Time  Nick            Message
00:03 iqualfragile_   actually germans also open their present tomorrow/today (14.)
00:22 kaeza           in Uruguay we open presents after 00:00, Dec 25 :)
00:44 madprogrammi    hi
00:44 * madprogrammi  instantly realizes he disturbed the serenity of the chatroom
00:45 PilzAdam        hi
00:45 madprogrammi    Ah, just the person I need :)
00:45 madprogrammi    So... I was using Nodetopia (or at least trying to)
00:46 PilzAdam        what problems did you have?
00:46 madprogrammi    I could not move in 0.4.8 stable
00:47 PilzAdam        well, you cant run it in stable
00:47 PilzAdam        get a dev version
00:47 madprogrammi    or 0.4.7.. the only build that worked was when I did the compile myself off of 0.4.8-dev
00:47 madprogrammi    hm. Using newer features?
00:49 madprogrammi    Ah. I have to go. Thanks PilzAdam. :)
01:11 us_0gb          Can't move? Now I'm intrigued. I'm going to have to look at the commit history and see what sort of new feature would cause one to not be able to move in a dev game.
01:16 PilzAdam        us_0gb, its only if you use Nodetopia with a non-dev version
01:17 us_0gb          PilzAdam: Yes, but that means that there's something in Nodetopia that prevents movement in non-dev versions but allows moving in a newer dev version.
01:17 PilzAdam        yes, its the new set_physics_override
01:17 us_0gb          I've got to know what feature would do that.
01:18 us_0gb          Ah, got it.
01:18 us_0gb          That makes a lot of sense.
01:40 PilzAdam        bye
02:42 MinetestBot     Hirato: <thexyz> https://github.com/xyzz/freeminer/tree/enet
02:42 Hirato          lol
02:42 Hirato          nice
02:47 Hirato          thexyz: btw, you can replace about 60000 lines of autofoo with a simple shellscript :P
02:50 Hirato          thexyz: btw, you can also use #if 0 to comment stuff out, rather than deleting the comment markers
02:52 Hirato          heh, nvm the shell thing, looks liek you adapted it for CMake
04:58 thexyz          ah right
04:58 thexyz          well that commented code should be deleted now anyway
06:20 VanessaE        bbl
06:20 Hirato          haha
06:20 Hirato          so how does it perform?
07:24 sfan5           !tell Jordach nom,nom!
07:24 MinetestBot     sfan5: I'll pass that on when Jordach is around
09:02 thexyz          Hirato: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8074
09:02 thexyz          it's good
09:02 thexyz          I'll also test sapier's network improvements branch later today
09:04 Edelwin         =)
09:05 JamesTait       Good morning all; happy Christmas Eve! :-D
09:35 Megaf           Hi all
09:35 Megaf           VanessaE's plantlife mod is causing my server to crash often http://paste.debian.net/72441/
09:56 Megaf           Wouldn't be nice if to be able to craft buckets a bucket priv was needed?
10:12 markveidemanis  Hieelleo
10:20 Megaf           Hi markveidemanis
10:24 thexyz          do you love errors in code as much as I do?
10:24 thexyz          https://github.com/PilzAdam/mobs/blob/master/api.lua#L31
10:30 Hirato          thexyz: could be worse https://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=61095
10:32 Jordach         thexyz, roll my most recent post forward a day
10:32 Jordach         i wanna see the fucking reactions :P
10:33 thexyz          lol
10:34 Jordach         [off] or: change the server time to the 25th
10:34 thexyz          "but after adding spaces around the + it works as intended."
10:34 thexyz          hey, there's a workaround
10:35 fairiestoy      "This bug has been fixed in SVN."  << ?
10:38 Hirato          the workaround doesn't make it any less funny :p
10:41 Jordach         it ain't fucking christmas until TOMORROW.
10:42 Hirato          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toe-8ykTUT8 yo ho ho argh
10:42 thexyz          I can't benchmark sapier's fixes
10:42 Hirato          it's christmas EVE today
10:42 thexyz          because every bot eats ~200% CPU
10:42 Hirato          christmas is tomorrow
10:42 thexyz          with video driver set to null
10:42 Hirato          lol
10:42 thexyz          (and that's after fixing a bit of zero division errors)
10:42 Hirato          so enet wins?
