IRC log for #minetest, 2014-07-10

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01:01	Zeno`	silly microphone doesn't work. /me eats it
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01:29	WindHero	lol
01:31	WindHero	gotta learn to /away when I'm watching anime :P
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01:55	Eater4	sfan5?
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02:21	* cheapie	pokes Zeno`
02:21	cheapie	sfan5 is ready for you.
02:22	Eater4	Until I see sfan5 say something about my server and interact, the answer will be no
02:32	cheapie	Looks like he disappeared.
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03:32	Megaf	[18:20:28] <thefamilygrog66> Is this normal for 0.4.10-dev? http://i.imgur.com/dFkRCdh.png
03:32	Megaf	I saw that already on older versions too
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03:38	VanessaE	Megaf: it helps if you answer peoples' questions while they're still here :P
03:38	Megaf	VanessaE; oh, I'm not sure, sapier will always get things I write while he is offline, I don't know how he does that
03:39	Megaf	Perhaps he reads the log
03:39	Megaf	:P
03:39	Megaf	All people could do that too!
03:39	VanessaE	he reads the log but idk if grog does.
03:39	VanessaE	most people don't.
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04:35	JesseH	My sand wall with cactus on top is complete, now to let the cactus grow.
04:41	JesseH	http://www.thehorne.com/pics/minetest1.png
04:49	emerge	nice
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05:12	JesseH	I have a ladder so high in this game that to finish putting ladders all the way up, it will be faster for me to create a platform where I am now and grow some trees to get the wood ill need.
05:13	JesseH	Or I could go back down, grab some wood, and come back up. :P
05:32	emerge	Once I made game make me ladder using this formula -- y=x
05:32	emerge	It was big..
05:34	VanessaE	sfan5: nu, eppes fÃ¼r yomtov? merge nore's ingot textures already :)
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06:28	JesseH	emerge, ;P
06:28	LemonLake	eemeerrgeeee
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07:07	sfan5	cheapie: I need to sleep too..
07:07	cheapie	sfan5: OK... how does that involve me?
07:07	sfan5	<cheapie> sfan5 is ready for you.
07:07	sfan5	<cheapie> Looks like he disappeared.
07:08	cheapie	Yes, I was trying to get Zeno`'s attention.
07:08	cheapie	I don't know where he went now.
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07:10	sfan5	!tell BlockMen https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9688&start=25#p147914
07:10	MinetestBot	sfan5: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around
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07:10	sfan5	meow
07:10	sfan5	hi everyone and Calinou
07:11	jp	hi
07:11	emerge	JesseH, what?
07:11	JesseH	" Once I made game make me ladder using this formula -- y=x"
07:12	emerge	yep
07:12	nore	sfan5, so, do you think the new ingots look good?
07:12	emerge	and also you can do y=(1/10)*x and get a world slightly inclined
07:12	sfan5	nore: yay
07:12	sfan5	yes*
07:12	Calinou	hi
07:12	Calinou	sfan5, yes they do
07:12	nore	hi
07:12	Calinou	added them to Carbone and More Ores
07:13	emerge	JesseH, It's also fun to do this with parabolic function.
07:13	emerge	It will make something like a hill.
07:13	nore	well, you need to thank BlockMen and VanessaE too
07:14	nore	BlockMen did the original ingot I modified, and VanessaE used the first ingot I drew to make the others :)
07:14	* VanessaE	has mad gimp re-coloring skillz ;)
07:14	Calinou	ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404)
07:15	Calinou	I got this while connecting to mostly-vanilla server
07:15	VanessaE	Calinou: happens to me too, idk why the client even shows those errors - I don't use the index.mth method at all
07:15	VanessaE	I mentioned it in -dev, no one responded.
07:17	Calinou	finally I can quickly dig papyrus (and cacti even) quickly :p
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07:22	Calinou	omfg
07:22	Calinou	water movement in minetest_next is insanely slow and you sink quickly
07:22	Calinou	even fast mode isn't fast
07:22	Calinou	why does BlockMen must copy everything from Minecraft?
07:23	Calinou	VanessaE, server is pretty laggyâ€¦ maybe this is due to the snow mod
07:24	sfan5	VanessaE: why don't you use index.mth?
07:24	VanessaE	sfan5: honestly, it's too complicated for me
07:25	VanessaE	sfan5: I'm a flat-folders/flat-files sort of person
07:25	sfan5	it's flat-files
07:25	Calinou	I've never managed to set up remote_media
07:25	Calinou	so people who connect to my server take 10 minutes :D but they don't care
07:26	sfan5	VanessaE: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560
07:26	VanessaE	sfan5: that's part of the problem there, too... shouldn't that script be published as a standard tool included with Minetest?
07:26	sfan5	maybe it should
07:26	VanessaE	last time I looked for it, I couldn't find it.
07:27	sfan5	https://gist.github.com/sfan5/ has many useful stuff
07:28	Calinou	there should be https://github.com/minetest/util
07:28	Calinou	you'd clone that in your Minetest repository
07:28	Calinou	it would feature mapper (C++ probably), remote media generator, Minecraft to Minetest texture pack convertersâ€¦ and so on
07:28	VanessaE	well there's already a utils dir in the minetest repo anyway
07:28	Calinou	automatic backup and restart scripts too
07:28	VanessaE	such things belong there, no?
07:29	Calinou	I'd like that as a separate repo, so that the core devs aren't afraid of committing stuff to it
07:29	sfan5	^ +1
07:29	VanessaE	good point
07:29	Calinou	most people don't need these tools anyway
07:32	sfan5	VanessaE: another thing you need to be aware of: Minetest does a POST not a GET
07:32	VanessaE	ok?
07:33	VanessaE	this 404 business only just started in the last few days
07:33	VanessaE	the client should never show those errors.
07:33	VanessaE	(well, s/few/several/)
07:34	Eater4	sfan5: you password has been cleared on my servers
07:35	sfan5	my password?
07:35	sfan5	huh?
07:35	sfan5	s/huh/why/
07:35	sfan5	I was never on your server anyway
07:35	Eater4	Because, a person was impersonating you
07:36	ThatGraemeGuy	potentially noob question.... but if I add a mod that has ores, would it add some of those new ores to an existing world?
