game, I want an engine to use to build my own cool stuff |
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technomancy |
less shitty name tho |
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jojoa1997 |
CaveJohnson what game? |
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CaveJohnson |
jojoa1997: freeminer |
| 14:02 |
CaveJohnson |
not a game :P |
| 14:02 |
CaveJohnson |
the engine |
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jojoa1997 |
ah |
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technomancy |
aw crap... can't coroutine.yield() in my mod or it brings down the whole server |
| 14:04 |
technomancy |
I guess that means you can't do any kinds of queues? |
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CaveJohnson |
segfault? |
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technomancy |
no just /home/phil/src/minetest/src/server.cpp:494: void Server::step(float): A fatal error occurred: ...inetest/bin/../games/calandria/mods/calandria/server.lua:24: attempt to yield across C-call boundary |
| 14:07 |
ajaypay |
? |
| 14:07 |
ajaypay |
oh |
| 14:07 |
CaveJohnson |
weird |
| 14:08 |
ajaypay |
yeah......... |
| 14:08 |
technomancy |
actually yeah... I know dronetest has used coroutines successfully |
| 14:09 |
* ajaypay |
is a slow typer |
| 14:09 |
ajaypay |
yes i am |
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ajaypay |
yo tab |
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ajaypay |
i will be playing mt on trepca |
| 14:11 |
ajaypay |
today |
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ajaypay |
um hello? |
| 14:12 |
ajaypay |
? |
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ajaypay |
does anyone know how to make infanite water and lava source? |
| 14:15 |
ajaypay |
is it possible |
| 14:15 |
ajaypay |
? |
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ADFENO |
Yes.... Kind of... |
| 14:16 |
ajaypay |
how????? |
| 14:17 |
ADFENO |
Two ways: 1. Through [worldedit]'s //set default:water_source... |
| 14:18 |
ajaypay |
i mean to make one |
| 14:18 |
ADFENO |
2. Use a water bucket diagonally to a lone water source, in the same height. |
| 14:18 |
ajaypay |
ok |
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ajaypay |
so thats how u do it |
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Telesight |
Hello I get a serialization error in version 0.4.12 |
| 14:19 |
ADFENO |
Problem is: It's not really "infinite" as any player can dig it with a bucket too, so ending the flowing water. |
| 14:19 |
ajaypay |
k makes ¢ents |
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Telesight |
The server is probably running a different version of Minetest |
| 14:20 |
ADFENO |
Neighboring water sources won't be affected by the player's use of the bucket, that is, they will flow and join to form other water source. |
| 14:20 |
Telesight |
That is not the case; mande with 0.4.12 and run with 0.4.12 |
| 14:20 |
Telesight |
made |
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ajaypay |
oh so it wont return after digging? |
| 14:25 |
ajaypay |
? |
| 14:26 |
ajaypay |
? |
| 14:26 |
ajaypay |
hello? |
| 14:27 |
ajaypay |
how do i make teleporters work |
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ajaypay |
on trepca |
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ajaypay |
? |
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Krock |
..teleporters?? |
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ajaypay |
yes |
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ajaypay |
teleporters |
| 14:37 |
ajaypay |
anyone? |
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ajaypay |
? |
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Amaz |
ajaypay, please read the irc rules here: http://www.minetest.net/irc |
| 14:39 |
Amaz |
Specifically the "Be patient when you ask something, people might not be around" one/ |
| 14:40 |
ajaypay |
k |
| 14:40 |
ajaypay |
i am about to go on trepca |
| 14:42 |
ajaypay |
i will be patents |
| 14:42 |
ajaypay |
patient |
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ajaypay |
thanx amaz |
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ADFENO |
Oh my... Sorry for leaving all of a sudden... |
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ADFENO |
ajaypay: The water source DOES return, thanks to the neighboring water sources which converge in the same node. |
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Calinou |
https://lut.im/So6tWfbU/Av07JqC0 |
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Telesight |
Hello I get a serialization error in version 0.4.12 |
| 15:17 |
Telesight |
The server is probably running a different version of Minetest |
| 15:17 |
Telesight |
That is not the case; made with 0.4.12 and run with 0.4.12 |
| 15:17 |
Krock |
did you enable the strict protocol version checking? |
| 15:18 |
Telesight |
I do not think so, where is that setting? |