10:43 thexyz          well that's a bit unfair, don't you think?
10:43 Hirato          well... IPv6 support aside... :P
10:49 Megaf           Any word on improving clearobjects performance?
10:56 thexyz          don't think so
10:56 thexyz          I think there should just be a flag, which says that objects older than `age` shall be wiped when loaded
10:56 thexyz          well, not age but "bith time"
10:56 thexyz          and then /clearobjects should just reset this flag
10:57 thexyz          so when engine tries to load new blocks and activate objects it instead wipes them
10:57 proller         for what you want clear objects ?
11:07 PilzAdam        Hello everyone!
11:15 arsdragonfly    peers are throwing a party at each other :-P
11:16 arsdragonfly    by no means is it a silent night
11:18 Megaf           Hi PilzAdam
12:04 Megaf           $ sqlite map.sqlite VACUUM
12:04 Megaf           Unable to open database "map.sqlite": file is encrypted or is not a database
12:04 Megaf           whats wrong here?
12:12 thexyz          shouldn't the command line tool be called "sqlite3"?
12:15 sfan5           it is called sqlite3 not sqlite
12:18 iqualfragile_   Megaf: you are trying to use sqlite2 on a sqlite3 database, please use sqlite3 instead
12:48 jabbo           my acnl dream code: 6800 2848 9335
12:48 VanessaE        ?
12:49 VanessaE        wtf is acnl?
12:50 jabbo           Animal Crossing New Leaf
12:50 VanessaE        and this has to do with minetest somehow?
12:50 VanessaE        hey nore
12:50 jabbo           nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooope
12:50 nore            hi... can't stay for long though
12:51 jabbo           IM AR A FUCKING SHIT MEN
12:51 jabbo           ARE
12:51 jabbo           A FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
12:51 Jordach         !kick jabbo spam
12:51 Jordach         BOOM. HEADSHOT.
12:52 thexyz          and this is why you should never try drugs
12:52 Jordach         plol
12:52 proller         or select god drugs only
12:52 proller         good
12:55 Jordach         100 users
12:55 Jordach         :O
12:58 Lynxx           o.o
13:10 raffahacks      megad?
13:11 raffahacks      megaf: are you here?
13:11 * Jordach       checks the MT Skin reop
13:11 Jordach         repo*
13:11 Jordach         \O/ soooooo many skins based off of Sam I
13:16 specing         proller: any news @ tnt?
13:17 proller         i have good idea, but have no time to do it
13:17 specing         proller: stacking to 99?
13:17 proller         yes, + range depended on number of near tnts
13:18 proller         look around and count (9 max)
13:19 proller         and maybe step-by-step explosion from center
13:19 proller         with player damage
14:00 Megaf           iqualfragile_, Thanks
14:13 sfan5           15:12:46: ACTION[ServerThread]: 2cute2talk2you punches [....]
14:13 sfan5           ahahahahaha
14:13 sfan5           dat name
14:13 Megaf           man, I like my new keyboard
14:13 Megaf           so good to type on it
14:16 Megaf           http://www.geniusnet.com/wSite/ct?xItem=47593&ctNode=137&mp=1
14:16 Megaf           This one
14:16 Megaf           I had 3 or 4 Microsoft keyboard already
14:18 specing         Megaf: get a ducky shine
14:19 thexyz          is it mechanical?
14:20 specing         yes
14:21 thexyz          what about Megaf's
14:21 specing         probably not
14:22 thexyz          what switches does it have?
14:22 specing         "super slim" and "mechanical" don't go together
14:22 thexyz          ah, I didn't even check it out
14:47 Hirato          oh... no wonder proller's git hasn't seen updates in months :o
14:50 Hirato          bleh.. this setup makes it a pain to do automated pkgbuilds...
14:55 thexyz          what're you doing?
14:56 Hirato          I'm an Arch user, I have a PKGBUILD set up to generate git builds of minetest for me to install via the distro's package manager :P
14:56 Hirato          looking into freeminer, but it's using sub modules, and that shit's a pain :P
14:57 Hirato          don't want to do a whole 'git submodule --recursive init update' thing, since that means redownloading everything every time
14:58 Hirato          it's only two though, still a pain :p
14:58 thexyz          meanwhile http://i.imgur.com/gPst5Iv.png
14:58 thexyz          redownload?
