| Time |
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tomlukeywood |
do you think i could run minetest on a 400mhz cpu? |
| 00:00 |
tomlukeywood |
arm v4 |
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twoelk |
this game among others is designed for low spec servers https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9192 |
| 00:06 |
RealBadAngel |
rotfl, unbeliveable what hidden things you can see with minimapper |
| 00:07 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm, have you coded desert chicken in mapgen? http://i.imgur.com/V40VEup.jpg |
| 00:08 |
VanessaE |
cock-a-doodle-do. |
| 00:08 |
Chanku |
lel |
| 00:08 |
* twoelk |
uses the minetestmapper to map minecart systems |
| 00:08 |
hmmmm |
huh? |
| 00:08 |
Chanku |
Hrm.... |
| 00:09 |
RealBadAngel |
hmmmm, so whats that if not a chicken? ;) |
| 00:10 |
hmmmm |
it looks like a random patch of mapgen v6 terrain |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
RealBadAngel: looks more like a tyrannosaurus chicken ;) |
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RealBadAngel |
whatever it is, it has legs and seems to be running ;) |
| 00:11 |
usandfriends |
It's hard to look around, latest version, MacOSX |
| 00:12 |
usandfriends |
Like when I move my mouse horizontally, it just stops at random places. |
| 00:16 |
usandfriends |
It might be the rendering... |
| 00:16 |
twoelk |
http://i.imgur.com/63001eo.png <- not uptodate map of rails on VE-C |
| 00:17 |
est31 |
nice |
| 00:17 |
twoelk |
RealBadAngel: maybe your minimap could show a subway plan |
| 00:18 |
est31 |
meh, no |
| 00:18 |
est31 |
far too specialized |
| 00:18 |
est31 |
already now minimap has too much nodes |
| 00:18 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: it already has a "radar" mode |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
twoelk: it's interesting - I didn't know the subway system on VE-C had gone out that far. |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
too bad carts suck |
| 00:19 |
usandfriends |
Where do I file bugs? |
| 00:19 |
VanessaE |
usandfriends: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/new |
| 00:19 |
est31 |
usandfriends, for minetest or minetest_game? |
| 00:20 |
usandfriends |
I'm guessing minetest. |
| 00:20 |
est31 |
what is your bug? |
| 00:21 |
usandfriends |
Scaling on OSX is messed up. The menu inputs do not scale properly. I have to click in the same place as before the scale to select the menu items. |
| 00:21 |
est31 |
thats a minetest bug yes |
| 00:21 |
est31 |
best to have a screenshot |
| 00:22 |
usandfriends |
And how about the scrolling bug? Scrolling is not smooth, it stops at random places. |
| 00:22 |
usandfriends |
I think it may have to do with rendering blocking the thread, assuming scrolling handler and renderer are on the same thread. |
| 00:22 |
est31 |
scrolling? in which way? |
| 00:23 |
usandfriends |
Sorry not scrolling, looking around. |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
ah |
| 00:23 |
usandfriends |
Moving my mouse. |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
yea |
| 00:23 |
usandfriends |
Mind, this is all on OSX. |
| 00:23 |
est31 |
yes that is because its the same thread |
| 00:24 |
est31 |
your FPS is just simply low |
| 00:24 |
est31 |
try to set the graphics settings down |
| 00:24 |
est31 |
and for the scaling bug, a screenshot would be great |
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usandfriends |
est31: So I turned off all the options in Settings, it's still really hard to look around. |
| 00:32 |
usandfriends |
I also quit all my other applications except my client and Minetest. |
| 00:35 |
twoelk |
VanessaE: another version, more recent but less of the map http://i.imgur.com/hajVySk.png |
| 00:36 |
VanessaE |
wow |
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twoelk |
note the streams and the hidden irrigation under my weheat field in the north |
| 00:36 |
twoelk |
+wheat |
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VanessaE |
yep, I see them |
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mccomase |
Oldcoder can i be a builder on one of your servers im 22 and a great builder |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
mccomase, yes |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
Stop jumping around :P |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
I assume you mean moderator or admin |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
Since anybody can be a "builder" |
| 03:01 |
mccomase |
just builder |
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OldCoder |
well, sure |
| 03:01 |
mccomase |
thank you |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
Care to come help clean up Landrush or Finerealms? |
| 03:01 |
OldCoder |
these are unusual worlds |
| 03:02 |
mccomase |
ok cool |
| 03:02 |
OldCoder |
See me in Landrush perhaps |
| 03:02 |
OldCoder |
To start |
| 03:02 |
OldCoder |
You can help revive |
| 03:02 |
OldCoder |
a noble world |
| 03:02 |
mccomase |
tok |
| 03:02 |
OldCoder |
If you do mccomase I will offer you some deals |
| 03:05 |
mccomase |
cool |
| 03:05 |
mccomase |
im in the server |
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blaise |
hrmm |
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MinetestBot |
[git] paramat -> minetest/minetest: Biome API, mgv7: Increase heat/humidity spreads. Improve mgv7 noise parameters 774e5d1 http://git.io/vT5sC (2015-05-24T04:33:09+01:00) |
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Chanku |
hmmm |
| 04:02 |
* Chanku |
tries to think of how to do something in this mod of mine.... |
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Krock |
Pilot feature: User avatars displayed next to the author name ( http://nimg.pf-control.de/MTstuff/modSearch.php?q=map ) |
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| 11:52 |
ajaypay |
does anyone know how to work travelnet boxes |
| 11:53 |
ElectronLibre |
Lifts or teleporters? |
| 11:53 |
ajaypay |
teleporters |
| 11:54 |
ElectronLibre |
If I remember correctly you have to give them a channel or something like that, and then a number or a name, then you go back to the previous travel boxes with the same channel and refresh the list. |
| 11:55 |
ajaypay |
so are they hard to use? |
| 11:55 |
ElectronLibre |
No. |
| 11:55 |
ajaypay |
ok |
| 11:56 |
ElectronLibre |
You enter, the door close, a GUI open, you click a button, you're teleported, then the door open, and you're free. |
| 11:56 |
ajaypay |
i biult some on trepca and they didnt work |
| 11:57 |
ajaypay |
k |
| 11:57 |
ElectronLibre |
Maybe they were lifts, then you have to place them in the same vertical axis. |
| 11:57 |
ajaypay |
the poblic one does that |
| 11:58 |
ajaypay |
no it was whit box |
| 11:58 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, they were teleport boxes then. |
| 11:58 |
ajaypay |
ok |
| 11:58 |
ElectronLibre |
I've not used this mod since a while, I should look at it again. |
| 12:00 |
ajaypay |
so it neds a mese block and i cant find one |
| 12:01 |
ajaypay |
my geus is that there in the ground. |
| 12:02 |
ajaypay |
the mod is cool though |
| 12:06 |
ajaypay |
how do you herd sheep in an encosure ?mine always disapear |
| 12:07 |
ElectronLibre |
Keeping animals in a closed cage or in an enclosure is complicated, they might disappear because they lifetime is over, or after a clearobjects. It's very complicated and I don't have a clue. |
| 12:08 |
ElectronLibre |
s/they/their |
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CWz |
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.magichet.magichet um no source for this one it seems maybe i missed it |
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Zeno` |
ugh, internet is still broken :( |
| 12:42 |
Zeno` |
fatal: unable to access 'https://github.com/minetest/minetest.git/': Could not resolve host: github.com |
| 12:42 |
Zeno` |
stupid POS |
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| 12:43 |
marytheminer_ |
hi is anybody there? |
| 12:43 |
* Zeno` |
looks |
| 12:43 |
Zeno` |
hmm |
| 12:43 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 12:43 |
marytheminer_ |
hey |
| 12:44 |
Zeno` |
not that I can see. /me looks under the bed. AHA! A VanessaE is here |
| 12:44 |
Zeno` |
she obviously cannot sleep again :( |
| 12:44 |
marytheminer_ |
:000 im talking to moderators!! |
| 12:44 |
VanessaE |
actually I did sleep, just not much |
| 12:44 |
* Zeno` |
is a moderator |
| 12:44 |
Zeno` |
well, I am moderately moderate |
| 12:44 |
marytheminer_ |
i slept well |
| 12:45 |
marytheminer_ |
Zeno: lol |
| 12:45 |
Zeno` |
meh, it's 9AM for you VanessaE |
| 12:45 |
Zeno` |
early bird catches the worm. That's my motto |
| 12:45 |
marytheminer_ |
it's 9:01 for me |
| 12:45 |
Zeno` |
I don't like worms though so you can eat them all |
| 12:45 |
VanessaE |
you can keep those worms for yourself :P |
| 12:45 |
marytheminer_ |
blech |
| 12:46 |
marytheminer_ |
yeah please |
| 12:46 |
Zeno` |
lol, I watched a cooking show the other night and they cooked baby eels |
| 12:46 |
Zeno` |
they kinda looked like worms |
| 12:46 |
marytheminer_ |
eeeeeeeeewwwwwwww |
| 12:46 |
est31 |
worms provide precious nutrition. too bad I've eaten today already |
| 12:46 |
marytheminer_ |
i never eat wierd stuff |
| 12:46 |
Zeno` |
that's correct est31! |
| 12:46 |
Zeno` |
est31, do you never sleep either? |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
sheesh, I get the flu, spend a week in bed and everyone has gone stark raving mad |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
I'm planning to |
| 12:47 |
marytheminer_ |
heehee |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
(not getting mad, sleeping) |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
est31, that warning should be fixed |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
I'll fix it if you want |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
which warning? |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
I was already crazyu :) |
| 12:47 |
VanessaE |
-u |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
the srp warning? |
| 12:47 |
marytheminer_ |
what warning? |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
*nod* |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
ah yea |
| 12:47 |
est31 |
srp is external code |
| 12:47 |
Zeno` |
grrr |
| 12:48 |
marytheminer_ |
you are talking code |
| 12:48 |
est31 |
so you should ask the upstream maintainer to fix it :) |
| 12:48 |
est31 |
like ... me :p |
| 12:48 |
Zeno` |
grrr |
| 12:48 |
Zeno` |
i am a lion! |
| 12:48 |
marytheminer_ |
:) |
| 12:48 |
est31 |
btw thats a clang warning isnt it? |
| 12:48 |
marytheminer_ |
lions cant type |
| 12:48 |
Zeno` |
I think it's a glibc warning |
| 12:49 |
est31 |
bc I don't get it |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
(i.e. has warn_unused parameter set for the fn prototype or something) |