| 15:18 |
Krock |
minetest.conf |
| 15:18 |
Krock |
on the server |
| 15:19 |
Telesight |
Yes , moment have to check this ... |
| 15:19 |
Krock |
perhaps you're using a new 0.4.12-dev version as client or even 0.5.0 |
| 15:19 |
technomancy |
digiterm has this crazy thing where you press escape and it re-opens the form immediately |
| 15:19 |
CWz |
0.5.0 hasn't been touched in quite a while |
| 15:19 |
technomancy |
you have to hold down esc for several seconds to get it to actually close |
| 15:19 |
technomancy |
digging through the code to try and spot the bug, but does that sound familiar to anyone? |
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Telesight |
NO I use stable |
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* VanessaE |
peeks in |
| 15:21 |
Krock |
technomancy, why are you using spaces to intend? |
| 15:21 |
Krock |
ouch, VanessaE, why? |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 15:21 |
VanessaE |
hi :) |
| 15:21 |
Krock |
hi |
| 15:22 |
Krock |
technomancy, you know, the space from a new line to the first character of the next line.. |
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Telesight |
I do not see a strict protocol setting in conf |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
Telesight, are you using 0.4.12 stable? |
| 15:23 |
Telesight |
Yes |
| 15:23 |
Krock |
I mean, for server and client |
| 15:23 |
Telesight |
Yes both |
| 15:24 |
Krock |
that's strange... |
| 15:24 |
technomancy |
Krock: because I hate tabs |
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Krock |
technomancy, did they do something evil? |
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AndroidKris |
What's the difference in a solar panel and a solar array in the technic mod? |
| 15:25 |
technomancy |
they only exist in order to support allowing different people to render code differently, which is pointless |
| 15:26 |
Telesight |
I get; ServerEnvironment::loadMeta(): EnvArgsEnd not found! |
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technomancy |
it's my code, if you want to read it, you can read it the way I intended it to be read |
| 15:27 |
technomancy |
anyway, didn't come here to start a flame war |
| 15:27 |
technomancy |
(but emacs rules) |
| 15:27 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: that's easy to fix |
| 15:27 |
Krock |
kill it with fire x.x |
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Telesight |
Vanessa: Well I am excited ... |
| 15:28 |
Telesight |
to hear ... |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: find the env_meta.txt for the world in question |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
replace its contents (if any) with: |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
game_time = 65987424 |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
time_of_day = 8000 |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
EnvArgsEnd |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: ;) |
| 15:28 |
VanessaE |
hi YvesLevier |
| 15:29 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: im with Calinou - brb sister |
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VanessaE |
it doesn't really matter what values you plug in here as long as the file is formatted correctly. |
| 15:30 |
Jordach |
wat? |
| 15:30 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: huh? |
| 15:31 |
Krock |
!c 65987424 / 3600 / 24 |
| 15:31 |
MinetestBot |
763.7433333333333 |
| 15:31 |
Krock |
VanessaE, that are almost 3 years.. |
| 15:31 |
VanessaE |
Krock: that's probably milliseconds. |
| 15:31 |
AndroidKris |
Correction on my last (and sorry for disconnecting) The Technic mod solar panels. What's the difference between the "Arrayed Solar LV generator" and the "Small Solar LV generator"? |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Im still stuck. Unable to restart my server on my new disk. |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: it starts and then crashes, yes? |
| 15:32 |
VanessaE |
as with last night |
| 15:32 |
YvesLevier |
Yes |
| 15:32 |
Krock |
Ah yes, miliseconds makes sense |
| 15:32 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: i tried to install from repository |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: do not use the one in the official repository, it's outdated. |
| 15:33 |
YvesLevier |
... |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
try doing: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 15:33 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: on it |
| 15:33 |
VanessaE |
that'll get today's build and it'll also update your other libraries as well |
| 15:34 |
Telesight |
Vanessa, the server starts now: that is great. But one ends somewhere in "nothing" ... |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: just /teleport foo,bar,baz |
| 15:34 |
VanessaE |
where foo/bar/baz are coords for someplace you're familiar with |
