Time Nick Message 00:25 WindHero test 01:01 Zeno` test test test 01:01 Zeno` silly microphone doesn't work. /me eats it 01:29 WindHero lol 01:31 WindHero gotta learn to /away when I'm watching anime :P 01:55 Eater4 sfan5? 02:21 * cheapie pokes Zeno` 02:21 cheapie sfan5 is ready for you. 02:22 Eater4 Until I see sfan5 say something about my server and interact, the answer will be no 02:32 cheapie Looks like he disappeared. 02:39 Zeno` heh 02:40 Eater4 Ahem* FAKE 03:32 Megaf [18:20:28] Is this normal for 0.4.10-dev? http://i.imgur.com/dFkRCdh.png 03:32 Megaf I saw that already on older versions too 03:38 VanessaE Megaf: it helps if you answer peoples' questions while they're still here :P 03:38 Megaf VanessaE; oh, I'm not sure, sapier will always get things I write while he is offline, I don't know how he does that 03:39 Megaf Perhaps he reads the log 03:39 Megaf :P 03:39 Megaf All people could do that too! 03:39 VanessaE he reads the log but idk if grog does. 03:39 VanessaE most people don't. 04:35 JesseH My sand wall with cactus on top is complete, now to let the cactus grow. 04:41 JesseH http://www.thehorne.com/pics/minetest1.png 04:49 emerge nice 05:12 JesseH I have a ladder so high in this game that to finish putting ladders all the way up, it will be faster for me to create a platform where I am now and grow some trees to get the wood ill need. 05:13 JesseH Or I could go back down, grab some wood, and come back up. :P 05:32 emerge Once I made game make me ladder using this formula -- y=x 05:32 emerge It was big.. 05:34 VanessaE sfan5: nu, eppes für yomtov? merge nore's ingot textures already :) 06:28 JesseH emerge, ;P 06:28 LemonLake eemeerrgeeee 07:07 sfan5 cheapie: I need to sleep too.. 07:07 cheapie sfan5: OK... how does that involve me? 07:07 sfan5 sfan5 is ready for you. 07:07 sfan5 Looks like he disappeared. 07:08 cheapie Yes, I was trying to get Zeno`'s attention. 07:08 cheapie I don't know where he went now. 07:10 sfan5 !tell BlockMen https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9688&start=25#p147914 07:10 MinetestBot sfan5: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around 07:10 sfan5 meow 07:10 sfan5 hi everyone and Calinou 07:11 jp hi 07:11 emerge JesseH, what? 07:11 JesseH " Once I made game make me ladder using this formula -- y=x" 07:12 emerge yep 07:12 nore sfan5, so, do you think the new ingots look good? 07:12 emerge and also you can do y=(1/10)*x and get a world slightly inclined 07:12 sfan5 nore: yay 07:12 sfan5 yes* 07:12 Calinou hi 07:12 Calinou sfan5, yes they do 07:12 nore hi 07:12 Calinou added them to Carbone and More Ores 07:13 emerge JesseH, It's also fun to do this with parabolic function. 07:13 emerge It will make something like a hill. 07:13 nore well, you need to thank BlockMen and VanessaE too 07:14 nore BlockMen did the original ingot I modified, and VanessaE used the first ingot I drew to make the others :) 07:14 * VanessaE has mad gimp re-coloring skillz ;) 07:14 Calinou ERROR[CurlFetchThread]: http://192.99.11.10/creative-survival-media/index.mth not found (HTTP response code said error) (response code 404) 07:15 Calinou I got this while connecting to mostly-vanilla server 07:15 VanessaE Calinou: happens to me too, idk why the client even shows those errors - I don't use the index.mth method at all 07:15 VanessaE I mentioned it in -dev, no one responded. 07:17 Calinou finally I can quickly dig papyrus (and cacti even) quickly :p 07:22 Calinou omfg 07:22 Calinou water movement in minetest_next is insanely slow and you sink quickly 07:22 Calinou even fast mode isn't fast 07:22 Calinou why does BlockMen must copy everything from Minecraft? 07:23 Calinou VanessaE, server is pretty laggy… maybe this is due to the snow mod 07:24 sfan5 VanessaE: why don't you use index.mth? 07:24 VanessaE sfan5: honestly, it's too complicated for me 07:25 VanessaE sfan5: I'm a flat-folders/flat-files sort of person 07:25 sfan5 it's flat-files 07:25 Calinou I've never managed to set up remote_media 07:25 Calinou so people who connect to my server take 10 minutes :D but they don't care 07:26 sfan5 VanessaE: https://gist.github.com/sfan5/6351560 07:26 VanessaE sfan5: that's part of the problem there, too... shouldn't that script be published as a standard tool included with Minetest? 07:26 sfan5 maybe it should 07:26 VanessaE last time I looked for it, I couldn't find it. 07:27 sfan5 https://gist.github.com/sfan5/ has many useful stuff 07:28 Calinou there should be https://github.com/minetest/util 07:28 Calinou you'd clone that in your Minetest repository 07:28 Calinou it would feature mapper (C++ probably), remote media generator, Minecraft to Minetest texture pack converters… and so on 07:28 VanessaE well there's already a utils dir in the minetest repo anyway 07:28 Calinou automatic backup and restart scripts too 07:28 VanessaE such things belong there, no? 07:29 Calinou I'd like that as a separate repo, so that the core devs aren't afraid of committing stuff to it 07:29 sfan5 ^ +1 07:29 VanessaE good point 07:29 Calinou most people don't need these tools anyway 07:32 sfan5 VanessaE: another thing you need to be aware of: Minetest does a POST not a GET 07:32 VanessaE ok? 07:33 VanessaE this 404 business only just started in the last few days 07:33 VanessaE the client should never show those errors. 