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iqualfragile_ |
actually germans also open their present tomorrow/today (14.) |
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kaeza |
in Uruguay we open presents after 00:00, Dec 25 :) |
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madprogrammi |
hi |
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* madprogrammi |
instantly realizes he disturbed the serenity of the chatroom |
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PilzAdam |
hi |
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madprogrammi |
Ah, just the person I need :) |
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madprogrammi |
So... I was using Nodetopia (or at least trying to) |
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PilzAdam |
what problems did you have? |
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madprogrammi |
I could not move in 0.4.8 stable |
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PilzAdam |
well, you cant run it in stable |
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PilzAdam |
get a dev version |
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madprogrammi |
or 0.4.7.. the only build that worked was when I did the compile myself off of 0.4.8-dev |
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madprogrammi |
hm. Using newer features? |
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madprogrammi |
Ah. I have to go. Thanks PilzAdam. :) |
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us_0gb |
Can't move? Now I'm intrigued. I'm going to have to look at the commit history and see what sort of new feature would cause one to not be able to move in a dev game. |
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PilzAdam |
us_0gb, its only if you use Nodetopia with a non-dev version |
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us_0gb |
PilzAdam: Yes, but that means that there's something in Nodetopia that prevents movement in non-dev versions but allows moving in a newer dev version. |
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PilzAdam |
yes, its the new set_physics_override |
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us_0gb |
I've got to know what feature would do that. |
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us_0gb |
Ah, got it. |
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us_0gb |
That makes a lot of sense. |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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MinetestBot |
Hirato: <thexyz> https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer/tree/enet |
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Hirato |
lol |
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Hirato |
nice |
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Hirato |
thexyz: btw, you can replace about 60000 lines of autofoo with a simple shellscript :P |
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Hirato |
thexyz: btw, you can also use #if 0 to comment stuff out, rather than deleting the comment markers |
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Hirato |
heh, nvm the shell thing, looks liek you adapted it for CMake |
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thexyz |
ah right |
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thexyz |
well that commented code should be deleted now anyway |
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VanessaE |
bbl |
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Hirato |
haha |
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Hirato |
so how does it perform? |
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sfan5 |
!tell Jordach nom,nom! |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around |
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thexyz |
Hirato: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8074 |
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thexyz |
it's good |
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thexyz |
I'll also test sapier's network improvements branch later today |
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Edelwin |
=) |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all; happy Christmas Eve! :-D |
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Megaf |
Hi all |
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Megaf |
VanessaE's plantlife mod is causing my server to crash often http://paste.debian.net/72441/ |
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Megaf |
Wouldn't be nice if to be able to craft buckets a bucket priv was needed? |
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markveidemanis |
Hieelleo |
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Megaf |
Hi markveidemanis |
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thexyz |
do you love errors in code as much as I do? |
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thexyz |
https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/api.lua#L31 |
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Hirato |
thexyz: could be worse https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61095 |
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Jordach |
thexyz, roll my most recent post forward a day |
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Jordach |
i wanna see the fucking reactions :P |
| 10:33 |
thexyz |
lol |
| 10:34 |
thexyz |
"but after adding spaces around the + it works as intended." |
| 10:34 |
thexyz |
hey, there's a workaround |
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fairiestoy |
"This bug has been fixed in SVN." << ? |
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Hirato |
the workaround doesn't make it any less funny :p |
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Jordach |
it ain't fucking christmas until TOMORROW. |
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Hirato |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toe-8ykTUT8 yo ho ho argh |
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thexyz |
I can't benchmark sapier's fixes |
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Hirato |
it's christmas EVE today |
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thexyz |
because every bot eats ~200% CPU |
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Hirato |
christmas is tomorrow |
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thexyz |
with video driver set to null |