| 12:49 |
VanessaE |
marytheminer_: sure they can, with a big enough keyboard ;) |
| 12:49 |
est31 |
and travis doesnt get it either |
| 12:49 |
Zeno` |
maybe different glibc version |
| 12:49 |
marytheminer_ |
neither do i |
| 12:49 |
marytheminer_ |
glibc? |
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marytheminer_ |
oh is that it? |
| 12:51 |
marytheminer_ |
hey where did everybody go? |
| 12:51 |
marytheminer_ |
wierd. |
| 12:51 |
VanessaE |
we're all still here, mary |
| 12:51 |
est31 |
so Zeno` you can push to upstream repo now |
| 12:51 |
marytheminer_ |
oh. you must have pretty long answers |
| 12:51 |
est31 |
and fix the warning |
| 12:52 |
* Zeno` |
cooks breakfast for VanessaE and marytheminer_. Scrambled eggs (with a squeeze of orange juice... seriously), crispy bacon, mushrooms and toast made from freshly baked bread |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
enjoy! |
| 12:52 |
VanessaE |
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 12:52 |
marytheminer_ |
yum |
| 12:52 |
marytheminer_ |
*licks llips* |
| 12:52 |
Zeno` |
I can push to upstream? |
| 12:52 |
est31 |
look into your github notifications |
| 12:52 |
* Zeno` |
looks |
| 12:53 |
Zeno` |
if it'll load :/ |
| 12:53 |
marytheminer_ |
im leaving to enjoy my yummy food :) |
| 12:53 |
Jordach_ |
don't tempt the people who like eating in here |
| 12:53 |
Zeno` |
haha :) |
| 12:53 |
marytheminer_ |
:D |
| 12:53 |
Zeno` |
(that is seriously what I had this morning for breakfast) |
| 12:53 |
VanessaE |
come over here and cook breakfast for us ;) |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
I would if I could |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
I am master breadmaker now |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
est31, cool :) |
| 12:54 |
Wayward_Tab |
Good morning/evening :) |
| 12:54 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 12:54 |
Zeno` |
yo Wayward_One |
| 12:59 |
* CWz |
is compileing a few of the minetest andriod clones for linux |
| 13:00 |
CWz |
for no reason |
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| 13:00 |
marytheminer |
im back |
| 13:00 |
Zeno` |
haha CWz |
| 13:00 |
Zeno` |
wb marktraceur |
| 13:00 |
Zeno` |
err marktraceur aka marytheminer |
| 13:00 |
VanessaE |
tab complete FAIL :) |
| 13:00 |
marytheminer |
:) |
| 13:00 |
marytheminer |
i *think* my bro ajaypay is coming too |
| 13:00 |
CWz |
PROTOCOL_VERSION 21: is version 0.4.9 correct? |
| 13:01 |
marytheminer |
dnt ask me idont know |
| 13:01 |
Zeno` |
VanessaE, heh |
| 13:01 |
VanessaE |
no idea, CWz, but that does sound about right |
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marytheminer |
oh here he is |
| 13:02 |
Zeno` |
hello marytheminer's brother |
| 13:02 |
ajaypay |
:) |
| 13:02 |
ajaypay |
hi |
| 13:02 |
marytheminer |
hes chatting on a non touch kindle so his responses will take longer :) |
| 13:03 |
ajaypay |
yup |
| 13:03 |
marytheminer |
oh & btw just call me mary |
| 13:03 |
Zeno` |
When I'm on my android it takes me 10 minutes to type "hi" |
| 13:04 |
Wayward_Tab |
Lol |
| 13:04 |
Calinou |
nice Fedora 21, Zeno` :P |
| 13:05 |
Zeno` |
seriously. That's why I never chat using Android |
| 13:05 |
Zeno` |
Calinou, correct! I am not on my Android atm otherwise I wouldn't be chatting hehe |
| 13:05 |
ajaypay |
i know what u mean same here zeno |
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Zeno` |
marytheminer, there is an impostor here |
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marytheminer_ |
there was an error so i left & came back |
| 13:06 |
Zeno` |
oh |
| 13:06 |
Zeno` |
how do we know it's really you? |
| 13:06 |
marytheminer_ |
my screen froze |
| 13:06 |
Zeno` |
must be cold there |
| 13:06 |
marytheminer_ |
we were talking about andriods |
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Zeno` |
yeah, androids are going to take over the world. /me panics |
| 13:07 |
CWz |
had to do some patching with 0.4.9 to get the WorldCraft for andriod to start compileing. unsurprisingly it failed despite this |
| 13:07 |
Zeno` |
WorldCraft? |
| 13:07 |
Wayward_Tab |
Eww |
| 13:07 |
marytheminer_ |
gotta go; church! :) seeya |
| 13:08 |
CWz |
maybe it's a dev build of 0.4.9 |
| 13:08 |
VanessaE |
last worldcraft I saw was 0.4.10 |
| 13:08 |
Wayward_Tab |
yeah, that's what most of the clones are |
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CWz |
but it's client server protocol is for 0.4,9 or for pre server to client ready |
| 13:09 |
Zeno` |
attack of the clones |
| 13:09 |
CWz |
this is what what i found in their repo |
| 13:09 |
ajaypay_ |
? |
| 13:09 |
Zeno` |
androids most likely... I warned you they'd take over the world |
| 13:09 |
ajaypay_ |
? |
| 13:10 |
VanessaE |
ajaypay_: we're discussing programming. |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
are we? |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
lol |
| 13:10 |
ajaypay_ |
bye |
| 13:10 |
Zeno` |
I lose track so easily :( |
| 13:10 |
CWz |
https://github.com/gameabc/worldcraft |
| 13:10 |
ajaypay_ |
o il stay |
| 13:11 |
ajaypay_ |
hey v |
| 13:11 |
VanessaE |
hi. |
| 13:11 |
CWz |
Hey Zeno` how are you? |
| 13:11 |
ajaypay_ |
so what type of programing? |
| 13:12 |
Wayward_Tab |
CWz, here's an idea- try building the Freeminer apk :P |
| 13:12 |
VanessaE |
ajaypay_: random. |
| 13:13 |
ajaypay_ |
k |
| 13:13 |
CWz |
Not building apk's i am ported (sort of) squeakcraft and Multicraft to linux |
| 13:13 |
ajaypay_ |
i have 2 go now |
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| 13:14 |
CWz |
i think to to get an legit Worldcraft android we would need a real programer who can compile without cmake |
| 13:14 |
CWz |
aka notme |
| 13:15 |
Wayward_Tab |
Ah, ok. I thought you were building apks |
| 13:19 |
CWz |
well gave up on worldcraft it appear to be a mess |
| 13:19 |
Wayward_Tab |
Heh |
| 13:20 |
CWz |
getting lua error on start up |
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TheWild |
maybe stupid question but how to update minetest repository locally completely discarding any of my changes in single command? |
| 13:45 |
Krock |
git pull? |
| 13:46 |
ElectronLibre |
git add . && git reset --hard HEAD && git pull origin master |
| 13:46 |
VanessaE |
git reset --hard HEAD ; git pull |
| 13:46 |
Krock |
..or something between the two abrove |
| 13:46 |
Krock |
*above |
| 13:48 |
TheWild |
ok, thanks |
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TheWild |
documenting network protocol on my own goes pretty sluggish. Are there serious changes to the protocol planned? (e.g. breaking compatibility) |
| 13:53 |
VanessaE |
there are. |
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* VanessaE |
pokes est31 |
| 13:53 |
TheWild |
I'm not sure when I ever finish it, will it be still revelant? |
| 13:53 |
VanessaE |
depends on how long you take :) |
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est31 |
TheWild, no breaking compatibility is planned |
| 13:55 |
VanessaE |
oh? |
| 13:55 |
est31 |
of course, over some time, given enough people switch to newer versions, we might drop old protocols |
| 13:55 |
est31 |
but there is no total break |
| 13:55 |
est31 |
as in |
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VanessaE |
est31: when did that change? |
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est31 |
git repo version abc doesnt work with repo version def |
| 13:56 |
CWz |
0.4.3 clients can still join 0.4.12 |
| 13:56 |
est31 |
where abc is a parent of def |
| 13:56 |
est31 |
yes |
| 13:56 |
est31 |
and they should still work with 0.4.12-dev |
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Telesight |
Hello |
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est31 |
VanessaE, quite some time ago |
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est31 |
even before I changed protocol |
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Telesight |
I copied a world from one machine to another |
| 13:57 |
est31 |
there was once this discussion with nrz |
| 13:57 |
est31 |
and there he said he'll try to find a way to retain compat |
| 13:57 |
Telesight |
but I cannot enter the the copied world |
| 13:57 |
est31 |
so since then the idea has been dropped |
| 13:57 |
VanessaE |
guess I missed that part :) |
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Telesight |
I think he keeps the ip adress soemwhere |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
he? |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
maybe you mean "it" .. |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
anyway no, worlds don't do that. |
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Calinou |
what happens when you try to enter it? what error message do you get? |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
if you can't load a world, either your build lacks map compatibility e.g. leveldb vs sqlite, or you lack the proper mods |
| 13:58 |
VanessaE |
or the world is corrupted. |
| 13:59 |
Telesight |
In fact I made a clone, I can start that server/world |
| 13:59 |
est31 |
TheWild, interesting, you document the protocol? |
| 13:59 |
Telesight |
But from other macines on my lan I can not enter |
| 13:59 |
est31 |
which base version do you use? |
| 13:59 |
est31 |
latest git? |
| 13:59 |
est31 |
or sth else? |
| 13:59 |
Telesight |
It stays in "Connecting server" |
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VanessaE |
Telesight: and you're sure your other boxes are reaching the right IP address and port? |
| 14:00 |
Telesight |
I use version 0.4.11 |
| 14:00 |
VanessaE |
outdated. |
| 14:00 |
TheWild |
0.4.12, that one officially released |
| 14:00 |
VanessaE |
but irrelevant here |
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| 14:01 |
VanessaE |
(and est31's question was to TheWild, not you Telesight) |
| 14:01 |
Telesight |
If I make aworld on a laptop directly there is no problem with reaching the server |
| 14:01 |
est31 |
TheWild, protocol (especially early protocol) did change with version 25, FYI |
| 14:01 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: but are you running the world in server/multiplayer mode or in singleplayer? |
| 14:01 |
Telesight |
I give laptops a static ipaddress |
| 14:01 |
est31 |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/src/clientiface.h |
| 14:02 |
Telesight |
I use the "Server" tab |
| 14:02 |
TheWild |
it seems I was documenting 24 |
| 14:02 |
VanessaE |
Telesight: but what about the port number? |
| 14:02 |
est31 |
25 is less than a month in official git |
| 14:03 |
est31 |
either way most of my changes are documented by changes inside that file I linked |
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Telesight |
I use standard 30000 |
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est31 |
just compare it with this TheWild https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/0.4.12/src/clientiface.h |
