IRC log for #minetest, 2014-01-22

Time	Nick	Message
00:14	diemartin	Taoki, poke
00:14	VanessaE	<Taoki> ow.
00:14	VanessaE	;)
00:16	Taoki	diemartin: hi
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00:54	VanessaE	ok, how was it that I enable jungles again?
00:55	iqualfragile	VanessaE: add jungles magpen flag or smth
00:55	VanessaE	I know it's a mapgen flag but damned if I know what flag, or where it's documented at.
00:56	VanessaE	here it is.
00:56	VanessaE	v6_jungles
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02:30	harrison	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAmcCvECucM
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02:43	MinetestBot	GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Merge pull request #32 from ShadowNinja/admin-only-lua https://gi 2014-01-21T18:42:16-08:00 http://git.io/x5N6Ag
02:43	MinetestBot	GIT: ShadowNinja commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Make /lua and /luatransform administrator-only https://gi 2014-01-21T08:14:24-08:00 http://git.io/hSd4fg
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02:48	fwilson	is there a way to "sprint" i.e. fast without freemove?
02:49	diemartin	fwilson, nope :/
02:49	fwilson	:\ darnit
02:49	diemartin	actually, yes
02:49	fwilson	:O
02:49	diemartin	misread that
02:49	fwilson	tellmetellmetellme
02:50	diemartin	you can run without free move
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02:50	fwilson	diemartin: how do i run :\
02:50	diemartin	hold E
02:50	fwilson	oh neat
02:50	fwilson	thanks
02:51	ShadowNinja	~enable roulette
02:51	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: Error: That command wasn't disabled.
02:51	fwilson	also, is there a mod that you know of that limits the fast speed?
02:51	ShadowNinja	What?
02:51	ShadowNinja	~owner enable roulette
02:51	ShadowBot	ShadowNinja: Error: That command wasn't disabled.
02:51	diemartin	~roulette
02:52	ShadowBot	diemartin: click
02:52	diemartin	O_o
02:52	ShadowNinja	Huh.
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03:16	MinetestBot	GIT: ShadowNinja commited to minetest/minetest: Add pointed_thing to minetest.register_on_placenode 1b5b6fe692 2014-01-21T19:06:40-08:00 http://git.io/OetWPw
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04:53	katyusha	Is it possible yet to run minetest on a mac
04:53	katyusha	I want my friend to play, sadly he uses a mac
05:05	us_0gb	katyusha: Sad indeed, but it could be worse. Many months ago, I think someone managed to get Minetest running on a Mac, but it wasn't easy.
05:05	katyusha	us_0gb, yeah... I'm not gonna have an easy time getting him to switch over to GNU/Linux
05:05	katyusha	I may try getting him to run it in wine
05:06	us_0gb	Also, I wouldn't even bother trying on a PowerPC processor. I have Minetest running on a PowerPC processor, but it does not work well (at least the client doesn't).
05:07	us_0gb	But if Wine is functioning, I'm assuming it's not a PowerPC processor.
05:12	katyusha	yeah, it's an x86
05:12	katyusha	unsure what architechure however
05:14	us_0gb	THe biggest obstacle should be the compiling for the system then. I'd experiment and see what I could find, but I don't have any copies of OS X to test on.
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05:27	katyusha	us_0gb, it seems I'll just either have to convince him to use GNU/Linux or just drop it
05:28	katyusha	it's too much trouble and my distaste for OS X makes me not really want to continue with it..
05:29	us_0gb	katyusha: Good luck then. It would be great if we had an OS X port, but that takes a maintainer.
05:29	katyusha	Thanks
05:29	us_0gb	I understand how you feel. If I had to try to make it work on Windows, my distaste for that would get in the way.
05:30	katyusha	I actually wouldn't mind minetest being GNU/Linux and possibly BSD only, as it would drive people over to the OS
05:30	katyusha	but regardless, thanks
05:30	us_0gb	Assuming there wasn't a readily-available Windows version.
05:30	katyusha	well yeah :P
05:31	us_0gb	I think someone got it running on BSD fairly easily .... just a few minor modifications that were later added upstream.
05:31	katyusha	can you compile it on say, freebsd easily now?
05:31	katyusha	Or does it need patches
05:32	us_0gb	As for removing the Windows version, I hear Minetest is a pain in the rear to compile without the buildbot. It would be a shame if something were to ... happen to the buildbot. If you know what I'm saying.