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Hirato |
lol |
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thexyz |
(and that's after fixing a bit of zero division errors) |
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Hirato |
so enet wins? |
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thexyz |
well that's a bit unfair, don't you think? |
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Hirato |
well... IPv6 support aside... :P |
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Megaf |
Any word on improving clearobjects performance? |
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thexyz |
don't think so |
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thexyz |
I think there should just be a flag, which says that objects older than `age` shall be wiped when loaded |
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thexyz |
well, not age but "bith time" |
| 10:56 |
thexyz |
and then /clearobjects should just reset this flag |
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thexyz |
so when engine tries to load new blocks and activate objects it instead wipes them |
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proller |
for what you want clear objects ? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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arsdragonfly |
peers are throwing a party at each other :-P |
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arsdragonfly |
by no means is it a silent night |
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Megaf |
Hi PilzAdam |
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Megaf |
$ sqlite map.sqlite VACUUM |
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Megaf |
Unable to open database "map.sqlite": file is encrypted or is not a database |
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Megaf |
whats wrong here? |
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thexyz |
shouldn't the command line tool be called "sqlite3"? |
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sfan5 |
it is called sqlite3 not sqlite |
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iqualfragile_ |
Megaf: you are trying to use sqlite2 on a sqlite3 database, please use sqlite3 instead |
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jabbo |
my acnl dream code: 6800 2848 9335 |
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VanessaE |
? |
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VanessaE |
wtf is acnl? |
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jabbo |
Animal Crossing New Leaf |
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VanessaE |
and this has to do with minetest somehow? |
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VanessaE |
hey nore |
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jabbo |
nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope |
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nore |
hi... can't stay for long though |
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jabbo |
IM AR A FUCKING SHIT MEN |
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jabbo |
ARE |
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jabbo |
A FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK |
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Jordach |
!kick jabbo spam |
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Jordach |
BOOM. HEADSHOT. |
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thexyz |
and this is why you should never try drugs |
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Jordach |
plol |
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proller |
or select god drugs only |
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proller |
good |
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Jordach |
100 users |
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Jordach |
:O |
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Lynxx |
o.o |
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raffahacks |
megad? |
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raffahacks |
megaf: are you here? |
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* Jordach |
checks the MT Skin reop |
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Jordach |
repo* |
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Jordach |
\O/ soooooo many skins based off of Sam I |
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specing |
proller: any news @ tnt? |
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proller |
i have good idea, but have no time to do it |
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specing |
proller: stacking to 99? |
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proller |
yes, + range depended on number of near tnts |
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proller |
look around and count (9 max) |
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proller |
and maybe step-by-step explosion from center |
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proller |
with player damage |
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Megaf |
iqualfragile_, Thanks |
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sfan5 |
15:12:46: ACTION[ServerThread]: 2cute2talk2you punches [....] |
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sfan5 |
ahahahahaha |
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sfan5 |
dat name |
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Megaf |
man, I like my new keyboard |
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Megaf |
so good to type on it |
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Megaf |
http://www.geniusnet.com/wSite/ct?xItem=47593&ctNode=137&mp=1 |
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Megaf |
This one |
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Megaf |
I had 3 or 4 Microsoft keyboard already |
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specing |
Megaf: get a ducky shine |
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thexyz |
is it mechanical? |
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specing |
yes |
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thexyz |
what about Megaf's |
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specing |
probably not |
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thexyz |
what switches does it have? |
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specing |
"super slim" and "mechanical" don't go together |
