IRC log for #minetest, 2014-07-09

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00:46	telek1	hummelBop: What speed/capacity cpu/videocard/ram, are you using mods or just minetest_game, etc?
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03:03	hummeleBop	my computer was slow because of microsoft updates
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06:11	emerge	Hello
06:11	LemonLake	こんいちは
06:12	LemonLake	こんにちは*
06:12	emerge	:P
06:13	VanessaE	wat
06:13	LemonLake	hm?
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06:13	kaeza	( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
06:13	kaeza	mornings
06:13	LemonLake	good day
06:14	kaeza	https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zdu0d5ZhqP0/U00uH-cUYSI/AAAAAAAAJpk/rqFNB2frEOE/w702-h527-no/give+this+guy+a+Medal.jpg
06:14	LemonLake	hmm....
06:14	LemonLake	yeeeeessss it shoooould make it 64bit
06:14	LemonLake	give it a go
06:14	VanessaE	nice, a jpg of a screenshot that's barely readable
06:15	LemonLake	"I have a question,
06:15	VanessaE	oh G*d.  people are really that dumb?
06:15	VanessaE	(the guy's question)
06:15	LemonLake	ah you read it
06:15	kaeza	probably trolling :P
06:15	kaeza	(?)
06:15	LemonLake	^
06:15	LemonLake	but people ARE that dumb
06:15	kaeza	^
06:16	emerge	I need help with my function. http://pastebin.com/TXgkBFM3 It should add a bunch of nodes with same specs, except for drawtype.
06:16	LemonLake	Unless this is part of a game, I wouldn't recommend putting it in default
06:16	emerge	Ok.
06:16	emerge	It's a game.
06:17	LemonLake	looks good to me
06:17	emerge	And problem is in different place. When I place a node generated by this function it turns into fence.
06:17	VanessaE	LemonLake: I read that post to my husband.
06:17	VanessaE	<Abe> WHAT?!
06:17	LemonLake	?
06:18	LemonLake	Oh i see
06:18	LemonLake	that confused me for a sec
06:18	LemonLake	VanessaE: Eeeyup
06:18	kaeza	emerge, you are modifying `data' in-place; try copying the table
06:18	LemonLake	^
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06:18	LemonLake	Since "fencelike" is the last one, its the chosen one for all of them
06:18	kaeza	(in each loop iteration)
06:19	emerge	kaeza, ok thx
06:19	hoodedice	morning
06:20	kaeza	mornings hoodedice
06:20	VanessaE	meanwhile, abe just spotted a cute sticker on feeBay, via a facebook post.  Simon's Cat, pointing at his food bowl, designed such that you paste it over your car's fuel fill door :)
06:20	emerge	kaeza, it works
06:20	LemonLake	おはよう！
06:20	hoodedice	Van, what post?
06:20	VanessaE	also, good morning kaeza  :)
06:21	VanessaE	https://www.facebook.com/magyarsimonscat/photos/a.210459552305508.55796.208295702521893/833434770007980/?type=1
06:21	kaeza	hah
06:21	LemonLake	okay, now that's something cool
06:21	VanessaE	(sorry, the post there doesn't link to eBay, he had to search for it)
06:21	hoodedice	nice
06:21	VanessaE	wwait, yeah it does - in one of the comments.
06:22	* hoodedice	goes back to skyrim
06:22	LemonLake	http://www.ebay.com/itm/Funny-Simons-Cat-1-Big-Decals-Stickers-Graphics-Kitty-Auto-Vinyl-Window-Car-/171229198557?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&amp;var&amp;hash=item27de0e38dd&amp;vxp=mtr
06:22	hoodedice	I installed skyrim twice, now it runs two times faster on my celeron =P
06:22	LemonLake	comic sans ruined it
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06:23	hoodedice	> $6
06:23	hoodedice	I would rather put up a sticker with a MT nyan cat
06:23	hoodedice	But I would likely be buying a MANLY CAR
06:23	LemonLake	manly car?
06:23	hoodedice	SO IT WILL HAVE MANLY STICKERS
06:23	LemonLake	a car is a car
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06:24	hoodedice	LIKE THIS http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9mibjmfkj1qdsggv.jpg
06:24	LemonLake	oh
06:24	VanessaE	heh
06:25	hoodedice	Lemon, cars like the eclipse are girly
06:25	LemonLake	getting a job will be fun
06:25	hoodedice	I saw this guy driving a pink eclipse with eyelashes on the headlights
06:26	LemonLake	95 layers...
06:26	hoodedice	!tw 486748674412666881
06:26	LemonLake	346 paths...
06:26	MinetestBot	Oh yes, just in case you noticed stuff is different in 0.4.10, this is because we are using minetest_next as the default subgame =D (@MinetestCommune)
06:26	LemonLake	and im STILL
06:26	LemonLake	NOT
06:26	LemonLake	DONE
06:27	hoodedice	Lemon, inkscape or gimp?
06:27	LemonLake	gimp, don't like working with inkscape
06:27	hoodedice	=O
06:27	hoodedice	inkscape is the future
06:27	LemonLake	i'd normally use photoshop but over the time of making this image, photoshop < gimp
06:27	LemonLake	plus, with all the processing i have to do for certain features, inkscape will not work
06:27	hoodedice	oh'
06:32	LemonLake	8.5mb
06:32	LemonLake	:/
06:32	LemonLake	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/m_iyYxYeiJRk.png
06:33	VanessaE	very nice
06:33	LemonLake	that there is 98 layers, 353 paths and 8.5mb
06:34	LemonLake	I wonder if mediacrush go through their submissions....I know the maker of the site is a clannad fan
06:38	JesseH	Are there faster ways to cut down trees?
06:38	LemonLake	in default, no
06:39	LemonLake	there are timber mods out there, and krock's server has a chainsaw built-in to bitchange
06:39	JesseH	Oh okay. I'm looking for ways to progress as a tree farmer. :P
06:39	LemonLake	(which i believe is exclusive to said server)
06:39	JesseH	But it seems I've hit my limit on what I can do in a day.
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06:40	nman3600	Hi
06:40	LemonLake	おはよう!
06:41	telek1	'99 and older GST/GSX eclipses kick ***. I will agree the majority of eclipse models suck however.
06:42	nman3600	Is there a "double chests mod" Like if you put a chest next to a chest it expands. There's one in MiniTest, But it's in a game and it won't help... Anyone?
06:42	LemonLake	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2558
06:42	LemonLake	!title
06:42	MinetestBot	LemonLake: [Mod] Big Chests [0.2] [bigchests] - Minetest Forums
06:43	nman3600	That's not what I'm looking for
06:43	nman3600	That's just a chest with double slots
06:43	LemonLake	if you're that desperate, i can nab it out of minitest
06:43	nman3600	LemonLake, Please.
06:44	LemonLake	owow that's a lotta code
06:44	nman3600	I know
06:44	LemonLake	this might take some time
06:44	LemonLake	don't go releasing this, i doubt pilzadam will be hpapy
06:44	nman3600	No It's just for my singleplayer worlds, LemonLake.
06:45	VanessaE	bbl
06:45	nman3600	Okay, VanessaE.
06:46	LemonLake	VanessaE: さようなら！
06:48	JesseH	What would you guys do with a largish flat area, in default?
06:50	LemonLake	make it non-flat
06:50	LemonLake	flat areas disgust me
06:50	JesseH	lol
06:50	JesseH	If I shave a tree of its leaves, will they grow back?
06:51	LemonLake	nein
06:52	JesseH	Is that yes? :P
06:52	LemonLake	That means no.
06:52	JesseH	Oh okay
06:52	JesseH	Well poop. :(
06:52	LemonLake	That's a cool idea, though.
06:52	LemonLake	Might make a mod that does that.
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06:53	sylph	Hello
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06:53	sylph	Hi
06:54	Jordach	tl;dr i borked my internal clock
06:54	sylph	Just wanted to say that the new update hasn't been mentioned on Reddit.
06:54	sylph	So it should be mentioned to get more publicity
06:55	Jordach	sfan5, 7-1!
06:56	JesseH	Cactus is cool because you can use what you get to make more. But I haven;t found a use for it. Except as a self-growing wall
06:56	Jordach	it does keep mobs out
06:56	hoodedice	hello Jordach
06:56	kaeza	<Jordach> sfan5, 7-1! wat
06:56	kaeza	just... WTF Brazil?
06:57	Jordach	kaeza, Germans got 7 goals against brazil :3
06:57	JesseH	For some reason, the cactus doesnt hurt when I touch it.
06:57	sylph	So should I mention it on Reddit?
06:57	Jordach	JesseH, never has, never will
06:57	hoodedice	Jordach: want to play your games? just ping me
06:57	JesseH	:(
06:57	kaeza	JesseH, o/
06:57	JesseH	Oh it works as fuel for a furnace too! That's useful
06:57	JesseH	I will now start a cactus farm
06:57	JesseH	kaeza, yoyo
06:57	sylph	btw are the new mods compatible with the new version?
06:58	hoodedice	sylph, go ahead
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06:58	Jordach	hoodedice, MOOOOOOOVE
06:58	hoodedice	I JUST STARTED
06:58	Jordach	TF2 got beta maps
06:58	hoodedice	okay
06:58	Jordach	GTFO
06:59	hoodedice	k
06:59	hoodedice	<hoodedice> sylph, go ahead
07:00	kaeza	sylph, most mods are compatible, yes, as the API has not changed much
07:00	LemonLake	さようなら
07:01	kaeza	(with the obvious exception of mods in "Old Mods" section)
07:02	* kaeza	should really finish his xban2 GUI
07:02	kaeza	and firearms not working, and homedecor locked signs, and... too much in TODO.txt :<
07:03	hoodedice	<sylph> Just wanted to say that the new update hasn't been mentioned on Reddit.
07:03	hoodedice	r/Minetest front page
07:03	hoodedice	"Minetest 0.4.10 released!" sfan5, 2 days ago
07:04	sylph	huh
07:04	sylph	Couldn't find it by searching
07:04	hoodedice	http://www.reddit.com/r/Minetest/comments/2a029b/minetest_0410_released/
07:04	hoodedice	FRONT PAGE
07:04	hoodedice	It's like
07:04	hoodedice	7 upvotes and shiz mate
07:04	hoodedice	HOW DID YOU MISS THAT?!
07:04	kaeza	Jordach, you haven't fixed the animated chests yet :(
07:04	* kaeza	slaps hoodedice
07:04	hoodedice	I AM GOING FULL RETARD, I SHOULD NOT GO FULL RETARD
07:05	hoodedice	ow
07:05	hoodedice	thanks kaeza
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07:06	sylph	Which is the best mob mod?
07:07	sylph	I want something that I can work on and improve.
07:07	sylph	Like, something semi-cannon
07:07	hoodedice	THere is stu's mob framework
07:07	hoodedice	Best in my opinion, but no longer actively updated
07:08	hoodedice	So I would recommend MitseaKitsune's Creatures
07:08	JesseH	How can I set fires?
07:08	JesseH	Seems ill need lava
07:09	sylph	I found it in Creative, Jess, but not sure about survival
07:10	sylph	Woah
07:10	sylph	In MirceaKitsune'a mod,
07:10	sylph	I can play with the mobs!
07:10	sylph	I've been waiting forever for minecraft to implenet that
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07:15	hoodedice	sylph: Minecraft?
07:16	hummeleBop	mine-what ?
07:18	JesseH	so, ive been digging down for a while
07:18	sylph	-.-
07:18	sylph	Nvm
07:18	JesseH	not sure whats going on
07:18	JesseH	where da lava at? ;)
07:19	kaeza	right under you >:D
07:19	kaeza	it can appear anywhere
07:19	JesseH	Lets hope I dont step on it
07:21	JesseH	Im not even digging stairs down, im just digging down.
07:21	JesseH	I'm eager to meet my firey maker?
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07:26	sylph	Just a question.
07:26	sylph	When a mod is added to the core game,
07:26	sylph	is its code changed to C or is it kept as Lau?
07:29	JesseH	I just fell into a cave and died :P
07:29	JesseH	How will I get down there to fetch my stuff
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07:37	JesseH	Well, luckily I had some ladders at the house...couldnt find lava though...no burning man tonight
07:42	telek1	sylph: lua
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07:45	JesseH	LUA
07:46	JesseH	https://github.com/mniip/LUA
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07:49	MinetestBot	GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest_game: Add spaces around operators in boat mod code, fix a problem with boat staticdata, fix a crash that can occur with boat going over unknown nodes. c993e14 2014-07-09T09:47:51+02:00 http://git.io/2bVkkg
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07:53	Krock	moin
07:54	PenguinDad	hi Krock
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07:56	Krock	hi PenguinDad
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08:20	hoodedice	Morning Europeans
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08:27	Ragnar	hello
08:27	Ragnar	=)
08:27	Guest49241	well crap...