| 14:05 |
est31 |
hrmmm |
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est31 |
I think I'll tidy up the arrows in that file |
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Telesight |
Moment I check the ipadress ... |
| 14:16 |
Telesight |
arrg, beginners fault. It was a router setting |
| 14:16 |
Telesight |
I initially used the "wire" to connect and then wireless and that is another MAC |
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Telesight |
So I reserved an ipadress to the wired part |
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Telesight |
in my router |
| 14:20 |
Telesight |
So you can clone a world to another machine but be sure to point to the correct ipadress of that machine ;-) |
| 14:24 |
Telesight |
So two kids happy ;-) |
| 14:28 |
VanessaE |
that would help :) |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
| 14:32 |
VanessaE |
hey |
| 14:32 |
est31 |
hi |
| 14:35 |
Telesight |
VanessaE: I thought maybe with cloning a world the ipadress of the original machine is set somewhere, but that is not the case I experienced now |
| 14:35 |
VanessaE |
nope. |
| 14:36 |
Telesight |
Those routers are not always clear in giving the right machine ... |
| 14:37 |
VanessaE |
I'm glad I don't have to rely on a router :P |
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MinetestBot |
[git] est31 -> minetest/minetest: Small clientiface ASCII art improvements 6b7fb59 http://git.io/vTFLx (2015-05-24T16:33:22+02:00) |
| 14:48 |
Telesight |
Is there a ppa fro Ubuntu with the latest Minetest? |
| 14:48 |
Telesight |
for |
| 14:48 |
VanessaE |
https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/ubuntu/daily-builds |
| 14:49 |
VanessaE |
or ubuntu/stable if you just want 0.4.12 |
| 14:50 |
Telesight |
I prefer the stable version |
| 14:52 |
Telesight |
That means: ppa:minetestdevs/stable |
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Telesight |
Mods are not (too) version dependend? |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
they can be |
| 15:01 |
VanessaE |
but not usually |
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rubenwardy |
Does "flush" in technical terms mean to retrieve from a buffer and then clear the buffer? |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
just depends if the mod in question uses some new feature that old versions of minetest don't have |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
rubenwardy: yes, usually. |
| 15:02 |
Telesight |
VanessaE, ok as in all software with modules ...;-) |
| 15:02 |
VanessaE |
read the buffer, clear it, and reset your pointers |
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rubenwardy |
awesome |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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| 15:11 |
TheWild |
Now it's time for my honest opinion about chunk format. |
| 15:11 |
TheWild |
After header, there are two zlib-compressed parts: first for blocks in general (param0, param1 and param2) and second for its metadata. |
| 15:11 |
TheWild |
However there is a slight drawback: no size of compressed data is provided. Minetest is dealing with it pretty well, but lack of few additional bytes makes from simple task an unnecessary challenge for other programmers doing their work in other languages. |
| 15:11 |
TheWild |
PHP has gzuncompress function. However, it does not report anything about how much bytes were taken from input (or at least requires dirty and slow workaround). |
| 15:11 |
TheWild |
In .NET, I've tested two libraries: Ionic.Zlib (aka DotNetZip) and ZlibNet. |
| 15:12 |
TheWild |
Ionic.Zlib reads too much from input stream (buffering, caching or what) but at least properly gives the number of bytes read. |
| 15:12 |
TheWild |
ZlibNet is flawed in both cases. |
| 15:14 |
Krock |
7zip ftw |
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est31 |
very cool TheWild that you do this deep research |
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rubenwardy |
ffs |
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rubenwardy |
16:34:06: WARNING: Undeclared global variable "PROXY" accessed at /usr/local/share/lua/5.1/socket/http.lua:189 |
| 15:37 |
Krock |
lol |
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rubenwardy |
...enwardy/dev/minetest/bin/../builtin/common/serialize.lua:190: attempt to call method 'byte' (a nil value) |
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rubenwardy |
nevermind |
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rubenwardy |
Grrr |
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rubenwardy |
1. I tried to give this table to it: { "value to deserialise" } |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
2. The value to deserialise didn't start with return |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
WHY IS THAT NEEDED? |
| 15:56 |
rubenwardy |
That belongs in the domain of hacky javascript AJAX or whatever |
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blaise |
lmao |
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ajaypay |
hey mtm |
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marytheminer |
hey!! |
| 16:21 |
marytheminer |
didnt know u were on |
| 16:21 |
marytheminer |
gabby's helping us clean our room |
| 16:21 |
marytheminer |
what are you doing? |
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ajaypay |
do you think i should expand our area? |
| 16:22 |
marytheminer |
eeeh its kinda big already |
| 16:22 |
marytheminer |
doncha think? |
| 16:22 |
ajaypay |
listning to dubstep |
| 16:22 |
marytheminer |
i can hear it from here |
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marytheminer |
were going downstairs now |
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ajaypay |
hey your typing too fast |
| 16:23 |
marytheminer |
heehee |
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Calinou |
move to a PM, use /query |
| 16:24 |
marytheminer |
ok |
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ajaypay |
? |
| 16:25 |
marytheminer |
we arent really talking anything minetesty so he said move to a PM |
| 16:27 |
rubenwardy |
I get netest_web_panel/data/servertest/worldmods/mwcp/init.lua:75: unexpected symbol near 'if' on https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/2cbf8ea1867c86835a9d#file-gistfile1-txt-L78 |
| 16:27 |
init |
yes |
| 16:28 |
rubenwardy |
https://gist.github.com/rubenwardy/2cbf8ea1867c86835a9d#file-gistfile1-txt-L75 sorry |
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rubenwardy |
seriously? |
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rubenwardy |
the fix was if true then return end |
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notanewbie |
Hey |
| 16:31 |
ajaypay |
yo peps |
| 16:32 |
ajaypay |
peeps |
| 16:32 |
notanewbie |
He cant spell |
| 16:32 |
notanewbie |
Just so you know... |
| 16:32 |
ajaypay |
¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡ |
| 16:32 |
notanewbie |
Hes my bro I should know. |
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CWz |
would a camera rotation like this be useful in minetest? |
| 16:41 |
Krock |
camera rotations are only good and frequently used in animations/vidos |
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| 17:19 |
asie |
hello again |
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asie |
i'm frustrated with the other community again |
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asie |
but now i managed to relicense new BuildCraft textures *cough* |
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rubenwardy |
the other community? |
| 17:22 |
asie |
minecraft modding. |
| 17:22 |
rubenwardy |
ah |
| 17:22 |
asie |
my only issues with minetest still remain: (a) no way to allow for dynamic server->client model sending |
| 17:22 |
asie |
and (b) no lua equivalent of coffeescript |
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rubenwardy |
Like dynamic mesh nodes? |
| 17:22 |
asie |
yes |
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asie |
i requested that ages ago |
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rubenwardy |
moonscript is a similar thing to coffeescript, but meh |
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asie |
i meant an equivalent, not a similar thing |
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asie |
vanilla lua is hard to wor kon |
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Jordach_ |
asie, i'm more angry at this API for not having things i need |
| 17:26 |
asie |
Jordach_: i'd rather have a limited API than a shitty API |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
!g minetest stress |
| 17:27 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2015-03-20 |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
!g minetest stress github |
| 17:27 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: https://github.com/minetest/minetest_game |
| 17:27 |
rubenwardy |
ffs |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress |
| 17:28 |
rubenwardy |
https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-stress/blob/master/examples/simple/init.lua |
| 17:29 |
asie |
add them |
| 17:29 |
rubenwardy |
to what? |
| 17:29 |
asie |
to stress API |
| 17:29 |
asie |
if you say it doesn thave things you need |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/2719 |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
idspispopd! |
| 17:30 |
rubenwardy |
I don't understand |
| 17:30 |
Jordach_ |
asie, i mean graphical methods that i require |
| 17:30 |
rubenwardy |
Minetest stress is like jQuery |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
what does vanilla Lua miss, asie? |
| 17:30 |
Calinou |
stuff like != and 0-indexing seems the obvious stuff to me |
| 17:31 |
Calinou |
instead of ~= and 1-indexing |
| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
I fucking hate ~= |
| 17:31 |
rubenwardy |
Ruins my day |
| 17:31 |
asie |
Calinou: it just gets out of hand quickly for large projects |
| 17:31 |
asie |
much harder to organize code |
| 17:31 |
asie |
the things you mentioned are minor |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
well you can use MoonScript, but I don't like having to compile my code |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
compiling CSS is okay, since that makes it not-dumb |
| 17:32 |
rubenwardy |
I wish dofile was relative, having to include minetest.get_worldpath() is just so unelegant |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
but programming languages are not-dumb already |
| 17:32 |
Calinou |
rubenwardy, create a variable called worldpath :P |
| 17:33 |
rubenwardy |
even then |
| 17:33 |
asie |
i'd love to make a new BuildTest |
| 17:33 |
asie |
i always wante dto |
| 17:33 |
asie |
as an actual proper BC subprojet |
| 17:33 |
asie |
subproject* |
| 17:34 |
rubenwardy |