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thexyz |
ah, I didn't even check it out |
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Hirato |
oh... no wonder proller's git hasn't seen updates in months :o |
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Hirato |
bleh.. this setup makes it a pain to do automated pkgbuilds... |
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thexyz |
what're you doing? |
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Hirato |
I'm an Arch user, I have a PKGBUILD set up to generate git builds of minetest for me to install via the distro's package manager :P |
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Hirato |
looking into freeminer, but it's using sub modules, and that shit's a pain :P |
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Hirato |
don't want to do a whole 'git submodule --recursive init update' thing, since that means redownloading everything every time |
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Hirato |
it's only two though, still a pain :p |
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thexyz |
meanwhile http://i.imgur.com/gPst5Iv.png |
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thexyz |
redownload? |
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thexyz |
can't you just use --depth 1 or something |
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Hirato |
it's not how the PKGBUILDs work :p |
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Hirato |
you set a source, in this case, it's: https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer.git, this is, it doesn't do any recursion |
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thexyz |
whoa, that's stupid |
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Hirato |
so to do submodules, you need to either i nthe prepare state do the 'git submodule update --recursive --init' there, which means, redownload ALL submodules from scratch |
| 15:02 |
Hirato |
alternatively, you add the submodules themselves into the sources, and init them manualyl during prepare() |
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thexyz |
can't you use --depth 1 though? when fetching submodules |
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Hirato |
that's not the issue :P |
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Hirato |
it does seem that you can limit it to one branch |
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Hirato |
whatever, I'll just copy the stuff durign the package stage ^^ |
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thexyz |
inb4 we include sources as submodules |
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Hirato |
I mostly did it so I could use git versions of a bunch of mods :P |
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Hirato |
cunt! |
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Hirato |
I wonder if freeminer works better with mods in /usr/share/whatever |
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thexyz |
can you submit this pkgbuild to AUR? |
| 15:11 |
thexyz |
I'm sure it doesn't |
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proller |
Hirato, git submodule update --recursive --init does not redownload anything if it exists |
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Hirato |
makepkg starts by deleting the src directory, after which is copies all its fetches sources to there; this guarantees a clean build |
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Hirato |
this means, guess what, the aforementioned stuff doesn't exist :P |
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Megaf |
lol 15:13:04: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Admin supplied empty password |
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Megaf |
thexyz, not a mechanical |
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Megaf |
but pretty good for a non mechanical one |
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Hirato |
thexyz: http://pastebin.com/WhqYvysD the vanilla minetest version |
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Megaf |
wow, before clearobjects and vacuum, max_lag=5, after clearobjects and vacuum, max_lag=0.16 |
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thexyz |
> not using the superior leveldb backend |
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Hirato |
flag for enabling |
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thexyz |
whoa whoa |
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thexyz |
no freetype dep, no gettext dep |
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Hirato |
fucks given: 0 |
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Hirato |
it's not like I tried to submit this to the AUR |
| 15:18 |
Hirato |
fuck, my "patch" doesn't evne have an MD5 sum |
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thexyz |
ah well |
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Hirato |
it's really just a hackjob "fix" of the last one |
| 15:19 |
Hirato |
with a bunch of mods added in :D |
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Hirato |
anyway, what's the flag for enabling LEVELDB? |
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thexyz |
that's tricky |
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thexyz |
but it's ENABLE_LEVELDB |
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Hirato |
-DENABLE_LEVELDB ? |
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thexyz |
=1 |
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Hirato |
hmmm... size went down by 43MB when installing freeminer over minetest :o |
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Hirato |
a world loads.. and hte weirdest rain I've ever seen is falling |
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thexyz |
the weather is indeed weird |
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Hirato |
it's like someone is spawning a single blob of random each frame at a random position in hte sky |
| 15:34 |
thexyz |
your pull request to fix it is very welcome |
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thexyz |
yeah, that's how particles work, I guess |
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* Hirato |
cannot into Lua |
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thexyz |
what about C++? |
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Hirato |
must better with that, but minetest's code is weird to me ^^ |