08:28	sfan5	meow
08:28	sfan5	hi everyone
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08:29	_Ragnar	ok im back
08:29	_Ragnar	sfan5
08:29	_Ragnar	i am very sorry for the s##t i have done. please don't +q me =/
08:30	_Ragnar	i came here to ask about modding...
08:30	* sfan5	meows at hoodedice
08:31	hoodedice	Hello, my German brother
08:31	_Ragnar	sfan5, is it possible to make a player partially invisible_
08:31	_Ragnar	?
08:31	sfan5	no
08:31	_Ragnar	crap
08:31	hoodedice	sfan, alpha?
08:31	hoodedice	change texture, use transparent PNG?
08:31	_Ragnar	that is a possibility, yes...
08:31	hoodedice	Ragnar, try it!
08:32	_Ragnar	but that would mean that i'll make 8 player skins + 8 58% transparent skins + 3 more skins with transparenty
08:32	_Ragnar	i will
08:32	_Ragnar	but will it work with the 3D players too?
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08:33	_Ragnar	hi jp
08:33	jp	Hi.
08:33	_Ragnar	how's the server going?
08:33	jp	Down for the moment. Back in few hours.
08:33	_Ragnar	ok
08:34	_Ragnar	now hoodedice... it is possible to change the 3D player skins to be different in-game right? with a bit of code in the mod?
08:34	hoodedice	dude
08:34	hoodedice	there is a player.png file in the minetest folders
08:34	hoodedice	find it
08:34	_Ragnar	i know
08:35	hoodedice	change that image
08:35	hoodedice	in game, yes there are mods
08:35	_Ragnar	but i mean like i want there to be 8 kinds of skins at the same time...
08:35	hoodedice	but for scratch testing for now, just do this
08:35	_Ragnar	i know
08:35	hoodedice	what do you want to do?
08:35	_Ragnar	because i'm making a War3FT mod
08:36	_Ragnar	with 8 races
08:36	* _Ragnar	is discluding the Chameleon race
08:36	sfan5	hoodedice: I dunno whether that works
08:36	hoodedice	!g War3ft
08:36	MinetestBot	hoodedice: http://www.war3ft.com/
08:37	_Ragnar	you found it :D
08:37	_Ragnar	it's a CS 1.6 mod
08:37	_Ragnar	that i adore
08:37	_Ragnar	i need the invisibility for the human race and for the Cloak of Shadows
08:38	_Ragnar	sfan5, is it possible to show a player a GUI when entering a command?
08:38	sfan5	sure
08:38	_Ragnar	great
08:39	_Ragnar	sfan5, would it be possible (tho) to create an invisibility parameter to players inside the engine?
08:39	hoodedice	It is
08:39	sfan5	ofc
08:39	_Ragnar	great...
08:39	hoodedice	Anything is possible within the engine
08:40	_Ragnar	i like the sound of that :D
08:40	hoodedice	And I think it is an easy thing too...
08:40	_Ragnar	great-er :D
08:40	_Ragnar	will there be a Minetest 0.4.11?
08:40	* Krock	meows at sfan5
08:40	* sfan5	purrs
08:40	_Ragnar	or will it go to 0.5
08:41	_Ragnar	much kittehz, very purrs, wow
08:41	* Krock	gives _Ragnar https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?milestone=4&amp;state=open
08:42	_Ragnar	oh
08:42	_Ragnar	so i should post it there?
08:43	Krock	post? what?
08:43	Krock	that's the answer on your latest question
08:44	Jordach	sfan5, 7-1
08:44	Jordach	wooooo
08:44	sfan5	Jordach: ik, woooooo
08:45	hoodedice	wooooooo
08:45	hoodedice	football
08:45	Jordach	+1 for correct spelling
08:47	hoodedice	http://imgur.com/gallery/Qz9dK96
08:47	hoodedice	of course
08:47	hoodedice	Growing up in an Arab country and shiz
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08:48	hoodedice	bbl
08:49	hoodedice	sfan5, screenies got fixed?
08:49	sfan5	I don't think they got
08:50	_Ragnar	sfan5, if you would to add transparency to the player model, how long would it take?
08:50	_Ragnar	:D
08:50	hoodedice	sfan, we also got some bugs in the MinGW build
08:50	kaeza	Jordach, https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6368679680/h5C4AEE92/
08:51	sfan5	_Ragnar: I'm pretty sure that already works
08:51	_Ragnar	i mean as a parameter
08:51	_Ragnar	not in the skin
08:51	sfan5	dunno
08:51	sfan5	not long
08:51	_Ragnar	so that i could change the players transparency with code
08:51	hoodedice	Ragnar, do you mean "How long would it take to implement invisibility in the main engine code?"
08:51	_Ragnar	yes
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08:52	hoodedice	"So that I can be lazy and instead of implementing a mod that changes the player skin to transparent on a button press...
08:52	hoodedice	... I can bug some really busy people to do something that is not needed very badly."
08:52	_Ragnar	don't do this
08:52	hoodedice	Dude
08:52	hoodedice	You can do it
08:53	_Ragnar	i don't know any C/C++
08:53	hoodedice	You don't NEED any
08:53	_Ragnar	hokay?
08:53	hoodedice	We have an extensive server side lua based modding system
08:53	_Ragnar	and how should i do it with lua?
08:53	hoodedice	You can do this: make a sorta item that changes player texture on use
08:54	_Ragnar	because i just want to be able to change the player transparency in-game without making a f##kload of skins
08:54	hoodedice	You don't need to make a shitload of skins. The way I see it, you need only 1
08:54	hoodedice	Unless you want to add fx
08:56	hoodedice	do you get it?
08:57	Jordach	sfan5, Braz17 :D
08:57	_Ragnar	no....
08:57	hoodedice	_Ragnar: Yeah it works, setting alpha to 0 does render an invisible player
08:57	_Ragnar	i actually don't... sorry... =|
08:57	hoodedice	okay
08:57	_Ragnar	within lua?
08:57	_Ragnar	cool
08:58	_Ragnar	i'll try that.... :O
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08:58	hoodedice	Ok listen
08:58	hoodedice	Download this mod: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=9680
08:58	hoodedice	Then find the character.png in your minetest_next folder
08:58	hoodedice	Edit it and make it transparent
08:59	hoodedice	Then save it as something else, and add it into this mod I linked
08:59	hoodedice	Switch the skin by using the mod
08:59	hoodedice	Press F7, voila, invisible
09:00	hoodedice	Now rewrite the mod so that the player skin switches on use of an item
09:00	_Ragnar	i will have 8 races, each can buy the Cloak of Shadows (makes the player 58% invisible) and one race can use that + has a skill that makes him invisible about 10%
09:01	_Ragnar	that would mean 2*8+3 skins
09:01	_Ragnar	19
09:01	hoodedice	That;s a lot of skins, but not a lot of work
09:01	hoodedice	=D
09:01	hoodedice	This is hacking
09:02	hoodedice	Finding ways around the API to do stuff that is seemingly not possible on the first look
09:02	_Ragnar	i know
09:02	hoodedice	Good
09:02	_Ragnar	but could lua change the transparency of an image?
09:02	hoodedice	Are you a year older than the last time you were here?
09:03	hoodedice	AFAIK, lua in minetest does not have image manipulation capabilities
09:03	_Ragnar	ofc i am
09:03	_Ragnar	well that sucks...
09:03	hoodedice	!g lua image manipulation
09:03	MinetestBot	hoodedice: http://lua-users.org/wiki/LibrariesAndBindings
09:04	hoodedice	sfan, what is this? http://irrlua.sourceforge.net/
09:04	_Ragnar	IrrLua is a Lua binding for the Irrlicht 3D rendering engine.
09:04	hoodedice	I can read that
09:04	hoodedice	haha
09:05	hoodedice	But, is it the one we use in MT?!
09:05	hoodedice	I thought ours was a custom implementation
09:05	_Ragnar	hmm......
09:09	_Ragnar	hoodedice
09:09	hoodedice	what
09:09	_Ragnar	did you know that c55 is celeron55...
09:09	_Ragnar	and celeron is an intel cpy
09:09	_Ragnar	cpu
09:09	* hoodedice	facepalms
09:09	_Ragnar	thus copyright stuff
09:09	hoodedice	I HAVE AN INTEL CELERON MYSELF, I LOVE IT VERY MUCH AND YES I KNOW THAT C55 IS CELERON55
09:09	_Ragnar	or patent stuff... :D
09:09	hoodedice	I AM MARKED AS AWAY.
09:10	* Krock	haz Intel Celeron (R)(C)(TM) D
09:10	_Ragnar	i also have intel celeron
09:10	_Ragnar	2.35GHz
09:10	_Ragnar	single core
09:10	_Ragnar	also 768MB RAM
09:10	_Ragnar	128MB GPU
09:10	* hoodedice	has dual Intel Celeron1005M @1.9GHz with an intel HD 2500
09:10	_Ragnar	and Windows 7 Ultimate
09:10	* Krock	slaps _Ragnar with 1x @3.06GHz
09:11	* hoodedice	blows all the other celerons out of the water
09:11	_Ragnar	screw you
09:11	* hoodedice	slaps Krock with DUAL FUCKING CORES
09:11	* Krock	slaps hoodedice with OMG SINGLECORE_SUCH_CLASSIC_AND_NOSTALGY
09:12	* hoodedice	slaps Krock with 0.4.10 at 40+ fps with shaders and shiz
09:12	* PenguinDad	slaps Krock with ®©™
09:12	* Krock	slaps hoodedice with 0.4.10-dev_MSVC at 30- fps without shaders and shiz
09:12	* Krock	gives PenguinDad &copy;
09:12	hoodedice	when did you get a dev build?!
09:12	Krock	whenever I want ^
09:12	* hoodedice	is now seriously away
09:13	Krock	I can build my devs self :P
09:13	PenguinDad	Krock: you can build your own PilzAdam? :P
09:14	Krock	PenguinDad, PilzAdam is too poisoned
09:14	Krock	*toxic
09:14	Krock	:3
09:15	Krock	I'd die when I tried to build it
09:16	PenguinDad	> it
09:16	* Krock	created a /regenerate_terrain_omg_such_amazing-chatcommand </offtopic>
09:16	Krock	adam yes, pilz no
09:19	* Krock	gives PenguinDad some ddiscussion stuff
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09:19	Ragnar_droid	Hi
09:20	Jordach	sfan5, http://imgur.com/gallery/Voy1J
09:20	Ragnar_droid	For those who dont know what an droid is, an droid is android
09:20	* Krock	steals Ragnardroid's _
09:21	* Jordach	slaps Ragnar_droid, Krock and hoodedice with an AMD A10 APU @ 4.1GHZ
09:21	Ragnar_droid	Oh noes
09:21	Ragnar_droid	IMPOSSIBRU
09:21	* Krock	gives Jordach a cookie
09:21	Jordach	i can always bump that shit upto ~6.8 GHZ
09:21	Krock	u don't say?
09:21	sfan5	Jordach, meow
09:21	Ragnar_droid	Dafuq dood... How is that even possibru
09:22	Krock	NEOW
09:22	Ragnar_droid	i7?
09:22	Jordach	!c 105*63
09:22	MinetestBot	6615
09:23	Ragnar_droid	Jordac... What cpu do u has
09:23	Ragnar_droid	Doz 4 crappy eng. Imphone
09:23	Ragnar_droid	Soz*
09:23	PenguinDad	Ragnar_droid: AMD A10 APU
09:23	Ragnar_droid	Oh right
09:24	PenguinDad	lol there are Mahogany tables in homedecor
09:25	Ragnar_droid	I have an ati radeon 9800
09:25	Jordach	https://mediacru.sh/09f729e4e40e
09:25	Jordach	bite me
09:25	Ragnar_droid	Suck that, APU
09:25	Jordach	Ragnar_droid, enjoy CPU death at 75C
09:25	Jordach	mine went to 85 and can go onwards
09:25	Jordach	(they made these fackers out of the same shit as a GPU)
09:27	Ragnar_droid	Jordach... I use toothpaste on my cpu.... No way its gonna die
09:29	Krock	!c 4000/288
09:29	MinetestBot	13
09:29	Ragnar_droid	Jordach.. Y u no impressed w/ win7u with 768mb of ddr1ram and a 30gb hdd (ide)
09:29	Krock	!c 4000.0/288.0
09:29	MinetestBot	13.88888888888889
09:30	Ragnar_droid	Krock
09:30	Krock	Jordach, your CPU is about 14 times faster than mine :'(
09:30	Ragnar_droid	Guess what android im using
09:30	Krock	^smartphone android
09:30	Ragnar_droid	Thats because he has a Gpu built in his Cpu
09:31	Ragnar_droid	CPU+GPU=APU
09:32	Krock	still 14 times faster, even when I add my GPU to the CPU benchmark...