| 15:34 |
AndroidKris |
Or shorten the command by: sudo apt-get update && upgrade |
| 15:35 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Then i put back my original /home/.minetest and /home/Yves/Desktop/Minetest |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
AndroidKris: no. |
| 15:35 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: then i update? |
| 15:35 |
Calinou |
AndroidKris, just tried it, it doesn't work ;) |
| 15:35 |
Calinou |
you get "unknown command: upgrade" |
| 15:35 |
AndroidKris |
Ah, was wondering if someone had noticed me.lol |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: yeah, but remember that /home/Yves/Desktop/Minetest is an old build that you don't want to use yet. |
| 15:35 |
VanessaE |
Calinou: see /msg |
| 15:35 |
Calinou |
I saw it |
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YvesLevier |
kk |
| 15:36 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
| 15:39 |
Telesight |
Vanessa something like /teleport 100,100,100 ? |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: yeah |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
most people start close to 0,0,0 so you could try there |
| 15:39 |
VanessaE |
also, turn on fly and noclip |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
as you might end up teleporting into the sky, or inside the ground |
| 15:40 |
VanessaE |
(and if you do the latter, you'll end up only seeing blacvk) |
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VanessaE |
black* |
| 15:41 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: done |
| 15:41 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: ok, launch the server again |
| 15:42 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: minetestserver --worldname StCamille |
| 15:42 |
YvesLevier |
? |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
btw, anyone else know why he's only getting `minetest` (and hence needs to use --server) and not the standalone `minetestserver` with the PPA builds? |
| 15:42 |
VanessaE |
minetest --server --worldname StCamille |
| 15:42 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
| 15:43 |
YvesLevier |
server started few errors no warning |
| 15:43 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: ^ |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
er, looks like it never started. |
| 15:44 |
YvesLevier |
we both look more fresh than this night VanE ;) |
| 15:44 |
VanessaE |
pastebin the errors |
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YvesLevier |
ok |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: if you have to, sudo apt-get remove minetest and then go search through your system for traces of Minetest ( find / |grep -i minetest ) and delete anything you come across, and then sudo apt-get install minetest |
| 15:45 |
VanessaE |
(anything other than the stuff in your ~home of course) |
| 15:46 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: dont worry - i did put all my old stuff on an NTFS partition cause of ownership |
| 15:46 |
Telesight |
Vanessa I stay on 0,0,0 teleport to 100,100,100 and nothing happens |
| 15:47 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: that's odd. /teleport <foo> ought to put you somewhere sane |
| 15:47 |
YvesLevier |
i did made a teleporter to 0,0,0 (had to dig) |
| 15:47 |
YvesLevier |
brb i try VanE supress all |
| 15:47 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: ok. but remember you'll want to run your worlds from a native filesystem, not NTFS |
| 15:48 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Of course |
| 15:48 |
YvesLevier |
NTFS only to keep a copy |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
right |
| 15:48 |
YvesLevier |
no other reason to keep that ;) |
| 15:48 |
VanessaE |
not that ownership matters in a minetest tree, as long as you have write access. |
| 15:49 |
Telesight |
Vanessa the command /teleport gives no execution |
| 15:49 |
YvesLevier |
didnt take chances |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: next thing you need to do by the way is make sure your minetest_game is also up-to-date. |
| 15:49 |
Telesight |
issued command ... |
| 15:49 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: odd. |
| 15:49 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: will remember |
| 15:50 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: there is a security rewrite that went in, mods run inside a sandbox now -- it's possible you're running something that violates the sandbox, but which the engine isn't reporting properly when it crashes. |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Thats what Warnings (i finaly found) are telling |
| 15:51 |
Telesight |
Vanessa I am locked at 0,0,0 |
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YvesLevier |
numerous warnings btw |
| 15:51 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: sounds like your server crashed again |