05:32	us_0gb	I think you can compile on BSD without modification now, but I'm not sure.
05:33	katyusha	what is buildbot?
05:33	katyusha	but yes I understand ;)
05:34	us_0gb	It's a set of scripts for compiling on and/or for Windows, I think. I don't know, I haven't looked at it. It's in the Minetest source tree if you want to take a look.
05:35	katyusha	ah ok
05:39	us_0gb	I think though that if Minetest were not available on Windows, it wouldn't drive people away from Windows - it would drive them away from Minetest.
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07:33	reactor	'ello
07:36	cornernote	sup
07:36	reactor	Been procrastinating all evening, still got A.
07:37	cornernote	in your science/philosophy ?
07:37	reactor	Electronics.
07:37	cornernote	nice
07:38	cornernote	i never did well in school
07:38	cornernote	i think it wasnt a good learning environment for me
07:39	cornernote	hight school that is
07:39	cornernote	high*
07:39	cornernote	never went on to uni or anything
07:39	reactor	...turned out I had memorised all semester's material on the fly, so didn't have to cram.
07:40	reactor	I wonder what I'm doing wrong, because other subjects I still have to cram, no matter how well I do during term (and I do do well).
07:40	reactor	Oh... Sorry to hear that; how come?
07:41	cornernote	i guess some subject you enjoy more, and the information flows better ?
07:41	cornernote	i found it easier to learn on my own
07:41	reactor	I enjoy quantum mechanics just as well.
07:41	cornernote	teachers just read crap from a book
07:42	reactor	Remembering school... well, whose school didn't suck!@
07:42	cornernote	i figure skip the middleman, read the book myself
07:42	reactor	It's not a good environment at all.
07:42	cornernote	its not for everyone, but it works for me
07:43	reactor	Books are often full of little details, and principial things get lost.
07:43	cornernote	you can miss a lot of info doing it this way
07:43	cornernote	but you can gain a lot that others didnt get too
07:43	reactor	Lecturers do a good job stressing important facts.
07:43	reactor	At least ours do.
07:43	cornernote	eg, i learned php/mysql well before it was being taught at schools
07:43	cornernote	but i lacked some fundamental computer science concepts
07:44	cornernote	had to figure out things the hard way
07:44	reactor	Oh, I see your point.
07:44	reactor	Pre-reading is good.
07:44	cornernote	i never programmed anything in my life before php (well, if you dont include commodore64 basic)
07:45	cornernote	not even html markup
07:45	cornernote	then i just read the manual, about 6 times
07:45	cornernote	and then one day all those words that ment nothing, started to have meaning
07:45	reactor	The whole manual? I thought they are better used as reference material.
07:46	cornernote	it was php3, so the manual was smaller
07:46	cornernote	didnt read the entire function ref, but all other parts
07:46	reactor	So, only what is essential?
07:46	cornernote	i didnt know what was essential
07:46	cornernote	so i just started on page 1
07:47	cornernote	printed the thing
07:47	cornernote	lol
07:47	reactor	Speaking of which, we need an algorithm that determines what parts of a big book can be skipped without harm.
07:47	cornernote	depends on the book
07:48	cornernote	that bok you had in quantum stuff... sounds like most of it can be skipped =)
07:48	reactor	Say, you've just read Berne's Introduction to Psychoanalysis. Then you decide to read a compilation of Freud.
07:48	cornernote	this is a nice book on QED - http://www.scribd.com/doc/7119268/2physics-Qed-Feynman-Qed-the-Strange-Theory-of-Light-and-Matter-Princeton-University-Pre
07:49	cornernote	dont skip any pages
07:49	reactor	Some things are repeated, and in Berne's version they are better.
07:49	cornernote	ahh, i se what you mean
07:49	cornernote	like the book knows your previous books
07:49	cornernote	so there is a "skip these parts, you already know them"
07:49	reactor	That book on String Theory was not even ST, it was _about_ ST. I regret reading it before reading ST itself.
07:50	cornernote	read the Feynman one
07:50	cornernote	hes brilliant
07:50	reactor	...I think it's safer to read later books, then skip corresponding parts in earlier books.
07:50	cornernote	not only that, but a brilliant explainer
07:51	reactor	Quantum Electrodynamics?
07:51	cornernote	yea
07:51	reactor	We've bee studying this topic recently.