07:33 VanessaE (well, s/few/several/) 07:34 Eater4 sfan5: you password has been cleared on my servers 07:35 sfan5 my password? 07:35 sfan5 huh? 07:35 sfan5 s/huh/why/ 07:35 sfan5 I was never on your server anyway 07:35 Eater4 Because, a person was impersonating you 07:36 ThatGraemeGuy potentially noob question.... but if I add a mod that has ores, would it add some of those new ores to an existing world? 07:36 sfan5 ThatGraemeGuy: yes 07:36 Calinou only to newly generated blocks 07:36 sfan5 but .. ^ 07:36 Calinou so it's best to create a new world 07:37 Eater4 And make sure: load_mod_(whatever the mod is) = true in world.mt 07:38 Calinou you can do that graphically in the Configure menu 07:38 jp world.mt is more sure. 07:38 VanessaE Calinou: did you by chance get a screenshot of those 404's? 07:39 VanessaE Calinou: can you add your +1 to this? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1466 07:40 Calinou no, I didn't, but I can reconnect 07:41 VanessaE I tried but wasn't able to repeat it on the second try 07:41 Eater4 Does my server do that 07:42 Eater4 ? 07:42 VanessaE as for lag, idk what's causing the lag :-/ 07:42 VanessaE Eater4: anyone who uses remote media/cURL to serve up the media files probably might eventually, especially if there is enough media to serve. 07:50 Krock hi 07:50 Eater4 Hi 07:50 Krock I hope you're not hungry, eater. 07:51 Krock :3 07:53 Ragnar_droid Herro 07:55 Calinou hi Krock :) 07:56 Krock hi Calinou 07:56 ThatGraemeGuy cool, thanks sfan5, Calinou 07:57 Ragnar_droid Hi peopl 07:57 Ragnar_droid Calinou do you know any cheap VPS hosting servers 07:57 Eater4 Me! jk 07:57 sfan5 https://digitalocean.com 07:58 Ragnar_droid Just to start off my server 07:59 Ragnar_droid Eater4 what are your specs 08:00 Calinou this isn't any cheaper than most VPS, sfan5 08:01 Calinou too bad, they all have the same prices 08:01 Calinou gg datacenter owners… 08:02 Ragnar_droid Sfan how much ram would i need for a server that has 15 people online at tge same time, minetest_game and a few plugins 08:03 Eater4 Not a lot 08:03 Ragnar_droid 512 Enough? 08:03 Eater4 I run 2 servers 08:03 Calinou Ragnar_droid, CPU and bandwidth are more important than RAM 08:03 Calinou 512 wouldn't 08:03 Calinou you have to host the OS too… 08:03 jp 2 Go minimum 08:03 Calinou aim for 2 GB 08:03 Eater4 I have 4 08:03 Eater4 And 2 cores 08:05 Ragnar_droid 64Gb ram. 40 cores enough? Lol 08:05 Eater4 Then you can run 60 minetest servers :-) 08:05 Ragnar_droid 20 cores* 08:06 Eater4 You have enough cores already 08:07 Eater4 If you were to run a minetestserver 08:07 * Calinou does have 8 threads and 8 GB 08:07 Calinou but crappy bandwidth… 50 KB/s upload, 300 KB/s download 08:07 Calinou like I say, “ISPs never deliver”. 08:08 Eater4 Mine does 08:08 Eater4 But, it is very expensive 08:08 Eater4 Idk the exact price but...ya 08:09 Ragnar_droid Hey... Just found a great deal 08:09 Eater4 Were? 08:09 Ragnar_droid Not gonna tell ya *giggles* 08:10 Ragnar_droid But for $7/nont 08:10 Ragnar_droid Month 08:10 Eater4 WHERE 08:10 Eater4 Don't make me hack you :P 08:10 Eater4 Jk 08:10 Ragnar_droid qual Share CPU 2048MB RAM 2048MB vSwap 40GB SSD RAID10 Diskspace 3000GB Bandwidth 100Mbps Port Speed 1 IPv4 Address OpenVZ/SolusVM Coupon: LEB2GB65 $7.00/Month | 08:11 Ragnar_droid Equal share* 08:11 Eater4 The link to the website? 08:11 Ragnar_droid Hmm....... 08:11 Ragnar_droid http://lowendbox.com/blog/ssd-vps-7-2gb-ram-40gb-ssd-openvz-in-los-angeles/ 08:12 Eater4 Hm.... 08:12 Calinou where do you live, Ragnar_droid? 08:12 Calinou it's a terrible idea to rent a server in the US if you live in Europe 08:13 Ragnar_droid In estonia xD 08:13 Ragnar_droid I know... Lag 08:13 Calinou so rent a VPS located in Europe 08:13 Calinou less lag, more rights 08:13 Ragnar_droid LA to estonia 08:13 Ragnar_droid Where 08:14 Ragnar_droid Where would you host it to let everybody in EU have about the same experiencr 08:14 Ragnar_droid Whats the country that is in the middle of eu 08:14 Calinou anywhere in Europe is OK 08:14 Calinou but obviously, people from the US will lag ;) 08:15 ruskie just go iceland then everyone will lag 08:15 Ragnar_droid Probably... XD 08:15 Calinou western Europe is ideal 08:15 Calinou since you're close to Germany, France, UK, Belgium… 08:15 Eater4 XD Make it fair 08:16 Eater4 Calinou: what country do you live in? 08:16 Calinou France 08:16 Ragnar_droid Eater. U have a server righ 08:16 Ragnar_droid Right 08:16 Ragnar_droid Bonjur Calinou 08:16 Eater4 I have 2.... 08:16 Eater4 I am from the US guys :P 08:16 Ragnar_droid Mon nam est Ragnar 08:17 jp nom* 08:17 Ragnar_droid Is it? 08:17 Ragnar_droid Oh yeah 08:17 Ragnar_droid Sorry... 08:17 Krock Eater4, isn't it late already? :3 08:18 Eater4 It's 3:17 in the moring O_O 08:18 Ragnar_droid Gave it my best... Btw cal... A french babe visited us in march... French girls are HOT... Just like in the movies 08:18 jp ... 08:18 Krock ^french 08:18 Eater4 That was uncalled for 08:18 Ragnar_droid How so 08:19 Eater4 Wasn't....expecting that 08:19 Ragnar_droid You jelous 08:19 Eater4 Nvm 08:19 Ragnar_droid Jelaous 08:19 Ragnar_droid Lets just say Jelly... 08:19 Eater4 Nope 08:20 Eater4 Krock: you need to rebuild that irc mod 08:20 Eater4 For your server 08:20 Krock huh? 08:20 Krock how? 08:20 Ragnar_droid Now people! What (in your opinion) is the best kind of work? I think I.T. and Programming 08:21 Eater4 ^ 08:21 ruskie sysadmining hehe 08:22 Krock The best kind of work is sitting on a nice chair and waiting for money. 