| 15:53 |
Telesight |
hmmm |
| 15:53 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: i delete all them individualy? |
| 15:54 |
YvesLevier |
lol too many copies |
| 15:54 |
YvesLevier |
brb |
| 15:54 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: as needed yeah - as long as what you're deleting is minetest-related. you can sudo rm -rf /some/minetest/dir if you need to |
| 15:54 |
YvesLevier |
thx |
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VanessaE |
just be careful with what you delete |
| 15:55 |
Telesight |
Error[Serverthread] : Got packet command .... |
| 15:55 |
Telesight |
50 for peer id 2 but client is nt active yet |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
yep |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
that's a disconnect |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
just close your client and try again |
| 15:56 |
VanessaE |
I've had the same thing happen on a couple of my servers due to player object being "deleted" with entities near it |
| 16:04 |
Telesight |
Vanessa As single player in can loggin and move ... |
| 16:04 |
Telesight |
I |
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est31 |
VanessaE, thanks for reminding that I wanted to crunch that bug one day... |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
est31: PLEASE DO! |
| 16:05 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: im about to clone my original disk. But for now im still on what you told me VanW |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
that bug has all but killed my Creative server. |
| 16:05 |
YvesLevier |
*VanessaE |
| 16:05 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: wait what? |
| 16:06 |
YvesLevier |
im have 2 disks - 1 is about to die and the other is new and fresh |
| 16:06 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: yes, and you already installed your OS and minetest on the new disk I thought? |
| 16:06 |
YvesLevier |
tempted to use Gparted and clone |
| 16:07 |
YvesLevier |
i did but i dont mind to clone my old disk... well... even im never sure of that |
| 16:07 |
YvesLevier |
both 1Tb |
| 16:07 |
VanessaE |
well you could clone from failing disk --> new disk I guess |
| 16:08 |
YvesLevier |
My clients wont have problems even they are newer release then my server. Right? |
| 16:08 |
YvesLevier |
*than |
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YvesLevier |
btw Heya est |
| 16:09 |
VanessaE |
they should be fine |
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YvesLevier |
im out for a while then. Cloning! |
| 16:10 |
est31 |
gparted is a bit unsafe |
| 16:10 |
est31 |
best is to use ddrescue I think |
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YvesLevier |
listening est |
| 16:10 |
YvesLevier |
ddrescrue then |
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YvesLevier |
on it |
| 16:10 |
est31 |
ddrescue has multiple features |
| 16:10 |
est31 |
e.g. you can specify a logfile |
| 16:11 |
est31 |
then you can stop copying mid-process |
| 16:11 |
est31 |
also it works really well with disk erros |
| 16:11 |
est31 |
errors* |
| 16:11 |
est31 |
what gparted does is simple dd I think |
| 16:11 |
est31 |
lemme see |
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YvesLevier |
i find it in depository? |
| 16:12 |
est31 |
apt-get install gddrescue |
| 16:12 |
YvesLevier |
thx |
| 16:12 |
YvesLevier |
<--- didnt tell yet but : im about to get crazy |
| 16:12 |
YvesLevier |
thx friends |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
oh bou |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
oh boy |
| 16:12 |
VanessaE |
I hope you keep backups :) |
| 16:13 |
YvesLevier |
installed nothing on my new disk i want to preserve |
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YvesLevier |
est31: im safe? |
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YvesLevier |
VanessaE: backups of my mental integrity? What command for that plz |
| 16:15 |
YvesLevier |
:P |
| 16:15 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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YvesLevier |
est31: installed. Now plz? |
| 16:16 |
YvesLevier |
anyway i come back with my old disk |
| 16:16 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: wait |
| 16:17 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Waiting |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
you have to boot from a disk or partition that is not involved in the copy |
| 16:17 |
est31 |
YvesLevier, you are sure both disks are unmounted? |
| 16:17 |
VanessaE |
i.e. boot from a live USB image or so |
| 16:17 |
est31 |
yup |
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YvesLevier |
kk |
| 16:17 |
YvesLevier |
then i note down your "apt-get install gddrescue" i will make from my key |
| 16:18 |
YvesLevier |
Then will try open Thunderdird |
