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turtleman_ |
anyone here play voxelgarden? |
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turtleman_ |
im really lost on how to make my first tools :S |
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turtleman_ |
i can make sticks... but i cant get wood |
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VanessaE |
not familiar with it |
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VanessaE |
oh right |
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VanessaE |
it's another one of those android clones |
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VanessaE |
should be the same as any other basic Minetest game - try finding some trees, punch to dig the trunks, craft trunks -> wood -> sticks |
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VanessaE |
use wood and sticks to make basic tools |
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VanessaE |
should be the same recipes you might find in Minecraft, for example |
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VanessaE |
at least to start |
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VanessaE |
e.g. three wood across the top, two sticks down the middle below those, makes a pick |
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VanessaE |
unless |
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VanessaE |
unless they changed the game I mean, but it doesn't look like they did. |
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turtleman_ |
voxelgarden? no |
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turtleman_ |
its not a clone afaik |
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turtleman_ |
its a different game, like a total conversion i guess |
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turtleman_ |
it uses the same software |
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turtleman_ |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=6346 |
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turtleman_ |
the recipes are totally different |
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turtleman_ |
like |
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turtleman_ |
combining leaves will make sticks. |
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turtleman_ |
there is a recipe book, but i cant figure out how to get wood because punching trees doesnt work. |
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VanessaE |
interesting. |
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VanessaE |
well it's the same Minetest engine at least, but a different sub-game as we call it. |
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turtleman_ |
i see |
| 02:01 |
turtleman_ |
yeah ive been trying out a bunch of different subgames today. some are pretty unique, like wasteland. |
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VanessaE |
play dreambuilder. :) |
| 02:02 |
VanessaE |
and yeah, there's an android clone that uses voxelgarden as its default game: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.abc.nodetest |
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VanessaE |
(it's really just a copy of Buildcrap, as I understand) |
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VanessaE |
interesting set of mods for the game though |
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turtleman_ |
hmm i see |
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zat |
I once installed it and couldn't get it to run ¬¬ |
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zat |
!cat |
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MinetestBot |
http://i.imgur.com/RoCxCms.jpg |
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RentedMule |
there's a wasteland subgame for minetest? |
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turtleman_ |
yep |
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zat |
guys who is currently maintaining or just improving mapgen v7? |
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VanessaE |
zat: he is. *points at hmmmm* |
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Sokomine |
hmmmms explanations about mapgen (v6) have been really helpful |
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Inocudom |
Sfan5, are you still working on your fork of mapgen v5? |
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Inocudom |
Because proller added mapgen v5 to Freeminer, so he could benefit from anything you did with it. |
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Inocudom |
Bye. |
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VanessaE |
I hate when people do that. |
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turtleman_ |
i confess i have done that before |
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turtleman_ |
although usually its more than four minutes :P |
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VanessaE |
heh |
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VanessaE |
the way I figure it, if your PC is on at all, you may as well have your IRC client open |
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VanessaE |
it's not like it takes a significant amount of resources to leave it running. |
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RentedMule |
yeah, pretty much |
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turtleman_ |
well for me its usually because i have somewhere to be |
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turtleman_ |
and dont want my computer plugged in while im gone. |
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VanessaE |
meh.. mine's always plugged in |
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hmmmm |
Sokomine: that's how all mapgens work |
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hmmmm |
even if a future mapgen doesn't take advantage of the neighbor blocks being loaded in the voxelmanipulator, it'll still be there |
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hmmmm |
I guess we can make sort of a mapgen spec |
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sfan5 |
!tell Inocudom that branch wasn't mapgen v5, just an old v6. |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: I'll pass that on when Inocudom is around |
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blaise |
hrmm |
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blaise |
I wonder how we would spawn a creeper in minetest |
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VanessaE |
why would you want to? |
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VanessaE |
a creeper is a minecraft MOB |
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VanessaE |
invent something unique for minetest instead. |
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VanessaE |
and you'd spawn one same as anything else, by deciding what conditions under which a MOB should appear - light, some ground surface, nearness to some other node like a tree or a hillside, etc., and then you just spawn the entity and activate your code to control it |
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handyandy |
Hello all, new to hosting server. Hackers are coming in with TNT. Can I disable TNT? Can't find it with Google. Thanks |
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Megaf |
Hi all |
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Megaf |
WorldEdit is causing some crashes, https://github.com/Uberi/Minetest-WorldEdit/issues/58 |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Calinou commited to minetest/minetest_game: Make sand and some leaves sounds quieter 49a8ddc 2014-08-22T11:52:51+02:00 http://git.io/6C9SbQ |
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Megaf |
Hi VanessaE |
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Megaf |
Can you tell me if Pipeworks is fixed? |
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VanessaE |
it's hacked. |
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VanessaE |
the root issue that caused the out-of-range position has not been fixed, but some code was added that should stop that crash you had, plus another crash that someone else ran into in the meantime |
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VanessaE |
nore said it will be a while before he can fix the issue properly |
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Jordach |