09:32	* Krock	switches topics
09:32	Ragnar_droid	Jordach has an Apu... Whoop de doo... http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/23/Apu_Nahasapeemapetilon_%28The_Simpsons%29.png
09:34	Ragnar_droid	Krock. U got any of dem DDR1 rams?
09:36	Ragnar_droid	Hey jordach. Hows it goin
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09:46	Krock	wut? M$ deleted the update page?
09:49	kaeza	https://github.com/kaeza/minetest-xban2/commits/master
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10:00	rubenwardy	Hi all!
10:03	Ragnar_droid	Hi
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10:11	Krock	oh hi rubenwardy
10:12	Krock	ok.
10:15	Calinou	hi
10:16	jp	Salut
10:16	* PenguinDad	just had a game idea
10:17	Krock	hi Calinou, jp, *
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10:34	rubenwardy	Why are the topics in 'builds' stickies?
10:36	Krock	cuz they got moved only
10:37	rubenwardy	ok
10:37	Krock	they keep their attributes if none removes the glue
10:37	rubenwardy	So no conscious reason
10:37	Krock	yup
10:38	rubenwardy	!seen EvergreenTree
10:38	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: evergreentree was last seen at 2014-07-09 03:52:56 UTC on #minetest
10:43	Krock	eeh.
10:43	Krock	http://minetest.fensta.bplaced.net/#!page:1,filter:lovehart,filtertype:Author,
10:44	rubenwardy	!tell EvergreenTree https://github.com/rubenwardy/NodeBoxEditor/blob/master/CMakeLists.txt#L23  try changing to find_package(PNG version REQUIRED) where version is the version of libpng. ie: find_package(PNG 12.3.6 REQUIRED). If it doesn't work, fiddle around with quotes ("12.3.6") and full versions (libpng-12.3.6)
10:44	MinetestBot	rubenwardy: I'll pass that on when EvergreenTree is around
10:44	Krock	o.o
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10:47	PenguinDad	Krocĸ: O.O
10:48	Krock	$.$
10:49	PenguinDad	€.€
10:49	Krock	£.£
10:50	* sfan5	meows at Krock
10:50	* Krock	meows at sfan5
10:52	PenguinDad	¤.¤
10:52	Krock	
11:01	PenguinDad	Oh noes mg broke! http://sprunge.us/jNZY
11:01	sfan5	PenguinDad: wat
11:03	VanessaE	I wonder if...
11:03	* VanessaE	checks her logs
11:05	VanessaE	nope, no errors like that in my logs of the MG server I run
11:05	* Krock	writes visual = " http://paneladebarrorestaurant.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Sprite-Soda.png " into his codes
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11:06	VanessaE	of course hardly no one even signs onto that server, much less plays it, so it's hard to be sure
11:07	PenguinDad	https://github.com/Novatux/mg/commit/2eec47b9ed78250b2a6f5ca984726c34c65ee378#diff-a19d733b8206b789bf84a5efeee58eecL24
11:09	sfan5	Jordach: https://www.google.de/logos/doodles/2014/world-cup-2014-58-6288520071086080.4-hp.gif
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11:23	nore	PenguinDad: oops
11:25	nore	should be fixed now :)
11:25	Jordach	sfan5, https://cdn.mediacru.sh/AuyZxKGDvsgs.png
11:26	sfan5	lol
11:27	rubenwardy	Krock, sprite XD
11:28	Krock	wooo! someone saw it!
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11:43	Krock	rubenwardy, can you solve this maths riddle?
11:43	Krock	1
11:43	Krock	11
11:43	Krock	21
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11:43	Krock	1211
11:43	Krock	tell me the next number :3
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11:45	rubenwardy	111221
11:45	Krock	rubenwardy, ninja'd by nore
11:46	rubenwardy	Well sorry, I was busy coding
11:46	nore	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Look-and-say_sequence
11:49	Lugal	Are there any Zombies, skeletons and creepers in minetest like in Minecraft?
11:51	rubenwardy	See mobf
11:51	Krock	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=8638
11:51	rubenwardy	Simplemobs also adds mobs, but not those listed
11:51	Krock	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9656
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11:54	Lugal	is the game and the mode coded only by using text editor, or do you have a graphical model / world editor?
11:56	sfan5	there is a node box editor
11:56	sfan5	but the rest is done with a text editor
11:57	Krock	graphical model? blender
11:59	Lugal	k, thanks
12:06	rubenwardy	For mobs you use blender or another 3d modelling program. For nodes (aka blocks), such as stairs, chairs, etc you use node boxes.
12:07	PenguinDad	nore: it still crashes http://sprunge.us/jEji
12:08	nore	oops... some local that shouldn't be here
12:09	Lugal	and is there a standart 3d model format/file-extension or does each editor use its own?
12:09	nore	PenguinDad: better now?
12:10	rubenwardy	Lugal: *.x is the most commonly used format, but .3ds and others work too
12:11	PenguinDad	nore: it still doesn't work
12:11	PenguinDad	14:10:49: ERROR[main]: ServerError: /home/vinyl/Minetest/minetest/bin/../mods/mg/init.lua:718: attempt to call upvalue 'villages_at_point' (a nil value)
12:12	nore	PenguinDad, try again now, it should work
12:14	PenguinDad	nore: it's fixed now
12:14	nore	ah, good
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12:20	Jordach	rubenwardy, unless you happen to be me
12:20	Jordach	then i use a mob / node :3
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12:23	PenguinDad	mob + node = mobe
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13:33	Krock	1 hour no talk...
13:34	Zeno`	I've been talking
13:34	Zeno`	To myself
13:35	Zeno`	Krock, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=9686
13:35	Zeno`	^-- have you noticed any server performance issues?
13:35	Krock	nope.avi
13:35	Krock	it was already worse than it is now
13:37	Zeno`	I dunno... I can find the exact commit sapier made, but *for me* server performance is hugely improved
13:37	Zeno`	I dunno
13:37	Zeno`	most people think me crazy anyway
13:38	SylvieLorxu	Does anyone know anything about the licenses of mods in the Minetest mod browser?
13:38	Krock	mod browser?
13:39	SylvieLorxu	Mods -> Online mod repository
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13:40	SylvieLorxu	My git build has that :x
13:40	Krock	oh that one
13:40	Krock	it's broken for me :3
13:40	SylvieLorxu	It works for me but I don't see a license anywhere
13:40	Krock	mostly,it's WTFPL
13:41	SylvieLorxu	WTFPL is the best license
13:41	SylvieLorxu	But still, having that info is something I want readily available because MY FREEDOM :P
13:41	SylvieLorxu	Maybe I should file a bug report on it
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14:03	Krock	split
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14:06	VanessaE	splatsplit :)
14:07	Krock	no.
14:07	Krock	splitsplat
14:07	VanessaE	(well, fake split anyway ;) )
14:07	VanessaE	no, it's splatsplit dammit ;)
14:07	VanessaE	* = splat
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14:11	Krock	http://i.imgur.com/2c1Gs2E.png
14:11	VanessaE	interesting biome algorithm.
14:12	VanessaE	the patterns look familiar somehow...
14:12	PenguinDad	Krock: your mapgen?
14:12	Krock	ice is missing...seems like it needs some work more
14:12	Krock	PenguinDad, yup
14:12	nore	Krock: this is not perlin noise, am I right?
14:12	Krock	it's perlin
14:12	Krock	5x
14:13	nore	what do you mean, 5x?
14:13	Krock	5 perlin maps are used
14:13	nore	ah, ok :)
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14:53	Krock	hmm
14:53	Krock	every 3rd map generation request is a duplicate
14:55	Krock	and somehow, the voxelmanip as mapgen object is much faster than the normal
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15:01	PenguinDad	Krock: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/blob/master/doc/lua_api.txt#L1270-1272
15:03	Krock	PenguinDad, I think it's not releated to the function. It could be because the vmanip as non-mapgen doesn't modify just one complete chunk
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15:05	PenguinDad	Krock: chunk?
15:05	Krock	map block*
15:09	PenguinDad	Krock: the mapgen vmanip modifies 125 map blocks at once
15:09	Krock	^depends on map_meta.txt "chunksize = 4"
15:11	PenguinDad	if you don't modify the chunksize setting it modifies 125 map blocks
15:11	Krock	yes.
15:12	* PenguinDad	doesn't want to try "chunksize = 50"
15:23	Jordach	i have a grave feeling about this https://cdn.mediacru.sh/gjzELK4bARd0.png
15:23	Krock	http://i.imgur.com/uoEiypC.png
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15:29	hoodedice	Krock, tat looks awesome
15:30	Krock	thx
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15:31	hoodedice	Zeno', I think this release is the best I have ever seen, better than 0.4.3 and even 0.4.8
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15:33	hoodedice	Hi Calinou
15:33	Jordach	Calinou, jumping then placing a block below you is broken in carbone
15:34	Calinou	engine problem
15:34	Calinou	the jump height in Carbone is reduced, as well as gravity, to feel better
15:34	Jordach	Calinou, might be physics
15:35	Calinou	you may want to Shift + jump (ugh, another engine bug) to circumvent this
15:35	Calinou	yes, exactly
15:35	Jordach	because i can do it easily in my own game :3
15:35	Calinou	intentionally
15:35	Calinou	try shift-jumping to jump higher
15:35	Calinou	blame engine devs for not letting players place blocks inside them
15:35	Calinou	(which should be allowed, it's part of Minetest now)
15:35	Calinou	add suffocation damage if it's not enough…
15:36	VanessaE	Calinou: that was just fixed in _game.  works fine there.
15:36	Krock	updated https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&amp;t=9331
15:36	VanessaE	well as fixed as it can get anyway
15:36	Calinou	increasing the jump height isn't a solution, else it feels like you're playing Bumpy Moose
15:36	Calinou	the C++ code should be fixed
15:37	VanessaE	Calinou: I'm pretty sure my server is up-to-date:  I can place blocks inside myself . is that a client-side bug/fix then?
15:38	VanessaE	my client is at HEAD>
15:38	Calinou	the check is client-side, it's disabled if noclip is enabled.
15:38	Calinou	you can disable such a thing with a client-side mod
15:38	Calinou	(thank Minetest for not being Red Eclipse)
15:38	VanessaE	and so is my server
15:38	VanessaE	ah yeah noclip is turned on, but I'm not flying.
15:38	Calinou	noclip on also disables the black screen when inside a block
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15:39	Lugal1	how can I change the game speed?
15:39	VanessaE	server and client are both at HEAD.  anyway yeah, I had noclip on but I thought that switch was only supposed to be meaningful while flying?  who changed that>
15:39	VanessaE	Lugal1: the game speed?
15:39	VanessaE	what do you mean?
15:40	Krock	press H J K and then W + E in combination
15:40	Calinou	movement speed, jump height and gravity can be changed in Carbone using commands
15:40	VanessaE	Krock: please don't confuse people ....
15:40	VanessaE	Lugal1: are you talking about walk/run speed or something else?
15:41	hoodedice	lol Krock
15:41	Krock	VanessaE, why confuse? You can understand that question on diffrent ways
15:41	hoodedice	Krock, I just saw in the map that your ice biome has terrain height differences
15:41	VanessaE	Krock: yse and his question is clearly confused... when you throw a bunch of random-sounding keys at him, you confuse him further.
15:42	VanessaE	yes*
15:42	hoodedice	Lugal1, are you still there?
15:42	Krock	VanessaE, why random? I just don't know which one of themis fas_mode by default :3
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15:42	hoodedice	And I don't think that an ice biome having mountains is realistic
15:42	Krock	hoodedice, yes. It has some elevation..
15:42	Krock	titanic?
15:42	VanessaE	Krock: he didn't say if he's on a server or singleplayer, or whether he even has the necessary privs to activate those modes.
15:42	hoodedice	Those are icebergs
15:43	Krock	VanessaE, whatever.. we don't even know if (s)he is still reading the chat
15:43	VanessaE	true
15:43	Krock	sso.. :3
15:43	hoodedice	but due to physics, it is impossible for ice to form mountains, unless a huge chuck broke off and fell to a lower elevation, but then again, it would melt due to the higher elevation
15:44	Lugal1	yes,  walt run speed and build/dig speed
15:44	hoodedice	And again, ice forms when there is a lot of standing water, like a lake
15:44	Krock	hoodedice, wut? melt because it has a higher elevation?
15:44	hoodedice	no no
15:44	hoodedice	Lugal, to increase run speed in singleplayer, use /grant singleplayer fast
15:44	hoodedice	And then press E while moving
15:45	VanessaE	Lugal1: dig speed is dependent on the tool you are using.  walk speed is fixed.  run speed, if you are allowed to run, is turned on by holding 'e' while you walk and is 20 m/sec
15:45	Krock	hoodedice, you forgot to tell about "enable fast_mode" :P
15:45	hoodedice	To increase mining speed, use a better tool
15:45	VanessaE	building nodes is at a fixed speed.