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Hirato |
I come form a world where we just pretend it's C with some nice extras :p |
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thexyz |
ah |
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thexyz |
well minetest code has some weird usage of C++ |
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Hirato |
...did the rain spawn little water puddles on the map? |
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thexyz |
it's like there are some people who prefer to use C and, well, use C instead of C++ where they can |
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Megaf |
is this bug or griefing? http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot624956282.php |
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thexyz |
oh god why are there still people without freetype |
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Hirato |
:windows: |
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Megaf |
thexyz, who are you talking about? |
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thexyz |
dunno! |
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Megaf |
Also this, http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot625094923.php |
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Megaf |
that looks pretty much like a bug |
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Hirato |
bitmap fonts aren't always that bad, for example if you draw them via SDF :P |
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raffahacks |
Hi megaf! |
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Hirato |
SDF fonts scale REALLY well and use very little memory, comparatively |
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raffahacks |
Does ur port work? |
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Megaf |
raffahacks, nope, Im stuck |
| 15:43 |
Hirato |
Megaf: IMO, it could be either or |
| 15:43 |
raffahacks |
Mean mac port |
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Hirato |
maybe the sky's falling? :o |
| 15:43 |
thexyz |
Hirato: that's already fixed by ttf fonts for minetest |
| 15:44 |
thexyz |
no need to fix what's not broken, especially considering how many (not) people develop minetest |
| 15:44 |
raffahacks |
Where's the problem |
| 15:44 |
Hirato |
text would look better if they had outline s:P |
| 15:44 |
thexyz |
they have shadow |
| 15:44 |
Megaf |
raffahacks, it keeps missing the bus =/ |
| 15:45 |
raffahacks |
Which bus |
| 15:45 |
Hirato |
shadows don't contrast well enough with the background |
| 15:45 |
thexyz |
and outline would look awful |
| 15:45 |
raffahacks |
Right hirato, was talking about that just yesterday |
| 15:45 |
thexyz |
with small font size |
| 15:46 |
thexyz |
anyway! |
| 15:46 |
thexyz |
the github is open for your pull requests |
| 15:46 |
jin_xi |
lol? |
| 15:47 |
Hirato |
:P |
| 15:47 |
thexyz |
? |
| 15:48 |
Enke |
Well, personally, I think the text would look better if it was placed in it's own darkened window. |
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thexyz |
http://store.lightpack.tv/products/lightpack |
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Hirato |
lol, torches only burn for a few seconds? |
| 16:02 |
thexyz |
what's your excuse for not buying it? |
| 16:02 |
Hirato |
oh nvm, local server lag I guess |
| 16:02 |
thexyz |
yea |
| 16:02 |
thexyz |
lags happen |
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thexyz |
is it on FM? |
| 16:02 |
Hirato |
damn it's laggy |
| 16:03 |
Hirato |
freeminer? yeah |
| 16:03 |
thexyz |
there are some improvements that aren't merged yet |
| 16:03 |
thexyz |
like enet |
| 16:03 |
Hirato |
I sohuld grab it :P |
| 16:03 |
thexyz |
*performance improvements |
| 16:03 |
thexyz |
it's still under development |
| 16:04 |
thexyz |
i.e. no ipv6 support now |
| 16:04 |
thexyz |
it'll just crash |
| 16:04 |
Hirato |
unfortunate |
| 16:04 |
thexyz |
but of course feel free to test it |
| 16:05 |
Hirato |
looks like lee wants to do enet2 for IPv6, as he can't seem to think of a clean way to add it without API/ABI breakage |
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thexyz |
isn't there some pull request which adds it? |
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thexyz |
will the protocol be compatible? |
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* Hirato |
shrugs |
| 16:06 |
Hirato |
probably |
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Hirato |
grabbing enet branch now |
| 16:08 |
Enke |
How hard is it to compile FM for someone who has never compiled anything? As in, how many programs do I have to install beforehand, etc. etc.? |
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specing |
Enke: probably the same as minetest |
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proller |
depend on OS |
| 16:09 |
Enke |
I'm on win. 7, how hard is Minetest? |
| 16:09 |
Hirato |
and compile flags |
| 16:09 |
proller |
~impossible |
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specing |
Enke: lol, good luck. |
| 16:10 |
Enke |
Yeah, that's what I thought. |
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thexyz |
why, it's not that hard |
| 16:10 |
thexyz |
you just run cmake, generate a project and compile it with MSVC |
| 16:11 |
thexyz |
that's all! simple stuff! |
| 16:11 |
thexyz |
nothing ever goes wrong, too |
| 16:11 |
proller |
firs you must buy MSVC ;) |
| 16:11 |
thexyz |
the express edition is free |
| 16:11 |
thexyz |
also there's dreamspark for students |
| 16:11 |
Enke |
Really? So I would just have to install cmake and MSVC express? |
| 16:11 |
proller |
what about 10+ libs with dll ? |
| 16:12 |
thexyz |
for a minimal build you don't need any dependencies other than irrlicht |
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thexyz |
(I think, not too sure) |
| 16:12 |
thexyz |
but you won't have curl, freetype, gettext, sound |
| 16:12 |
thexyz |
luajit |
| 16:12 |
thexyz |
and that's where it gets tricky |
| 16:13 |
Enke |
Ok, so to get some other good stuff I would have to install curl, freetype, etc.? |
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Hirato |
bleh.. it didn't grab the right branch |
| 16:14 |
thexyz |
not install, but compile |
| 16:14 |
thexyz |
and then configure in cmake |
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thexyz |
lightpack is 146% open source! |
| 16:16 |
thexyz |
you should go on and support open hardware right now |