07:36	sfan5	ThatGraemeGuy: yes
07:36	Calinou	only to newly generated blocks
07:36	sfan5	but .. ^
07:36	Calinou	so it's best to create a new world
07:37	Eater4	And make sure: load_mod_(whatever the mod is) = true in world.mt
07:38	Calinou	you can do that graphically in the Configure menu
07:38	jp	world.mt is more sure.
07:38	VanessaE	Calinou: did you by chance get a screenshot of those 404's?
07:39	VanessaE	Calinou: can you add your +1 to this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1466
07:40	Calinou	no, I didn't, but I can reconnect
07:41	VanessaE	I tried but wasn't able to repeat it on the second try
07:41	Eater4	Does my server do that
07:42	Eater4	?
07:42	VanessaE	as for lag, idk what's causing the lag :-/
07:42	VanessaE	Eater4: anyone who uses remote media/cURL to serve up the media files probably might eventually, especially if there is enough media to serve.
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07:50	Krock	hi
07:50	Eater4	Hi
07:50	Krock	I hope you're not hungry, eater.
07:51	Krock	:3
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07:53	Ragnar_droid	Herro
07:55	Calinou	hi Krock :)
07:56	Krock	hi Calinou
07:56	ThatGraemeGuy	cool, thanks sfan5, Calinou
07:57	Ragnar_droid	Hi peopl
07:57	Ragnar_droid	Calinou do you know any cheap VPS hosting servers
07:57	Eater4	Me! jk
07:57	sfan5	https://digitalocean.com
07:58	Ragnar_droid	Just to start off my server
07:59	Ragnar_droid	Eater4 what are your specs
08:00	Calinou	this isn't any cheaper than most VPS, sfan5
08:01	Calinou	too bad, they all have the same prices
08:01	Calinou	gg datacenter ownersâ€¦
08:02	Ragnar_droid	Sfan how much ram would i need for a server that has 15 people online at tge same time, minetest_game and a few plugins
08:03	Eater4	Not a lot
08:03	Ragnar_droid	512 Enough?
08:03	Eater4	I run 2 servers
08:03	Calinou	Ragnar_droid, CPU and bandwidth are more important than RAM
08:03	Calinou	512 wouldn't
08:03	Calinou	you have to host the OS tooâ€¦
08:03	jp	2 Go minimum
08:03	Calinou	aim for 2 GB
08:03	Eater4	I have 4
08:03	Eater4	And 2 cores
08:05	Ragnar_droid	64Gb ram. 40 cores enough? Lol
08:05	Eater4	Then you can run 60 minetest servers :-)
08:05	Ragnar_droid	20 cores*
08:06	Eater4	You have enough cores already
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08:07	Eater4	If you were to run a minetestserver
08:07	* Calinou	does have 8 threads and 8 GB
08:07	Calinou	but crappy bandwidthâ€¦ 50 KB/s upload, 300 KB/s download
08:07	Calinou	like I say, â€œISPs never deliverâ€.
08:08	Eater4	Mine does
08:08	Eater4	But, it is very expensive
08:08	Eater4	Idk the exact price but...ya
08:09	Ragnar_droid	Hey... Just found a great deal
08:09	Eater4	Were?
08:09	Ragnar_droid	Not gonna tell ya giggles
08:10	Ragnar_droid	But for $7/nont
08:10	Ragnar_droid	Month
08:10	Eater4	WHERE
08:10	Eater4	Don't make me hack you :P
08:10	Eater4	Jk
08:10	Ragnar_droid	qual Share CPU 2048MB RAM 2048MB vSwap 40GB SSD RAID10 Diskspace 3000GB Bandwidth 100Mbps Port Speed 1 IPv4 Address OpenVZ/SolusVM Coupon: LEB2GB65 $7.00/Month \|
08:11	Ragnar_droid	Equal share*
08:11	Eater4	The link to the website?
08:11	Ragnar_droid	Hmm.......
08:11	Ragnar_droid	http://lowendbox.com/blog/ssd-vps-7-2gb-ram-40gb-ssd-openvz-in-los-angeles/
08:12	Eater4	Hm....
08:12	Calinou	where do you live, Ragnar_droid?
08:12	Calinou	it's a terrible idea to rent a server in the US if you live in Europe
08:13	Ragnar_droid	In estonia xD
08:13	Ragnar_droid	I know... Lag
08:13	Calinou	so rent a VPS located in Europe
08:13	Calinou	less lag, more rights
08:13	Ragnar_droid	LA to estonia
08:13	Ragnar_droid	Where
08:14	Ragnar_droid	Where would you host it to let everybody in EU have about the same experiencr
08:14	Ragnar_droid	Whats the country that is in the middle of eu
08:14	Calinou	anywhere in Europe is OK
08:14	Calinou	but obviously, people from the US will lag ;)
08:15	ruskie	just go iceland then everyone will lag
08:15	Ragnar_droid	Probably... XD
08:15	Calinou	western Europe is ideal
08:15	Calinou	since you're close to Germany, France, UK, Belgiumâ€¦
08:15	Eater4	XD Make it fair
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08:16	Eater4	Calinou: what country do you live in?
08:16	Calinou	France
08:16	Ragnar_droid	Eater. U have a server righ
08:16	Ragnar_droid	Right
08:16	Ragnar_droid	Bonjur Calinou
08:16	Eater4	I have 2....
08:16	Eater4	I am from the US guys :P
08:16	Ragnar_droid	Mon nam est Ragnar
08:17	jp	nom*
08:17	Ragnar_droid	Is it?
08:17	Ragnar_droid	Oh yeah
08:17	Ragnar_droid	Sorry...
08:17	Krock	Eater4, isn't it late already? :3
08:18	Eater4	It's 3:17 in the moring O_O
08:18	Ragnar_droid	Gave it my best... Btw cal... A french babe visited us in march... French girls are HOT... Just like in the movies
08:18	jp	...