15:45	hoodedice	Oh and press 'k' to turn fast_mode on or off after /grant singleplayer fast
15:45	VanessaE	you can increase those 'fixed' speeds by perhaps using a different game, as Calinou suggested.
15:46	Krock	..or creative mode
15:46	Krock	-e
15:46	VanessaE	Krock: not always.
15:46	Krock	but mostly
15:46	Calinou	VanessaE, I should ask the minetest_game developers to merge such things to minetest_game, same for the damage sounds
15:46	Calinou	but they may refuse doing it :(
15:46	VanessaE	Calinou: try anyway
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15:47	VanessaE	it's sfan5, nore and BlockMen you're dealing with now, not Pilz :)
15:47	* sfan5	meows
15:47	hoodedice	Krock, I was saying, that ice mountains are possible if a huge chunck of them from a higher elevation (where it is colder) broke off and fell to a lower elevation, but then the ice would melt because it would be hotter
15:47	VanessaE	see?
15:47	hoodedice	lel
15:47	Krock	VanessaE, don't call him Pilz!
15:48	VanessaE	Krock: I did that as a joke :)
15:48	Krock	hoodedice, true. I'll try to change that a bit
15:48	* PilzAdam	gives Krock a cookie
15:48	* hoodedice	steal the cookie
15:48	VanessaE	sfan5: you guys willing to entertain better ingot textures?  even if they use a full 16px width?  nore has a trial image here...somewhere
15:48	* hoodedice	can't eat the cookie, though.
15:49	sfan5	VadtecWk: pull and we'll see
15:49	VanessaE	tab complete FAIL :)
15:49	* Krock	grabs hoodedice's stolen cookie and noms it
15:49	hoodedice	Krock, you made it sound wrong
15:49	Krock	grammar
15:49	VanessaE	/kick Vadtec stop fucking up sfan5's tab ordering ;)
15:49	hoodedice	It should be "Krock grabs his stolen cookie..."
15:50	* Krock	troutgrammarnazislaps hoodedice
15:50	Lugal1	ok, thanks, the H J K helped me :)
15:50	* hoodedice	ducks
15:50	Krock	^^^^^^
15:50	Calinou	VanessaE, I resized ingots from 16 × 17 to 16 × 16 in Carbone and improved them a bit
15:50	Calinou	especially gold
15:50	hoodedice	=O
15:50	sfan5	VanessaE: I've had enough of this, I'll tell xchat to sort tab list by last action
15:50	hoodedice	lol Krock
15:50	Calinou	VanessaE, I asked in ##minetest-next about commands.lua
15:50	VanessaE	sfan5: I thought I did that already but it still fails once in a while
15:50	Calinou	but the ideal would be to have that stuff in builtin
15:50	Vadtec	fair nuff
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15:51	VanessaE	I was kidding! :(
15:51	hoodedice	I sense a ragequit
15:51	* VanessaE	wonders if he reads the logs
15:51	VanessaE	get back in here Vadtek :P
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15:52	Vadtec	dont midn me
15:52	hoodedice	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1464 SHould this be an issue?
15:52	Vadtec	im bored
15:52	VanessaE	HA, he DOES read the logs :D
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15:53	VanessaE	(and I can't spell, either)
15:53	VadtecWk	indeed i do
15:53	VadtecWk	i just have ZERO time for gaming these days
15:54	hoodedice	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 Now I am angry... I told him not to be lazy, and blah blah but he still went ahead and bugged the devs
15:54	Lugal1	"enable fast_mode" doesnt work :(
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15:55	Lugal1	enable command not found
15:55	VanessaE	Lugal1: press J
15:55	VanessaE	then hold "e" to actually run fast
15:55	VanessaE	(or press J again if you already did once)
15:55	VanessaE	we don't use chatcommands for the simpler functions like that
15:56	* sfan5	meows at VanessaE
15:56	VanessaE	meow :)
15:56	VadtecWk	maybe at the end of summer ill be less time constrained and can get back into minetest, ive really missed world buidling, and my kids are annoyed that i havent setup a server for them again
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15:57	VanessaE	sfan5: I'll leave it to nore to actually issue the pull request when he's ready; he dcc'd the candidate texture to me but I don't wanna just randomly shoot it off to someone else without his say-so
15:57	Lugal1	ok, all works now :)
15:57	Lugal1	but another problem
15:57	hoodedice	Too fast?
15:57	VadtecWk	until then, i guess ill keep fucking up tab completes....
15:57	hoodedice	haha
15:57	VadtecWk	;P
15:57	VanessaE	VadtecWk: I was only kidding :(
15:57	VadtecWk	:P
15:57	Lugal1	the creature mod doent work . I have "unknown object" instead of the creatures. why?
15:58	VanessaE	Lugal1: Are you running 0.4.10?
15:58	VadtecWk	i will say this though, i hate seeing all the cool ideas and features and coding flow by and not being able to play minetest... more than once ive almost downloaded it here at work to give it a whirl...but that might not go well with the bosses
15:58	Krock	hoodedice, do you think, the ice biome needs snow blocks on it?
15:58	VadtecWk	keep up the good work coders
15:59	hoodedice	You could interspread ice with the snow
15:59	hoodedice	in a snow biome
15:59	hoodedice	or make ice sheets
15:59	VanessaE	VadtecWk: well, VNC to your machine at home ;)
15:59	Krock	hmm okay
15:59	hoodedice	you could try adding spike of ice at the top of mountains, or an ice cliff
15:59	VanessaE	it'd be slow but then you could make the argument that it's an admin tool :)
15:59	VadtecWk	VanessaE, oh i do (how do you think Vadtec /parted), but that doesnt solve the real issue of "gaming at work" lol
16:00	Lugal1	yes 0.4.10
16:00	hoodedice	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463 #rant
16:00	VadtecWk	LOL i wish
16:00	VadtecWk	but i work in IT
16:00	VadtecWk	so they know better
16:00	VanessaE	Vadtec: right but at least the boss couldn't accuse you of installing a game ;)
16:00	VanessaE	Lugal1: ok that at least good.  is the actual creatures mod up-to-date?  Where did you download it from - I mean, what is the link?
16:01	VadtecWk	VanessaE, i tried a few months ago, internet is to laggy to make it playable :(
16:01	Lugal1	I tried 3 . 2 from website, one installed from the menu in game
16:02	* VanessaE	pokes Taoki
16:02	VadtecWk	anyways, sorry for messin up tab complete, id rather be chatting about minetest than just reading the logs, but i gotta get back to work, these PCs wont set themselves up (sadly because we have no PXE server to make that possible)
16:03	VanessaE	cya VanessaE
16:03	VanessaE	fuck
16:03	VanessaE	now I did it :P
16:03	VanessaE	cya Vadtec
16:03	VadtecWk	LOL
16:03	VadtecWk	i needed that
16:03	Calinou	you said cya to yourself
16:04	VanessaE	Lugal1: I can't begin to guess when 3.2 was released, but I would have to venture a guess that it's merely out of date.  uninstall it, make sure it's completely gone, and then fetch a new copy from here:  https://github.com/MirceaKitsune/minetest_mods_creatures/archive/master.zip
16:04	VanessaE	(that's the official download link)
16:04	hoodedice	http://imgur.com/gallery/P3ytKjW4
16:04	VanessaE	install this to your minetest mods folder.
16:05	Lugal1	no
16:05	VanessaE	rename it to just "creatures" after you unzip it
16:05	Taoki	VanessaE: hi
16:05	Lugal1	I mean I tried 3 mods
16:05	Lugal1	2 of them from the website
16:05	VanessaE	OH ok
16:05	VanessaE	hoodedice: bad link, but the result is funny anyway :)
16:06	hoodedice	lolwut
16:06	hoodedice	http://imgur.com/gallery/P3ytKjW
16:06	VanessaE	Lugal1: right.  so, uninstall whatever you have and try the link I just gave
16:06	hoodedice	4 jumped on the bandwagon haha
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16:10	Lugal1	LuaEntity name: "mobs:rat" not defined....    thats the error, and I still see no monsters
16:11	hoodedice	VanessaE: Is the TravisCI thing opt-in?
16:11	VanessaE	sfan5: catch
16:11	VanessaE	hoodedice: automatic, I think
16:11	* sfan5	catched
16:11	VanessaE	sfan5: this is the image nore created.
16:12	hoodedice	Because I feel uncomfortable with all the energy waste going to builds, even when the commit is a simple lua_api.txt change
16:13	Taoki	Sorry, hard to keep up with that now. An error with Creatures?
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16:14	Lugal1	ok, monsters work, but animals dont :(
16:14	VanessaE	Taoki: creatures is/was spawning unknown entities, according to Lugal1
16:14	VanessaE	sfan5: is that a go, no-go, gtfo? :)
16:14	sfan5	VanessaE: finally something that looks like a read ingot
16:14	VanessaE	woo!
16:14	Taoki	Lugal1: Did you use an old version and now update? Some entity definitions changed, you'll need to do /clearobjects or create a new world
16:14	* sfan5	gives VanessaE a small sign with "yay!" written on it
16:15	VanessaE	haha
16:15	sfan5	you can use that coupon for the pull request
16:15	sfan5	:P
16:15	VanessaE	lol
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16:16	nore	sfan5: <nore> ok, I'll do the others in a few hours then but first, I'll play technic a bit :)
16:16	sfan5	k
16:16	sfan5	Lugal1: you asked about the mesh formats, right? http://irrlicht.sourceforge.net/features/#supportedformats
16:18	hoodedice	ohoy sfan https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&amp;t=9700&amp;view=unread#p147759
16:19	sfan5	all of sfan5's have no audio for me
16:19	sfan5	was able to reproduce
16:19	sfan5	but too lazy to fix
16:20	Lugal1	yes, I used old world, and installed new mods, thats the reason?
16:21	Lugal1	I gtg now, sorry, I come later, cya
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16:38	hoodedice	Should I continue work on that manual I was gonna make for the game?
16:39	sfan5	hoodedice: why not?
16:39	hoodedice	k, I will; on the other hand I will first finish off that globeminner thing which I never got around to finishng haha
16:42	hoodedice	sfan http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
16:43	hoodedice	Do users of the minetest program have to release modified source code?
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16:45	Calinou	manual should probably be in the wiki
16:45	asie	hoodedice: I think so
16:45	asie	Minetest is LGPL, isn't it?
16:45	Calinou	don't make it a PDF when you can just put it on the wiki, readable by everyone with only a Web browser
16:45	Calinou	asie, yes (2.1)
16:45	asie	yup
16:45	Calinou	hoodedice, http://openarena.wikia.com → look there for an example of the kind of Manual I'm talking about
16:45	asie	hoodedice: if you plan to publish your changes, you need to publish the source code
16:45	asie	this does not apply to mods, only to the minetest engine itself
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16:47	Calinou	most of the default mods are LGPL too
16:47	Calinou	my mods are zlib, but WorldEdit is AGPL 3 notably, which means the source code of it must be released if it's put on a server and a player asks for it
16:47	Calinou	eg. I connect to WorldEdit server, I see someone modified something in the code; if I ask for source they must give it, because I'm accessing it over a network
16:49	hoodedice	Cal,  there is already a manual in the wiki, just needs to be fixed up a bit
16:50	hoodedice	asie: Can you check this: http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
16:50	Calinou	it's not an open culture license
16:50	Calinou	it's a free software license
16:51	hoodedice	dun
16:53	Calinou	fixing stuff, please don't edit for now
16:54	hoodedice	k
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16:55	nore	sfan5: should I push the new ingot textures, or make a pull request?
16:55	Calinou	done
16:55	nman3600	I've got 2 legits nyan cats on your server Krock :D :) :D
16:55	Krock	congrats
16:55	nman3600	:) Thanks!
16:58	hoodedice	Cal, adding links to Minetest Android builds, I'll get back when article is complete
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17:02	twoelk	hoodedice: I would think a nice quick reference card, printable on one page might be pretty usefull
17:02	* PenguinDad	gives nman3600 the omg-i-found-over-one-nyan-cat badge
17:02	sfan5	nore: pull please
17:02	nore	ok
17:02	hoodedice	I'll do that twoelk, I'll make a two page quick reference guide =)
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17:02	hoodedice	Thanks for the tip
17:03	twoelk	something one can put beside the keyboard ;-)
17:05	nore	sfan5, done :)
17:07	VanessaE	Calinou: shall I make new textures for the last couple of moreores ingots based on what I just did using nore's tweaked image?
17:08	Calinou	I'd like tin and silver ingots, most importantly
17:08	VanessaE	on it.
17:12	VanessaE	Calinou: catch.