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Enke |
Okay, I'll look around for some guides. |
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Hirato |
crashes :/ |
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thexyz |
of course it does! |
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thexyz |
start with disabling ipv6 |
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specing |
Enke: It'll be faster to install GNU/Linux and compile there |
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Hirato |
hmm? |
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Enke |
Yeah, I s'pose. I don't really feel like learning a new OS though. |
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Hirato |
as in, globally? |
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thexyz |
yes, there's some flag |
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thexyz |
disable all flags with ipv6 in name |
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Hirato |
oh.. found a workaround: host server, 127.0.0.1 |
| 16:19 |
thexyz |
that too |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
you didn't specify what exactly crashed though |
| 16:20 |
thexyz |
Enke: there's some guide in minetest's readme.txt but feel free to ask if something's not clear |
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Enke |
Okay. I don't plan on doing it today, but I may get it done over this 2 week break I've got. Thank you everyone for your help. |
| 16:21 |
Hirato |
http://pastebin.com/hDmv1qa7 you seem to know exactly what it is though :P |
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thexyz |
Hirato: did you try to use ipv6 or what? |
| 16:27 |
Hirato |
nah, just start singleplayer game |
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Megaf |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=123018#p123018 |
| 16:29 |
Hirato |
still kind of laggy though |
| 16:29 |
Hirato |
damn mods |
| 16:29 |
Hirato |
I bet they're responsible |
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thexyz |
you can profile it |
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Jordach_ |
another spammer bytes the dust |
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Hirato |
yeah... I think it's the weather mod |
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Hirato |
melting/freezing water, and spawning liquid everywhere |
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Enke |
Question: Could MinGW be used in place of MSVC? |
| 16:40 |
Hirato |
yes |
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thexyz |
although I've never compiled with MinGW and it has its downsides too, so you'll have to ask for help someone else |
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Enke |
Hmm, okay. I ask because the express edition of MSVC asks for a registration key, and that's the last thing I want to do. |
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Exio4 |
we need a C with objects and without all the shit of C++ |
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jin_xi |
objective-c? |
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kaeza |
Exio4, OOP is possible in C |
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thexyz |
Exio4: nice try but what c++ shit are you talknig about? |
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kaeza |
structs anyone? |
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kaeza |
anyway, greetings |
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Edelwin |
thexyz: the whole code :D |
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thexyz |
structs? |
| 16:43 |
thexyz |
what about inheritance and polymorphism? |
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Exio4 |
thexyz: that is what I mean |
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Hirato |
C++ structs are just classes with default public perms :P |
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kaeza |
inheritance: possible, polymorphism, dunno |
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thexyz |
also yeah, I think some people do crazy shit |
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thexyz |
like implementing vtables in C |
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Exio4 |
the polymorphism is tricky |
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thexyz |
because C++ SUX CAN NOT USE |
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kaeza |
anyway, don't even know what you are talking about, just meddling in random conversations :P |
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thexyz |
(that's more related to your typical hater, not those people who implement vtables actually) |
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thexyz |
john_minetest: do you use STL? |
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Enke |
I need OpenAL for sound, correct? |
| 16:46 |
thexyz |
openal, vorbis and ogg |
| 16:47 |
Enke |
OpenAl, libvorbis 1.3.3, libvorbisfile, and libogg? |
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thexyz |
nah, not believing |
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jin_xi |
>_> |
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thexyz |
john_minetest: can you post some your code? |
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thexyz |
Exio4: yup |
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thexyz |
;_; |
| 16:47 |
jin_xi |
standard template library |
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Exio4 |
i'm trying to get the words for saying the shit |
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Exio4 |
but i don't know them |
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Enke |
Well, that's great. connect.creativelabs.com not found. |
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thexyz |
https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/415187396469063682 |
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Exio4 |
C++ looks like a low level language that tries to be like an high-level |
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Exio4 |
with shits from both sides, and mixing them badly |
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Exio4 |
i don't know how to word this better |
| 16:51 |
Exio4 |
if you wanted to use "C++" at its max potential you will end crazy because it has useless shit for everything |
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Exio4 |
(but that is OOP, who would have said it adds too many useless abstractions) |