dofile("file.lua") is better than dofile(modpath .. "file.lua") or dofile(minetest.get_modpath("test") .. "file.lua") |
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CWz |
which programing language is best programing language that is cross platfrom |
| 17:35 |
asie |
The JVM gives you like 15 |
| 17:35 |
asie |
or 20 |
| 17:35 |
asie |
the only issue it has is the slightly large RAM consumption of the default VM engine, but that has its valid reasons |
| 17:35 |
Calinou |
CWz, none, because there is no best language… |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
that said, some are better compromises than others, like Python |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
you can do everything efficiently by learning only 2 or 3 languages |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
eg. C++ and Java and Python |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
one low-level, one middle-level, one high-level |
| 17:36 |
Calinou |
although learning JavaScript instead of Python in that case lets you be proficient in Web browsers too |
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| 17:37 |
ajaypay |
wats cooking? |
| 17:38 |
ajaypay |
anybody? |
| 17:38 |
Calinou |
you mean smelting? |
| 17:38 |
Calinou |
http://wiki.minetest.net/Smelting |
| 17:38 |
ajaypay |
yes ;) |
| 17:39 |
asie |
me? i'm considering making an official BC-endorsed BuildTest |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
in the code it is cooking |
| 17:39 |
asie |
with official textures & a very faithful implementation |
| 17:39 |
asie |
but there are still limitations in the engine for that |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
although, actually |
| 17:39 |
rubenwardy |
cooking is a term which includes smelting, and also food cooking, clay etc |
| 17:40 |
rubenwardy |
"smelting" only applies to metals |
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marytheminer_ |
hi |
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marytheminer_ |
anyone around? |
| 17:41 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, you can smelt butter |
| 17:41 |
marytheminer_ |
i didnt know there was a butter mod |
| 17:41 |
rubenwardy |
That's different, that's a cooking technique |
| 17:41 |
marytheminer_ |
oh |
| 17:41 |
Krock |
rubenwardy, but it smelts... |
| 17:41 |
marytheminer_ |
into what? |
| 17:42 |
Krock |
liquid butter |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
It's like the different meanings of "hit" - website hit, physical hit |
| 17:42 |
marytheminer_ |
what do you do with that? |
| 17:42 |
rubenwardy |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smelting |
| 17:42 |
Krock |
yes.. bye. |
| 17:43 |
Krock |
lol |
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est31 |
interesting facepalm gonna get its own emoji |
| 17:43 |
Krock |
a palm, growing on a face? |
| 17:43 |
est31 |
http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/images/proposed/proposed_1f926.png |
| 17:43 |
est31 |
http://blog.unicode.org/2015/05/unicode-90-candidate-emoji.html |
| 17:44 |
Calinou |
“SELFIEâ€Â lol |
| 17:45 |
Krock |
then they also should add a double-facepalm! http://dummfug.cornblogs.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2014/07/thumb-doublefacepalmkzm.jpg |
| 17:46 |
init |
hai people |
| 17:46 |
est31 |
Hi init |
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Krock |
TOCLIENT_HELLO, init. |
| 17:47 |
init |
how are you |
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est31 |
first the client has to send TOSERVER_INIT |
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est31 |
then comes TOCLIENT_HELLO |
| 17:48 |
est31 |
then authentication |
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est31 |
then TOCLIENT_AUTH_ACCEPT |
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Krock |
est31, init already said hello... |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
we don't need to know the complete minetest protocol |
| 17:49 |
est31 |
hrmm |
| 17:49 |
est31 |
yes you do |
| 17:49 |
init |
yes, it's a must Krock |
| 17:49 |
est31 |
how dare you to be on this channel |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
I do? |
| 17:49 |
init |
without the minetest protocol you are NOTHING |
| 17:49 |
Krock |
gawd no |
| 17:50 |
est31 |
its only for people who know the error message indexes from the head |
| 17:50 |
est31 |
what index does SERVER_ACCESSDENIED_WRONG_CHARS_IN_NAME have :p |
| 17:50 |
Krock |
-1 ! |
| 17:50 |
est31 |
lol segfault |
| 17:51 |
ElectronLibre |
Cool. Unicode Croissants. http://unicode.org/reports/tr51/images/proposed/proposed_1f950.png |
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est31 |
I remember those books for people who learn reading (usually children) |
| 17:52 |
est31 |
there you have that BIG WRITING |
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est31 |
and every second word is an emoji |
| 17:52 |
est31 |
so that you can keep up with the story even if you dont know the words |
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Chanku |
Hey |
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est31 |
proper way to say that would have been "learn to read" I gues |
| 17:53 |
est31 |
s |
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CWz |
wow minecraft/minetest clones on main page of google play |
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CaveJohnson |
\o |
| 17:56 |
Krock |
est31, I'm a maths expert. Proof 5 = -2: http://pastebin.com/RpGk8XMk |
| 17:57 |
est31 |
lol |
| 17:58 |
Krock |
Spoiler: I already know the fault in there... |
| 17:58 |
est31 |
yes |
| 17:59 |
est31 |
I guess 6a + 2 = 0 = |
| 17:59 |
est31 |
? |
| 17:59 |
Krock |
yes, this calculation is only valid when the expression 6a + 2 euqls 0 |
| 18:00 |
est31 |
umm |
| 18:00 |
est31 |
the calculation is never valid |
| 18:00 |
est31 |
the equation 1 only holds on that condition yes |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
sure it is, 5 * 0 = -2 * 0 |
| 18:00 |
Krock |
oh well, the last line is nonsense |
| 18:00 |
est31 |
but the step 2 -> 3 uses 6a + 2 != 0 which isn't given here |
| 18:03 |
rubenwardy |
Well that was painful https://github.com/rubenwardy/minetest_web_panel/commit/0de58afd8fe934b9a05ff4b7e05490ca2561363e |
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est31 |
CWz, perhaps in your bubble, but not in mine |
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| 18:05 |
Calinou |
Google does filtering bubbles, so yes |
| 18:05 |
CWz |
I hate that feature almost as much as i hate email spam and the muscle building ads on the forum |
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| 18:18 |
blaise |
!servers |
| 18:18 |
blaise |
!host midnightsystems.net |
| 18:18 |
blaise |
hrmm |
| 18:18 |
zat |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3HJR6icXBo |
| 18:19 |
Jordach_ |
blaise, |
| 18:19 |
Jordach_ |
!server midnightsystems.net |
| 18:19 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach_: No results |
| 18:19 |
Jordach_ |
mfw |
| 18:20 |
Krock |
!up midnightsystems.net |
| 18:20 |
MinetestBot |
midnightsystems.net:30000 seems to be down |
| 18:20 |
CWz |
redcrab seems to be completely down |
| 18:21 |
Jordach_ |
its been dead for a while now |
| 18:21 |
Calinou |
https://imgrush.com/y5W_kEatzW7W |
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| 18:22 |
rubenwardy |
:') |
| 18:22 |
rubenwardy |
* :'( |
| 18:22 |
rubenwardy |
Calinou, did you make that? Godot? |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
working on that demo… |
| 18:22 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/O8wbBRDl/mdQy5QeD |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
yes, how did you guess? :p |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
I made some of the graphics elements, most of the code wasn't written by me |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
made the bouncy cube, was very easy |
| 18:23 |
Calinou |
as well as the jumppad |
| 18:25 |
blaise |
!up midnightsystems.net |
| 18:25 |
MinetestBot |
midnightsystems.net:30000 seems to be down |
| 18:25 |
blaise |
poop |
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| 18:26 |
notanewbie |
I love Minetest. |
| 18:26 |
notanewbie |
We should add a weather API. |
| 18:27 |
blaise |
lol |
| 18:27 |
notanewbie |
No, I'm serious! |
| 18:27 |
blaise |
damn verizon dsl router doesn't do port forwarding |
| 18:27 |
blaise |
:( |
| 18:27 |
notanewbie |
I feel like the vanilla Minetest is boring. |
| 18:27 |
Jordach_ |
>verizon |
| 18:27 |
notanewbie |
HAte 'em. Internet keeps blacking out. |
| 18:28 |
blaise |
notanewbie: there are weather implementations in minetest, you know.. |
| 18:28 |
notanewbie |
Really? |
| 18:28 |
blaise |
yes, rain.. snow.. |
| 18:28 |
blaise |
I dunno about hail or what not |
| 18:28 |
notanewbie |
I never saw them. Is it on by default? |
| 18:29 |
asie |
anyway i still want to work on my own tech mod for minetest |
| 18:29 |
asie |
also, i think you should do a very important thing |
| 18:29 |
notanewbie |
Cool! What's it supposed to do? |
| 18:29 |
notanewbie |
What should I do? |
| 18:29 |
asie |
https://github.com/CyanideX/Unity <- get permission to use these textures |
| 18:29 |
asie |
they're the best MC texturepack, one of the few considered superior to vanilla |
| 18:30 |
asie |
or even get the guy convinced somehow |
| 18:30 |
asie |
anyhow, my own tech mod? |
| 18:30 |
asie |
i'm the current owner of BuildCraft, that's one |
| 18:30 |
asie |
also, i want a custom barrels implementation |
| 18:30 |
asie |
and a *proper* BC clone |
| 18:30 |
notanewbie |
Lemme see...looks like you have to go to #MinecraftUnity |
| 18:30 |
asie |
i know the guy |
| 18:31 |
blaise |
notanewbie: it's a mod you add to your server |
| 18:31 |
blaise |
there's a few, actually |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
notanewbie, vanilla Minetest is supposed to be boring |
| 18:31 |
notanewbie |
Oh. |
| 18:31 |
rubenwardy |
They want to encourage modding |
| 18:31 |
notanewbie |
I see. |
| 18:32 |
blaise |
you can install mods directly from within the client.. so it's not a big deal |
| 18:32 |
notanewbie |
@asie if you know the guy why do you want me to get the permissions? |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
Don't use the mod store |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
It's broken |
| 18:32 |
blaise |
oh no! |
| 18:32 |
blaise |
:G |
| 18:32 |
asie |
notanewbie: it was more or less a suggestion for minetest game devs |
| 18:32 |
asie |
i plan to make my own gmae |
| 18:32 |
asie |
game* |
| 18:32 |
notanewbie |
Oh. |
| 18:32 |
asie |
as in a minetest game... that's the right term still isn't it |
| 18:32 |
rubenwardy |
Well, only old versions will be available and not many games are there |
| 18:33 |
OldCoder |
How do I remove signs? |
| 18:33 |
zat |