08:18	Krock	^french
08:18	Eater4	That was uncalled for
08:18	Ragnar_droid	How so
08:19	Eater4	Wasn't....expecting that
08:19	Ragnar_droid	You jelous
08:19	Eater4	Nvm
08:19	Ragnar_droid	Jelaous
08:19	Ragnar_droid	Lets just say Jelly...
08:19	Eater4	Nope
08:20	Eater4	Krock: you need to rebuild that irc mod
08:20	Eater4	For your server
08:20	Krock	huh?
08:20	Krock	how?
08:20	Ragnar_droid	Now people! What (in your opinion) is the best kind of work? I think I.T. and Programming
08:21	Eater4	^
08:21	ruskie	sysadmining hehe
08:22	Krock	The best kind of work is sitting on a nice chair and waiting for money.
08:22	ruskie	that sounds boring
08:22	Eater4	Krock: I am sure we can rebuild it or remake it for windows
08:22	Krock	(Background knowlege: Boss-level must be reached)
08:22	Eater4	Or I
08:22	Krock	Eater4, good luck.
08:23	Krock	I could make such an API full in C# but Lua doesn't seem to support that
08:24	Calinou	<Ragnar_droid> Gave it my best... Btw cal... A french babe visited us in march... French girls are HOT... Just like in the movies
08:24	Calinou	please don't assume that
08:24	Ragnar_droid	Why
08:25	Eater4	Hm....
08:25	sfan5	wat
08:26	sfan5	why doesn't mese ore drop anything anymore?
08:26	Ragnar_droid	Because u nub
08:26	Eater4	?
08:27	sfan5	drop = "default:mese_crystal",
08:27	Krock	sfan5, interesting. such a bug already existed with the diamond ore :3
08:27	sfan5	hmmm
08:27	sfan5	Krock: that was in carbone
08:27	Krock	okay
08:27	sfan5	I think I timed out
08:28	sfan5	!up minetest.org 300018
08:28	MinetestBot	minetest.org:300018 seems to be down
08:28	sfan5	!up minetest.org 30018
08:28	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
08:28	sfan5	noooooooooo
08:28	Krock	Diese Website enthÃ¤lt Malware!
08:28	Krock	WTF
08:28	Krock	http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/minetest/packages/win32/minetest-0.2.20110618_0_dev-win32.zip
08:28	sfan5	Krock: that warning is for 55.lt not for celeron.55.lt
08:28	sfan5	just use c55.me
08:28	Eater4	sfan5: why?
08:29	Eater4	Why nooo
08:29	sfan5	why what?
08:29	sfan5	because Meowtest is down
08:29	Krock	sfan5, well, the c55.me site don't contain that file :3
08:30	Eater4	sfan5: how do you update minetest?
08:30	sfan5	http://minetest.net/download
08:30	Krock	xcopy builds\bin\* myminetest\bin\* >nul
08:30	Eater4	How do you update minetestserver
08:31	Eater4	For lunix
08:31	Krock	> lunix
08:31	sfan5	which linux?
08:31	sfan5	(distribution)
08:31	Eater4	Unbuntu
08:31	Krock	> Unbuntu
08:31	sfan5	use the ppa
08:31	Krock	xD
08:31	Eater4	>XD
08:32	Eater4	Whats that?
08:32	Krock	!g ubuntu ppa
08:32	MinetestBot	Krock: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas
08:32	Krock	not that
08:32	Krock	or..yes?
08:32	sfan5	!g ubuntu ppa minetest
08:32	MinetestBot	sfan5: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable
08:32	sfan5	^ Eater4
08:35	* Krock	downloads minetest 0.0.1
08:36	Eater4	XD
08:36	Krock	woo :) Icould copy that on a floppy disk
08:37	Eater4	How fast was it? Lol
08:38	Eater4	I find it funny how we haven't made it to 1 yet
08:38	Krock	test it self... i get 25 fps
08:38	Krock	http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/
08:38	Krock	*50
08:39	Krock	ewwww
08:39	Krock	it doesn't give me the dug blocks into the inventory
08:39	Krock	BUG
08:40	Eater4	o_o
08:40	Calinou	{items = {"default:cobble"},},
08:40	Calinou	{items = {"default:mese_crystal"},},
08:40	Calinou	{items = {"maptools:silver_coin 1"},},
08:40	Calinou	sfan5, these are default:stone_with_mese drops
08:41	sfan5	I'm not using carbone
08:42	Eater4	!up minetest.crabdance.com
08:42	MinetestBot	minetest.crabdance.com:30000 is up (291ms)
08:42	Calinou	:(
08:42	Eater4	!up minetest.crabdance.com : 30001
08:42	MinetestBot	Eater4: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
08:43	Eater4	!up minetest.crabdance.com 30001
08:43	MinetestBot	minetest.crabdance.com:30001 is up (123ms)
08:47	Eater4	!up minetest.org 30019
08:47	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30019 seems to be down
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08:52	hoodedice	Morning Europeans
08:52	Krock	moin
08:52	hoodedice	sfan, still down?
08:53	sfan5	!up minetest.org:30018
08:53	MinetestBot	sfan5: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337'
08:53	sfan5	!up minetest.org 30018
08:53	Calinou	hi hoodedice
08:53	hoodedice	lel forgot own bot's syntax
08:53	MinetestBot	minetest.org:30018 seems to be down
08:53	sfan5	hoodedice: still down
08:53	hoodedice	Hi Calinou =)
08:54	hoodedice	hmm, wasn't planning to play anyway =P. Gonna get some documentation done, and then rest, and then more docs.
08:56	hoodedice	got this on r/dogecoin: "Hustler.com takes Dogecoin."
08:56	* hoodedice	clicks link.
08:56	hoodedice	2minuteslater.jpg
08:57	hoodedice	CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE
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08:57	hoodedice	DAMMIT ZWIZZING POP UP ZWIZZING CLOSE ALREADY
08:57	Calinou	your browser doesn't block pop-ups
08:57	Calinou	?