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YvesLevier |
Im back on my old disk (note than by bad sectors were moved to something that looks as an USB hided device. |
| 16:31 |
YvesLevier |
will your command (i forgot to note down) will work? |
| 16:31 |
YvesLevier |
Est ^ |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
[05-25 12:19] <est31> apt-get install gddrescue \ |
| 16:31 |
VanessaE |
-\ |
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YvesLevier |
Thx VanE |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
you can't boot from that disk though |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
you HAVE to boot from something that is not involved in the copy |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
like a USB live image |
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YvesLevier |
yes im on it |
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YvesLevier |
running to buy an USB device atm |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
pl |
| 16:32 |
VanessaE |
ok |
| 16:34 |
VanessaE |
just a cheap little 4-8 GB thumb drive is all you need, YvesLevier |
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VanessaE |
install an *ubuntu live image to it, as if you were gonna use the thumb drive to install a system (but you won't, you'll just boot from it to run those copy commands) |
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YvesLevier |
i begin by trying my old disk on minetest |
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YvesLevier |
My original disk works perfect |
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YvesLevier |
installing U14.04 on my key |
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Telesight |
Vanessa I am afraid i have a memory fault with a laptop on which the minetest server was build ... |
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VanessaE |
Telesight: ouch |
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Telesight |
Yes bye laptop |
| 17:08 |
VanessaE |
well one would hope you'll try to fix it first :) |
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VanessaE |
memory on some laptops is replaceable/upgradeable |
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Telesight |
It hangs on the Ubuntu memory check |
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Telesight |
not good |
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VanessaE |
time to get a screwdriver I guess :P |
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est31 |
very very interesting |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
? |
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Telesight |
I think there was a crash that destroyed the world ... |
| 17:11 |
est31 |
the moment I start minetest, my desktop stops working |
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Telesight |
est13 Memory test I advice ...;-) |
| 17:11 |
VanessaE |
eep |
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est31 |
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/plasma-desktop/+bug/1455278 |
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est31 |
now I know what causes that bug :) |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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ElectronLibre |
zat, any news about your subgame? |
| 18:17 |
ElectronLibre |
By the way I just found out that loggingbot_ can record parts, but not quits.. |
| 18:17 |
zat |
ElectronLibre: I will make it available in my own git repo today I expect but I am being annoyed by a client of a client |
| 18:18 |
zat |
guess what, a health insurance company asked us to install a "social platform" or their employees. |
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zat |
now their manager of that project, a really annoying woman, strikes again with her enlightening ideas. |
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zat |
she wants all users be friends of all users. |
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zat |
for* their employees (I meant) |
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ElectronLibre |
People with differents ideas. Sometimes some forget that other people have to find out how to code and deploy their silly or complex ideas. |
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zat |
It just took an insert with a select and a join, pretty simple, but the idea is plain silly |
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zat |
it simply defeats the purpose of having a friends list |
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ElectronLibre |
If everyone is friend with everyone, then, yes, they are not really friends. |
| 18:21 |
zat |
probably in her fantasy word whose server is running in her mind, all are good friends |
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zat |
and she is not annoying also |
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ElectronLibre |