14:59 thexyz          can't you just use --depth 1 or something
15:00 Hirato          it's not how the PKGBUILDs work :p
15:01 Hirato          you set a source, in this case, it's: https://github.com/freeminer/freeminer.git, this is, it doesn't do any recursion
15:01 thexyz          whoa, that's stupid
15:01 Hirato          so to do submodules, you need to either i nthe prepare state do the 'git submodule update --recursive --init' there, which means, redownload ALL submodules from scratch
15:02 Hirato          alternatively, you add the submodules themselves into the sources, and init them manualyl during prepare()
15:03 thexyz          can't you use --depth 1 though? when fetching submodules
15:04 Hirato          that's not the issue :P
15:04 Hirato          it does seem that you can limit it to one branch
15:09 Hirato          whatever, I'll just copy the stuff durign the package stage ^^
15:10 thexyz          inb4 we include sources as submodules
15:10 Hirato          I mostly did it so I could use git versions of a bunch of mods :P
15:10 Hirato          cunt!
15:11 Hirato          I wonder if freeminer works better with mods in /usr/share/whatever
15:11 thexyz          can you submit this pkgbuild to AUR?
15:11 thexyz          I'm sure it doesn't
15:12 proller         Hirato, git submodule update --recursive --init    does not redownload anything if it exists
15:13 Hirato          makepkg starts by deleting the src directory, after which is copies all its fetches sources to there; this guarantees a clean build
15:13 Hirato          this means, guess what, the aforementioned stuff doesn't exist :P
15:13 Megaf           lol 15:13:04: ACTION[ServerThread]: Server: Admin supplied empty password
15:14 Megaf           thexyz, not a mechanical
15:14 Megaf           but pretty good for a non mechanical one
15:14 Hirato          thexyz: http://pastebin.com/WhqYvysD the vanilla minetest version
15:15 Megaf           wow, before clearobjects and vacuum, max_lag=5, after clearobjects and vacuum, max_lag=0.16
15:17 thexyz          > not using the superior leveldb backend
15:17 Hirato          flag for enabling
15:18 thexyz          whoa whoa
15:18 thexyz          no freetype dep, no gettext dep
15:18 Hirato          fucks given: 0
15:18 Hirato          it's not like I tried to submit this to the AUR
15:18 Hirato          fuck, my "patch" doesn't evne have an MD5 sum
15:19 thexyz          ah well
15:19 Hirato          it's really just a hackjob "fix" of the last one
15:19 Hirato          with a bunch of mods added in :D
15:20 Hirato          anyway, what's the flag for enabling LEVELDB?
15:23 thexyz          that's tricky
15:23 thexyz          but it's ENABLE_LEVELDB
15:23 Hirato          -DENABLE_LEVELDB ?
15:23 thexyz          =1
15:24 Hirato          hmmm... size went down by 43MB when installing freeminer over minetest :o
15:33 Hirato          a world loads.. and hte weirdest rain I've ever seen is falling
15:34 thexyz          the weather is indeed weird
15:34 Hirato          it's like someone is spawning a single blob of random each frame at a random position in hte sky
15:34 thexyz          your pull request to fix it is very welcome
15:35 thexyz          yeah, that's how particles work, I guess
15:35 * Hirato        cannot into Lua
15:35 thexyz          what about C++?
15:35 Hirato          must better with that, but minetest's code is weird to me ^^
15:36 Hirato          I come form a world where we just pretend it's C with some nice extras :p
15:36 thexyz          ah
15:36 thexyz          well minetest code has some weird usage of C++
15:36 Hirato          ...did the rain spawn little water puddles on the map?
15:36 thexyz          it's like there are some people who prefer to use C and, well, use C instead of C++ where they can
15:37 Megaf           is this bug or griefing? http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot624956282.php
15:38 thexyz          oh god why are there still people without freetype
15:38 Hirato          :windows:
15:39 Megaf           thexyz, who are you talking about?
15:41 thexyz          dunno!