08:58	hoodedice	not that kind of pop ups
08:58	hoodedice	the flash kind, I think
08:58	hoodedice	I'mm not that secure with my browsing yet
08:58	hoodedice	http://imgur.com/gallery/jbfRO
08:58	hoodedice	^Not NSFW
08:58	Krock	sfan5, something went wrong https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=147933#p147933
08:59	Krock	points at posts-count
08:59	sfan5	saw that
08:59	sfan5	idc
08:59	Krock	ah okay
09:00	hoodedice	Why isn't this closed already? LOL: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463
09:01	Calinou	hoodedice, AdBlock + Disconnect + WOT + Flagfox is what I use ;)
09:01	Calinou	and /etc/hosts file, and blocking third party cookies
09:01	Calinou	http://someonewhocares.org/hosts
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09:01	sfan5	Krock: what is this bullshit? Just because it is named OpenAL32.dll it does not need to be 32 bit, the same way kitten_128bit.dll is not 128 bit
09:02	hoodedice	Calinou, I don't turn off ad block because I want to support the sites I visit,, for now
09:02	sfan5	and no, 32bit dlls do not works with 64 bit programs
09:02	Calinou	â€œsupportingâ€ these sites at the cost of being tracked and your brain being brainwashed is a bad deal
09:03	hoodedice	Some day when I am not busy, and bored with skyrim, and CS:S, and the 50 other games I have, I might configure firefox to do shiz
09:03	Krock	sfan5, eh. so there are 2 diffrent OpenAL32.dll, once for 32 bit and once for 64?
09:03	hoodedice	" brain being brainwashed is a bad deal"
09:03	sfan5	yes
09:03	hoodedice	OH PLEASE
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09:03	Krock	okay edits
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09:03	hoodedice	I am the last person you can expect to conform to mainstream views
09:03	* Krock	can't find the edit button
09:03	Calinou	well, ads are an insult to your brain
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09:04	Krock	You cannot edit posts in this forum.
09:04	Krock	perfect.
09:05	hoodedice	Not to mine
09:06	hoodedice	According to Sam Harris, I am a part of a radical group from the 14th Century
09:06	hoodedice	So I has no brains
09:06	RealBadAngel	good for ya, having a brain is dangerous nowadays ;)
09:07	hoodedice	^ See?
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09:09	hoodedice	BTW, I like how I can't browse c55's blog (ATTACK PAGE)
09:17	Calinou	I sure can here
09:17	Calinou	c55.me/blog
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09:20	hoodedice	older links
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09:20	Calinou	replace thelm
09:21	hoodedice	?
09:22	PenguinDad	http://imgur.com/gallery/aob0jk8 :D
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09:32	hoodedice	Calinou: Fully transparent models are possible in MT, I tested
09:32	hoodedice	Dunno about semi
09:32	Calinou	yes, and fully transparent is useless
09:32	Calinou	because the name is still visible
09:32	hoodedice	isn't there a way to remove that?
09:32	hoodedice	in minetest.conf?
09:32	Calinou	no
09:33	Calinou	only names from far away can be disabled server-side
09:33	hoodedice	hmm, but the actual issue is solved
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09:33	hoodedice	Why not make another?
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09:42	hoodedice	!tell BlockMen PM is broken, sorta https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9719 Sorry for bugging ya
09:42	MinetestBot	hoodedice: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around
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10:38	* Jordach	finished nomming on a Rustlers Chicken Mayo Sub
10:41	* Jordach	mews at sfan5
10:43	* VanessaE	throws a gold ingot at sfan5 :)
10:46	Jordach	oh yeah
10:46	Jordach	i made the ingot template so that you can just change the colours for different materials
10:47	VanessaE	cool
10:47	* Jordach	lets dropbox finish itself
10:51	Jordach	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/zL0W1CrldRHk.png D:
10:54	VanessaE	what?
10:54	VanessaE	because it's read-only?
10:54	* VanessaE	is confused
10:54	Jordach	read-only affects apps that aren't authorised
10:54	Jordach	i've used nearly half my dropbox space
10:55	VanessaE	eep
10:55	VanessaE	time to make another dropbox account ;)
11:00	VanessaE	bbl, gonna lie down
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11:19	Krock	almost compiled the minetest mapper :) http://pastebin.com/LbUiMyic
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11:27	artur99	hi
11:27	artur99	who can help me with a server? :D
11:28	artur99	I made a VPS on host1free.com
11:28	artur99	and now with PuTTy I am trying to do something
11:28	artur99	but idk what
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11:47	JesseH	artur was here for a whole 5 minutes and no one helped him! Shame :P
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11:50	Krock	"4.10 \| Please be patient, responses may take a while \| Rule"
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12:17	Jordach	Krock, perfecly symmetrical selection, has 5 characters (inc. spaces) to the left of the \|
12:18	Krock	Jordach, yeah. great selection
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12:57	PenguinDad	I think lua mapgens hate me
13:02	* sfan5	meows at PenguinDad
13:03	PenguinDad	it could also be possible that everyone who created a lua mapgen loves snow :/
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13:07	* Krock	is happy about his superduper skins updater
13:08	Krock	added automatic deletion of no longer existend skins on the database and ignore unchanged files
13:08	Krock	:)
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13:09	* PenguinDad	is happy about his much better panes mod
13:12	* Krock	updated 39 / ~360 skins :)
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13:27	Krock	wut? access violation 4 times in a row when trying to connect?
13:28	PenguinDad	Krock: I've had more segfaults in a row yesterday
13:29	* sfan5	meows at Krock
13:30	* Krock	meows at sfan5
13:30	* PenguinDad	squawks at both
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13:39	Lugal	hello
13:39	Lugal	how can I increase my building range in creativ mode?
13:40	Krock	open games/minetest_game/mods/creative/init.lua
13:41	Krock	hmm
13:42	Krock	I'd add something like minetest.registered_tools[""].range = 30 to the codes..no idea if it would work
13:49	Lugal	worked, thanks :)
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14:10	Krock	np
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14:55	Lugal	If I make a map, will I be able to use it in newer versions of the game too? is there something like a converter? or do I have to start a new map if a new version of the game comes out?