07:52	reactor	Hmm.
07:52	cornernote	theres a video set thats similar to the book if you prefer to kick back - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPDP_8X5Hug
07:52	cornernote	but i highly recommend the book
07:52	cornernote	i dont do this for school or anything
07:52	reactor	Is there a list of books by Feynman?
07:52	cornernote	just for personal interest
07:53	cornernote	i have no idea, probably is... just ask google
07:54	cornernote	i was interested in it because it offered to expalain the universe
07:54	cornernote	but the more i learn, the less i know
07:54	cornernote	lol
07:55	cornernote	i found a link to einsteins SR too
07:55	cornernote	i only read a small part, but it was really interesting to just read the intro
07:56	reactor	been there; I think I need to read about GR before moving on to ST.
07:57	cornernote	no, other way around... i think you need to know SR first
07:57	cornernote	SR = GR with no gravity/accelleration
07:59	reactor	I've been there
08:00	cornernote	i love the 1st page: http://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/einstein/works/1910s/relative/relativity.pdf (page6)
08:00	cornernote	he explains so well that geometry on paper really really seems to match the universe we live in
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08:09	reactor	~...why do headers in that book seem dark-blue?
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08:20	cornernote	no idea
08:20	cornernote	so... what can we do that's sciency in minetest?
08:20	cornernote	something in mesecons, but need an idea for a new build
08:21	reactor	Pripyat.
08:21	cornernote	a city ?
08:21	reactor	As for why, well, I've already made the map, rather, ported the one by someone else some time ago.
08:22	reactor	I need someone to whom I could pass it on. It's far from completion.
08:22	cornernote	how u gunna do the nuclear disaster ?
08:23	cornernote	build the reactor from TNT lol
08:23	reactor	It's past-disaster city.
08:23	reactor	I didn't port the plant itself, for I didn't have time.
08:25	reactor	Nor am I very interested in the plant itself; it's just like any other nuclear plant if you don't count disaster site.
08:25	reactor	The city itself would be an interesting location for survival mode.
08:25	reactor	...or deathmatch.
08:26	reactor	If you're interested, I could show you some screens of what I made.
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08:33	reactor	...not sure about the mesecons part, though.
08:33	reactor	Other than elaborate boobytraps.
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08:35	reactor	OldCoder: g'mowin
08:35	OldCoder	reactor, moin
08:35	* OldCoder	will sleep shortly
08:36	* OldCoder	has had another odd month and appreciates patience
08:36	reactor	Haven't seen you for a while and a number of reasons; how's the how's?
08:37	OldCoder	reactor, I am so tired physically
08:38	OldCoder	But attempting to put things together
08:38	OldCoder	I am grateful for the greeting
08:38	OldCoder	The meeting should not be fleeting :-)
08:38	OldCoder	But I will be asleep in moments
08:38	* OldCoder	rests
08:38	OldCoder	reactor, ^
08:39	reactor	Mighty nighty night then! o/
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11:35	specing	troller: you should really turn off liquid dirt
11:35	specing	I did a tunnel and now the hill looks weird
11:47	troller	okay
11:48	troller	but after restart
11:48	specing	and can you apply that patch already? :X
11:48	specing	I needed cobbles today and activated two tnts
11:48	specing	then spend the next 5 mins clicking like a maniac
11:53	troller	restarted
11:53	troller	patch - no
11:55	troller	if you want to reach top of moutains - you needd loooot of cobble 8)
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14:04	specing	proller: wow, I've hit a 10x10 mossy cobblestone cube cave, was that generated?
14:05	proller	dungeon
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14:14	specing	proller: its massive
14:14	specing	proller: goto road and follow the road
14:14	proller	i cant now
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14:40	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
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15:10	iqualfragile	"I will take a look later. Much much later. Because I'm Ukrainian and we have revolution right now. Sorry" nice
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15:37	iqualfragile	http://www.isnichwahr.de/comments/uploads/1044/51761390388658.jpg
15:38	PilzAdam	isdochwahr
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15:56	PenguinDad	hi john_minetest
16:05	Jordach	http://mg.viewskew.com/u/jordach/m/walking-test-3-1/ PilzAdam :P
16:05	PilzAdam	wrong textures ;_;
16:05	Jordach	8th time
16:05	Jordach	pfft spotify
16:13	PilzAdam	fun fact: 4 people googled "nodetopia" and clicked on the link to my repo
16:14	PilzAdam	(since 9th january)
16:20	ShadowNinja	PilzAdam: Wher'd you get those stats?