08:22 ruskie that sounds boring 08:22 Eater4 Krock: I am sure we can rebuild it or remake it for windows 08:22 Krock (Background knowlege: Boss-level must be reached) 08:22 Eater4 Or I 08:22 Krock Eater4, good luck. 08:23 Krock I could make such an API full in C# but Lua doesn't seem to support that 08:24 Calinou Gave it my best... Btw cal... A french babe visited us in march... French girls are HOT... Just like in the movies 08:24 Calinou please don't assume that 08:24 Ragnar_droid Why 08:25 Eater4 Hm.... 08:25 sfan5 wat 08:26 sfan5 why doesn't mese ore drop anything anymore? 08:26 Ragnar_droid Because u nub 08:26 Eater4 ? 08:27 sfan5 drop = "default:mese_crystal", 08:27 Krock sfan5, interesting. such a bug already existed with the diamond ore :3 08:27 sfan5 hmmm 08:27 sfan5 Krock: that was in carbone 08:27 Krock okay 08:27 sfan5 I think I timed out 08:28 sfan5 !up minetest.org 300018 08:28 MinetestBot minetest.org:300018 seems to be down 08:28 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30018 08:28 MinetestBot minetest.org:30018 seems to be down 08:28 sfan5 noooooooooo 08:28 Krock Diese Website enthält Malware! 08:28 Krock WTF 08:28 Krock http://celeron.55.lt/~celeron55/minetest/packages/win32/minetest-0.2.20110618_0_dev-win32.zip 08:28 sfan5 Krock: that warning is for 55.lt not for celeron.55.lt 08:28 sfan5 just use c55.me 08:28 Eater4 sfan5: why? 08:29 Eater4 Why nooo 08:29 sfan5 why what? 08:29 sfan5 because Meowtest is down 08:29 Krock sfan5, well, the c55.me site don't contain that file :3 08:30 Eater4 sfan5: how do you update minetest? 08:30 sfan5 http://minetest.net/download 08:30 Krock xcopy builds\bin\* myminetest\bin\* >nul 08:30 Eater4 How do you update minetestserver 08:31 Eater4 For lunix 08:31 Krock > lunix 08:31 sfan5 which linux? 08:31 sfan5 (distribution) 08:31 Eater4 Unbuntu 08:31 Krock > Unbuntu 08:31 sfan5 use the ppa 08:31 Krock xD 08:31 Eater4 >XD 08:32 Eater4 Whats that? 08:32 Krock !g ubuntu ppa 08:32 MinetestBot Krock: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas 08:32 Krock not that 08:32 Krock or..yes? 08:32 sfan5 !g ubuntu ppa minetest 08:32 MinetestBot sfan5: https://launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable 08:32 sfan5 ^ Eater4 08:35 * Krock downloads minetest 0.0.1 08:36 Eater4 XD 08:36 Krock woo :) Icould copy that on a floppy disk 08:37 Eater4 How fast was it? Lol 08:38 Eater4 I find it funny how we haven't made it to 1 yet 08:38 Krock test it self... i get 25 fps 08:38 Krock http://c55.me/minetest/oldsite/packages/win32/ 08:38 Krock *50 08:39 Krock ewwww 08:39 Krock it doesn't give me the dug blocks into the inventory 08:39 Krock BUG 08:40 Eater4 o_o 08:40 Calinou {items = {"default:cobble"},}, 08:40 Calinou {items = {"default:mese_crystal"},}, 08:40 Calinou {items = {"maptools:silver_coin 1"},}, 08:40 Calinou sfan5, these are default:stone_with_mese drops 08:41 sfan5 I'm not using carbone 08:42 Eater4 !up minetest.crabdance.com 08:42 MinetestBot minetest.crabdance.com:30000 is up (291ms) 08:42 Calinou :( 08:42 Eater4 !up minetest.crabdance.com : 30001 08:42 MinetestBot Eater4: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 08:43 Eater4 !up minetest.crabdance.com 30001 08:43 MinetestBot minetest.crabdance.com:30001 is up (123ms) 08:47 Eater4 !up minetest.org 30019 08:47 MinetestBot minetest.org:30019 seems to be down 08:52 hoodedice Morning Europeans 08:52 Krock moin 08:52 hoodedice sfan, still down? 08:53 sfan5 !up minetest.org:30018 08:53 MinetestBot sfan5: Syntax changed, please use 'example.org 1337' instead of 'example.org:1337' 08:53 sfan5 !up minetest.org 30018 08:53 Calinou hi hoodedice 08:53 hoodedice lel forgot own bot's syntax 08:53 MinetestBot minetest.org:30018 seems to be down 08:53 sfan5 hoodedice: still down 08:53 hoodedice Hi Calinou =) 08:54 hoodedice hmm, wasn't planning to play anyway =P. Gonna get some documentation done, and then rest, and then more docs. 08:56 hoodedice got this on r/dogecoin: "Hustler.com takes Dogecoin." 08:56 * hoodedice clicks link. 08:56 hoodedice 2minuteslater.jpg 08:57 hoodedice CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE CLOSE 08:57 hoodedice DAMMIT ZWIZZING POP UP ZWIZZING CLOSE ALREADY 08:57 Calinou your browser doesn't block pop-ups 08:57 Calinou ? 08:58 hoodedice not that kind of pop ups 08:58 hoodedice the flash kind, I think 08:58 hoodedice I'mm not that secure with my browsing yet 08:58 hoodedice http://imgur.com/gallery/jbfRO 08:58 hoodedice ^Not NSFW 08:58 Krock sfan5, something went wrong https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?p=147933#p147933 08:59 Krock *points at posts-count* 08:59 sfan5 saw that 08:59 sfan5 idc 08:59 Krock ah okay 09:00 hoodedice Why isn't this closed already? LOL: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 09:01 Calinou hoodedice, AdBlock + Disconnect + WOT + Flagfox is what I use ;) 09:01 Calinou and /etc/hosts file, and blocking third party cookies 09:01 Calinou http://someonewhocares.org/hosts 09:01 sfan5 Krock: what is this bullshit? Just because it is named OpenAL32.dll it does not need to be 32 bit, the same way kitten_128bit.dll is not 128 bit 09:02 hoodedice Calinou, I don't turn off ad block because I want to support the sites I visit,, for now 09:02 sfan5 and no, 32bit dlls do not works with 64 bit programs 09:02 Calinou “supporting” these sites at the cost of being tracked and your brain being brainwashed is a bad deal 09:03 hoodedice Some day when I am not busy, and bored with skyrim, and CS:S, and the 50 other games I have, I might configure firefox to do shiz 09:03 Krock sfan5, eh. so there are 2 diffrent OpenAL32.dll, once for 32 bit and once for 64? 