17:12	Calinou	why a DCC
17:12	Calinou	my ports aren't forwarded anyway
17:12	sfan5	VanessaE: psst.. https://mediacru.sh
17:12	Calinou	(and probably won't)
17:12	VanessaE	ok I'll upload it then :P
17:13	sfan5	Calinou: works if only one person has ports forwarded
17:13	Calinou	I never understood DCC
17:13	* sfan5	did not have ports fwd'd either
17:13	VanessaE	http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/moreores_ingots.zip
17:14	VanessaE	(why use mediacru.sh if I have my own server? :P )
17:14	sfan5	you can set up a MediaCrush instance on your own server too
17:15	VanessaE	too lazy :)
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17:19	hoodedice	sapier, should the android app be considered stable?
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17:22	hoodedice	Calinou:  http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
17:24	sfan5	hoodedice: no
17:24	hoodedice	k
17:30	VanessaE	Calinou: well merge already :)
17:32	hoodedice	merge what?
17:32	VanessaE	hoodedice: the images in the zip I linked.
17:33	hoodedice	ah k, srry
17:34	hoodedice	I like how two links in the google search result for "Globeminner" point to Minetest
17:35	twoelk	hoodedice: you are aware of this page? http://wiki.minetest.net/Overview_of_Minetest_forks
17:36	hoodedice	I just saw it
17:37	hoodedice	Needs some fixes tho
17:37	twoelk	it sure does
17:38	twoelk	have been wondering whether something like unofficial "forks" should be added
17:39	twoelk	but thenagain  I don't want to promote those other versions
17:41	hoodedice	In the actual Minetest Infringment article draft that I am publishing now, we did name and shame them.
17:41	hoodedice	I decided to leave them out because drama.
17:46	hoodedice	twoelf, Minetest M 13 isn't even a real fork
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17:57	hoodedice	Hai EvergreenTree
17:57	EvergreenTree	hai
17:59	PenguinDad	shark
18:03	LemonLake	sfan5: ニャー
18:03	sfan5	nyan
18:03	LemonLake	oh of coures
18:03	LemonLake	that's where it comes from :P
18:04	LemonLake	ニャー 猫 :P
18:04	PenguinDad	Meow cat
18:05	LemonLake	nyan cat
18:05	LemonLake	ニャー = nya = meow
18:07	* sfan5	meows at LemonLake
18:07	* LemonLake	meows at sfan5
18:07	* hoodedice	barks at both
18:07	* LemonLake	fucks off away from hoodedice
18:08	* PenguinDad	squawks at hoodedice
18:08	* hoodedice	was not fucking LemonLake in the first place
18:08	* LemonLake	never said that
18:08	* hoodedice	also never said that
18:09	* sfan5	meows at hoodedice
18:09	* hoodedice	licks sfan5
18:09	* sfan5	licks paw
18:09	* Krock	hugs everybody
18:09	* LemonLake	runs away from Krock
18:09	hoodedice	ewwwwwww gay!
18:10	* Krock	catches LemonLake
18:10	* LemonLake	runs away again
18:10	* PenguinDad	gives Krock a cookie
18:10	Krock	hugs aren't gay
18:10	hoodedice	You didn't say no homo
18:10	hoodedice	no homo
18:10	* hoodedice	hugs Krock
18:10	VanessaE	"It's like a little boy's nursery school I've come upon here."
18:11	Calinou	hugs aren't gay indeed
18:11	LemonLake	^
18:11	LemonLake	I just have problems with affection from stranges.
18:11	hoodedice	dude
18:11	hoodedice	running joke
18:12	sfan5	plol
18:12	LemonLake	Jokes can run now?
18:12	LemonLake	Since when did that happen?
18:12	sfan5	I just typo'd "local var = 1" as "lolcat var = 1"
18:12	twoelk	since running gags?
18:12	Calinou	lolcat var = tralse
18:12	* Krock	gives sfan5 a cookie
18:12	LemonLake	gags can run too?
18:12	LemonLake	ew
18:12	PenguinDad	sfan5: plol
18:12	* sfan5	meows at Krock
18:13	twoelk	http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Running_gag
18:13	LemonLake	ew cookies
18:13	sfan5	ew LemonLake
18:13	PenguinDad	ew ew
18:13	LemonLake	I dislike cookies.
18:13	EvergreenTree	cookies are awesome
18:13	LemonLake	They give me migraines. Fun stuff.
18:14	PenguinDad	since the cake is a lie we need cookies
18:14	EvergreenTree	cookies with migraines? where do you get those cookies from?
18:14	EvergreenTree	:p
18:14	VanessaE	LemonLake: mix in a little ganja and those migraines should go away :)
18:14	hoodedice	fun fact: ganja in hindi means bald.
18:15	Calinou	oppa ganja style
18:15	LemonLake	mix in a little bald...
18:15	LemonLake	i
18:15	* twoelk	thinks of some space cockies he had in Amsterdam
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18:15	LemonLake	i don't think that's socially acceptable
18:15	EvergreenTree	cockies?  eh...
18:15	VanessaE	Calinou: well, merge those images already :)
18:15	Jordach	twoelk, you were definitely floating
18:15	Jordach	i know what they put in those brownies (i sometimes make a batch)
18:16	twoelk	driving was interesting after having some
18:16	Calinou	these look good
18:16	VanessaE	twoelk: watch out!  you'll wreck!  ...at 10 kph. :)
18:16	LemonLake	sfan5: https://cdn.mediacru.sh/rWy5x-rwE2dk.png
18:16	hoodedice	kph, hmph, so unpatriotic
18:16	sfan5	LemonLake: "omg that person can draw"
18:16	hoodedice	LET ME INSTALL FREEDOM.EXE
18:17	* twoelk	learned of new ingridients he didn't know could be backed
18:17	Calinou	where can I get the new default ingots, VanessaE?
18:17	Calinou	so that I put them in Carbone
18:17	VanessaE	hoodedice: officially the US is on the metric standard.  we just don't use it on our signage.
18:17	hoodedice	Nice to hear that
18:17	VanessaE	Calinou: https://github.com/Novatux/minetest_game/commit/90fcc9507aa1bde6e47032730972c95ab2d45ecd
18:17	Calinou	looks strange without outline, LemonLake
18:17	Calinou	flat design :D
18:17	hoodedice	Looks like the Sharia.exe is working
18:17	hoodedice	=P
18:17	LemonLake	Calinou: that's how i art style
18:18	LemonLake	deal with it
18:18	PenguinDad	hoodedice: you have strange programs installed :P
18:18	sfan5	hello Megaf
18:18	hoodedice	lol
18:18	LemonLake	Megaf: and tell me
18:18	hoodedice	hi
18:18	LemonLake	what the fuck was the point in that
18:19	hoodedice	no point at all
18:19	Megaf	LemonLake; easier to say hi like that when you are on 40+ channels
18:19	hoodedice	The point that there was no point at all was the fucking point
18:20	Megaf	The point is, does that matters for you?
18:20	LemonLake	Yes.
18:20	Megaf	Did I hurt your feelings?
18:20	Megaf	If so, I'm sorry ok!?
18:20	LemonLake	Yes.
18:20	LemonLake	Can't accept that apple elegy. Sorry.
18:20	Megaf	I apologize
18:21	PenguinDad	The point was also known as period or dot.
18:21	LemonLake	。Sassy point.
18:21	Calinou	LemonLake, flat design is a cool thing to me
18:21	LemonLake	Minimalistic vectors they're called
18:21	LemonLake	But usually you don't draw faces, I just felt they were ultimately necessary for this one.
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18:23	twoelk	LemonLake: the shadow on the womens neck seems a bit of for me, else great work!
18:23	LemonLake	That's what I thought
18:23	twoelk	*off
18:23	LemonLake	Do you mean the neck shadow, or the chest shadow?
18:23	twoelk	neck
18:23	LemonLake	I might shorten it
18:24	twoelk	compared to the guy
18:24	LemonLake	Yeah
18:24	LemonLake	The light is slightly angled yet it's not entirely obvious
18:24	Calinou	VanessaE, added ingots
18:25	VanessaE	I saw :)  \o/
18:25	LemonLake	It's centred on Ushio
18:25	Calinou	they look quite better, having an outline makes more sense
18:25	LemonLake	I'll shorten the neck shadow and see how it looks
18:26	VanessaE	Calinou: thank nore, he drew the default gold ingot, from which I derived all the others :)
18:26	nore	actually, I based it on BlockMen's gold ingot
18:26	nore	I just made it not look like a brick :)
18:26	twoelk	if the light is to be coming from center top left, maybe the ribbon should cast some shadow
18:27	Krock	BlockMen:gold_ingot
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18:30	Dezem	hi
18:30	LemonLake	twoelk: looking at references, it is typically drawn long shaded like it is
18:30	LemonLake	http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/21000000/Nagisa-Furukawa-okazaki-nagisa-21049884-496-640.jpg
18:30	Krock	hi
18:30	LemonLake	http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111216164559/c__/clannad/images/b/ba/Nagisa.jpg
18:30	Dezem	krock do you know cg72
18:30	LemonLake	to spotlight a few
18:31	Krock	"know" -> no | "talked with" -> yes
18:31	Dezem	have you talked to her lately or k ow wat channel she is on
18:32	Krock	irc.inchra.net : 6667 #minetest
18:32	Krock	^ IRC server
18:33	Dezem	do i type 6667 #minetest
18:33	LemonLake	hold it in, LemonLake, hold it in
18:33	Dezem	wat lemoncake
18:33	Dezem	i mean lake
18:34	sfan5	>lemoncake
18:34	sfan5	lol
18:34	LemonLake	i get it more than enough
18:34	LemonLake	dont make me kill a parrot
18:34	LemonLake	or somethin
18:34	Krock	omg LEMONCAKE <3
18:34	Dezem	wooooooww
18:34	twoelk	?
18:35	Krock	!
18:35	Dezem	does anyone know what website has #freetalk
18:35	Krock	this server has #freetalk
18:36	twoelk	LemonLake: those are good examples of shadows as they should be in respect to the lighting in the pictures (near noon)
18:36	LemonLake	which it is
18:37	twoelk	you do know how to construckt shadows?
18:37	twoelk	*construct
18:37	Krock	http://irc.lc/inchra/minetest/guest@@@
18:37	Krock	^dezem
18:38	twoelk	trace the male chin to the shadow tip, now do that to the woman and compare. Where does the light come from?
18:42	VanessaE	there, dreambuilder updated.  those ingot images were a good excuse to update all of the base game imagery anyway
18:45	* twoelk	hopes he didn't annoy LemonLake
18:45	LemonLake	Hello
18:45	LemonLake	No, you did not  :)
18:47	* twoelk	just visited this http://animexx.onlinewelten.com/events/64021/ and might be over critical
18:48	LemonLake	ooo
18:48	LemonLake	chiisai means small
18:49	twoelk	was just a few hundred people
18:50	* twoelk	did not go in costume though
18:51	* Krock	wants his hand on the left side
18:51	twoelk	double left handed?
18:52	LemonLake	u wot
18:53	Krock	twoelk, no. the right hand should be moved on the left side. it confuses me
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18:53	LemonLake	um
18:53	LemonLake	what
18:53	LemonLake	hand what where?
18:53	twoelk	might affect balance
18:54	Krock	(in-game hand)
18:54	LemonLake	oe
18:54	twoelk	unbalanced gameplay then?
18:56	twoelk	actually that might be something that should be configurable
18:56	Krock	hmm who would do those HUD things? blockmen?
18:57	twoelk	does the hand change when using that creatures mod?
18:58	twoelk	or whas it ghost mod?
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18:59	EvergreenTree	twoelk: no it doesn't
19:00	EvergreenTree	I don't think so at least
19:01	twoelk	might be fun if I played a treemonster, waving with a twig
19:07	LemonLake	this is disappointed
19:07	LemonLake	disappointing*
19:07	LemonLake	it takes 12 seconds to save..
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19:07	Ragnar_droid	Hi
19:08	LemonLake	こんいちは
19:09	Ragnar_droid	Hey o heard that i can edit the saturation and i think the alpha of a texture "t.png^[sat" or something like that
19:09	LemonLake	if you have magic powers then you can for sure
19:10	Ragnar_droid	Im 2 levels away from magic powers... Still need about 3.14K of XP
19:10	LemonLake	get out, take your logic with you
19:10	Ragnar_droid	Its cold out
19:11	LemonLake	just dont look at me
19:11	Ragnar_droid	Like 10°C
19:11	LemonLake	ok?
19:11	* Krock	gives Ragnar_droid 0.00159265358979K of XP
19:11	Ragnar_droid	Oh you teaser
19:11	Krock	s/gives/takes/
19:11	Ragnar_droid	But Krock... Can i do that
19:12	LemonLake	omgzgzg
19:12	LemonLake	im nearly doneeee
19:12	Krock	with?
19:12	LemonLake	my clannad art
19:12	Ragnar_droid	Omfgzgz
19:12	Ragnar_droid	I dont care
19:12	Ragnar_droid	Troll4Troll
19:12	LemonLake	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/v9mcHpyvapTq.png
19:13	LemonLake	do you care now?