eh |
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Jordach |
wat |
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VanessaE |
what wat? |
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Jordach |
[13:03:43] <VanessaE> it's hacked. |
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VanessaE |
Jordach: a bug in pipeworks :) |
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VanessaE |
I literally mean a hack I added to sidestep the actual bug :) |
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Jordach |
and steam client update :D |
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catminer |
hi |
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catminer |
i have a problem with PROTOCOL VERSION, can somebody tell me where to find a newer minetest version? |
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turtleman_ |
hello |
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jin_xi |
hi turtleman_ |
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jp |
the MT icon seem broken on Linux since the lastest 3 dev-releases... |
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Calinou |
jp, there has been a commit that tries to fix icon in .desktop file |
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jp |
that was for Windows iirc |
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Jordach |
jp, .desktop is GNOME related, not WinXX |
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jp |
ok |
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blaise |
what mob mod has creepers? |
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Amaz |
mobf has something like creepers. |
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NakedFury |
hello |
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Amaz |
Calinou, when I set a skin with a cape in Carbone for myself, the cape doesn't work... |
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Jordach |
Amaz, likely an older model |
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Amaz |
I think this is something to do with 3d_armor? |
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Jordach |
Amaz, 3d armour uses a differing model |
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Jordach |
sadly :( |
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Jordach |
broke ass because Stu doesn't update |
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Amaz |
:( |
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Amaz |
Yeah it is... |
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Amaz |
When I delete 3d armor, the cape shows. |
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Amaz |
Any idea how to fix it? Or would the require a new model? |
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Calinou |
old model, without capes |
| 17:41 |
Calinou |
I use 3d armor |
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Calinou |
can't use both armor and cape, makes no sense |
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* Amaz |
wanted to add a cape piece of armor.... |
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blaise |
the 3d_armor mod has six places for items |
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blaise |
I've only managed to use 5 |
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blaise |
maybe that's for a cape? |
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Amaz |
That's the reason I wanted to be able to add a cape piece of armor, for the 6th slot. |
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blaise |
what does go in the sixth slot? |
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Amaz |
Nothing atm |
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blaise |
lol |
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blaise |
invisible underwear |
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Calinou |
you can put more than 1 armor piece |
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Calinou |
it'll be used as a replacement if the other one breaks |
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Calinou |
top-left slot has highest priority |
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Calinou |
so I suggest putting a second helmet or boots if you have material |
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Calinou |
GIMP 2.8.14 is out |
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Jordach |
GIMP 2.8.x lost all credibility with removing Save As and replacing it with Export with a differing key and normal saving tries to lock you into xcf instead |
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ulla81 |
hi vanessae |
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ulla81 |
o no have some peapole want help me ? |
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Calinou |
it's not lock-in |
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Calinou |
Jordach, Blender does the exact same thing |
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Jordach |
Calinou, and? |
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Jordach |
3D modeling is different |
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Jordach |
common image formats make this worse |
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VanessaE |
when you're working with an image, there's a very high probability (75% or better I would say) that you do NOT want to save some damn project file |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
you just want to save the image. |
| 19:02 |
VanessaE |
open a file, edit a few pixels, save. |
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VanessaE |
it used to be that easy. |
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Amaz |
For me, 99.9% chance that I want to save the image. |
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VanessaE |
now it's open, edit, sav...wait, export...what? overwrite? well sure, okay but I knew I was doing that... um why are you asking me for the compression level again? just save the fucking thing! |
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Jordach |
VanessaE, and this is why on Linux systems i manually compile 2.6.x |
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VanessaE |
the latest gimp improved it VERY marginally by offering to take you to the export dialog if you try to "save as" a file and you give it an extension other than XCF |
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Jordach |
psh |
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Jordach |
Photoshop does a goddamn better job with alternate file formats |
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VanessaE |
sad. |
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VanessaE |
this is NOT hard to do |
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VanessaE |
but the GIMP team has expressly said they don't want to change this |
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Calinou |
<Jordach> 3D modeling is different |
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Calinou |
or not |
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Calinou |
no game engine uses .blend |
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VanessaE |
so this is pure 100% stubbornness and arrogance |
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Jordach |
Calinou, Unity3D eats |
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Jordach |
it* |
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Calinou |
GIMP's decision was rational and I welcome it quite a bit |
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Jordach |
pfft |
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Calinou |
probably a very bad idea to ues .blend in a game engine |
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Calinou |
it's a source format |
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Jordach |
and you wonder why OSS never gets anywhere |
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Calinou |
it's like wanting to run .c intepreted |
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Jordach |
too many hoops for basic jobs |
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Calinou |
that's surely not a reason |
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Calinou |
proprietary software also suffers from that |
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Jordach |