09:03 hoodedice " brain being brainwashed is a bad deal" 09:03 sfan5 yes 09:03 hoodedice OH PLEASE 09:03 Krock okay *edits* 09:03 hoodedice I am the last person you can expect to conform to mainstream views 09:03 * Krock can't find the edit button 09:03 Calinou well, ads are an insult to your brain 09:04 Krock You cannot edit posts in this forum. 09:04 Krock perfect. 09:05 hoodedice Not to mine 09:06 hoodedice According to Sam Harris, I am a part of a radical group from the 14th Century 09:06 hoodedice So I has no brains 09:06 RealBadAngel good for ya, having a brain is dangerous nowadays ;) 09:07 hoodedice ^ See? 09:09 hoodedice BTW, I like how I can't browse c55's blog (ATTACK PAGE) 09:17 Calinou I sure can here 09:17 Calinou c55.me/blog 09:20 hoodedice older links 09:20 Calinou replace thelm 09:21 hoodedice ? 09:22 PenguinDad http://imgur.com/gallery/aob0jk8 :D 09:32 hoodedice Calinou: Fully transparent models are possible in MT, I tested 09:32 hoodedice Dunno about semi 09:32 Calinou yes, and fully transparent is useless 09:32 Calinou because the name is still visible 09:32 hoodedice isn't there a way to remove that? 09:32 hoodedice in minetest.conf? 09:32 Calinou no 09:33 Calinou only names from far away can be disabled server-side 09:33 hoodedice hmm, but the actual issue is solved 09:33 hoodedice Why not make another? 09:42 hoodedice !tell BlockMen PM is broken, sorta https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=9719 Sorry for bugging ya 09:42 MinetestBot hoodedice: I'll pass that on when BlockMen is around 10:38 * Jordach finished nomming on a Rustlers Chicken Mayo Sub 10:41 * Jordach mews at sfan5 10:43 * VanessaE throws a gold ingot at sfan5 :) 10:46 Jordach oh yeah 10:46 Jordach i made the ingot template so that you can just change the colours for different materials 10:47 VanessaE cool 10:47 * Jordach lets dropbox finish itself 10:51 Jordach https://cdn.mediacru.sh/zL0W1CrldRHk.png D: 10:54 VanessaE what? 10:54 VanessaE because it's read-only? 10:54 * VanessaE is confused 10:54 Jordach read-only affects apps that aren't authorised 10:54 Jordach i've used nearly half my dropbox space 10:55 VanessaE eep 10:55 VanessaE time to make another dropbox account ;) 11:00 VanessaE bbl, gonna lie down 11:19 Krock almost compiled the minetest mapper :) http://pastebin.com/LbUiMyic 11:27 artur99 hi 11:27 artur99 who can help me with a server? :D 11:28 artur99 I made a VPS on host1free.com 11:28 artur99 and now with PuTTy I am trying to do something 11:28 artur99 but idk what 11:47 JesseH artur was here for a whole 5 minutes and no one helped him! Shame :P 11:50 Krock "4.10 | Please be patient, responses may take a while | Rule" 12:17 Jordach Krock, perfecly symmetrical selection, has 5 characters (inc. spaces) to the left of the | 12:18 Krock Jordach, yeah. great selection 12:57 PenguinDad I think lua mapgens hate me 13:02 * sfan5 meows at PenguinDad 13:03 PenguinDad it could also be possible that everyone who created a lua mapgen loves snow :/ 13:07 * Krock is happy about his superduper skins updater 13:08 Krock added automatic deletion of no longer existend skins on the database and ignore unchanged files 13:08 Krock :) 13:09 * Krock tests it 13:09 * PenguinDad is happy about his much better panes mod 13:12 * Krock updated 39 / ~360 skins :) 13:27 Krock wut? access violation 4 times in a row when trying to connect? 13:28 PenguinDad Krock: I've had more segfaults in a row yesterday 13:29 * sfan5 meows at Krock 13:30 * Krock meows at sfan5 13:30 * PenguinDad squawks at both 13:37 * twoelk wonders how to interprete those utterences reminding of the sounds at a zoo 13:39 Lugal hello 13:39 Lugal how can I increase my building range in creativ mode? 13:40 Krock open games/minetest_game/mods/creative/init.lua 13:41 Krock hmm 13:42 Krock I'd add something like minetest.registered_tools[""].range = 30 to the codes..no idea if it would work 13:49 Lugal worked, thanks :) 14:10 Krock np 14:55 Lugal If I make a map, will I be able to use it in newer versions of the game too? is there something like a converter? or do I have to start a new map if a new version of the game comes out? 14:59 AnotherBrick you will be able to use it in newer versions 15:03 sfan5 Lugal: unlike Minecraft, Minetest is highly backwards compatible 15:06 twoelk Lugal: you may have some minor conflicts though with some nodes supplied by mods, as Minetest Next has been merged into the default game. Thus for example a standalone boats mod might get in conflict with the boats mod now included in the default Minetest-game. Nothing that should break the map though. 15:08 Calinou sfan5, both are quite backwards compatible, but very old worlds will require work in both versions 15:08 Calinou eg. worlds made before 0.2_20110922 require a sectors → sqlite conversion 15:08 sfan5 Calinou: what about connecting to a server with a newer/older version? 