19:13	Ragnar_droid	Hentai! Now i do care!
19:13	LemonLake	ummm...
19:13	LemonLake	that's not hentai
19:13	* Ragnar_droid	loves hentai
19:14	LemonLake	hmm
19:14	LemonLake	well okay then
19:14	* Krock	gives LemonLake a real life picture
19:14	LemonLake	no objections
19:14	LemonLake	no, Ragnar_droid, this is anime
19:14	Ragnar_droid	It hasnt begun yet.. The story just started... No true hentai starts with sex
19:14	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid:
19:14	LemonLake	this
19:15	LemonLake	is
19:15	LemonLake	not
19:15	LemonLake	hentai
19:15	Ragnar_droid	It starts with an introduction
19:15	Ragnar_droid	Ktnxbye. Ingored LemonLake
19:16	LemonLake	um
19:16	LemonLake	what, just because i didn't draw hentai?
19:16	Ragnar_droid	Yes
19:16	LemonLake	mate
19:16	Ragnar_droid	Now youre ignored
19:16	LemonLake	you've got issues
19:16	Ragnar_droid	I wont see your text anymore
19:17	LemonLake	whatever
19:17	Ragnar_droid	Krock
19:19	twoelk	well if that child wasn't adopted this picture might be post hentai ;-) - by some years
19:19	LemonLake	ushio is not adopted
19:19	Ragnar_droid	Yeah.  This guy gets me
19:19	LemonLake	um
19:19	LemonLake	its based on an anime...
19:19	Ragnar_droid	Yes he is
19:19	LemonLake	get with it
19:19	Ragnar_droid	Btw. I disignored u
19:19	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: you've got issues if you can't tell that ushio is a fucking 5 year old girl
19:19	LemonLake	no, you never ignored me in the first place
19:20	Ragnar_droid	I did
19:20	Ragnar_droid	If i could screenshot it i would
19:20	LemonLake	whatever
19:20	LemonLake	like i care, pervert
19:20	Ragnar_droid	Im 15 you moron
19:21	LemonLake	mhm
19:21	Ragnar_droid	How could i be a erv
19:21	LemonLake	I'm 21.
19:21	Ragnar_droid	Perv*
19:21	LemonLake	mate
19:21	Krock	TOPIC SWITCH
19:21	twoelk	klick
19:21	LemonLake	if all you can do is imagine cartoon characters having sex, you've got some issue
19:21	Ragnar_droid	Krock.  +1
19:21	sfan5	uhh
19:22	sfan5	can we move offtopic to somewhere else please
19:22	LemonLake	also, not sure 15 is an appropriate age to be looking at hentai
19:22	LemonLake	sfan5: はい！
19:22	Ragnar_droid	Lemon. Yoi remember Bloo fro Fosters home for imaginary friends?
19:22	sfan5	<sfan5> can we move offtopic to somewhere else please
19:22	PenguinDad	Crack is hardcoded in minetest xD
19:22	* Calinou	prones and deploys MG42…
19:22	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: stop now
19:22	sfan5	Calinou: y u no !op instead of /cs op ?
19:23	Calinou	what's wrong with that
19:23	PenguinDad	s/Crack is/Cracks are/
19:23	Ragnar_droid	You stop telling me what i can and cant watch
19:23	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: move offtopic. now
19:23	VanessaE	oh G*d, totally irritating character, Bloo.
19:23	VanessaE	(I miss that cartoon.)
19:23	* sfan5	licks paw
19:23	Ragnar_droid	Cheese was more irritating
19:23	LemonLake	VanessaE: fosters was a great cartoon
19:23	Ragnar_droid	I miss it too
19:24	Ragnar_droid	But some a.hole made a sexual video out of it... Googe for Bloo Me
19:24	Ragnar_droid	!g bloo me
19:24	MinetestBot	Ragnar_droid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2AzpdrQIUU
19:24		Ragnar_droid was kicked by Calinou: Ragnar_droid
19:25	LemonLake	jesus fuckin christ
19:25	LemonLake	apple elegies people
19:25	LemonLake	I believe I spiked that discussion
19:25	LemonLake	kids, I advise you not click that link ;)
19:25	* Krock	pushes a wet sponge in LemonLake's mouth
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19:25	* LemonLake	eats it
19:25	Ragnar_droid	Ok sorry...
19:26	Ragnar_droid	LemonLakes img reminded me of stufff.... Sorry dood...
19:26	LemonLake	I've finished it now
19:26	Ragnar_droid	Great
19:26	LemonLake	and I'd show you it but not sure I want to anymore
19:26	Ragnar_droid	Can i give you an idea. Lemon.
19:26	* twoelk	might be interested
19:27	LemonLake	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/CIWq_P8Angqi.png
19:27	Ragnar_droid	Animate it
19:27	LemonLake	there you go, complete
19:27	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: this has taken an entire week to make, not sure I want to.
19:27	LemonLake	the actual anime is good enough as it is
19:27	sfan5	I just .. wtf
19:27	sfan5	https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1465
19:27	Ragnar_droid	I know its HARD... ;D
19:27	sfan5	"Hand on right side only is discriminatory"
19:28	Krock	sfan5, I knew it's my issue be4 clicking :)
19:28	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: really? have you tried actually drawing a simplistic vector based on an anime in your free time?
19:28	PenguinDad	LemonLake: looks nice
19:28	LemonLake	PenguinDad: thanks ^.^
19:28	Ragnar_droid	Lemon im bad at drawing stick figures
19:28	twoelk	LemonLake: sorta cute, I like the slight smirk on the guy's face
19:28	Ragnar_droid	You are an artist
19:29	Ragnar_droid	I was just messing with you earlier
19:29	Ragnar_droid	Friends!
19:29	Ragnar_droid	?
19:29	LemonLake	twoelk: it's not quite a smirk but I agree it is quite an interesting touch
19:29	Ragnar_droid	Ffs... ! Is right next to ? On the android 2.2 keyboard
19:30	LemonLake	with outlines his smiles make more sense
19:31	Ragnar_droid	Lemon... Do you 4give me tho? Ihate enemies
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19:31	twoelk	last thing I traced was a top view of an airbus for a control panel
19:32	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: that's difficult for me to do. welcome to the world of living with autism
19:32	twoelk	haven't drawn people for ages
19:32	LemonLake	an airbus?
19:32	LemonLake	interesting
19:33	twoelk	oops forgot I made a two page comic in a workshop at the con
19:33	twoelk	well sketches rather
19:33	Calinou	sfan5, a way to change wield item offset in general
19:33	LemonLake	nice
19:33	LemonLake	Calinou: rather change the position and flip it
19:34	LemonLake	offsetting it would make things look a bit weird
19:34	Calinou	achievement get! banned
19:35	twoelk	information panel befor or after action?
19:36	hoodedice	Calinou, what shoud I name that topic I was working on?
19:36	Calinou	which topic
19:37	hoodedice	"Minetest Infringement Policy"?
19:37	Calinou	<Ragnar_droid> Lemon... Do you 4give me tho? Ihate enemies
19:37	Calinou	oh, I have many enemies, come to me
19:37	hoodedice	http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
19:37	LemonLake	+Calinou
19:37	Calinou	hoodedice, Forks?
19:37	hoodedice	We already have a topic on forks
19:37	hoodedice	This is actually oriented at infringement things
19:37	Calinou	“Do not attempt to hack, grief, or crash their servers. They will try to file a lawsuit for hacking. ” → sorry, but griefing is not illegal
19:38	LemonLake	^
19:38	hoodedice	Ik
19:38	hoodedice	But still not a good idea
19:38	LemonLake	i dont think crashing a server is actually
19:38	hoodedice	(Plus I know they'll do it anywas haha)
19:38	hoodedice	they - griefers
19:39	hoodedice	btw, checked by celeron, says looks good
19:39	Calinou	fixed
19:39	Calinou	crashing a server may be
19:39	Calinou	but no one has sued for crashing game servers, I believe
19:39	twoelk	"In the past few days" might not be valid in some time.
19:40	Calinou	ehm, have fun suing someone for that then
19:41	LemonLake	what should I do for the background of the clannad piece?
19:41	LemonLake	maybe the cherry trees
19:41	twoelk	you might need to ad an "as of (insert date)" or not use a relative time statement
19:41	PenguinDad	"If you think that a certain program is infringing on Minetest's LGPL 2.0" it's 2.1 hoodedice
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19:43	Jordach	!c 1240/3
19:43	MinetestBot	413
19:43	hoodedice	no one did, but that GM dude thretened a lawsuit
19:43	Krock	!c 1240.0/3.0
19:43	MinetestBot	413.3333333333333
19:43	Jordach	!c 1240/4
19:43	MinetestBot	310
19:43	twoelk	http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest with links to licenses
19:43	hoodedice	Thanks twoelk
19:43	LemonLake	has some dumbass mofo made an unauthorized port and then threatened a lawsuit on another unauthed/authed port?
19:44	LemonLake	sounds like the sort of thing someone in this world would do
19:44	hoodedice	Calinou: I think the NOT should be left in ALL CAPS (?)
19:44	Calinou	no
19:44	Ragnar_droid	Hoodedice... Is Freeminer a game INSPIRED by minetest or a minetest FORK?
19:44	Calinou	it sounds like you're shouting and I do enough of that already
19:44	hoodedice	Fork
19:44	Calinou	a fork, Ragnar_droid
19:44	Ragnar_droid	Ok
19:45	Ragnar_droid	Do FM servers work with MT
19:46	Krock	MT client -> FM server -> doesn't work
19:46	Krock	FM client -> MT server -> should work
19:46	LemonLake	because logic
19:46	Krock	yes.
19:46	Krock	backwards compatibility
19:46	Krock	"""backwards"""
19:47	LemonLake	something mt and most of its forks do fairly well
19:47	twoelk	look for free- in http://servers.minetest.net/ under version, example: road
19:47	Ragnar_droid	Snd MT client -> MT server -> Will lag or Wont work
19:47	Ragnar_droid	And*
19:47	LemonLake	um
19:47	Calinou	I can connect to Sky server with Minetest
19:47	LemonLake	MT client -> MT server = DEFINITELY work....
19:48	Krock	^proofed many times
19:48	Calinou	lol
19:48	Krock	(in singleplayer)
19:48	LemonLake	lol
19:48	Calinou	proved
19:48	Ragnar_droid	Depends: versions
19:48	Krock	grammarnazi
19:48	LemonLake	Most versions work with most servers.
19:48	LemonLake	There'll just be noticable bugs in some cases.
19:49	hoodedice	added links to license http://wiki.minetest.net/User:Hoodedice/sandbox
19:49	Ragnar_droid	DISCOnnected from server
19:49	Ragnar_droid	Reason: lol
19:49	* twoelk	will not bet on anything depending on good internet connections
19:49	* Krock	wrote a skin preview generator some time ago.. maybe gonna extend it to zoom the textures in
19:50	PenguinDad	Minetest 0.4.10 still works with headcrabs server
19:50	hoodedice	*red
19:50	Krock	*greencrabs
19:50	PenguinDad	*redcrab
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19:50	Calinou	that server should never ever be played on; it's ridiculously outdated and the admin is gone nowhere
19:50	Krock	does it have backups?
19:50	Krock	cuz online 24/7
19:51	Ragnar_droid	MT version 0.3.0
19:51	EvergreenTree	Krock: no, sadly
19:51	Ragnar_droid	XD
19:51	EvergreenTree	it really is a piece of minetest history
19:51	Krock	YES
19:51	* twoelk	hides his old outdated costumized clients
19:51	Ragnar_droid	Hi neverblue
19:51	EvergreenTree	the mods are so outdated it would be impossible (nearly) to update it to a new version
19:51	* Krock	gives twoelk src/light.cpp
19:52	proller	twoelk, ~2000 reached on four circles ;)
19:52	Krock	EvergreenTree, wut? they should work
19:52	Calinou	debug light table is cool
19:52	Ragnar_droid	Hey neveryellowbush
19:52	EvergreenTree	Krock: no, minetest 0.4.10 does work with redcrad
19:52	EvergreenTree	*crab
19:52	twoelk	oh, juste camped on +1020 or so
19:52	Krock	EvergreenTree, ehm. I never said it otherwise :3
19:53	EvergreenTree	I just said if he updated everything, there would be unknown nodes everywhere
19:53	EvergreenTree	so much aliasing would be needed
19:53	EvergreenTree	and abms
19:53	EvergreenTree	especially with the several wool mods installed on there
19:53	Calinou	the crappy torches
19:53	Krock	EvergreenTree, copy bin and builtin folder -> done! :)
19:54	Krock	no needs for updating the mods
19:54	Krock	and maybe some texture replacing
19:54	Krock	more isn't required
19:54	EvergreenTree	well, in 0.4.10 a certain wool color doesn't show
19:54	EvergreenTree	and looks like an unknown node in later versions
19:55	EvergreenTree	I use 0.4.5 on redcrab
19:55	EvergreenTree	so I don't see the unknown nodes
19:55	Krock	maybe it needs to be in the texture pack because the server misses that texture
19:55	EvergreenTree	possibly
19:55	EvergreenTree	we just need to get redcrab to give us the copy of minetest he is using on the server
19:55	EvergreenTree	or even jsut the mods and the world
19:56	Krock	the world...