Maybe, but this is not the reality. |
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zat |
:P |
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Kenney |
Hai guys |
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blaise |
!up midnightsystems.net |
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MinetestBot |
midnightsystems.net:30000 seems to be down |
| 18:37 |
blaise |
Gah |
| 18:37 |
blaise |
oh well |
| 18:37 |
blaise |
lmao |
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blaise |
I'm going to have to get a nice shell to host it I guess |
| 18:37 |
blaise |
that's cool though |
| 18:37 |
blaise |
XD |
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Krock |
If you're ever bored, try to understand this one: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d7/8-cell.gif |
| 18:54 |
Kenney |
my brain just melted |
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Krock |
gawd no, why didn't I post it earlier? |
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ElectronLibre |
Good illusion. |
| 18:55 |
Kenney |
ugh, trying to make leaves on trees look good in the distance |
| 18:55 |
Krock |
that's a 4D .. thing displayed with a 3D rotation on a 2D screen |
| 18:56 |
Kenney |
http://puu.sh/i0df5/667bc9921f.jpg |
| 18:56 |
Krock |
Kenney, turn on antialiasing |
| 18:56 |
Kenney |
due to some kind of issue they get white in the distance, probably related to anti alias |
| 18:56 |
ElectronLibre |
I personally also like this one : https://lut.im/TZd5Hz2B/pHmYY745 |
| 18:56 |
Kenney |
well, it's all up in that screenshot |
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Amaz |
That gave me a headache Krock! Bad Krock! |
| 18:56 |
Krock |
Amaz, np. |
| 18:57 |
Krock |
ElectronLibre, I've seen this about a month ago... great stuff! Infinite coffee! |
| 18:57 |
Krock |
..and cookies |
| 18:57 |
ElectronLibre |
Infinite cookies \o/ |
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Amaz |
But Krock, they become sooooo small as you go further and further down.... |
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Kenney |
Compared to Minecraft; http://puu.sh/i0dnM/9577bc3540.jpg |
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Krock |
Amaz, imagine the real size is at 200 loops. Omg that cookie mass |
| 18:58 |
Krock |
Kenney, can shaders or any other filters help to solve this visual problem? |
| 18:59 |
Amaz |
:D |
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Kenney |
I have no clue, not sure what the issue is called or what makes it happen |
| 18:59 |
Kenney |
Low quality transparency? low anti-alias in distance? ...no idea |
| 19:00 |
Kenney |
been bugging me since I started using Minetest |
| 19:00 |
Kenney |
something like high anti-alias in the distance could fix it, OR, allow for alternative distance textures which aren't transparent |
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sfan5 |
<Kenney> due to some kind of issue they get white in the distance, probably related to anti alias |
| 19:02 |
sfan5 |
mip mapping possibly |
| 19:02 |
Kenney |
That's turned on in my configuration though |
| 19:02 |
Amaz |
Something around this area of minetest.conf might fix it: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/minetest.conf.example#L209-L224 |
| 19:03 |
Kenney |
alright, gonna tinker - gimme a sec |
| 19:03 |
Kenney |
oh wow |
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Kenney |
texture_clean_transparent = true |
| 19:03 |
Kenney |
that absolutely did the trick |
| 19:04 |
Kenney |
before/after: http://puu.sh/i0dS8/31bfe7972c.jpg |
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Amaz |
That looks a lot better! |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
nice |
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sfan5 |
imo the opaque water looks weird |
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Calinou |
make sure your transparent pixels are green-ish |
| 19:05 |
sfan5 |
but that's personal preference |
| 19:05 |
Calinou |
and not black or white |
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Kenney |
Ah well there aren't any semi-transparent pixels in there |
| 19:05 |
Kenney |
I guess Photoshop optimizes the textures in a rather bad way |
| 19:06 |
Kenney |
also yes, opaque water is weird |
| 19:06 |
Kenney |
makes it look like a SNES game of sorts |
| 19:06 |
Calinou |
looks like Quake 1 |
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sfan5 |
photoshop probably does what any sane application does: set the color in completly transparent pixels to black |
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Calinou |
but in that game, pros whine when you make water transparent :) |
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Kenney |
Had no idea transparent pixels had a color in PNG...what I lousy designer I am |
| 19:07 |
Calinou |
s/designer/Photoshop user :P |