15:08 Calinou worlds made after that will be converted using aliases 15:08 Calinou oh, protocol almost always changes on new Minecraft releases, but it's usually not without reason 15:09 Calinou (but it has been a few times) 15:09 sfan5 I'm pretty sure 0.2 maps still work with todays Minetest 15:09 sfan5 there is code for it 15:09 Calinou use sectors2sqlite.py first 15:09 Calinou maps made after 0.2_20110922 are already sqlite, so they'll work, but facedir of nodes may be lost 15:09 sfan5 I mean C++ code 15:10 Calinou legacy items won't be converted 15:17 twoelk it could be usefull to have a one button tool to get a list of unknown items in a world. That list could be used to make rules like when a mobs mod got deleted, all the unknown objects formally known as sheep get deleted while the meat gets transformed to apples. 15:30 GhostDoge Has someone still got this map? https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=915 15:32 thefamilygrog66 howdy folks 15:32 GhostDoge hi thefamilygrog66 15:33 thefamilygrog66 Any tricks in getting a server to show up in the public servers list? I'm not sure what I'd doing wrong... 15:36 thefamilygrog66 Firewall ports, possibly? 15:37 Krock server_annunce = true 15:38 thefamilygrog66 Yes, Krock - it looks like this: 15:38 thefamilygrog66 # Automaticaly report to masterserver server_announce = true # Announce to this masterserver. if you want to announce your ipv6 address - use serverlist_url = v6.servers.minetest.net serverlist_url = servers.minetest.net 15:39 Krock yup. and if your firewall has UDP port 30000 open, then t will work 15:40 thefamilygrog66 Pretty sure I set it to have both UDP/TCP 30000 open 15:40 thefamilygrog66 Both on the computer itself and on the router. 15:41 thefamilygrog66 I can log into the server via minetest client no problem. It's weird. 15:41 thefamilygrog66 Adam will know the answer... 15:46 GhostDoge "Minetest has a codebase with a long source history maintained by a very large development team with stable Y-O-Y commits." \o/ 15:48 Calinou it's properly commented unlike Cube 2 15:50 GhostDoge Calinou: after ohlol minetest has a comment rate of 22% 15:50 GhostDoge *ohloh 15:52 Calinou “ohlol” heh 15:55 rubenwardy wow http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filtertype:Name,filter:Jesus 16:01 Krock such creative 16:11 Krock DogePony, I love you (ponies) 16:12 DogePony I love my connection 16:14 * PenguinDad puts Pinkie Pie on Krock's head 16:14 VanessaE hi all 16:14 PenguinDad hi VanessaE 16:17 rubenwardy !seen EvergreenTree 16:17 MinetestBot rubenwardy: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-07-10 02:24:31 UTC on #minetest 16:19 Calinou hi 16:55 rubenwardy First attempt at Manga / Anime style art. https://mediacru.sh/mCc0wCoz04-y 16:55 rubenwardy Unfortunately, I don't have a scanner, so I had to use a photograph, and then go over the lines in GIMP. Which makes it jagged. 16:57 nman3600 VanessaE, Are you currently on Krock's server? 16:58 nman3600 Is VE Awake? 16:59 PenguinDad rubenwardy: at least better than I could draw it :P 17:01 rubenwardy !seen VanessaE 17:01 MinetestBot rubenwardy: vanessae was last seen at 2014-07-10 21:14:32 UTC on #minetest 17:02 nman3600 Someone is apparently VE on Krock's server (I don't believe them) 17:02 Krock I'm reading the dev wiki 17:03 Krock and my CPU sais: 10% usage, so - nope. not me 17:03 PenguinDad lol 17:05 Krock - Idlezeit: 31 min, 14 sec 17:05 Krock @message, 5 mins ago 17:08 domtron rubenwardy: you should try out blenders NPR options. I've been working with it over the last couple of weeks: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8286519/cat%20model/face/face7-test.png https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8286519/cat%20model/face/face7.png 17:09 rubenwardy Interesting 17:09 nman3600 Krock, Can Rhys have moderator on your server (I trust him well) 17:12 Krock nman3600, sinve when is "moderator" claimable? 17:12 Krock > have 17:12 nman3600 Krock, He's trustworth and he's been helping me with moderator issues (before I get the chance to talk) 17:13 Vazon you can claim a word?? O.o i want to claim a word lol 17:13 Krock Vazon, sure you can. *gives you "word"* 17:13 Vazon but but i dont like the word "word" :( can i get a refund? 17:13 PenguinDad I want a moderator too :P 17:14 Krock "mod" are better, you don't know if "modification" or "moderator" is meant 17:14 Krock s/are/is 17:15 domtron rubenwardy: Quick search found this http://blendernpr.org/tag/anime/ 17:16 Krock lol 17:16 Krock that made him leaving 17:17 PenguinDad Krock: must have been a shock site ;) 17:17 Krock definitely 17:18 Krock use /quit! 17:18 * PenguinDad is not going to use /quit 17:21 hoodedice >EA 17:22 hoodedice > be 10th year Battlefield anniversary 17:22 hoodedice > Make BF 1942 free for everyone 17:22 hoodedice > Gamespy shut down. 17:22 hoodedice > "We can't distribute BF1942 like this" 17:22 hoodedice > Removes BF1942 from Origin. 17:23 hoodedice WTF EA? 17:24 rubenwardy Origin: Why have just the NSA when you can have the NSA and EA? 17:24 JesseH EA, stands for something clever and offensive. 