asie: what kind of game? |
| 18:33 |
OldCoder |
from a wall? |
| 18:33 |
notanewbie |
Yeah the store is outdated. |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
OldCoder, locked signs? |
| 18:33 |
OldCoder |
No |
| 18:33 |
OldCoder |
I think |
| 18:33 |
asie |
zat: who knows yet? depends on what capabilities of the engine are prsented to me |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
You can't just dig them? |
| 18:33 |
asie |
i made mesegates and meselamps once |
| 18:33 |
OldCoder |
OldCoder Hungry Games if you can take a look |
| 18:33 |
rubenwardy |
Weird |
| 18:33 |
asie |
so i am at least somewhat familiar with the engine |
| 18:34 |
rubenwardy |
!server hungry |
| 18:34 |
MinetestBot |
rubenwardy: OldCoder Hungry Games | minetest.org:30015 | Clients: 6/11, 2/10 | Version: 0.4.12 / hungry_game | Ping: 95ms |
| 18:34 |
zat |
asie: I have an abandoned game project that I am planning passing over to whoever wants to continue its development. |
| 18:34 |
notanewbie |
Which game is it? |
| 18:34 |
asie |
zat: what is it? |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
Ah |
| 18:35 |
OldCoder |
How do I turn off //i ? That is the issue |
| 18:35 |
zat |
asie: it is a mod that comprises everything in the nature, I mean, the main mod that makes up the game is involved in the map generation, biomes, realistic resources generation, basic recipes, etc... |
| 18:36 |
asie |
ehh |
| 18:36 |
zat |
everything is set up programatically |
| 18:36 |
notanewbie |
Wow. What's it called? Sounds really cool. |
| 18:36 |
asie |
that sounds like a lot of nothing, or a kitchen sink pack |
| 18:36 |
asie |
what's the theme? the underlying vision? |
| 18:36 |
zat |
it is a realistic world |
| 18:36 |
zat |
the most realistic possible |
| 18:37 |
zat |
many praised my development but I don't have much time to continue with it |
| 18:37 |
zat |
and most importantly, many limitations got me stalled |
| 18:37 |
zat |
I wanted to feature the possibility of making alloys |
| 18:38 |
notanewbie |
What's the game called? |
| 18:39 |
zat |
digitalis |
| 18:39 |
zat |
the mod I talked about is called earth |
| 18:39 |
zat |
I added a lot of thing to its nature component also |
| 18:39 |
zat |
many things to farm |
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| 18:40 |
zat |
I just need help of experienced developers |
| 18:40 |
zat |
so I am calling for help officially :P anyone? |
| 18:41 |
OldCoder |
rubenwardy, thank you |
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| 18:41 |
init |
you're requesting an experienced developer |
| 18:41 |
rubenwardy |
Welcome :P |
| 18:42 |
zat |
init: not only one, whatever number interested in help |
| 18:42 |
init |
:P ik |
| 18:43 |
zat |
what if I recruit VanessaE to help me with the trees... |
| 18:43 |
zat |
and the original devels of every mod I am taking parts of |
| 18:43 |
zat |
:D! |
| 18:44 |
Wayward_Tab |
zat, maybe make a forum post about it? I'm sure you'd get many more replies, as there are far more people in the Minetest community than those on IRC |
| 18:45 |
zat |
yes I need to make a forum account I guess :P |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
!dev Codestyle |
| 18:47 |
MinetestBot |
No such page. |
| 18:47 |
ElectronLibre |
Whan you say game, do you say subgame or engine? |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
!dev Code+style |
| 18:47 |
MinetestBot |
No such page. |
| 18:47 |
rubenwardy |
!dev Code_style |
| 18:47 |
zat |
ElectronLibre: i guess that as per minetest definition, it is subgame. |
| 18:48 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, then I could maybe help. Do you have a copy of the code I could get to see what it looks like? |
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| 19:00 |
zat |
ElectronLibre: it is currently in a non-working state but the code itself is like pretty self explanatory |
| 19:00 |
zat |
I will have to setup its gih repo |
| 19:00 |
ElectronLibre |
That's not a problem. I will wait and if needed, correct things. |
| 19:01 |
zat |
cool thx ElectronLibre |
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| 19:05 |
marytheminer |
hello |
| 19:06 |
marytheminer |
i know you can see me |
| 19:06 |
marytheminer |
whatev |
| 19:07 |
* init |
stalks marytheminer |
| 19:07 |
marytheminer |
who's init? |
| 19:07 |
init |
it's me |
| 19:07 |
marytheminer |
oh |
| 19:07 |
marytheminer |
hi |
| 19:07 |
marytheminer |
:) |
| 19:07 |
ElectronLibre |
The process 0. |
| 19:07 |
init |
1* |
| 19:07 |
marytheminer |
huh? |
| 19:07 |
init |
my pid is 1. |
| 19:07 |
marytheminer |
pid? |
| 19:08 |
marytheminer |
oh you kid. |
| 19:08 |
* init |
kills ElectronLibre's irc client as revenge >:D |
| 19:08 |
init |
marytheminer: process id |
| 19:08 |
marytheminer |
my id? |
| 19:08 |
marytheminer |
what about it? |
| 19:08 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, I thought that as many people they would start counting at 0. |
| 19:08 |
init |
no, pid means process id |
| 19:09 |
init |
$ pidof init |
| 19:09 |
init |
1 |
| 19:09 |
marytheminer |
you want ME to process id? |
| 19:09 |
init |
wath |
| 19:09 |
marytheminer |
how do you do that? |
| 19:09 |
init |
I think we're mixing things |
| 19:09 |
ElectronLibre |
init, I think you managed to harm my client : I was loosing the connection when you corrected me. |
| 19:10 |
marytheminer |
i did not kill your client |
| 19:10 |
marytheminer |
THE VERY IDEA |
| 19:10 |
init |
no, that'd my evil young brother, systemd |
| 19:10 |
ElectronLibre |
marytheminer, init is a program in most GNU/Linux systems which is the 'parent process' of all programs. |
| 19:10 |
marytheminer |
oh init is not a person? |
| 19:10 |
ElectronLibre |
It is the first program loaded at start up. (If I remember correctly) |
| 19:10 |
init |
>_> <_< |
| 19:11 |
ElectronLibre |
init, in fact, don't bother explaining.. |
| 19:11 |
marytheminer |
oh that's cool. a chatbot! |
| 19:11 |
init |
thankyou |
| 19:11 |
init |
I have feelings you know |
| 19:11 |
marytheminer |
are you a robot? |
| 19:11 |
init |
and yeah, I think I passed the turing test |
| 19:11 |
init |
marytheminer: I am not |
| 19:11 |
marytheminer |
oh. why did he say you were? |
| 19:12 |
ElectronLibre |
I can't even understand how we got there. |
| 19:12 |
init |
me neither |
| 19:12 |
ElectronLibre |
He never said he was. |
| 19:12 |
init |
marytheminer: the `init` program is that |
| 19:12 |
marytheminer |
huh weird |
| 19:12 |
marytheminer |
oh |
| 19:12 |
marytheminer |
whatev |
| 19:12 |
ElectronLibre |
._. .-. ._. |
| 19:12 |
marytheminer |
lol |
| 19:12 |
init |
I am just a dude whose nick is the same as the name of a special program in the *nix world |
| 19:12 |
marytheminer |
·__· |
| 19:13 |
marytheminer |
i dont quite understand |
| 19:13 |
marytheminer |
say that in english plz? |
| 19:13 |
marytheminer |
:) plz? |
| 19:13 |
ElectronLibre |
init: What a beautiful way to summarize those past 5 weird minutes of misunderstanding. |
| 19:14 |
marytheminer |
XD |
| 19:14 |
init |
I know I am beautiful, but that's unrelated! |
| 19:14 |
marytheminer |
dont b vain |
| 19:14 |
ElectronLibre |
marytheminer, his nickname is the name of a program, that's it. |
| 19:14 |
marytheminer |
ohhhh. why didnt you say so? |
| 19:14 |
ElectronLibre |
"I am just a dude whose nick is the same as the name of a special program" |
| 19:14 |
ElectronLibre |
He said. |
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marytheminer |
it's not hard to get code mixed up with regular lingo. |
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| 19:15 |
marytheminer |
hi there! |
| 19:15 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, it was complicated, but finally you understood. |
| 19:16 |
marytheminer |
i'm glad. |
| 19:16 |
init |
we said, he said, you said, they saidv |
| 19:16 |
ElectronLibre |
What is the v for? |
| 19:16 |
init |
a typo |
| 19:16 |
marytheminer |
change of subject; do you play mt on public servers or private? |
| 19:16 |
init |
that `v` is next to the `launch nukes` key |
| 19:17 |
init |
I don't really play Minetest, I am just here because people over here are really nice |
| 19:17 |
cimbakahn |
Should i upgrade LinuxMint 17 Qiana Xfce 64bit to LinuxMint 17.1 Rebecca 64bit? |
| 19:17 |
ElectronLibre |
marytheminer, I rarely play Minetest just to play. |
| 19:17 |
init |
(yes! you people!) |
| 19:17 |
marytheminer |
i play public |
| 19:17 |
marytheminer |
and yes, minetest "working" is fun |
| 19:17 |
ElectronLibre |
I'm nice? Wow, breaking news, I wasn't even aware of it. |
| 19:17 |
marytheminer |
XD |
| 19:18 |
cimbakahn |
Under EDIT in the update manager is the upgrade for it. |
| 19:18 |
marytheminer |
wow. just wow. |
| 19:18 |
cimbakahn |
So, should i? |
| 19:18 |
marytheminer |
huh? are you talking to me? |
| 19:18 |
cimbakahn |
I love Minetest. |
| 19:18 |
marytheminer |
SO DO I!!!!!! |
| 19:18 |
init |
we love you, too |
| 19:19 |
marytheminer |
<3 |
| 19:19 |
marytheminer |
i did NOT say i loved you. |
| 19:19 |
ElectronLibre |
You should go ask on ##linuxmint, they must be able to answer you. |
| 19:19 |
marytheminer |
nice try. |
| 19:20 |
ElectronLibre |
There is an insane amount of 'linuxmint' channels ._. |
| 19:20 |
cimbakahn |
I thought i am in Linuxmint help now? |
| 19:20 |
marytheminer |
what's that? |
| 19:20 |
marytheminer |
linuxmint? is that spanish? |
| 19:20 |
ElectronLibre |
At the moment, you're on #minetest . |
| 19:20 |
ElectronLibre |
marytheminer, no, english, a GNU/Linux distribution. |
| 19:21 |
cimbakahn |
Oh. Sorry! Wrong tab. |
| 19:21 |
marytheminer |
ummm. ok whatever that is |
| 19:21 |
ElectronLibre |
No problem. |
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| 19:21 |
ElectronLibre |
!g Linux Mint |
| 19:21 |
MinetestBot |
ElectronLibre: http://www.linuxmint.com/ |
| 19:21 |
ElectronLibre |
^ marytheminer |
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| 19:21 |
marytheminer |
yeah |
| 19:21 |
marytheminer |
Ill check it out later |
| 19:22 |
* ElectronLibre |
writes down : try Linux Mint (XFCE) in a VM later. |
| 19:23 |
marytheminer |
sadly, yet another fellow chatter leaves |
| 19:24 |
marytheminer |
electronlibre: dont worry, ill remeber the url, i wont forget |
| 19:24 |
marytheminer |
i dont need to wite it down :) |
| 19:25 |
marytheminer |
oh, btw, are any of you on mt forums? |
| 19:25 |
ElectronLibre |
No, actually, "writes down" is the accurate translation of a language tic I have in my mother tongue. When someone says something, or I have to remember something, I always say "Je note" ("I write it down" - implying mentally, in my mind). |
| 19:26 |
ElectronLibre |
I am, why? |
| 19:26 |
marytheminer |
why isnt there a thread for all the servers, like a page describing each of them? |
| 19:27 |
ElectronLibre |
There is already https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?f=10 |