14:59	AnotherBrick	you will be able to use it in newer versions
15:03	sfan5	Lugal: unlike Minecraft, Minetest is highly backwards compatible
15:06	twoelk	Lugal: you may have some minor conflicts though with some nodes supplied by mods, as Minetest Next has been merged into the default game. Thus for example a standalone boats mod might get in conflict with the boats mod now included in the default Minetest-game. Nothing that should break the map though.
15:08	Calinou	sfan5, both are quite backwards compatible, but very old worlds will require work in both versions
15:08	Calinou	eg. worlds made before 0.2_20110922 require a sectors â†’ sqlite conversion
15:08	sfan5	Calinou: what about connecting to a server with a newer/older version?
15:08	Calinou	worlds made after that will be converted using aliases
15:08	Calinou	oh, protocol almost always changes on new Minecraft releases, but it's usually not without reason
15:09	Calinou	(but it has been a few times)
15:09	sfan5	I'm pretty sure 0.2 maps still work with todays Minetest
15:09	sfan5	there is code for it
15:09	Calinou	use sectors2sqlite.py first
15:09	Calinou	maps made after 0.2_20110922 are already sqlite, so they'll work, but facedir of nodes may be lost
15:09	sfan5	I mean C++ code
15:10	Calinou	legacy items won't be converted
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15:17	twoelk	it could be usefull to have a one button tool to get a list of unknown items in a world. That list could be used to make rules like when a mobs mod got deleted, all the unknown objects formally known as sheep get deleted while the meat gets transformed to apples.
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15:30	GhostDoge	Has someone still got this map? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=915
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15:32	thefamilygrog66	howdy folks
15:32	GhostDoge	hi thefamilygrog66
15:33	thefamilygrog66	Any tricks in getting a server to show up in the public servers list? I'm not sure what I'd doing wrong...
15:36	thefamilygrog66	Firewall ports, possibly?
15:37	Krock	server_annunce = true
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15:38	thefamilygrog66	Yes, Krock - it looks like this:
15:38	thefamilygrog66	# Automaticaly report to masterserver server_announce = true # Announce to this masterserver. if you want to announce your ipv6 address - use serverlist_url = v6.servers.minetest.net serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net
15:39	Krock	yup. and if your firewall has UDP port 30000 open, then t will work
15:40	thefamilygrog66	Pretty sure I set it to have both UDP/TCP 30000 open
15:40	thefamilygrog66	Both on the computer itself and on the router.
15:41	thefamilygrog66	I can log into the server via minetest client no problem. It's weird.
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15:41	thefamilygrog66	Adam will know the answer...
15:46	GhostDoge	"Minetest has a codebase with a long source history maintained by a very large development team with stable Y-O-Y commits." \o/
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15:48	Calinou	it's properly commented unlike Cube 2
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15:50	GhostDoge	Calinou: after ohlol minetest has a comment rate of 22%
15:50	GhostDoge	*ohloh
15:52	Calinou	â€œohlolâ€ heh
15:55	rubenwardy	wow http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filtertype:Name,filter:Jesus
16:01	Krock	such creative
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16:11	Krock	DogePony, I love you (ponies)
16:12	DogePony	I love my connection
16:14	* PenguinDad	puts Pinkie Pie on Krock's head
16:14	VanessaE	hi all
16:14	PenguinDad	hi VanessaE
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16:17	rubenwardy	!seen EvergreenTree
16:17	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-07-10 02:24:31 UTC on #minetest
16:19	Calinou	hi
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16:55	rubenwardy	First attempt at Manga / Anime style art. https://mediacru.sh/mCc0wCoz04-y
16:55	rubenwardy	Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner, so I had to use a photograph, and then go over the lines in GIMP. Which makes it jagged.
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16:57	nman3600	VanessaE, Are you currently on Krock's server?
16:58	nman3600	Is VE Awake?
16:59	PenguinDad	rubenwardy: at least better than I could draw it :P
17:01	rubenwardy	!seen VanessaE
17:01	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: vanessae was last seen at 2014-07-10 21:14:32 UTC on #minetest
17:02	nman3600	Someone is apparently VE on Krock's server (I don't believe them)
17:02	Krock	I'm reading the dev wiki
17:03	Krock	and my CPU sais: 10% usage, so - nope. not me
17:03	PenguinDad	lol
17:05	Krock	- Idlezeit: 31 min, 14 sec
17:05	Krock	@message, 5 mins ago
17:08	domtron	rubenwardy: you should try out blenders NPR options. I've been working with it over the last couple of weeks: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8286519/cat%20model/face/face7-test.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8286519/cat%20model/face/face7.png
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17:09	rubenwardy	Interesting
17:09	nman3600	Krock, Can Rhys have moderator on your server (I trust him well)
17:12	Krock	nman3600, sinve when is "moderator" claimable?
17:12	Krock	> have
17:12	nman3600	Krock, He's trustworth and he's been helping me with moderator issues (before I get the chance to talk)
17:13	Vazon	you can claim a word?? O.o i want to claim a word lol
17:13	Krock	Vazon, sure you can. gives you "word"
17:13	Vazon	but but i dont like the word "word" :( can i get a refund?
17:13	PenguinDad	I want a moderator too :P
17:14	Krock	"mod" are better, you don't know if "modification" or "moderator" is meant
17:14	Krock	s/are/is
17:15	domtron	rubenwardy: Quick search found this http://blendernpr.org/tag/anime/
17:16	Krock	lol
17:16	Krock	that made him leaving
17:17	PenguinDad	Krock: must have been a shock site ;)
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17:17	Krock	definitely
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17:18	Krock	use /quit!
17:18	* PenguinDad	is not going to use /quit
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17:21	hoodedice	>EA
17:22	hoodedice	> be 10th year Battlefield anniversary
17:22	hoodedice	> Make BF 1942 free for everyone
17:22	hoodedice	> Gamespy shut down.
17:22	hoodedice	> "We can't distribute BF1942 like this"
17:22	hoodedice	> Removes BF1942 from Origin.
17:23	hoodedice	WTF EA?
17:24	rubenwardy	Origin: Why have just the NSA when you can have the NSA and EA?
17:24	JesseH	EA, stands for something clever and offensive.