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Exio4 |
up to some level, they are nice |
| 16:51 |
Exio4 |
then they just make the code too verbose and ugly |
| 16:52 |
Enke |
Then again, I never use sound anyway... |
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Hirato |
lol, the bones mod just deleted my entire inventory |
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thexyz |
ah, so you actually are using stl |
| 16:53 |
thexyz |
> if(World::grid[World::xpos][World::ypos].south=="true") |
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thexyz |
s-strings? |
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thexyz |
well that's not how you typically should code |
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jin_xi |
bitch pls |
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Inocudom |
You should make a new post in your HDX Texture Packs topic, VanessaE. That way, people will think it is still active. |
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Exio4 |
i would use a switch/case there instead of if(s) |
| 16:59 |
Exio4 |
and avoid the "World::" part there, what is the point of it, shouldn't it be part of the private data, somehow? |
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thexyz |
Exio4: how would you use switch/case there? |
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fairiestoy |
john_minetest: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/195802/switch-case-vs-if-else What is more important: Look or performance? |
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thexyz |
what is more important is that you can't fucking use fucking switch with fucking std::string |
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Exio4 |
thexyz: you can't? |
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Exio4 |
i thought you could, because C++ weirdness |
| 17:02 |
thexyz |
now go and learn the damn language |
| 17:03 |
thexyz |
instead of complaining about it |
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Exio4 |
sure, give me enough time to learn to code in java first |
| 17:03 |
Exio4 |
i need those OOP skills |
| 17:03 |
thexyz |
what for? |
| 17:03 |
Exio4 |
i'll coding in C |
| 17:03 |
thexyz |
do you know C? |
| 17:04 |
Exio4 |
lets say |
| 17:04 |
thexyz |
on a scale of 1 to 10 |
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thexyz |
what's your knowledge of C? |
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Exio4 |
5? |
| 17:05 |
thexyz |
eh |
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Edelwin |
U__U |
| 17:06 |
thexyz |
I don't know any tricky C questions |
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thexyz |
int a = 2; a = a++ + ++a; // what will this set a to? |
| 17:06 |
fairiestoy |
Exio: How can you access the member of a structure if you have only a pointer to that structure? |
| 17:06 |
Edelwin |
6 \o/ |
| 17:07 |
Inocudom |
Here is a video of someone keeping a male carpenter bee as a pet: http://youtu.be/rmN52-EIIpI |
| 17:07 |
Exio4 |
6? |
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fairiestoy |
Edelwin: Shouldn't it be 5? |
| 17:07 |
Exio4 |
fairiestoy: i don't get the question tbh |
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thexyz |
perhaps! but I wanted a different answer |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
a correct one |
| 17:08 |
Exio4 |
is it implementation defined? |
| 17:08 |
Inocudom |
Here is that same bee eating maple syrup: http://youtu.be/GiGP2uVRk94 |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
it is undefined behavior |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
because there are no sequence points |
| 17:08 |
Exio4 |
ha |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
and same memory is accessed/modified |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
now the next question |
| 17:08 |
thexyz |
what are the sequence points? |
| 17:09 |
Exio4 |
translate to spanish |
| 17:09 |
Exio4 |
and i'll tell you |
| 17:09 |
thexyz |
puntos de secuencia |
| 17:09 |
Exio4 |
isn't it the order or how it should run? |
| 17:09 |
Inocudom |
The cuteness is unimaginable. The innocence of that bee. |
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Exio4 |
i don't know the wording |
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thexyz |
there's more tricky stuff about C |
| 17:10 |
thexyz |
i.e. integer promotion |
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thexyz |
and other stuff |
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Exio4 |
that is why i said 5 |
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thexyz |
but it could be 43 |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
err, 42 |
| 17:11 |
thexyz |
or any value |
| 17:11 |
Exio4 |
as long as the scale wasn't linear |
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Enke |
Hmm. How easy is compiling in Ubuntu? |
| 17:11 |
Enke |
compiling minetest/freeminer. |
| 17:12 |
Exio4 |
150% easier than windows |
| 17:12 |
thexyz |
When your code has undefined behavior, you get a seg fault and corrupted data. When Jeff Dean's code has undefined behavior, a unicorn rides in on a rainbow and gives everybody free ice cream. |
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us_0gb |
Minetest comes with instructions for compiling in Ubuntu. It;s ridiculously easy, Enke. |
| 17:13 |
Enke |
That's what I thought. Hmm. I know what I want for Christmas! XD |
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us_0gb |
Those instructions work on the rest of the Debian family too, it seems. |
| 17:14 |
Enke |
Goody! |
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sapier |
Merry Christmas to all! |
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sapier |
thexyz I don't want you to meet "my standards" (which are quite relaxed to standards set e.g. for linux kernel, samba wine ...) I just want there to be defined standards different from "none" |
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us_0gb |
When is Christmas, anyway? I forget. |
| 17:17 |
thexyz |
then don't complain |
| 17:18 |
sapier |
oops wrong channel ;-) |
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sapier |
christmas depends on timezone and nationality in germany it's usually 24th of december right after church |
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* us_0gb |
next asks about New Year's Day, which he hears is coming up |
| 17:21 |
thexyz |