| 19:27 |
marytheminer |
it would be real helpful for a person trying to decide which to join |
| 19:27 |
zat |
ElectronLibre: spanish? |
| 19:27 |
ElectronLibre |
zat: Worse, french. |
| 19:27 |
zat |
D:! |
| 19:28 |
ElectronLibre |
They must all be in there, otherwise they might not be among the most maintained nor well moderated servers. |
| 19:28 |
marytheminer |
is there a page for every server? i'd like to know every mod my home server, trepca, uses. |
| 19:28 |
ElectronLibre |
Hmm, wait, |
| 19:28 |
est31 |
ahh |
| 19:28 |
ElectronLibre |
There we go : http://servers.minetest.net/ |
| 19:28 |
est31 |
yea |
| 19:28 |
est31 |
thats the link |
| 19:28 |
est31 |
marytheminer, trepca does have a forum page too |
| 19:28 |
marytheminer |
ok thanx ill check it out |
| 19:29 |
est31 |
since yesterday |
| 19:29 |
ElectronLibre |
Or http://www.minetest.net/servers, in its more readable format. |
| 19:29 |
est31 |
quit :( |
| 19:29 |
est31 |
wanted to say that hosting is endangered ... :( |
| 19:29 |
ElectronLibre |
zat: yes, french is ugly. |
| 19:29 |
ElectronLibre |
est31, he will probably come back soon. |
| 19:30 |
est31 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?t=12245 |
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| 19:31 |
ElectronLibre |
There he is. |
| 19:31 |
marytheminer |
TREPCA IS NOT INCLUDED IN THE SERVERLIST!!!! :(((((( |
| 19:31 |
ElectronLibre |
marytheminer, http://www.minetest.net/servers is maybe more readable. |
| 19:31 |
ElectronLibre |
And yes, let est31 explain. |
| 19:31 |
marytheminer |
and i am a GIRL |
| 19:32 |
marytheminer |
ok i will go check that out too. |
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| 19:33 |
marytheminer |
it's not there :(( |
| 19:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Well if it wasn't in the previous one there was no chance it could be in this one. |
| 19:34 |
ElectronLibre |
Ask est31. |
| 19:34 |
marytheminer |
does anyone have a list of the mods trepca uses? |
| 19:34 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/SNTDr05x/Ta3wRLyk |
| 19:34 |
ElectronLibre |
He should, he hosts it if I understood well. |
| 19:34 |
marytheminer |
est1? |
| 19:34 |
marytheminer |
are you there? |
| 19:34 |
est31 |
a list of mods? |
| 19:35 |
est31 |
you'll get it ofc |
| 19:35 |
marytheminer |
what's ofc? |
| 19:35 |
ElectronLibre |
"OF Course" maybe. |
| 19:35 |
est31 |
^ |
| 19:35 |
marytheminer |
okay. |
| 19:35 |
ElectronLibre |
It's sometimes really hard to guess but very often easy to figure out. |
| 19:36 |
marytheminer |
:) |
| 19:37 |
marytheminer |
i gotta leave now but if you would post it ill read it later in the log. |
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| 19:37 |
marytheminer |
thanks. |
| 19:39 |
ElectronLibre |
Trepka is in it. |
| 19:39 |
est31 |
anvil, areas, bags, blocked_usernames, carts, craft_guide, currency, farming, homedecor_modpack, hud, inventory_plus, irc, irc_commands, item_tweaks, kickall, letters, markers, Minetest-WorldEdit, mobs, moreblocks, moreores, player_textures, protector (protector block is disabled, but protected doors can be placed), skins, spawn, travelnet, xban2 |
| 19:39 |
ElectronLibre |
s/trepka/trepca |
| 19:39 |
ElectronLibre |
You just need to scroll down and click "more". |
| 19:41 |
Telesight |
Someone any clue: It takes on one laptop a while to load the Object textures from a local (LAN) server, while other laptops are quickly logged in ... |
| 19:41 |
ElectronLibre |
Telesight, is the one lagging configured not to preload textures? |
| 19:42 |
Telesight |
Electron: let me see ... |
| 19:43 |
Telesight |
Is that a setting in the client? |
| 19:44 |
ElectronLibre |
Wait. |
| 19:44 |
ElectronLibre |
Which version are you using? |
| 19:44 |
Telesight |
0.4.12 |
| 19:44 |
Telesight |
Client and the server |
| 19:45 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, then the client doesn't preload textures.. Which step does take long exactly? Media? |
| 19:45 |
Telesight |
Object textures |
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ElectronLibre |
I don't know this one ._. ... Honestly, I don't have a clue there, sorry. |
| 19:47 |
Telesight |
I installed 0.4.12 this day |
| 19:47 |
Telesight |
But also on theother laptops |
| 19:48 |
Telesight |
so there must be no difference (in theory ;-) |
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CWz |
hey Wayward_Tab |
| 19:53 |
Telesight |
Electron: Yes it is the last step Object textures that takes minutes ... |
| 19:53 |
Telesight |
Just test it ... |
| 19:55 |
ElectronLibre |
It doesn't. I get stuck at "Medias.." for about 40 seconds, then "Initializing Nodes" for about 10 seconds, and that's it. |
| 19:56 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, I'm on a local server, so maybe you're getting stuck at "Medias" (about before the middle of the bar) because the connection is slow. Also, remember that the first connection usually takes longer than the ones which will follow. |
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Telesight |
I log in on a local (LAN) server, the other laptops log in normal |
| 19:58 |
Telesight |
So the connection is not a problem .. |
| 19:59 |
Telesight |
I just tested it again .. |
| 20:00 |
ElectronLibre |
Well, maybe the computer is slower parsing the datas. |
| 20:01 |
Telesight |
It is a i7 ;-) |
| 20:01 |
ElectronLibre |
So, NO IDEA. |
| 20:01 |
ElectronLibre |
I still think it might be because it's the first connection, but no sure. |
| 20:02 |
Telesight |
It takes long every login ... |
| 20:02 |
ElectronLibre |
Differences between compilers used, 32/64 bits, OS, etc.. All of this might be related. |
| 20:03 |
Telesight |
hmm |
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VanessaE |
sounds like "preload item visuals" is enabled on the client. |
| 20:03 |
ElectronLibre |
VanessaE, 0.4.12. |
| 20:03 |
ElectronLibre |
It shouldn't. |
| 20:03 |
VanessaE |
it would if his config is from an older version that had that turned on |
| 20:04 |
Telesight |
Yes that is possible ... moment I will check ... |
| 20:04 |
ElectronLibre |
Telesight, look into minetest.conf for this parameter. |
| 20:05 |
Telesight |
Thanks I will do give me a second ... |
| 20:06 |
Telesight |
Result: preload_item_visuals = 1 |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
that's it. |
| 20:06 |
VanessaE |
set that to 0 or just delete the line altogether. |
| 20:06 |
Telesight |
Moment ... |
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Telesight |
Bammm .... |
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Telesight |
0,001seconds |
| 20:08 |
Telesight |
Thanks ... |
| 20:08 |
Telesight |
I set it to 0 |
| 20:09 |
ElectronLibre |
Damn old config files. |
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VanessaE |
I warned the core devs about this.. :P |
| 20:11 |
Telesight |
I had a feeling that it must be a setting " somewhere" but I am not experienced with Minetest ... |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
jesus died on my server |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
:( |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
good. :) |
| 20:11 |
VanessaE |
now they can finally bury the SoB ;) |
| 20:12 |
Jordach_ |
http://niceme.me |
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Jordach_ |
mfw Calinou is religious |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
https://lut.im/6pNK99u6/wa5lf3Gl |
| 20:12 |
Telesight |
Is your server called Roman Empire ... |
| 20:12 |
Calinou |
Jordach_, check out https://github.com/Calinou/fps-test |
| 20:12 |
ElectronLibre |
No, he is right. |
| 20:13 |
ElectronLibre |
A player called Jesus died on his server. |
| 20:13 |
Jordach_ |
Telesight, http://niceme.me |
| 20:14 |
Wayward_Tab |
Oh, hi CWz :) |
| 20:15 |
CWz |
an inchraless Wayward_Tab |
| 20:15 |
Telesight |
When you install a Minetest server, do you have to finetune it? (change settings to not overload your server) |
| 20:16 |
VanessaE |
depends on the mods you run |
| 20:16 |
VanessaE |
you might, for example, turn the active block range down |
| 20:16 |
VanessaE |
or adjust the network settings to maximize your throughput |
| 20:17 |
Telesight |
Ok I deinstalled a serie of mods but the difference on my cpu usage was not big ... |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
it won't be, initially |
| 20:17 |
VanessaE |
but some mods are CPU hogs, by their nature |
| 20:18 |
Telesight |
Pollers ... |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=1825 |
| 20:19 |
Telesight |
Calinou: Ah great ... |
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Telesight |
I do not think the bandwith will be a problem ... |
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Telesight |
100 Mbps must be enough .. |
| 20:25 |
Telesight |
But the CPU can be the bottleneck |
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* Sokomine |
stares at a cart and thinks that it is particulary uncooperative |
| 20:56 |
VanessaE |
just give it a good, swift kick |
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Sokomine |
doesn't really help. it still sucks up all the air there is :( |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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marytheminer |
hi is est1 there? |
| 21:18 |
marytheminer |
i guess not :( |
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marytheminer |
im leaving now bye! |
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| 21:20 |
YvesLevier |
Hey :) i had to move my OS to another disk |
| 21:20 |
YvesLevier |
Using U14.04 |
| 21:20 |
YvesLevier |
My disk was dead. Im server. |
| 21:21 |
YvesLevier |
Now it seems that my clients dont share the same release |
| 21:21 |
YvesLevier |
is that tell you something? |
| 21:22 |
VanessaE |
turn off strict version checking |
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| 21:22 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: where? |
| 21:23 |
YvesLevier |
How? |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
in your server's .conf |
| 21:23 |
YvesLevier |
lemme see |
| 21:23 |
YvesLevier |
thx VanE |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
strict_protocol_version_checking = false |
| 21:23 |
VanessaE |
normally it defaults to false anyway |
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| 21:25 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: What do a servers'conf look like at plz? |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
it's just minetest.conf |
| 21:26 |
VanessaE |
or whatever you named it |
| 21:26 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: on it |
| 21:28 |
YvesLevier |
i dont see a minetest.conf that have a strict_pro..... in it |
| 21:29 |
YvesLevier |
but i must warn i copied my old Desktop/Minetest and |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
that shouldn't matter |
| 21:29 |