17:26	hoodedice	Even worse, they ended support for BF2, BF2142, and a load of other good old games
17:27	hoodedice	There are unofficial servers available, but EA just won't make those games entirely free
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17:31	hoodedice	40% off Goat Sim 2014
17:33	Calinou	doesn't make it worth purchasing
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17:34	hoodedice	now $5
17:34	hoodedice	> $5 <
17:35	hoodedice	nah, I agree with you anyway
17:35	hoodedice	I don't even play Garry's Mod
17:37	Calinou	Minetest is $ 0
17:37	Calinou	permanent
17:37	Calinou	works on all major OS, no DRM, you have freedom
17:37	Calinou	oh and it lasts more than 4 hours
17:37	hoodedice	Well
17:38	hoodedice	The day when we get lagless first person combat with guns in a PvE environment
17:38	hoodedice	... I don't know what I would do that day...
17:38	hoodedice	In any case, the gamer side of me is unasatisfied with open source efforts in games
17:39	hoodedice	There are cases like Minetest and Flightgear, where the community is at least TRYING
17:39	Jordach	hoodedice, neincraft :3
17:39	Calinou	<hoodedice> The day when we get lagless first person combat with guns in a PvE environment
17:39	Calinou	PvE environment?
17:39	hoodedice	Or I must say, the games are kinda good
17:39	Calinou	<hoodedice> In any case, the gamer side of me is unasatisfied with open source efforts in games
17:39	Calinou	1) you're not entitled to anything 2) it relies on volunteers, not paid people
17:39	hoodedice	Person vs Environment
17:39	Calinou	3) most gamers' minds are fundamentally incompatible with free software
17:40	hoodedice	1) Yes, I am not. But I can have.
17:40	hoodedice	2) Yes, but the lack of volunteers is disheartening
17:40	PenguinDad	Xonotic and Red Eclipse are really good imo
17:40	hoodedice	3) Go away. Why am I here then?
17:40	hoodedice	Penguin, I dislike fast paced shooters
17:41	hoodedice	There is this f2p open source wolfenstein game with a mod
17:41	hoodedice	Which is very hard to set up
17:41	hoodedice	It looks good, but I think it sucks in all respect
17:42	Calinou	ET:L is fard from hard to set up; it has an installer which downloads game data for you
17:42	Calinou	even if you don't use the installer, I fail to see how moving .pk3 files to somewhere is hard
17:42	Calinou	hoodedice, well, Red Eclipse is not that fast
17:42	Calinou	it's even medium-paced on some maps like center
17:43	rubenwardy	grr. Why do switches fall through if there is no break;? Why would that ever be needed!
17:43	hoodedice	This one: http://www.truecombatelite.com/
17:43	hoodedice	"Today we received the awesome news that TrueCombat:Elite has been Greenlit on Steam!"
17:44	Calinou	TCE is crap
17:44	hoodedice	Great, I'll just get it off Steam, then.
17:44	Jordach	fuck your awesomely realistic games
17:44	Calinou	what you want is ET:L
17:44	Calinou	http://etlegacy.com
17:44	Jordach	i'll go play TF2
17:44	Calinou	TCE isn't free/libre IIRC, anyway
17:44	Calinou	and it's quite dead
17:44	Jordach	hoodedice, TF2?
17:44	hoodedice	not today
17:44	hoodedice	Don't feel like
17:44	Jordach	D:
17:44	hoodedice	=/
17:45	hoodedice	Who the heck sad red eclipse was anything slow?!
17:45	Calinou	TCE doesn't exactly look good anyway
17:45	Calinou	http://tesseract.gg â†’ this is â€œlook goodâ€
17:45	Calinou	hoodedice, me, it can be slow sometimes
17:45	Calinou	you do realize all maps are not the same
17:45	hoodedice	It has friggin bhopping!
17:46	Calinou	both of these games lack strafe jumping
17:46	Calinou	bunny hopping refers to using a trick to keep high speed while turning in air.
17:46	Calinou	jumping repeatedly is not bunny hopping
17:46	hoodedice	I beg to differ
17:46	Calinou	it can be done in any game, even TF2 with a script
17:46	Calinou	you can jump repeatedly IRL
17:46	Calinou	also, jumping all the time makes for a bad player
17:46	Calinou	you're predictable
17:47	hoodedice	Tesserect has a nice engine
17:47	hoodedice	nah, when you are flashbanged, better jump around than crouching
17:49	Calinou	war simulators aren't fun and teach people bad things
17:51	hoodedice	shakes head
17:51	Calinou	shake your head as much as you want, but gaming isn't an end to everything anyway
17:53	hoodedice	Indeed it is not.
17:58	Krock	horray. an other issue.
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18:10	Calinou	you seem to think it is
18:10	Calinou	like, it's the end of the world if no games satisfy you
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18:24		smoke_fumus was kicked by Calinou: smoke_fumus
18:24	* Calinou	salutes
18:24	Calinou	do that again â†’ month ban
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18:24	smoke_fumus	appa
18:24	Calinou	I don't joke with harassment and people harassing me in general, it happens often enough
18:25	smoke_fumus	Yeah, even though you are being a jerk yourself
18:25	smoke_fumus	don't want people to harrass you - don't be a jerk.
18:25	smoke_fumus	simple rule.
18:25	sfan5	wat
18:25	Calinou	you're quite the one being a jerk here
18:25	sfan5	Calinou: what did smoke_fumus do?
18:26	smoke_fumus	sfan5: not on this channel, he kicked me when i shoved him dow non #opengameart
18:26	sfan5	Calinou: this is not how this is supposed to work
18:26	smoke_fumus	Calinou: yeah, need i remind you your dick-less bitching about my swf upload and today about your yelling at me to burn just because i upload my music on newgrounds? That's being a total dickless jerk.
18:27	Calinou	keep it off with the attacks and swear words, please
18:27	smoke_fumus	keep it off from being a jerk, and i'll lay down my cock-full spear
18:27	AnotherBrick	now THAT is a decent reason to kick/ban/mute/whatever
18:28	smoke_fumus	AnotherBrick: sarcasm or honest?