i googled christmas and got a nice animation |
| 17:23 |
thexyz |
there honestly has to be a service which provides simple countdowns to any specified date |
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thexyz |
as simple as http://time.is |
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Enke |
Huh. apperantly my clock is 4.6 seconds fast. |
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jin_xi |
Enke: i start a game now on nao |
| 17:27 |
Enke |
Okay. |
| 17:28 |
Enke |
I'll continue my old one, is that okay? |
| 17:28 |
jin_xi |
sure |
| 17:28 |
Enke |
Okay, I'm on. Username:EnkeNethack |
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Enke |
I'm watching yours. |
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jin_xi |
well fuck |
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Enke |
Yeah, that stinks. |
| 17:50 |
jin_xi |
well, next try |
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thexyz |
I didn't know about this http://yuenhoe.com/blog/category/anime/hana-no-android-gakuen/ |
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zsoltisawesome |
hey alll |
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JamesTait |
Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year, everyone! |
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markveidemanis |
Merry christmas and new year!!! |
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proller |
83 ipv6 only players! |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Use sleep_ms instead of select in httpfetch when max_fd == -1, fixes WSAEINVAL 3aa28bc7a2 2013-12-24T10:28:09-08:00 http://git.io/G1gybA |
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zsoltisawesome |
i getting an error when i try to run MT |
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zsoltisawesome |
"minetest: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libk5crypto.so.3: cannot read file data: Input/output error" |
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zsoltisawesome |
anyone know what could have caused this? |
| 18:48 |
thexyz |
reboot |
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Edelwin |
'k |
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zsoltisawesome |
ok |
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zsoltisawesome |
ok it works now, thanks |
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zsoltisawesome |
online mod repository button causes me to go the credits page with no tabs... |
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kaeza |
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/rc_car.jpg |
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OWNSyouAll |
zsoltisawesome, press esc to get out of that |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Mark the region with an entity cube. https://gi 2013-12-24T11:07:42-08:00 http://git.io/tR1Fsw |
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Sokomine |
hm. minetest/src/sha1.cpp:149: void SHA1::addBytes(const char*, int): Zusicherung »num > 0« nicht erfüllt |
| 19:13 |
Sokomine |
any clues as to what might be up there? |
| 19:14 |
thexyz |
your message isn't in english |
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cisoun |
Happy minetestmas everyone. |
| 19:18 |
Sokomine |
to you as well |
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iqualfragile_ |
is there some way to delete a mapblock entirely so it gets regenerated in worldedit and or minetest |
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cisoun |
Sokomine: thanks ! |
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Lynxx |
hello happy holidays :3 |
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zsoltisawesome |
we should have a URI |
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Lynxx |
what's up? |
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Lynxx |
that* |
| 19:32 |
Lynxx |
....still tired XD |
| 19:33 |
zsoltisawesome |
like mt://<SERVERNAME>:[PORT]/[USERNAME].[PASSWORD] |
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zsoltisawesome |
*server address |
| 19:33 |
zsoltisawesome |
it would be cool |
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kaeza |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8097 |
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zsoltisawesome |
um |
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Jordach |
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm? |
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zsoltisawesome |
well, kaeza's mod isn't working |
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kaeza |
"mod not work pls fix" |
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kaeza |
anything to add? |
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zsoltisawesome |
i got screenshots |
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zsoltisawesome |
https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/lmddyl25ToWhQ7FrGtYf https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/KQtoPmvZSPSAmJTLrhEb |
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kaeza |
well, did you install the mod correctly (and enabled it in world config)? |
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zsoltisawesome |
well, shit |
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kaeza |
I'll take that as a "no" |
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Exio4 |
don't worry baby ~ |
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* Exio4 |
eats some sandwiches |
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Exio4 |
kaeza: vos que haces? o es el year nuevo en tu family? |
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zsoltisawesome |
lol |
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Exio4 |
voseo*spanish + english |
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zsoltisawesome |
kaeza: is there a way from the car to have like headlights? |
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kaeza |
zsoltisawesome, yes, make them :P |
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Miner_48er |
zsoltiawesome code from the flashlight from technic? lags alot |
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kaeza |
I coded this in like half an hour (excluding the model) |
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zsoltisawesome |
lol |
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kaeza |
:P |
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zsoltisawesome |
you know those super realistic car models? |