VanessaE |
I don't recall anyone saying the protocol was changed incompatibly |
| 21:29 |
YvesLevier |
.minetest over my new computer after i reintalled |
| 21:29 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: VanE??? |
| 21:30 |
VanessaE |
try updating your server build then |
| 21:30 |
YvesLevier |
Having 2 disks. No 1 about to die and No 2 is virging |
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| 21:30 |
YvesLevier |
ready to follow e-v-e-r-y of your orders |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: I have very little to suggest here honestly |
| 21:31 |
VanessaE |
try upgrading to git HEAD and build it yourself, or downgrade to your previous version |
| 21:32 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Thats the problem. How to get to my original version using the same script? |
| 21:32 |
YvesLevier |
i mean reinstalling the whole Ubuntu if necessary |
| 21:32 |
VanessaE |
you don't use a script, directly. |
| 21:32 |
YvesLevier |
listening |
| 21:33 |
VanessaE |
rather, git reset --hard <some commit ID where you know it worked> |
| 21:33 |
VanessaE |
and then build it |
| 21:34 |
YvesLevier |
is there someone less intelligent to explain me that plz% |
| 21:34 |
YvesLevier |
? |
| 21:34 |
YvesLevier |
What do i exactly have to do plz |
| 21:34 |
YvesLevier |
consider me dummy |
| 21:34 |
YvesLevier |
plz |
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| 21:35 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: ^ |
| 21:35 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 21:37 |
YvesLevier |
To make short, i would want to reinstall the old release then only copy my old .minetest and /Desktop/Minetest to the new disk. Looks reasonable? |
| 21:37 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: VanE? |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
I got nothin', man :) |
| 21:38 |
VanessaE |
your plan is good, but if you can't use git commands to pick a working commit, I don't know how else to help you |
| 21:38 |
Sokomine |
YvesLevier: hm, vanessae usually explains it pretty well and dummy-friendly. i often consult her when i'm fighting with git |
| 21:39 |
VanessaE |
you SHOULD be able to just copy *everything* over from the old disk though |
| 21:39 |
VanessaE |
including Minetest iself |
| 21:39 |
Sokomine |
YvesLevier: perhaps you might just clone the repro anew. that might be easiest |
| 21:40 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Sokomine: then i uninstall minetest. Then i just copy the folders? |
| 21:40 |
YvesLevier |
i tried. |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: no |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
you just copy all of it |
| 21:40 |
YvesLevier |
listening |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
or yeah |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
you can uninstall the not-working copy |
| 21:40 |
YvesLevier |
... |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
then bring your working one over from the old disk |
| 21:40 |
YvesLevier |
listening |
| 21:40 |
YvesLevier |
listening |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
that's all. |
| 21:40 |
VanessaE |
just copy it. |
| 21:41 |
YvesLevier |
will |
| 21:41 |
YvesLevier |
< |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
any idea what commit ID you're at? |
| 21:41 |
YvesLevier |
whats that? |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
run the "not working" game and tell me what it says in the upper left corner of the window |
| 21:41 |
YvesLevier |
Good brb |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
"Minetest 0.4.12-gblahblahblah" |
| 21:41 |
VanessaE |
I need to know the "blahblahblah" part. |
| 21:42 |
YvesLevier |
kk |
| 21:42 |
YvesLevier |
before reinstall? |
| 21:42 |
YvesLevier |
you mean now? |
| 21:42 |
VanessaE |
just whichever one isn't working |
| 21:42 |
YvesLevier |
easy enough brb |
| 21:43 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: it works only one i disabled EVERY mods |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
er.. |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
now I'm confused |
| 21:44 |
VanessaE |
I thought you said clients couldn't connect anymore? |
| 21:45 |
YvesLevier |
me neither as long i... well... i try uninstall all then copy folders |
| 21:45 |
YvesLevier |
and i cant you your gblahahahahalbla |
| 21:45 |
YvesLevier |
brb |
| 21:46 |
YvesLevier |
*see |
| 21:46 |
VanessaE |
it'll be right there on the main menu screen |
| 21:46 |
VanessaE |
upper left corner of the window |
| 21:48 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: i used synaptics. No more minetest on my computer out of the old folders i can place in /home/.minetest and /home/Desktop/Minetest |
| 21:49 |
YvesLevier |
am i on the right waY? |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
OH G*d, you're using a really old version if you're getting it from the system repository |
| 21:49 |
VanessaE |
did you remember to add the daily-builds PPA? |
| 21:49 |
YvesLevier |
??? |
| 21:49 |
YvesLevier |
Im french my friend |
| 21:50 |
YvesLevier |
when you talk chineese |
| 21:50 |
YvesLevier |
i get very lost |
| 21:50 |
YvesLevier |
;) |
| 21:50 |
VanessaE |
ok ok |
| 21:50 |
VanessaE |
starting over :P |
| 21:50 |
YvesLevier |
Good |
| 21:50 |
VanessaE |
you uninstalled minetest from your machine? |
| 21:50 |
YvesLevier |
YES |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
ok, copy your data folders over -- worlds, mods, etc etc. |
| 21:51 |
YvesLevier |
Take your time VanE im vanished anyway |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
then run this: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds ; sudo apt-get install minetest |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
(close synaptic first) |
| 21:51 |
YvesLevier |
copy folders first |
| 21:51 |
VanessaE |
copy first or last, doesn't matter |
| 21:51 |
YvesLevier |
(symaptic closed) |
| 21:51 |
YvesLevier |
then sudo... and all okie |
| 21:52 |
YvesLevier |
im copying folders now. Both. .minetest and Minetest |
| 21:52 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 21:53 |
YvesLevier |
done |
| 21:53 |
VanessaE |
ok run the sudo... line |
| 21:53 |
YvesLevier |
now i : "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:minetestdevs/daily-builds ; sudo apt-get install minetest" |
| 21:54 |
YvesLevier |
told "y" at you want to continue? |
| 21:54 |
VanessaE |
yeah |
| 21:55 |
YvesLevier |
end |
| 21:55 |
YvesLevier |
no errors |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
ok, you have some script that you use to start your server, yes? |
| 21:55 |
YvesLevier |
treatment declenched (how to tell that in english) |
| 21:55 |
VanessaE |
a "keep alive" script I mean? |
| 21:56 |
YvesLevier |
i kept my old script |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
paste-bin it. |
| 21:56 |
YvesLevier |
what that mean "paste-bin"? |
| 21:56 |
YvesLevier |
sry |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
load your script into an editor, copy it, paste the contents to someplace like pastebin.ubuntu.com or so |
| 21:56 |
VanessaE |
!pastebin |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
*pokes the bot* |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
!g pastebin |
| 21:57 |
MinetestBot |
VanessaE: http://pastebin.com/ |
| 21:57 |
VanessaE |
well that's one also :P |
| 21:57 |
YvesLevier |
Ahhhhhhhhhrg |
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| 21:57 |
YvesLevier |
i feel i can see :P |
| 21:58 |
LandMine |
WASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSUPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP |
| 21:58 |
LandMine |
longtime no see peeps |
| 21:58 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: now give me the link to the paste you just made |
| 21:58 |
YvesLevier |
Hey LandMine |
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| 21:59 |
YvesLevier |
Van, may i use .... nevermind< |
| 21:59 |
LandMine |
hi VanessaE, hi YvesLeiver |
| 21:59 |
YvesLevier |
Dropbox? |
| 21:59 |
YvesLevier |
email? |
| 21:59 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: its a small file VanE |
| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: just use a pastebin |
| 22:00 |
YvesLevier |
pastebin is asking me too many questions |
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| 22:00 |
VanessaE |
go to pastebin.com, paste your text there and hit "submit"? |
| 22:00 |
YvesLevier |
do i make an account to use it? |
| 22:00 |
YvesLevier |
k |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
you don't need an account to paste |
| 22:01 |
LandMine |
how have you been vanessa? long time no see |
| 22:01 |
LandMine |
or read? |
| 22:01 |
VanessaE |
been okay. |
| 22:01 |
YvesLevier |
it wants i install a lot |
| 22:01 |
YvesLevier |
good !!!!! |
| 22:01 |
YvesLevier |
god |
| 22:01 |
init |
use dpaste |
| 22:02 |
YvesLevier |
you got it? |
| 22:02 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: you don't need to install anything to use a pastebin |
| 22:02 |
YvesLevier |
its telling me i need a TD insurance |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
WAT |
| 22:03 |
YvesLevier |
thx |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
you're on a BAD site |
| 22:03 |
YvesLevier |
dont worry |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
get away NOW |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
or you've got popup ads |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
go to pastebin.ubuntu.com |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
afaik it's clean |
| 22:03 |
YvesLevier |
good |
| 22:03 |
VanessaE |
put your paste there and give the URL of it |
| 22:04 |
Pilcrow |
http://dpaste.com/ is also clean; no adds. |
| 22:04 |
Pilcrow |
*ads? |
| 22:04 |
VanessaE |
ads. |
| 22:04 |
Pilcrow |
lol |
| 22:04 |
LandMine |
Vanessa do you know why the main page on minetest.net always makes my AV pop up |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
LandMine: no idea. |
| 22:05 |
Pilcrow |
that's strange, LandMine... |
| 22:05 |
LandMine |
have others mentiones this/ |
| 22:05 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: looks much more honest lol |
| 22:05 |
VanessaE |
LandMine: not to my knowledge |
| 22:05 |
YvesLevier |
i love your "get away NOW" |
| 22:07 |
Pilcrow |
YvesLevier: pastebin is usually pretty decent, but bad adds and popups can sometimes sneak through... :P |
| 22:07 |
Pilcrow |
*ads |
| 22:07 |
Pilcrow |
-_- |
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| 22:08 |
VanessaE |
get a proper adblocker :) |
| 22:08 |
Pilcrow |
^ I do, but some people don't? :P |
| 22:08 |
LandMine |
what do you use pilcrow? i use peerblock |
| 22:09 |
VanessaE |
Adblock Plus is enough to counter 99% of ads out there |
| 22:09 |
YvesLevier |
New disk. Adblock not installed yet |