i want to do x not yz123456 |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
“Hello, enter your serial key†|
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Jordach |
Calinou, ask GabeN |
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Calinou |
BTW there's an Overwrite button in GIMP, in the File menu |
| 19:11 |
Calinou |
sadly, no key is bound by default… |
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Calinou |
which destroys a lot of its purpose |
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Calinou |
some custom builds of GIMP don't ask when closing, if you saved in .png format |
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VanessaE |
Calinou: even if you use the overwrite key, it doesn't overwrite. |
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VanessaE |
not on the first save. |
| 19:12 |
VanessaE |
that's where the big fuckup is. |
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VanessaE |
it STILL prompts you to overwrite and set your compression etc settings |
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VanessaE |
just save the G*d damned file! |
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VanessaE |
this is NOT the way to do things when you have 50 files open |
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Jordach |
Calinou, again, this is the same reason why OSS hasn't taken off in the consumer area (except Android, which really isn't) |
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Jordach |
may have taken of for Corporate IT, but not consumer home |
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Calinou |
lolwat |
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Jordach |
Calinou, let's see, the cheap Linux based VPS', clouds, bots |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: Androis is not open source? |
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sfan5 |
Android* |
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Calinou |
can't really be considered so |
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Calinou |
developed behind closed doors, tons of proprietary extensions and drivers |
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Calinou |
Google Play gives zero f*cks |
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Amaz |
sfan5, do you work on worldedit? |
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Calinou |
he made it |
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Amaz |
Okay. Is it possible to add a copy paste command? So you select an area, //copy //p set1 //paste |
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VanessaE |
Amaz: use //save and //load to do that |
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Amaz |
Okay, but that saves a file permanently, right? |
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VanessaE |
yeah |
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Amaz |
Okay... |
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blaise |
I'm getting crap tons of not on slider:default:dirt_with_grass │ |
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blaise |
in my logs |
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iqualfragile |
blaise: you get crap tons of what? |
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blaise |
not on slider:default:dirt_with_grass │ |
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iqualfragile |
wtf? |
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iqualfragile |
so like "not on slider:default:dirt_with_grass" |
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blaise |
yar |
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shadowzone |
Hi. |
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Miner_48er |
what are the requirements for curl setup? |
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VanessaE |
just to have libcurl installed when you compile |
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Miner_48er |
server setup? |
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VanessaE |
libcurl4-gnutls-dev or libcurl4-openssl-dev in the case of xubuntu. |
| 20:34 |
VanessaE |
just install one of those and repeat the cmake/make commands as usual |
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VanessaE |
oh you mean for remote media? |
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Miner_48er |
yes |
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VanessaE |
you need to have a web server like nginx or lighttpd running |
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VanessaE |
set it up to serve minetest media from somewhere, copy your minetest server's media to that dir. |
| 20:36 |
VanessaE |
and set in your minetest server's config, remote_media = http://the.url.to/that-folder/ |
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iqualfragile |
these days you need to/shoud generate an index, too |
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iqualfragile |
(no idea how to do that, maybe there is something in tools) |
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VanessaE |
you don't need an index. |
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VanessaE |
though some folks prefer it. |
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Miner_48er |
has anyone tried using google drive for that? |
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VanessaE |
hah |
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VanessaE |
I doubt that would work |
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Miner_48er |
what problems would there be? |
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VanessaE |
speed for one |
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VanessaE |
you're gonna be fetching lots of small files |
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VanessaE |
sites like that don't cater well to that |
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VanessaE |
(they're more for sharing large files, so the latency will kill you) |
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VanessaE |
plus I could see google blocking your account for suspicious activity as well |
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VanessaE |
that kind of use might be against their ToS. |
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iqualfragile |
i think the index might speed things up, especially latency-wise |
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iqualfragile |
but then again i have not really looked at that whole thing in depths |
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iqualfragile |
*depth |
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iqualfragile |
good night |
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Calinou |
http://www.partha.com/ |
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Calinou |
check out this for GIMP builds, Jordach ? |
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Calinou |
but not 2.8.14 yet |
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minetester |
hi |
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PilzAdam |
Jordach, I played your game a bit |
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PilzAdam |
there are basically 2 things I noticed: 1) I needed to create several worlds in order to not spawn in gigantic ocean with no land at all 2) I get the feeling that the goal of the game is to mine coal, since there is no hint whatsoever that there is anything beyond that |
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VanessaE |
inb4 PilzAdam also says that there are too many non-cubic nodes ;-) |
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Jordach |
OW MY EYES |
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* Jordach |
just came back from the local pub |
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Jordach |
PilzAdam, they're set to the 0.2/3 era levels |
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LemonLake |
Jordach: Your eyes? |
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PilzAdam |
also why did starting a singleplayer game became so horribly slow? |
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PilzAdam |
and why does Minetest use 1 GiB RAM in the main menu? |
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Jordach_ |
what did i miss |
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