17:26 hoodedice Even worse, they ended support for BF2, BF2142, and a load of other good old games 17:27 hoodedice There are unofficial servers available, but EA just won't make those games entirely free 17:31 hoodedice 40% off Goat Sim 2014 17:33 Calinou doesn't make it worth purchasing 17:34 hoodedice now $5 17:34 hoodedice > $5 < 17:35 hoodedice nah, I agree with you anyway 17:35 hoodedice I don't even play Garry's Mod 17:37 Calinou Minetest is $ 0 17:37 Calinou permanent 17:37 Calinou works on all major OS, no DRM, you have freedom 17:37 Calinou oh and it lasts more than 4 hours 17:37 hoodedice Well 17:38 hoodedice The day when we get lagless first person combat with guns in a PvE environment 17:38 hoodedice ... I don't know what I would do that day... 17:38 hoodedice In any case, the gamer side of me is unasatisfied with open source efforts in games 17:39 hoodedice There are cases like Minetest and Flightgear, where the community is at least TRYING 17:39 Jordach hoodedice, neincraft :3 17:39 Calinou The day when we get lagless first person combat with guns in a PvE environment 17:39 Calinou PvE environment? 17:39 hoodedice Or I must say, the games are kinda good 17:39 Calinou In any case, the gamer side of me is unasatisfied with open source efforts in games 17:39 Calinou 1) you're not entitled to anything 2) it relies on volunteers, not paid people 17:39 hoodedice Person vs Environment 17:39 Calinou 3) most gamers' minds are fundamentally incompatible with free software 17:40 hoodedice 1) Yes, I am not. But I can have. 17:40 hoodedice 2) Yes, but the lack of volunteers is disheartening 17:40 PenguinDad Xonotic and Red Eclipse are really good imo 17:40 hoodedice 3) Go away. Why am I here then? 17:40 hoodedice Penguin, I dislike fast paced shooters 17:41 hoodedice There is this f2p open source wolfenstein game with a mod 17:41 hoodedice Which is very hard to set up 17:41 hoodedice It looks good, but I think it sucks in all respect 17:42 Calinou ET:L is fard from hard to set up; it has an installer which downloads game data for you 17:42 Calinou even if you don't use the installer, I fail to see how moving .pk3 files to somewhere is hard 17:42 Calinou hoodedice, well, Red Eclipse is not that fast 17:42 Calinou it's even medium-paced on some maps like center 17:43 rubenwardy grr. Why do switches fall through if there is no break;? Why would that ever be needed! 17:43 hoodedice This one: http://www.truecombatelite.com/ 17:43 hoodedice "Today we received the awesome news that TrueCombat:Elite has been Greenlit on Steam!" 17:44 Calinou TCE is crap 17:44 hoodedice Great, I'll just get it off Steam, then. 17:44 Jordach fuck your awesomely realistic games 17:44 Calinou what you want is ET:L 17:44 Calinou http://etlegacy.com 17:44 Jordach i'll go play TF2 17:44 Calinou TCE isn't free/libre IIRC, anyway 17:44 Calinou and it's quite dead 17:44 Jordach hoodedice, TF2? 17:44 hoodedice not today 17:44 hoodedice Don't feel like 17:44 Jordach D: 17:44 hoodedice =/ 17:45 hoodedice Who the heck sad red eclipse was anything slow?! 17:45 Calinou TCE doesn't exactly look good anyway 17:45 Calinou http://tesseract.gg → this is “look good” 17:45 Calinou hoodedice, me, it can be slow sometimes 17:45 Calinou you do realize all maps are not the same 17:45 hoodedice It has friggin bhopping! 17:46 Calinou both of these games lack strafe jumping 17:46 Calinou bunny hopping refers to using a trick to keep high speed while turning in air. 17:46 Calinou jumping repeatedly is not bunny hopping 17:46 hoodedice I beg to differ 17:46 Calinou it can be done in any game, even TF2 with a script 17:46 Calinou you can jump repeatedly IRL 17:46 Calinou also, jumping all the time makes for a bad player 17:46 Calinou you're predictable 17:47 hoodedice Tesserect has a nice engine 17:47 hoodedice nah, when you are flashbanged, better jump around than crouching 17:49 Calinou war simulators aren't fun and teach people bad things 17:51 hoodedice *shakes head* 17:51 Calinou shake your head as much as you want, but gaming isn't an end to everything anyway 17:53 hoodedice Indeed it is not. 17:58 Krock horray. an other issue. 18:10 Calinou you seem to think it is 18:10 Calinou like, it's the end of the world if no games satisfy you 18:24 * Calinou salutes 18:24 Calinou do that again → month ban 18:24 smoke_fumus appa 18:24 Calinou I don't joke with harassment and people harassing me in general, it happens often enough 18:25 smoke_fumus Yeah, even though you are being a jerk yourself 18:25 smoke_fumus don't want people to harrass you - don't be a jerk. 18:25 smoke_fumus simple rule. 18:25 sfan5 wat 18:25 Calinou you're quite the one being a jerk here 18:25 sfan5 Calinou: what did smoke_fumus do? 18:26 smoke_fumus sfan5: not on this channel, he kicked me when i shoved him dow non #opengameart 18:26 sfan5 Calinou: this is not how this is supposed to work 18:26 smoke_fumus Calinou: yeah, need i remind you your dick-less bitching about my swf upload and today about your yelling at me to burn just because i upload my music on newgrounds? That's being a total dickless jerk. 18:27 Calinou keep it off with the attacks and swear words, please 18:27 smoke_fumus keep it off from being a jerk, and i'll lay down my cock-full spear 18:27 AnotherBrick now THAT is a decent reason to kick/ban/mute/whatever 18:28 smoke_fumus AnotherBrick: sarcasm or honest? 