| 22:10 |
YvesLevier |
of course ill |
| 22:11 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: how about what i sent to you VanE |
| 22:11 |
VanessaE |
sent what? |
| 22:12 |
Pilcrow |
LandMine: well, I actually use the built-in ad blocker in Opera. it's a little more work, but works great once you have it configured. Firefox has gotten way too bloated for me, and I never liked chrome, so I make do with Opera... |
| 22:12 |
VanessaE |
I use chromium (not chrome) here. firefox sucks. |
| 22:13 |
YvesLevier |
did you get the script you told me to send to you |
| 22:13 |
VanessaE |
no, you didn't give me the URL for the paste |
| 22:13 |
YvesLevier |
looking again |
| 22:14 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/11336494/ |
| 22:14 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 22:14 |
LandMine |
VanessaE im thinking about getting a server going like in the old days, but the host i used is out of business, do you recommend any service? |
| 22:14 |
VanessaE |
LandMine: try linode or hetzner online AG |
| 22:14 |
VanessaE |
depending on your needs |
| 22:15 |
VanessaE |
I use a dedicated server out of Hetzner, myself |
| 22:15 |
LandMine |
i look into them thanks |
| 22:15 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: oh, this is your compile script. |
| 22:15 |
YvesLevier |
yes? |
| 22:15 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: I need the script you use to *run* the server |
| 22:17 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: thats the same if im my own client on server : cd Desktop then ./Minetest/bin/minetest |
| 22:18 |
LandMine |
VanessaE can i PM you? i want to ask questions about the hosting |
| 22:18 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: or : minetestserver --worldname StCamille |
| 22:19 |
YvesLevier |
i know no other script |
| 22:19 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: AH and there is where your problem is then |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
you need to use /usr/bin/minetestserver --worldname StCamille |
| 22:20 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Plz plz tell me how to install it properly. New disk. Virgen. All up to your orders |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
otherwise you're trying to call upon that old build you carried over from the old drive |
| 22:20 |
YvesLevier |
i do it now? |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
when you're ready to launch your server yes |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
/usr/bin/minetestserver --worldname StCamille |
| 22:20 |
VanessaE |
that'll call upon the new version you just installed from the PPA. |
| 22:21 |
YvesLevier |
super user or not? |
| 22:21 |
VanessaE |
no |
| 22:21 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
| 22:21 |
VanessaE |
never use root. :) |
| 22:21 |
Pilcrow |
it's a bad idea to run things as super user unless you absolutely have to |
| 22:22 |
Pilcrow |
opens up your computer to all kinds of vulnerabilities |
| 22:22 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: file not found |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
wat |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: run: which minetestserver |
| 22:22 |
YvesLevier |
i must remember you i did uninstall |
| 22:22 |
VanessaE |
you installed the PPA, so it should BE there. |
| 22:23 |
LandMine |
OldCoder are you here ATM? |
| 22:23 |
YvesLevier |
do i run again the installation script i sent? |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: no. |
| 22:23 |
YvesLevier |
k |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: do this: which minetestserver |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
it should return a path |
| 22:24 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: replies nothing (out a prompt) |
| 22:24 |
VanessaE |
try, which minetest |
| 22:24 |
YvesLevier |
k |
| 22:25 |
Pilcrow |
lol VanessaE. I had typed exactly the same thing, to the letter, but then saw you say it. :P |
| 22:25 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: /usr/games/minetest |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
/usr/games ??? |
| 22:25 |
YvesLevier |
exact |
| 22:25 |
VanessaE |
wtf |
| 22:26 |
YvesLevier |
i cant say more |
| 22:26 |
OldCoder |
Hello |
| 22:26 |
YvesLevier |
^ |
| 22:26 |
YvesLevier |
Hey OldCoder :) |
| 22:26 |
OldCoder |
Announcing a much improved Hungry Games |
| 22:26 |
OldCoder |
For your demise don't OldCoder blames |
| 22:26 |
OldCoder |
Hello |
| 22:26 |
Pilcrow |
hi OldCoder. how are you today? well, I hope. :) |
| 22:26 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: ok this is a stupid idea.. but try: sudo apt-get install minetestserver |
| 22:26 |
OldCoder |
Pretty tired Pilcrow but I have made progress in a few things |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
Spent more time than I should have on a world |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
But it is relatively nice |
| 22:27 |
YvesLevier |
No idea is stupid to me atm. So then : "sudo apt-get install minetestserver" |
| 22:27 |
OldCoder |
For a deadly danger zone |
| 22:27 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: yeah, may as well see what it does -- it SHOULD fail |
| 22:27 |
LandMine |
Hey OldCoder can i Pm you/ |
| 22:28 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: cant find the pack |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: ok, that's expected. |
| 22:28 |
YvesLevier |
it told |
| 22:28 |
YvesLevier |
Good! |
| 22:28 |
VanessaE |
minetest --version |
| 22:29 |
Pilcrow |
I assume YvesLevier is on Ubuntu? |
| 22:29 |
YvesLevier |
Sure |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: just give me the first line from that command's output |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
Pilcrow: yeah, 14.04 I think he said |
| 22:29 |
YvesLevier |
Minetest 0.4.9 |
| 22:29 |
Pilcrow |
that's old |
| 22:29 |
Pilcrow |
wrong ppa? |
| 22:29 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: you didn't install the PPA then |
| 22:30 |
YvesLevier |
Im U14.04 |
| 22:30 |
VanessaE |
or you already had an old copy installed before you put in the PPA |
| 22:30 |
YvesLevier |
i just uninstalled using synaptics. Dont remember? |
| 22:30 |
VanessaE |
I thought you said this, yeah |
| 22:30 |
VanessaE |
OH wait |
| 22:30 |
VanessaE |
I remember! |
| 22:30 |
VanessaE |
derp |
| 22:30 |
YvesLevier |
np |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
sudo apt-get remove minetest ; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install minetest |
| 22:31 |
YvesLevier |
now i copied the folders ONLY |
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| 22:31 |
YvesLevier |
on it |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
I forgot to have you do that "update" command. |
| 22:31 |
YvesLevier |
its deleting |
| 22:31 |
YvesLevier |
plz wait |
| 22:31 |
VanessaE |
ok good |
| 22:32 |
YvesLevier |
looks downloading |
| 22:32 |
YvesLevier |
ended w/o any warning or error |
| 22:32 |
YvesLevier |
im at the prompt |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
ok good |
| 22:32 |
VanessaE |
minetest --version |
| 22:33 |
VanessaE |
it should respond, Minetest 0.4.12-dev-xxxxxx (for some commit ID xxxxxx) |
| 22:33 |
YvesLevier |
/usr/games/minetest: Aucun fichier ou dossier de ce type (no file of that type) |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
close your terminal a |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
and open a new one |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
then try again |
| 22:34 |
YvesLevier |
Minetest 0.4.12-dev |
| 22:34 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: IMPRESSED |
| 22:34 |
VanessaE |
ok good |
| 22:35 |
YvesLevier |
sorry caps |
| 22:35 |
VanessaE |
now we're cooking with gas :) |
| 22:35 |
VanessaE |
which minetestserver |
| 22:35 |
VanessaE |
see if that works now |
| 22:35 |
YvesLevier |
no reply |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
wat |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
ok fine... which minetest |
| 22:36 |
YvesLevier |
kk |
| 22:36 |
Pilcrow |
that's odd. doesn't minetestserver auto-build now? |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
Pilcrow: so I thought. |
| 22:36 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: /usr/bin/minetest |
| 22:36 |
VanessaE |
it does when you compile it yourself, for sure |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: ok good. |
| 22:37 |
YvesLevier |
<3 VanE |
| 22:37 |
VanessaE |
YvesLevier: /usr/bin/minetest --server --worldname StCamille |
| 22:38 |
YvesLevier |
VanessaE: Sarted |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
yay! |
| 22:38 |
YvesLevier |
:D |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
ok see if you can connect to it |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
from e.g. a client that wasn't working before |
| 22:38 |
YvesLevier |
Using /Minetest/bin/minetest? |
| 22:38 |
YvesLevier |
k |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
well you could try that, but first, |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
what's your IP? |
| 22:38 |
VanessaE |
I'll try it |
| 22:39 |
VanessaE |
msg it to me if you want |
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Pilcrow |
YvesLevier: it's not important, just a nice tip for irc, but the tab key auto-completes names. So if you type Van and press tab, you should get VanessaE's whole username fast... :) |
| 22:40 |
Pilcrow |
^ (easier than typing VanE, lol) |
| 22:48 |
OldCoder |
LandMine, yes. But I need to nap a bit now. I'll be on later. |
| 22:48 |
OldCoder |
VanessaE, Hi! Pilcrow thanks for chatting |
| 22:49 |
Pilcrow |
bye OldCoder. nice [seeing?] you! |
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| 22:52 |
ajaypay |
hey |
| 22:53 |
ajaypay |
anyone on right now? |
| 22:53 |
ajaypay |
?' |
| 22:54 |
ajaypay |
? |
| 22:54 |
ajaypay |
somany people on and none are talking |
| 22:54 |
ajaypay |
about minetest |
| 22:54 |
ajaypay |
bees |
| 22:55 |
ajaypay |
is there a way to make the smoker be the smokestack for a house? |
| 22:55 |
ajaypay |
in the bees mod |
| 22:56 |
ajaypay |
http://alket.mooo.com/map/#22/-763.00000/-2456.00000 |
| 22:57 |
ajaypay |
has anyone played on chess.com? just asking |
| 22:57 |
ajaypay |
Chess.com |
| 22:57 |
ajaypay |
it wont be a link. |
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Johnsen2 |
~whois Microchip |
| 23:11 |
ShadowBot |
Johnsen2: There is no microchip on freenode. |
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Pilcrow |
wow, I forgot how much I loved the old Starcraft I! Threw in a Starcraft64 cartrige at a friend's house on a whim and ended up playing it for like 4 hours even though it's horrible compared to PC... :P |
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