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kaeza |
yes, but it doesn't really fit into minetest's ambient |
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phantombeta |
Hi |
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zsoltisawesome |
ya |
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phantombeta |
How's it going? |
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zsoltisawesome |
ok |
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phantombeta |
That's good |
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Lynxx |
hmm i was wondering is there a screen shot of the new horizon+fog thing that the dev/devs are working on? |
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Lynxx |
really? |
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Lynxx |
found the topic |
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raffahacks |
Merry Christmas in advance ;) |
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raffahacks |
Where can I post the Minetest classic binary for Linux? Compiled it |
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raffahacks |
Maybe someone doesn't want to compile it |
| 21:17 |
raffahacks |
Where |
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raffahacks |
Thanks |
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Exio4 |
are there any mods that use minetest.item_eat |
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Exio4 |
i mean |
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Exio4 |
outside the on_use = minetest.item_eat(1234) |
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Lynxx |
i think the food mod? |
| 21:23 |
Lynxx |
but i think that mod is outdated dunno |
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raffahacks |
Megaf? |
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raffahacks |
Megaf: are you in? |
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Exio4 |
john_minetest: that is why i asked, https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/03c56f8 |
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Exio4 |
i was doing nothing in my SP world |
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Exio4 |
(creative), and then i tried to dig shit with an apple |
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Megaf |
raffahacks, Yes? |
| 21:34 |
Exio4 |
why would i eat if i don't even have health |
| 21:35 |
Exio4 |
but this is a game |
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Exio4 |
ok |
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* Exio4 |
gives john_minetest a creative-friendly apple |
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* john_minetest |
tries to eat it but fails :( |
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Exio4 |
aww |
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Exio4 |
i don't know |
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Exio4 |
i don't actually play minetest |
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Exio4 |
i just play it randomly and get bored after 25-35 seconds of playing |
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Exio4 |
i'm a survival guy where you have 150 mobs outside and you're with a dirt house trying to save yourself for one night |
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Exio4 |
and knowing when you are out there will be still some mobs around, even if most of them died at night |
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Exio4 |
or if you have some basic gear, get out and try to fight them |
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Exio4 |
with the low reserves of food you had |
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Lynxx |
sounds like an adventure |
| 21:46 |
Exio4 |
i don't really like creative, and a decent survival is too laggy atm :( |
| 21:48 |
Exio4 |
after that startup stage where all the resources are hard-as-fuck to get and where you actually know how to manage yourself in game and how to fight the mobs properly and so on, i like playing in a community |
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Exio4 |
before, not that much |
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Exio4 |
also, nothing like being able to build a insane build with resources that you manually got somehow! |
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proller |
NOOOOOOO |
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prestotron55 |
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proller |
win. |
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Megaf |
How do I enable snowfall in my server? |
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Niffy |
Hi. |
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Niffy |
{\rtf1\ |
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Niffy |
Jordach: putting Crevis on forums and redeveloping in a new coding language |
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Niffy |
w |
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Niffy |
Making a new game atm, just was looking up Preston's '54000 views per day' website which didn't even exist, found some irc logs on google |
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Niffy |
Just clearing a few things up |
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proller |
Niffy, you == prestotron55 ? |
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sfan5 |
proller: no |
| 22:29 |
sfan5 |
probably 'Niften' |
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proller |
brothers? |
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hmmmm |
hey sfan5, so about your tab playerlist |
| 22:30 |
sfan5 |
yeah? |
| 22:30 |
hmmmm |
why did you decide to hardcode an irrlicht listbox for no formspec |
| 22:31 |
hmmmm |
why didn't you make a formspec with a listbox as the default formspec that gets overwritten? |
| 22:31 |
sfan5 |
dunno... I didn't have the idea to do it that way when I coded it |
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hmmmm |
would you be able to write a formspec for that? |
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sfan5 |
hmmmm: yes |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/lkDhENv.jpg |
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blubblubb |
naww |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Make SHA1::addBytes(..., 0) a no-op instead of an assertion failure bf9f50bc0e 2013-12-24T15:29:00-08:00 http://git.io/aOKapQ |
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