18:29	AnotherBrick	second
18:29	Calinou	I don't think banning you will solve things
18:29	Calinou	but if you harass me even once here, you'll be banned
18:30	Calinou	this includes calling me an extremÂ¡st or such, btw.
18:30	smoke_fumus	Calinou: uh.......what?
18:30	smoke_fumus	how this has to do with anything?
18:30	smoke_fumus	i mean calling you extrimist
18:31	Calinou	I'm sure it'll happen some day
18:32	smoke_fumus	uh, you just divided on zero
18:36	* VanessaE	peeks in...
18:36	VanessaE	damn, what did I miss? :P
18:36	Krock	3rd world war.
18:36	sfan5	not much
18:37	Calinou	me being harassed
18:37	Calinou	you wouldn't like it, VanessaE
18:38	VanessaE	Calinou: oh, well nothing unusual then? ;)
18:38	Calinou	no, but it's not funny at that point
18:38	VanessaE	understood
18:38	* VanessaE	scrolls back a bit...
18:39	AnotherBrick	btw Calinou, your warning about month ban was just after you kicked fumus and right before he joined
18:43	VanessaE	I have to admit I'm confused about that kick and ban warning as well.
18:43	VanessaE	however the follow-up commentary from smoke_fumus was un-called-for in any case.
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19:52	Krock	VanessaE, why are your servers not on inchra.net? I thought the IRC mod tries to re-connect
19:56	EvergreenTree	Krock: same thing happens to me
19:56	EvergreenTree	on isis.inchra.net and irc.inchra.net
19:56	EvergreenTree	as well as anubis.inchra.net
19:56	Krock	Well, I'm on anubis since 10 hours and 3 players online...still
19:57	Krock	is that not all connected together? - or in other words: does it matter which server I connect to?
19:57	EvergreenTree	Idk
19:58	Krock	I see
19:58	Krock	moved to shadowninja.minetest.net
19:58	hoodedice	What did I miss?
19:59	hoodedice	Can't see much in the logs
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20:05	twoelk	the inchra.net servers sometimes get split. The VE servers are usually on isis. Horus and anubis had some downtime now and then
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20:08	sfan5	Calinou: are you visiting? :)
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20:15	sfan5	!c (60000600003)/1024
20:15	MinetestBot	10546875
20:15	sfan5	!c (60000600003)/1024.0/1024
20:15	MinetestBot	10299.6826171875
20:15	sfan5	!c (60000600003)/1024.0/1024/1024
20:15	MinetestBot	10.058283805847168
20:17	sfan5	!c (36112134723)/1024.0/1024/1024
20:17	MinetestBot	1.3592677116394043
20:17	thefamilygrog66	sfan, and the calculations...
20:18	hoodedice	sfan5, ##minetestbot
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20:19	sfan5	hoodedice: calculation as related to #minetest
20:19	hoodedice	spam.
20:19	sfan5	pff
20:19	hoodedice	PFFFT
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20:22	* Sokomine	pats sfan5 automaticly
20:22	* Sokomine	puts a bowl of milk down
20:22	* sfan5	purrs
20:22	* sfan5	noms the milk
20:22	* sfan5	noms the bowl
20:22	* sfan5	curls up to Sokomine's lap
20:23	hoodedice	Hai Sokomine
20:24	Sokomine	hi :-)
20:24	* Sokomine	continues to pat sfan5
20:24	* sfan5	meows
20:25	Sokomine	hm. now i caught myshelf a cat...but what i really need is a native speaker who can help me out with random village names :-)
20:25	Calinou	Creatures mod spawning is quite broken
20:25	Calinou	dozens of zombies and ghosts spawned next to me at night
20:26	Sokomine	spawning seems to be a problem of all mob mods to some degree or another. such odd things have been observed in all of them
20:26	hoodedice	What kind of native =P?
20:26	Sokomine	english
20:26	hoodedice	I'm native to planet Earth
20:26	Sokomine	doesn't count :-)
20:26	hoodedice	hmm, not English, but let me dig some Latn roots
20:26	Calinou	it depends on the spawning method, eg. Simple Mobs uses ABMs
20:26	Calinou	Sokomine, never had that with mobs in Carbone
20:27	Sokomine	hmm. the villages of the typ medieval might get german names...it'd make a bit of sense at least. but then most people won't understand those names at all
20:27	Calinou	this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656
20:27	hoodedice	Anglo-Saxon
20:27	sfan5	Calinou: yes, it's broken
20:27	Sokomine	calinou: based on my experience with all mobs mods, you probably didn't let it run long enough. or with enough players
20:27	Calinou	then it's an engine bug
20:28	twoelk\|2	strange, can't connect to the www part of the internet anymore after all my connections collapsed
20:28	Sokomine	twoelk: nameserver problem?
20:28	twoelk\|2	could be
20:28	twoelk\|2	oh
20:28	hoodedice	Soko, my way of genning names: Tree (lignum) House (domum)
20:29	Calinou	bye
20:29	hoodedice	Mix and Mash: lidomum
20:29	hoodedice	Bye
20:29	hoodedice	So, there's your fist name, Lidomum village
20:29	Sokomine	hoodedice: i'm afraid that wouldn't work. none of the houses look like they might fit into that time period
20:30	hoodedice	As I see it, a few years down the lineand it would become Lidom (Lai-dum) village
20:30	Sokomine	i'm rather thinking of something else. but i do need a native speaker (or someone really really good with english) in order to sort out weather those names would be plain silly or acceptable
20:30	Sokomine	:-)
20:30	hoodedice	Just like Londonimium became London
20:30	* sfan5	throws Jordach at Sokomine
20:30	twoelk	btw there are quite a lot of fantasy name generators out there
20:30	* hoodedice	throws rubenwardy at Sokomine
20:31	EvergreenTree	One does not simply through a joepie91
20:31	EvergreenTree	whoops
20:31	EvergreenTree	*Jordach
20:31	hoodedice	lel
20:31	hoodedice	*throw
20:31	Sokomine	yes. one of those might do as well. but i'd rather like something else
20:31	* hoodedice	throws myself
20:31	* EvergreenTree	roots himself
20:31	hoodedice	*himself
20:31	twoelk	got examples ?