16:23	PilzAdam	ShadowNinja, https://github.com/blog/1672-introducing-github-traffic-analytics
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16:36	proller	and all 4 have nick "PilzAdam" ?
16:36	PilzAdam	PilzAdams dont use google
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16:40	reactor	Oh, me.
16:40	reactor	What are you looking at?
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16:41	reactor	I am not a pony, stop this staring.
16:42	reactor	It must be the goggles? You don't like it when people wear goggles?
16:42	PilzAdam	ponies sometimes wear goggles
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16:54	kaeza	greetings
16:54	Sokomine	hi
16:54	reactor	PilzAdam: that does not make me one
16:55	Sokomine	i'm wondering what players/server admins will think about an anvil that can be used to repair tools - similar to technic. instead of setting up technic once and waiting, you have to hit the anvil with a hammer
16:56	Sokomine	that anvil-nodebox from realtest fits well into my cottages-mod; i wanted to have an anvil for some time anyway. and such a node calls for usage...
16:57	PilzAdam	I guess it would be cool in the realtest game
17:07	Sokomine	the anvil exists already in the realtest game. it is absolutely necessary there and a core element for creating tools. repairing is less necessary there because tools last a very long time (once you've manage to create them - which is not as easy as in default)
17:07	PilzAdam	I mean that hitting with a hammer
17:08	reactor	2guys1hammer
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17:23	rubenwardy	Hi all
17:25	kaeza	hey ruben
17:27	rubenwardy	What up in da hood, bruva?
17:27	rubenwardy	(lol)
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17:29	Jordach	i'd go for that n bomb, but nukes don't cut it
17:32	ShadowNinja	Jordach: Hmmm?
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17:53	Sokomine	PilzAdam: ah. realtest requires the hammer to be placed inside the anvil. i think hitting is more logical. also it is used by the wheat-processing tools for cottages
17:56	kaeza	are the forum slowing down again or it's just my crappy 3G?
17:56	kaeza	+s
17:57	PilzAdam	yes
17:57	kaeza	._.
17:57	iqualfragile	PilzAdam: Muck bloÃŸ nicht uff hier du Rudi
18:00	proller	specing, you are second!
18:00	proller	BlockBuilder places node default:cobble at (8935,1804,2263)
18:00	iqualfragile	proller: hafti beste!
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18:06	proller	wat?
18:06	iqualfragile	john_minetest: Nicht link von hinten ich hau dich frontal sakat
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18:07	iqualfragile	wut m8? ich dacht das wÃ¤r ne parodie, der nimmt sich wirklich ernst?
18:07	proller	Ð¿Ð¾Ð½Ð°ÐµÑ…Ð°Ð»Ð¾ Ñ‚ÑƒÑ‚
18:07	kaeza	no se entiende un carajo ._.
18:08	PilzAdam	iqualfragile, john_minetest, proller, kaeza, this is an english channel
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18:08	ShadowNinja	Ehm, we DO have seperate non-english channels.
18:08	iqualfragile	PilzAdam: Dein Yokuzuna Sumo ficke ich mit nem push Kick
18:09	ShadowNinja	iqualfragile: Did you ask for a kick? >:-)
18:09	PilzAdam	Is it better to not write german gangster rap in this channel? I think so.
18:10	ShadowNinja	^
18:12	ShadowNinja	True, perhaps...
18:13	kaeza	http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/45115285.jpg
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18:27	JackGruff	is it just me or have the jokes in xkcd become less technically over the years?
18:27	JackGruff	technical*
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18:35	rubenwardy	HTML5 2d particle physics! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=in8VAwe8DmQ
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19:18	sfan5	meow
19:20	VanessaE	hi
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19:25	sfan5	john_minetest: http://i.imgur.com/nySOBtb.jpg
19:25	PilzAdam	no kitten fight! Im allergic to adorableness!
19:28	* sfan5	throws a kitten at PilzAdam
19:28	STHGOM	:O
19:29	STHGOM	INCOMEING!!!!!