18:29 AnotherBrick second 18:29 Calinou I don't think banning you will solve things 18:29 Calinou but if you harass me even once here, you'll be banned 18:30 Calinou this includes calling me an extrem¡st or such, btw. 18:30 smoke_fumus Calinou: uh.......what? 18:30 smoke_fumus how this has to do with anything? 18:30 smoke_fumus i mean calling you extrimist 18:31 Calinou I'm sure it'll happen some day 18:32 smoke_fumus uh, you just divided on zero 18:36 * VanessaE peeks in... 18:36 VanessaE damn, what did I miss? :P 18:36 Krock 3rd world war. 18:36 sfan5 not much 18:37 Calinou me being harassed 18:37 Calinou you wouldn't like it, VanessaE 18:38 VanessaE Calinou: oh, well nothing unusual then? ;) 18:38 Calinou no, but it's not funny at that point 18:38 VanessaE understood 18:38 * VanessaE scrolls back a bit... 18:39 AnotherBrick btw Calinou, your warning about month ban was just after you kicked fumus and right before he joined 18:43 VanessaE I have to admit I'm confused about that kick and ban warning as well. 18:43 VanessaE however the follow-up commentary from smoke_fumus was un-called-for in any case. 19:52 Krock VanessaE, why are your servers not on inchra.net? I thought the IRC mod tries to re-connect 19:56 EvergreenTree Krock: same thing happens to me 19:56 EvergreenTree on isis.inchra.net and irc.inchra.net 19:56 EvergreenTree as well as anubis.inchra.net 19:56 Krock Well, I'm on anubis since 10 hours and 3 players online...still 19:57 Krock is that not all connected together? - or in other words: does it matter which server I connect to? 19:57 EvergreenTree Idk 19:58 Krock I see 19:58 Krock moved to shadowninja.minetest.net 19:58 hoodedice What did I miss? 19:59 hoodedice Can't see much in the logs 20:00 * hoodedice walks away 20:05 twoelk the inchra.net servers sometimes get split. The VE servers are usually on isis. Horus and anubis had some downtime now and then 20:08 sfan5 Calinou: are you visiting? :) 20:15 sfan5 !c (60000*60000*3)/1024 20:15 MinetestBot 10546875 20:15 sfan5 !c (60000*60000*3)/1024.0/1024 20:15 MinetestBot 10299.6826171875 20:15 sfan5 !c (60000*60000*3)/1024.0/1024/1024 20:15 MinetestBot 10.058283805847168 20:17 sfan5 !c (36112*13472*3)/1024.0/1024/1024 20:17 MinetestBot 1.3592677116394043 20:17 thefamilygrog66 sfan, and the calculations... 20:18 hoodedice sfan5, ##minetestbot 20:19 sfan5 hoodedice: calculation as related to #minetest 20:19 hoodedice spam. 20:19 sfan5 pff 20:19 hoodedice PFFFT 20:19 * sfan5 meows 20:22 * Sokomine pats sfan5 automaticly 20:22 * Sokomine puts a bowl of milk down 20:22 * sfan5 purrs 20:22 * sfan5 noms the milk 20:22 * sfan5 noms the bowl 20:22 * sfan5 curls up to Sokomine's lap 20:23 hoodedice Hai Sokomine 20:24 Sokomine hi :-) 20:24 * Sokomine continues to pat sfan5 20:24 * sfan5 meows 20:25 Sokomine hm. now i caught myshelf a cat...but what i really need is a native speaker who can help me out with random village names :-) 20:25 Calinou Creatures mod spawning is quite broken 20:25 Calinou dozens of zombies and ghosts spawned next to me at night 20:26 Sokomine spawning seems to be a problem of all mob mods to some degree or another. such odd things have been observed in all of them 20:26 hoodedice What kind of native =P? 20:26 Sokomine english 20:26 hoodedice I'm native to planet Earth 20:26 Sokomine doesn't count :-) 20:26 hoodedice hmm, not English, but let me dig some Latn roots 20:26 Calinou it depends on the spawning method, eg. Simple Mobs uses ABMs 20:26 Calinou Sokomine, never had that with mobs in Carbone 20:27 Sokomine hmm. the villages of the typ medieval might get german names...it'd make a bit of sense at least. but then most people won't understand those names at all 20:27 Calinou this one: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9656 20:27 hoodedice Anglo-Saxon 20:27 sfan5 Calinou: yes, it's broken 20:27 Sokomine calinou: based on my experience with all mobs mods, you probably didn't let it run long enough. or with enough players 20:27 Calinou then it's an engine bug 20:28 twoelk|2 strange, can't connect to the www part of the internet anymore after all my connections collapsed 20:28 Sokomine twoelk: nameserver problem? 20:28 twoelk|2 could be 20:28 twoelk|2 oh 20:28 hoodedice Soko, my way of genning names: Tree (lignum) House (domum) 20:29 Calinou bye 20:29 hoodedice Mix and Mash: lidomum 20:29 hoodedice Bye 20:29 hoodedice So, there's your fist name, Lidomum village 20:29 Sokomine hoodedice: i'm afraid that wouldn't work. none of the houses look like they might fit into that time period 20:30 hoodedice As I see it, a few years down the lineand it would become Lidom (Lai-dum) village 20:30 Sokomine i'm rather thinking of something else. but i do need a native speaker (or someone really really good with english) in order to sort out weather those names would be plain silly or acceptable 20:30 Sokomine :-) 20:30 hoodedice Just like Londonimium became London 20:30 * sfan5 throws Jordach at Sokomine 20:30 twoelk btw there are quite a lot of fantasy name generators out there 20:30 * hoodedice throws rubenwardy at Sokomine 20:31 EvergreenTree One does not simply through a joepie91 20:31 EvergreenTree whoops 20:31 EvergreenTree *Jordach 20:31 hoodedice lel 20:31 hoodedice *throw 20:31 Sokomine yes. one of those might do as well. but i'd rather like something else 20:31 * hoodedice throws myself 20:31 * EvergreenTree roots himself 20:31 hoodedice *himself 20:31 twoelk got examples ? 