20:31	EvergreenTree	no one is throwing me
20:31	Sokomine	rooted trees are good
20:31	* hoodedice	sets EvergreenTree on fire
20:32	* Sokomine	pours some water on evergreentree
20:32	EvergreenTree	OW
20:32	* hoodedice	chops EvergreenTree and makes paper
20:32	EvergreenTree	What was that for?
20:32	twoelk	tree based village names?
20:32	* EvergreenTree	regenerates
20:32	Jordach	sfan5, throwing me will probably kill you
20:32	EvergreenTree	I am every Evergreen Tree you have ever seen
20:32	sfan5	D:
20:32	Jordach	i weigh almost at 100kg
20:32	* sfan5	meows at Jordach
20:32	hoodedice	To give you this letter with this drawing on it: http://i.imgur.com/etjgJ2D.jpg
20:32	* sfan5	goes to sleep
20:33	* hoodedice	thinks Jordach is fat
20:33	sfan5	hoodedice: I knew it before I opened the image: dickbutt
20:33	hoodedice	=D
20:33	twoelk	hmm, "Pineville, Holyoaks....."
20:33	* sfan5	really goes to sleep
20:33	* EvergreenTree	slaps hoodedice with a branch
20:33	* hoodedice	pats sfan5
20:33	* hoodedice	tucks in sfan5
20:33	Calinou	EvergreenTree, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Ms5q4iXOHyWC.jpg
20:34	hoodedice	Soko, lemme pass you some 'Murican names
20:34	Jordach	i wonder if EvergreenTree ever becomes a bank clerk
20:34	Jordach	then his business might branch out
20:34	EvergreenTree	Oh, I see you have found a MonsterTree
20:34	Sokomine	sleep well :-)
20:34	EvergreenTree	Lel
20:34	hoodedice	Sheffield Village, Avon, Lakewood, Brighton...
20:34	* Sokomine	puts sfan5 into a basket with a soft cussion
20:35	hoodedice	Cleveland. With a nice Cleaveland video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY&feature=kp
20:35	Sokomine	hm, lakewood sounds good. but: what's the general pattern of these?
20:35	Calinou	I remade the texture of the tree monster
20:36	hoodedice	Lots of old town names here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cleveland,+OH/@41.4056488,-81.778816,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ef2ee3686b2d:0xed04cb55f7621842
20:36	sfan5	Sokomine: cushion*
20:37	twoelk	descriptive-adjective+geographicnoun?
20:37	hoodedice	That is for villages with forests near the sea
20:37	twoelk	or otherway round as in "LakePlacid"
20:38	hoodedice	For villages in colder climes, use finnish names
20:38	twoelk	the "at" froze away?
20:38	hoodedice	https://www.google.com/maps/place/37100+Nokia,+Finland/@61.7415485,24.1765078,314460m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x468ed16a2395ee57:0x400b551554bb940
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20:40	twoelk	I want my name servers back, can't follow them links grrrrr
20:40	Sokomine	hoodedice: google maps works only to a limited degree for me
20:40	hoodedice	?
20:40	sfan5	twoelk: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
20:40	hoodedice	just click the links, and wait for a bit, the names will appear, don't move it about
20:41	hoodedice	oh, and, Iran, for deserts: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.3910855,52.2583173,507494m/data=!3m1!1e3
20:42	Miner_48er	sfan5 are you on linuxgaming.us or is it an impostor?
20:42	sfan5	I'm not on any server ATM
20:42	Sokomine	hmm. but you're up to something...village names depending on biome might be nice. through probably a bit too much
20:43	Sokomine	there seem to be a lot of impostors lately
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20:46	twoelk	interesting, I can connect to the forum but not to the irc logs?
20:46	twoelk	and not to google :-D
20:46	EvergreenTree	the irc logs are a different site
20:48	sfan5	<sfan5>30 twoelk: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4
20:48	* twoelk	knows that, still interesting
20:48	twoelk	tried that
20:48	twoelk	didn't work
20:51	twoelk	oh well time to reboot the router
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21:20	Lugal	good evening
21:20	Lugal	can someone explain me these line from creatures? :physics = {
21:20	Lugal	speed = 10,
21:20	Lugal	jump = 10,
21:20	Lugal	gravity = 10,
21:20	Lugal	},
21:20	Lugal	teams = {monsters = -0.4, people = 0.6, animals = 0.1},
21:21	RealBadAngel	Lugal, ask Taoki bout it
21:22	Taoki	Lugal: 1, not 10. They define movement speed offsets, based on movement speeds in minetest.conf
21:22	hoodedice	And please use gist at github
21:24	Lugal	nothing changed when I made 10 of it. they still move same speed
21:25	hoodedice	"offset"
21:25	hoodedice	I think it is a ratio
21:25	hoodedice	10:10:10 would still be 1:1:1
21:26	Lugal	ah ok ^^
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21:26	Taoki	It's a multiplier
21:27	Lugal	and what are the numbers in the teams?
21:30	Taoki	Lugal: How much each creature is pro or con a certain interest. The sum of all differences decides whether two creatures are enemies or friends
21:30	Taoki	And to what extent
21:30	Lugal	so if I replace 0.6 by 10 the will fight more often?
21:31	Lugal	or -0.4 by -4
21:31	Taoki	It must range between 0 and 1. And not exactly
21:31	Lugal	-0.5 = 50% chance that they fight?
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21:31	Taoki	If for the same interest a creature has 0.4, while another has -0.4, they will both be neutral, as it's 0.4 + -0.4
21:32	Taoki	Or I think, don't remember by memory
21:32	Lugal	k, thanks :)
21:32	Taoki	NP. See the function in init.lua, the calculation is done there
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21:56	Lugal	is Agressivity also ranging from 0 to 1?
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21:56	Lugal	how to set aggressivity and fear, to make them always fight?
21:57	Lugal	and what means determination?
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23:02	Lugal	I cant respawn as a human anymore. can anyone help?
23:03	Lugal	only when I attack him , then I can incarnate
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