19:56	Ragnar_droid	Ask god
19:56	LemonLake	https://cdn.mediacru.sh/DBGHem-GS9hg.png Opinions?
19:56	EvergreenTree	the world that is used on redcrab.  :P
19:56	Krock	what was the last known file size 1GB?
19:56	Ragnar_droid	If hes having a good day... You then just might get The World
19:56	Krock	I guess, it wasmore
19:56	EvergreenTree	where on earth would he upload it though
19:57	VanessaE	LemonLake: it's looking good.   needs more contour/shadowing around the guy's mouth
19:57	Krock	LemonLake, erase it and draw some 16-color smile
19:57	LemonLake	VanessaE: okay, I'll try that
19:57	LemonLake	Krock: 16 color smile?
19:57	Ragnar_droid	Lemoncake... Looks like fiiiiinnneeee henta.... Wait... Nope... Looks good... Thats it
19:58	Krock	LemonLake, you don't know the 16-color images?????where you only have 16 diffrent colors
19:58	LemonLake	Oh, yes I know those
19:58	LemonLake	Nah.
19:58	Krock	so, youneed black, white and yellow
19:58	Krock	5x5 px sould be enough
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19:58	Krock	</troll>
19:58	Ragnar_droid	Hi artur
19:59	artur99	hi
19:59	Ragnar_droid	Dood
19:59	artur99	hey, whats up? :D
19:59	Ragnar_droid	I missed u bruh
19:59	artur99	:)
19:59	Ragnar_droid	:'O
19:59	PenguinDad	Krock: 4×4 px is already enough :P
19:59	artur99	when u said ull get home?
19:59	Ragnar_droid	How bout 2x16
19:59	LemonLake	u kiddin me
19:59	Ragnar_droid	The 27. july
20:00	artur99	hmm 28 days :D
20:00	AnotherBrick	2x3 is minimum for expressing smile
20:00	Ragnar_droid	Well be here a bit longer
20:00	LemonLake	VanessaE: How is this? https://cdn.mediacru.sh/MSR9Cb3sPq5I.png
20:00	Ragnar_droid	I know... I hate it
20:00	Ragnar_droid	I wanna go home
20:00	hoodedice	dun http://wiki.minetest.net/Minetest_Licensing
20:01	Ragnar_droid	Dat smile tho
20:01	Jordach	!c 1754/2
20:01	MinetestBot	877
20:01	hoodedice	artur99, Ragnar_droid, this is a public chat room, use query for private chats
20:01	artur99	:))) k
20:01	Ragnar_droid	!c 10:0
20:01	MinetestBot	SyntaxError: invalid syntax (<string>, line 1)
20:01	Ragnar_droid	XD
20:01	Ragnar_droid	Oh...
20:01	hoodedice	: is a character
20:02	Ragnar_droid	!c 10/0
20:02	MinetestBot	ZeroDivisionError: integer division or modulo by zero
20:02	PenguinDad	!c 16^3
20:02	MinetestBot	19
20:02	Jordach	!c 1754/3
20:02	MinetestBot	584
20:02	EvergreenTree	stop using MinetestBot in this chat
20:02	hoodedice	Guys, please use ##minetestbot for your bot spamming needs
20:02	LemonLake	^
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20:02	EvergreenTree	^
20:02	Krock	PenguinDad, http://i.imgur.com/5CBCkcM.png
20:02	VanessaE	LemonLake: much better.
20:02	VanessaE	just that thin bit of something you added defines the mouth better.
20:03	VanessaE	LemonLake: next, try to adjust the nose shading, it ...doesn't quite work right
20:03	Krock	omg. my smiley has no nose
20:03	* Jordach	should be banned from Gimp
20:04	EvergreenTree	And why might that be?
20:04	* Krock	takes away gimp and puts PDN on its place
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20:04	Calinou	PDN sucks
20:04	LemonLake	+Krock
20:04	LemonLake	PDN is actually alright.
20:04	Krock	-Calinou
20:04	EvergreenTree	Gimp is better
20:04	LemonLake	But Gimp beats it any day.
20:04	Jordach	i'd rather use shitty PDF
20:04	PenguinDad	--Krock
20:04	artur99	ಠ_à²
20:04	Calinou	PDN is proprietary and Windows-only
20:04	LemonLake	^
20:04	EvergreenTree	Gimp is open source and cross platform
20:05	grrk-bzzt	"PDN" ?
20:05	LemonLake	^
20:05	LemonLake	PDN = Paint.NET
20:05	Krock	PenguinDad, --Krock makes no change, you need to use Krock--;
20:05	grrk-bzzt	Oh OK
20:05	LemonLake	Krock: --Krock also works.
20:05	grrk-bzzt	Paint.NET is neat but yeah, it's proprietary and Windows only
20:05	Krock	LemonLake, but it just decreases it by 1 in the current use but doesn't change the actual value
20:05	grrk-bzzt	Otherwise, the interface is much better than GIMP
20:05	Calinou	GIMP's is good enough
20:05	Calinou	learn to use it
20:05	EvergreenTree	Gimp's interface is fine
20:06	grrk-bzzt	At least for everyday people who need straightforward things
20:06	EvergreenTree	once you learn to use it
20:06	LemonLake	Gimps interface could be better
20:06	* Krock	raged last time using gimp
20:06	Calinou	improve it then
20:06	LemonLake	And it doesn't work on mac all the time, but who uses mac
20:06	EvergreenTree	Yes, it could
20:06	Calinou	it doesn't improve by itself
20:06	grrk-bzzt	[22:06:06] <EvergreenTree> once you learn to use it
20:06	Calinou	same for Minetest
20:06	EvergreenTree	but it works fine
20:06	LemonLake	^
20:06	Calinou	LemonLake, works on OS X here, when I use OS X
20:06	grrk-bzzt	That's the point EvergreenTree
20:06	Calinou	it even has a dark background!
20:06	LemonLake	Strange.
20:06	EvergreenTree	grrk-bzzt: try using blender
20:06	Calinou	to look professional
20:06	EvergreenTree	:3
20:06	LemonLake	+EvergreenTree
20:06	Calinou	<grrk-bzzt> At least for everyday people who need straightforward things
20:06	grrk-bzzt	EvergreenTree, I am, Blender isn't straight forward
20:06	Calinou	there probably are simpler tools for them
20:06	EvergreenTree	right
20:07	grrk-bzzt	Paint.NET is already simple
20:07	PenguinDad	I can't work with PDN's crappy interface
20:07	grrk-bzzt	Otherwise use paint.exe lol
20:07	EvergreenTree	use libreoffice draw if you really need simple tools
20:07	LemonLake	I hate the beta interface.
20:07	LemonLake	The 3.5 one is great, tho
20:07	grrk-bzzt	lmao LibreOffice Draw
20:07	Krock	<3 <3 http://andrew.hedges.name/experiments/brainf_cker/ <3 <3 <3 <3
20:07	LemonLake	Anonymous asked a question
20:07	LemonLake	please follow my twitter at @twitter
20:07	EvergreenTree	you said simple
20:07	* LemonLake	kills self
20:08	grrk-bzzt	As far as I remember, LibreOffice Draw is just shit
20:08	grrk-bzzt	I'll give it a try, hand on
20:08	Jordach	hoodedice, EvergreenTree here's yer A4 cover  https://cdn.mediacru.sh/qBeiDuR71Rd_.png
20:08	grrk-bzzt	s/hand/hang
20:09	EvergreenTree	Jordach: I could easily to that
20:09	EvergreenTree	it does look nice as a manual cover though
20:09	grrk-bzzt	Just what I thought, LibreOffice Draw have nothing in common with Gimp and PDN
20:09	EvergreenTree	no, it doesn't
20:10	grrk-bzzt	And it's just for… I dunno
20:10	EvergreenTree	Are there any simple open source image editing programs?
20:10	EvergreenTree	There's aseprite, but it's not simple
20:10	grrk-bzzt	I really don't know why someone would use LibreOffice Draw
20:10	EvergreenTree	(not really)
20:10	grrk-bzzt	Wasn't Pinta meant to be a PDN clone for GNU/Linux ?
20:10	EvergreenTree	if you want something edititable that can be used in another libreoffice doc
20:11	EvergreenTree	there is also krita
20:11	EvergreenTree	but it isn't much better then gimp interface wise
20:11	grrk-bzzt	Krita is awesome
20:11	EvergreenTree	I tried using krita
20:11	EvergreenTree	it is pretty good
20:11	grrk-bzzt	I've tried it two days ago with the Wacom tablet I've bought, it's fantastic
20:11	EvergreenTree	seems like it's aimed at painting more than anything else
20:11	EvergreenTree	and drawing
20:11	grrk-bzzt	^
20:11	grrk-bzzt	Exactly, painting and drawing
20:12	EvergreenTree	not really so great for photo manipulation
20:12	EvergreenTree	if I were an artist, it would be great for me
20:12	Calinou	>Wacom tablet
20:12	Calinou	lol
20:12	hoodedice	what''s so lol about that
20:12	grrk-bzzt	https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pinta_(software)
20:12	EvergreenTree	but then again, I would be on a mac if I were an artist
20:12	EvergreenTree	:P
20:13	grrk-bzzt	Calinou, to be honest, I don't get what you are pointing here
20:13	grrk-bzzt	EvergreenTree, or you would use KDE and Krita
20:13	grrk-bzzt	:P
20:13	EvergreenTree	I use kde
20:13	EvergreenTree	just not krita
20:13	grrk-bzzt	There you go
20:13	grrk-bzzt	WM BATTLLLEEEE!!!
20:14	grrk-bzzt	KDE SUCKS
20:14	grrk-bzzt	Sorry about that
20:14	EvergreenTree	YOU SUCK
20:14	EvergreenTree	lol
20:14	grrk-bzzt	I had 5sec of fun
20:14	EvergreenTree	let's not start that
20:14	grrk-bzzt	Can't wait for the text editor war
20:14	EvergreenTree	GEANY FTW!!1!
20:14	PenguinDad	EvergreenTree++
20:14	Krock	eeh. the german wikipedia has a Minetest site, the english not.
20:14	grrk-bzzt	GUI SUXXXX
20:15	grrk-bzzt	cat > file
20:15	grrk-bzzt	Ctrl+D when you're done writing
20:15	Krock	!c 'cat' > 'file'
20:15	MinetestBot	False
20:15	grrk-bzzt	lol
20:15	EvergreenTree	<3 MinetestBot
20:15	MinetestBot	<3 EvergreenTree
20:15	EvergreenTree	grrk-bzzt: if you don't like gui's use vim
20:16	grrk-bzzt	I would if I wasn't already using emacs
20:16	EvergreenTree	^ or emacs
20:16	EvergreenTree	:p
20:16	grrk-bzzt	:)
20:16	grrk-bzzt	I admit the keyboard shortcuts of emacs sucks ballz
20:16	grrk-bzzt	Like…
20:17	grrk-bzzt	Yeah whatever
20:17	EvergreenTree	gedit and kate are what I use generally
20:17	grrk-bzzt	At least the macros are a lot of fun to use
20:17	EvergreenTree	but geany for coding
20:17	EvergreenTree	grrk-bzzt: true
20:17	* Krock	inserts grrk-bzzt into google translator and searchs the "speak" button
20:17	grrk-bzzt	wat?
20:18	EvergreenTree	He wants to know how google would say your nick
20:18	EvergreenTree	:P
20:18	Krock	jukebox
20:18	grrk-bzzt	Oh alright
20:18	grrk-bzzt	It's an Internet nick, it's only pronouncable on the Internet
20:18	grrk-bzzt	Like "Hello grrk-bzzt"
20:18	grrk-bzzt	or "Wow, well said grrk-bzzt"
20:19	EvergreenTree	I would say it "girk bzt"
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20:19	Krock	I would it say it like "grrkbzzt"
20:19	grrk-bzzt	haha
20:20	EvergreenTree	reminds me of that old argument on how to say mese
20:20	EvergreenTree	I just say "mehseh"
20:21	EvergreenTree	but that's just my personal preference
20:21	Krock	I say "mese"
20:21	Jordach	me-ease
20:21	Calinou	me-ze
20:21	Calinou	“mésé” in French
20:21	Calinou	I read it like you would pronounce it in French
20:21	Jordach	easy mese lemon squeezy
20:21	Calinou	I took that habit since I started playing Minetest
20:22	PenguinDad	Mese is italian for month :D
20:23	Calinou	maybe in Spanish too
20:23	VanessaE	mese, rhymes with geese.  simple enough.