20:31 EvergreenTree no one is throwing me 20:31 Sokomine rooted trees are good 20:31 * hoodedice sets EvergreenTree on fire 20:32 * Sokomine pours some water on evergreentree 20:32 EvergreenTree OW 20:32 * hoodedice chops EvergreenTree and makes paper 20:32 EvergreenTree What was that for? 20:32 twoelk tree based village names? 20:32 * EvergreenTree regenerates 20:32 Jordach sfan5, throwing me will probably kill you 20:32 EvergreenTree I am every Evergreen Tree you have ever seen 20:32 sfan5 D: 20:32 Jordach i weigh almost at 100kg 20:32 * sfan5 meows at Jordach 20:32 hoodedice To give you this letter with this drawing on it: http://i.imgur.com/etjgJ2D.jpg 20:32 * sfan5 goes to sleep 20:33 * hoodedice thinks Jordach is fat 20:33 sfan5 hoodedice: I knew it before I opened the image: dickbutt 20:33 hoodedice =D 20:33 twoelk hmm, "Pineville, Holyoaks....." 20:33 * sfan5 really goes to sleep 20:33 * EvergreenTree slaps hoodedice with a branch 20:33 * hoodedice pats sfan5 20:33 * hoodedice tucks in sfan5 20:33 Calinou EvergreenTree, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/Ms5q4iXOHyWC.jpg 20:34 hoodedice Soko, lemme pass you some 'Murican names 20:34 Jordach i wonder if EvergreenTree ever becomes a bank clerk 20:34 Jordach then his business might branch out 20:34 EvergreenTree Oh, I see you have found a MonsterTree 20:34 Sokomine sleep well :-) 20:34 EvergreenTree Lel 20:34 hoodedice Sheffield Village, Avon, Lakewood, Brighton... 20:34 * Sokomine puts sfan5 into a basket with a soft cussion 20:35 hoodedice Cleveland. With a nice Cleaveland video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysmLA5TqbIY&feature=kp 20:35 Sokomine hm, lakewood sounds good. but: what's the general pattern of these? 20:35 Calinou I remade the texture of the tree monster 20:36 hoodedice Lots of old town names here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/Cleveland,+OH/@41.4056488,-81.778816,10z/data=!4m2!3m1!1s0x8830ef2ee3686b2d:0xed04cb55f7621842 20:36 sfan5 Sokomine: cushion* 20:37 twoelk descriptive-adjective+geographicnoun? 20:37 hoodedice That is for villages with forests near the sea 20:37 twoelk or otherway round as in "LakePlacid" 20:38 hoodedice For villages in colder climes, use finnish names 20:38 twoelk the "at" froze away? 20:38 hoodedice https://www.google.com/maps/place/37100+Nokia,+Finland/@61.7415485,24.1765078,314460m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x468ed16a2395ee57:0x400b551554bb940 20:40 twoelk I want my name servers back, can't follow them links grrrrr 20:40 Sokomine hoodedice: google maps works only to a limited degree for me 20:40 hoodedice ? 20:40 sfan5 twoelk: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 20:40 hoodedice just click the links, and wait for a bit, the names will appear, don't move it about 20:41 hoodedice oh, and, Iran, for deserts: https://www.google.com/maps/@29.3910855,52.2583173,507494m/data=!3m1!1e3 20:42 Miner_48er sfan5 are you on linuxgaming.us or is it an impostor? 20:42 sfan5 I'm not on any server ATM 20:42 Sokomine hmm. but you're up to something...village names depending on biome might be nice. through probably a bit too much 20:43 Sokomine there seem to be a lot of impostors lately 20:46 twoelk interesting, I can connect to the forum but not to the irc logs? 20:46 twoelk and not to google :-D 20:46 EvergreenTree the irc logs are a different site 20:48 sfan5 31<sfan5>30 twoelk: 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 20:48 * twoelk knows that, still interesting 20:48 twoelk tried that 20:48 twoelk didn't work 20:51 twoelk oh well time to reboot the router 21:20 Lugal good evening 21:20 Lugal can someone explain me these line from creatures? : physics = { 21:20 Lugal speed = 10, 21:20 Lugal jump = 10, 21:20 Lugal gravity = 10, 21:20 Lugal }, 21:20 Lugal teams = {monsters = -0.4, people = 0.6, animals = 0.1}, 21:21 RealBadAngel Lugal, ask Taoki bout it 21:22 Taoki Lugal: 1, not 10. They define movement speed offsets, based on movement speeds in minetest.conf 21:22 hoodedice And please use gist at github 21:24 Lugal nothing changed when I made 10 of it. they still move same speed 21:25 hoodedice "offset" 21:25 hoodedice I think it is a ratio 21:25 hoodedice 10:10:10 would still be 1:1:1 21:26 Lugal ah ok ^^ 21:26 Taoki It's a multiplier 21:27 Lugal and what are the numbers in the teams? 21:30 Taoki Lugal: How much each creature is pro or con a certain interest. The sum of all differences decides whether two creatures are enemies or friends 21:30 Taoki And to what extent 21:30 Lugal so if I replace 0.6 by 10 the will fight more often? 21:31 Lugal or -0.4 by -4 21:31 Taoki It must range between 0 and 1. And not exactly 21:31 Lugal -0.5 = 50% chance that they fight? 21:31 Taoki If for the same interest a creature has 0.4, while another has -0.4, they will both be neutral, as it's 0.4 + -0.4 21:32 Taoki Or I think, don't remember by memory 21:32 Lugal k, thanks :) 21:32 Taoki NP. See the function in init.lua, the calculation is done there 21:56 Lugal is Agressivity also ranging from 0 to 1? 21:56 Lugal how to set aggressivity and fear, to make them always fight? 21:57 Lugal and what means determination? 23:02 Lugal I cant respawn as a human anymore. can anyone help? 23:03 Lugal only when I attack him , then I can incarnate