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ElectronLibre |
Ok, I need opinions from experimented MT modders : would it be useful to have multiple command names for one function or just a plain waste of code and clarity in the commandlist. (I'm trying to proving to someone it's a bad idea to have multiple command names for one action). |
| 19:08 |
Kenney |
actually draw all of voxus' textures in MS Paint |
| 19:08 |
Kenney |
the Win XP version, the one after that sucks |
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sfan5 |
you might enjoy paint.net |
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sfan5 |
890 kbps connection speed to youtube again, great! (not.) |
| 19:09 |
Kenney |
nah, tried it, after 10 years of pixelart in MS Paint you can't really switch to anything else |
| 19:09 |
Kenney |
for better or for worse |
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Calinou |
multiple commands for one action = leads to inconsistency |
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Kenney |
^ |
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ElectronLibre |
Thank you Calinou. |
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Sokomine |
hm. it's a pity there's no good upload method right now for pictures. hm. well...forum attachment...that might do |
| 19:17 |
Kenney |
imgur.com is brilliant, otherwise puu.sh for quick shares |
| 19:17 |
Calinou |
use lut.im |
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Kenney |
Quick question; in the settings you can enable 'node highlighting' but it always seems to make the halo.png picture white transparent |
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Kenney |
Any way to disable that, and just show the picture without any transparency? |
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Sokomine |
does any of these work without javascript? that's usually my problem |
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Kenney |
Alright, up next; slightly different tinted trees. http://puu.sh/i0gmb/52e710f291.jpg |
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Sokomine |
kenney: hm. they look very similar to the grass. but it's hard to tell; it may look totally different if you move around. anyway: very nice colors and textures! |
| 19:47 |
Kenney |
They do a bit |
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Kenney |
http://puu.sh/i0htR/ec32f303b6.jpg |
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Kenney |
Need to tweak the colors though |
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Sokomine |
Kenney: oh! that looks very nice. the diffrent colors of the leaves contribute a lot |
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Kenney |
Yep, now make the map generator randomly rotate the leave nodes - that will make sure you don't see repeating textures so much |
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YvesLevier |
Minetest operational. 100% operational on my new disk. THANKS EVERYBODY <3 |
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YvesLevier |
In few, i will invite you to - seen - how your work was usefull in order to make virtual what look like our true village. Impossible thing out of the excellent work youre making VanE :) |
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YvesLevier |
maybe my last sentence not real english. Hoping you can guess what im telling ;) |
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Kenney |
Putting together an extensive list of eye candy features for Minetest |
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Kenney |
Done! https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=12261 |
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Kenney |
Last progress pic of the day, made really good progress http://puu.sh/i0uo1/74df8207b1.jpg |
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YvesLevier |
Dont ask me how i did that but im always in smog! someone can help plz? |
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YvesLevier |
Also i would want to change language |
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zat |
a thing that Minetest REALLY needs is on-demand block registration with clients. |
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est31 |
what do you mean? |
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zat |
having every block in the server with all their textures downloaded upon connection is horrible |
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OldCoder |
Hm? Textures are downloaded but not the blocks I think. |
| 23:51 |
* OldCoder |
is on errands |
| 23:53 |
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| 23:54 |
zat |
OldCoder: probably not their definitions but their textures alone are too much |
| 23:54 |
zat |
they should come on demand |
| 23:54 |
zat |
that would so end with connection issues |
| 23:57 |
* Sokomine |
stares at a world covered in glass |