20:23	EvergreenTree	VanessaE: I say it like it's spanish
20:24	EvergreenTree	The vowels in spanish sound like "ah, eh, ea, oh, oo"
20:24	PenguinDad	I pronounce it like Jordach does
20:24	artur99	Francais? multi-language? :D
20:24	Jordach	PenguinDad, i lead into ease
20:25	* Krock	"speaks" 3 languages
20:25	* sfan5	throws Lua at Krock
20:25	LemonLake	^
20:25	LemonLake	ninja'd
20:26	LemonLake	http://lemoncreativity.deviantart.com/art/Okazaki-Family-Clannad-After-Story-466846636
20:26	LemonLake	it has been done
20:26	Krock	somewhat.equals(language, programming_language) -> false
20:26	artur99	Vreun român pe aicia? :))
20:26	Calinou	minetest.equals("Krock", minetest.get_modpath("krock_mod")) -> tralse
20:26	Krock	> tralse
20:26	LemonLake	>tralse
20:26	LemonLake	u wot
20:27	Krock	ninja'd
20:27	PenguinDad	!c "programming_language" > "language"
20:27	MinetestBot	True
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20:27	Ragnar_droid	Hi
20:27	artur99	hi
20:27	VanessaE	bbl
20:28	Ragnar_droid	Bye vaness
20:28	LemonLake	さようなら
20:28	artur99	西班牙人
20:28	Ragnar_droid	Lem... Show me ur work
20:29	LemonLake	Ragnar_droid: I just did.
20:29	Ragnar_droid	I just got back
20:29	LemonLake	http://lemoncreativity.deviantart.com/art/Okazaki-Family-Clannad-After-Story-466846636?ga_submit_new=10%253A1404937543
20:30	* Jordach	waves at LemonLake
20:30	* sfan5	waves at Jordach
20:30	LemonLake	Hi, Jordach
20:30	Ragnar_droid	Hi sfan and jord
20:31	Jordach	press that messages button ;3
20:31	LemonLake	whoa
20:31	LemonLake	you fuckin spammed me mate
20:31	LemonLake	'4'
20:31	LemonLake	aww thanks, now i have two llama badges :P
20:31	artur99	!seen OldCoder
20:31	MinetestBot	artur99: oldcoder was last seen at 2014-07-08 23:24:12 UTC on #minetest
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20:33	* Krock	can't remember the keys of Fast, fLy and noClip - gives them an useful key
20:34	LemonLake	h k and l iirc
20:34	Krock	wut?
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20:34	EvergreenTree	e is fast by default
20:34	EvergreenTree	but I switched it to f
20:35	webdesigner97	hello :)
20:35	EvergreenTree	and switche inventory to e
20:35	EvergreenTree	Hi web
20:35	Ragnar_droid	Hey shan5
20:35	Krock	but... W is near to E..
20:35	Ragnar_droid	Sfan
20:35	sfan5	https://plot.ly/~FloatingGhost/0/average-time-until-hitler/
20:35	sfan5	wat
20:36	LemonLake	um.
20:36	Ragnar_droid	I heard i could edit the alpha channel of textures in lua
20:37	Ragnar_droid	But how
20:37	* Krock	throws doc/lua_api.txt at Ragnar_droid
20:37	Ragnar_droid	I know that saturation was something like "texture.png^[sat50"
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20:38	Ragnar_droid	Is that correcr
20:38	Ragnar_droid	Correct
20:38	sfan5	maybe
20:38	Ragnar_droid	Cmon dood
20:38	Ragnar_droid	That would solve my problem
20:39	* Krock	slaps Ragnar_droid with minetest dev wiki
20:39	Ragnar_droid	Stahp
20:39	EvergreenTree	Ragnar_droid: there is a page about that
20:39	LemonLake	http://dev.minetest.net/texture
20:39	EvergreenTree	^
20:40	LemonLake	there is brighten, noalpha and makealpha
20:40	EvergreenTree	there isn't saturation
20:40	LemonLake	^
20:40	Krock	^
20:41	artur99	^
20:41	LemonLake	>
20:41	Krock	^^
20:42	hoodedice	Ragnar
20:42	hoodedice	Do you not know how to edit a texture?
20:42	LemonLake	^
20:42	Krock	^
20:42	LemonLake	just change the sat yourself
20:42	LemonLake	or alpha channel
20:42	EvergreenTree	>>>>>>>>^
20:43	artur99	⇕⇕⇕⇕⇕⇕
20:43	Krock	?
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20:44	LemonLake	→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→→^
20:45	artur99	anyone tested http://www.guhat.com until now? It really works?
20:45	Krock	bplaced.com
20:46	hoodedice	Can someone close this: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues/1463  We already have this feature
20:46	Krock	#minetest-dev
20:47	LemonLake	just jump in like "fuck you guys do this shit"
20:47	Krock	artur99, no serious hoster can do it for free
20:47	LemonLake	^
20:47	Krock	servers cost money
20:48	artur99	:D no I need VPS... I already have premium hosting
20:48	artur99	www.noendhost.com
20:48	Krock	so, chose one, which is based on AD or donations
20:48	Krock	"99,99% Server Uptime"
20:48	Krock	not good enough
20:48	PenguinDad	AD == Amazing Donuts :P
20:50	artur99	:))
20:50	artur99	i never saw it off
20:50	artur99	:D
20:51	artur99	and i've got it for free
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20:51	Krock	artur99, http://imgur.com/H3kePpf
20:51	artur99	I mean I worked a few hours for the owner, and he gave me a free acc
20:52	artur99	yeah... it's the man i worked with
20:52	artur99	:)))
20:52	Krock	ehm. okay
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21:06	artur99	anyone knowing a marketplace like codecanyon.com?
21:06	artur99	but well populated?
21:08	LemonLake	http://i.imgur.com/UA4zfQb.jpg
21:08	LemonLake	Caption: "After brain surgery my boyfriend couldn't think of the right names for things"
21:14	PilzAdam	ShadowNinja, topics in "News" section should be sorted by topic creation date, not last post
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21:19	thefamilygrog66	Howdy folks
21:20	thefamilygrog66	Is this normal for 0.4.10-dev? http://i.imgur.com/dFkRCdh.png
21:21	PenguinDad	thefamilygrog66: are you using standard minetest_game?
21:22	thefamilygrog66	Yes, PenguinDad - I just compiled it earlier today.
21:22	thefamilygrog66	It's just that I've never seem them in the sky before...
21:23	RealBadAngel	thefamilygrog66, youre just lucky
21:23	thefamilygrog66	Apparently!
21:24	EvergreenTree	thefamilygrog66: You are so lucky
21:24	EvergreenTree	Yes, it is normal, just extremely rare
21:24	EvergreenTree	they do seem more common if you use singlenode though
21:24	EvergreenTree	:P
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21:25	thefamilygrog66	Weird, I'll have to make note of the world's seed...
21:25	PilzAdam	thefamilygrog66, no, its a bug; your graphics card is probably broken
21:27	thefamilygrog66	KHHAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNN!!!
21:27	WindHero	That reminds me of the nyancat heaven mod I once saw...
21:27	thefamilygrog66	So, where do they hide the seed now? It doesn't show when I do a /status
21:28	PenguinDad	thefamilygrog66: press F5
21:28	thefamilygrog66	Haha, me lose brain? Uh oh.
21:28	thefamilygrog66	Thanks, PenguinDad.
21:29	thefamilygrog66	seed = 8267793110244542983
21:30	thefamilygrog66	coords: 341, 20, 25)
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21:58	hoodedice	Hai RBA
22:04	hoodedice	I am a bad person, and I should feel bad: http://imgur.com/J2kVJgT
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22:13	OldCoder	Yo
22:13	OldCoder	Who rang?
22:13	OldCoder	artur99 I C
22:14	RealBadAngel	hoodedice, LOL
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22:15	RealBadAngel	send her that: http://i1.kwejk.pl/site_media/obrazki/2012/01/89ec3adae24e8a3394065361258f6f5e.jpg?1325501897
22:16	RealBadAngel	"When cat is afraid of a mouse"
22:17	RealBadAngel	then youre gonna be bad to the bone ;)
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22:24	Jordach	https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=zNbpnphtesQ :D
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22:28	Jordach	ello Zeno`
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22:56	Jordach	ello WindHero
22:56	WindHero	hi Jordach
22:56	WindHero	how goes it?
22:56	Jordach	fine
22:58	WindHero	Hi Zeno`
22:58	Zeno`	hi Jordach and WindHero
22:58	WindHero	Slight bit of news...
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22:59	WindHero	my absence from CaveRealms development has been for a reason
22:59	WindHero	I'm cooking up a couple new ideas for SkyLands/Test :D
22:59	Zeno`	nice :)
23:00	WindHero	Heaven islands!
23:00	WindHero	very high up
23:00	WindHero	brb
23:00	Zeno`	but... but... but... Heaven Caves?
23:01	Zeno`	It's (caverealms) been running for over a week on my server now with no problems
23:01	Zeno`	None that I've noticed anyway :)
23:04	WindHero	back
23:04	WindHero	ROFL
23:05	WindHero	I really don't think heaven and caves go well together
23:05	WindHero	I have some plans for caverealms too, dw
23:05	WindHero	I've also been upkeeping my friend's server, so that's been eating up time
23:06	WindHero	mostly, he asked me to dig a path down to caverealms :P
23:06	Zeno`	Heal Caves
23:06	Zeno`	Hell*
23:07	Zeno`	I'm thinking of adding paramat's fissures, actually
23:07	Zeno`	(talking about digging down to the caverealms)
23:07	WindHero	that might work
23:07	WindHero	and more like Nether caves
23:07	WindHero	or maybe Nilfheim
23:08	Zeno`	I'm reluctant to add toooo much mapgen stuff though
23:08	Zeno`	on the server anyway
23:08	WindHero	that would give me an excuse for red glow crystals
23:08	Zeno`	red are definitely needed ;p
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23:09	Zeno`	once there are RGB, it opens up the more possibilities for more ore (or ore derivative products) crafts as well
23:09	Zeno`	I've been away for 3 days so haven't really done anything at all
23:10	WindHero	yeah, I've been fighting a tad bit of motivation problems
23:10	WindHero	I just don't want to burn myself out on CR dev
23:11	Zeno`	fairy nuff I say
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23:18	WindHero	Actually
23:19	WindHero	no, I don't want to make a biome that has anything to do with hell
23:19	WindHero	Instead
23:19	WindHero	I can make something visually similar
23:19	WindHero	but have it be the Dungeon Master's Keep
23:19	Zeno`	just need red crystals heh
23:19	WindHero	yup
23:19	Zeno`	and some skull scattered around the place
23:19	WindHero	I really want to make that awesomesauce biome with the ginormous crystals
23:20	Zeno`	glow skulls rofl
23:20	WindHero	but I'm not ready yet
23:20	WindHero	ROFL
23:20	WindHero	Maybe I could have an optional dependency on BlockMen's old bone mod
23:20	Zeno`	no
23:20	WindHero	and have the skulls craftable into bonemeal
23:20	Zeno`	I hate bones
23:20	Zeno`	yucky
23:20	WindHero	:(
23:21	WindHero	I like insta-grow trees tho
23:21	Zeno`	make it configurable then hehe
23:21	WindHero	alright, on my friend's server I'm 250 nodes down
23:21	WindHero	450+ to go....
23:22	WindHero	like I said, _optional_
23:23	Zeno`	Err on my server caverealms don't start until -6000 heh
23:23	Zeno`	if *I* mined to -6000 (and properly, not stupid 1x1 shafts) then others can :D
23:23	Zeno`	pity I keep teleporting people to them so they can look
23:23	Zeno`	oh well
23:24	WindHero	lolol
23:24	WindHero	yeah, I'm making a 3x4 tunnel down
23:25	WindHero	thankfully haven't hit any lava
23:25	WindHero	I also did a large portion of it with bettertnt
23:25	WindHero	gonna set up minecarts up and down
23:32	Zeno`	make basecamps like I do hehe
23:33	WindHero	perhaps
23:33	WindHero	currently it's mostly an expressway
23:33	WindHero	with regular rails going down
23:33	WindHero	and HolyPhoenix's special "Speed Rails" going up
23:34	WindHero	(which basically are 4x as fast as power rails)
23:34	Zeno`	ohh, nice
23:35	WindHero	it's taking forever and a day to get there with my terrible lag though
23:36	Zeno`	gotta hate that
23:37	Zeno`	is it lag or mapgen stalling? :p
23:37	WindHero	3G, sometimes 4G wifi connection brought to you by Verizon Wireless
23:37	* WindHero	stabs himself
23:37	WindHero	it's lag
23:37	Zeno`	umm, yes that would do it
23:37	WindHero	mostly from Lava ABMs
23:37	WindHero	on the surface I rarely get terrible lag
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