19:34	* rubenwardy	empties a box of kittens over sfan5's head
19:34	sfan5	/usr/bin/kittengen --infinite --only=cute /home/rubenwardy/
19:35	rubenwardy	xkill /usr/bin/kittengen;
19:35	rubenwardy	Mw ha ha ha
19:35	sfan5	kittengen is not a graphical app
19:35	* reactor	fizzles all kittens
19:35	* sfan5	puts Rainbow Dash on rubenwardy's head
19:35	reactor	Don't worry. There are spare ones.
19:35	jin_xi	http://i.imgur.com/lddrYWO.jpg have some manuls
19:35	reactor	sfan5: you suck at typesetting.
19:36	reactor	Who's gonna notice that dash is coloured?
19:36	reactor	Waste of ink it is.
19:36	sfan5	!rainbow -
19:36	MinetestBot	4-
19:36	sfan5	\o/
19:36	rubenwardy	!rainbow ~g hi!
19:36	MinetestBot	4~4g4 7h7i7!
19:36	reactor	It's a typewriter minus, not a dash eh.
19:37	rubenwardy	!reverse !ih g~
19:37	MinetestBot	~g hi!
19:37	rubenwardy	nope.
19:37	reactor	ih? You're calculating something from quantum mechanics?
19:41	reactor	...you're not.
19:42	MinetestBot	4~4~4~7~7~7~8~8~8~3~3~3~~~~6~6~6~~~~4~4~4~7~7~7~8~8~8~3~3~3~~~~6~6~6~~~~4~4~4~7~7[78]8:8â€‹3
19:42	reactor	!rainbow pointlessness
19:42	MinetestBot	4p4o4i7n7t7l8e8s8s3n3e3ss
19:43	STHGOM	!rainbow KITTENS!!!
19:43	MinetestBot	4K4I4T7T7E7N8S8!8!3!
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19:49	sfan5	!c int(bin('~')[2:])
19:49	MinetestBot	Exception: type object argument after * must be a sequence, not generator
19:49	sfan5	!c 1
19:49	MinetestBot	1
19:49	sfan5	!c 1+1
19:49	MinetestBot	2
19:56	rubenwardy	!c self = {}
19:56	MinetestBot	Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Dict'
19:56	rubenwardy	!c self = 0
19:56	MinetestBot	0
19:56	rubenwardy	!c 1
19:56	MinetestBot	1
19:56	rubenwardy	:P
19:56	rubenwardy	!c tmp = 2
19:56	MinetestBot	2
19:56	rubenwardy	!c tmp
19:56	MinetestBot	Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Name'
19:57	MinetestBot	Exception: AST node type not allowed: 'Name'
20:04	STHGOM	cya
20:14	reactor	Pwned.
20:15	rubenwardy	!eval hi = 1
20:15	rubenwardy	bye all
20:16	reactor	What's the point of building an expression calculator into an IRC bot?
20:16	reactor	Don't you know about the wonderful program called bc(1)?
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20:32	EvergreenTree	o/
20:42	sfan5	!c bin(4)
20:42	MinetestBot	'0b100'
20:43	sfan5	!c len(bin(4))
20:43	MinetestBot	5
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20:52	ShadowNinja	sfan5: You should probably add ShadowBot to MinetestBot's ignore list.
20:53	sfan5	why?
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21:07	khonkhortisan	I have enjoyed this fisheye modification to quake. http://shaunlebron.com/blinky/ I wish to copy that functionality to another game. Is minetest a good game to add that to?
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21:19	RealBadAngel	khonkhortisan, try adding fov = 120 to config
21:23	khonkhortisan	try fov = 179
21:23	khonkhortisan	rectilinear isn't good for wide views
21:23	khonkhortisan	I already play at 120
21:25	khonkhortisan	and 360 is great
21:25	PilzAdam	AFAIK Minetest limits it to 180
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21:26	khonkhortisan	because of the projection used
21:31	khonkhortisan	at 179 if you look down next to a tree you can see inside it
21:33	PilzAdam	bye
21:34	khonkhortisan	If I added it to a first-person shooter, I'd be called a cheater. Minetest is more construction than pvp, and I'm wondering if irrlicht will allow me to mess with the render
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22:34	jojoa1997	hello
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22:37	qwrwed	@ShadowNinja: Thanks for adding register_on_placenode, but actually it was register_on_punchnode... It may be helpful in mods, but could you add pointed_thing to register_on_punchnode as well?
22:37	qwrwed	(pointed_thing)
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23:01	jojoa1997\|PC	hi long time no see
23:01	khonkhortisan	hello
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