15:41 Megaf           Also this, http://en.zimagez.com/zimage/screenshot625094923.php
15:41 Megaf           that looks pretty much like a bug
15:41 Hirato          bitmap fonts aren't always that bad, for example if you draw them via SDF :P
15:42 raffahacks      Hi megaf!
15:42 Hirato          SDF fonts scale REALLY well and use very little memory, comparatively
15:43 raffahacks      Does ur port work?
15:43 Megaf           raffahacks, nope, Im stuck
15:43 Hirato          Megaf: IMO, it could be either or
15:43 raffahacks      Mean mac port
15:43 Hirato          maybe the sky's falling? :o
15:43 thexyz          Hirato: that's already fixed by ttf fonts for minetest
15:44 thexyz          no need to fix what's not broken, especially considering how many (not) people develop minetest
15:44 raffahacks      Where's the problem
15:44 Hirato          text would look better if they had outline s:P
15:44 thexyz          they have shadow
15:44 Megaf           raffahacks, it keeps missing the bus =/
15:45 raffahacks      Which bus
15:45 Hirato          shadows don't contrast well enough with the background
15:45 thexyz          and outline would look awful
15:45 raffahacks      Right hirato, was talking about that just yesterday
15:45 thexyz          with small font size
15:46 thexyz          anyway!
15:46 thexyz          the github is open for your pull requests
15:46 jin_xi          lol?
15:47 Hirato          :P
15:47 thexyz          ?
15:48 Enke            Well, personally, I think the text would look better if it was placed in it's own darkened window.
16:02 thexyz          http://store.lightpack.tv/products/lightpack
16:02 Hirato          lol, torches only burn for a few seconds?
16:02 thexyz          what's your excuse for not buying it?
16:02 Hirato          oh nvm, local server lag I guess
16:02 thexyz          yea
16:02 thexyz          lags happen
16:02 thexyz          is it on FM?
16:02 Hirato          damn it's laggy
16:03 Hirato          freeminer? yeah
16:03 thexyz          there are some improvements that aren't merged yet
16:03 thexyz          like enet
16:03 Hirato          I sohuld grab it :P
16:03 thexyz          *performance improvements
16:03 thexyz          it's still under development
16:04 thexyz          i.e. no ipv6 support now
16:04 thexyz          it'll just crash
16:04 Hirato          unfortunate
16:04 thexyz          but of course feel free to test it
16:05 Hirato          looks like lee wants to do enet2 for IPv6, as he can't seem to think of a clean way to add it without API/ABI breakage
16:05 thexyz          isn't there some pull request which adds it?
16:06 thexyz          will the protocol be compatible?
16:06 * Hirato        shrugs
16:06 Hirato          probably
16:08 Hirato          grabbing enet branch now
16:08 Enke            How hard is it to compile FM for someone who has never compiled anything? As in, how many programs do I have to install beforehand, etc. etc.?
16:09 specing         Enke: probably the same as minetest
16:09 proller         depend on OS
16:09 Enke            I'm on win. 7, how hard is Minetest?
16:09 Hirato          and compile flags
16:09 proller         ~impossible
16:10 specing         Enke: lol, good luck.
16:10 Enke            Yeah, that's what I thought.
16:10 thexyz          why, it's not that hard
16:10 thexyz          you just run cmake, generate a project and compile it with MSVC
16:11 thexyz          that's all! simple stuff!
16:11 thexyz          nothing ever goes wrong, too
16:11 proller         firs you must buy  MSVC ;)
16:11 thexyz          the express edition is free
16:11 thexyz          also there's dreamspark for students
16:11 Enke            Really? So I would just have to install cmake and MSVC express?
16:11 proller         what about 10+ libs with dll ?
16:12 thexyz          for a minimal build you don't need any dependencies other than irrlicht
16:12 thexyz          (I think, not too sure)
16:12 thexyz          but you won't have curl, freetype, gettext, sound
16:12 thexyz          luajit
16:12 thexyz          and that's where it gets tricky
16:13 Enke            Ok, so to get some other good stuff I would have to install curl, freetype, etc.?
16:13 Hirato          bleh.. it didn't grab the right branch
16:14 thexyz          not install, but compile
16:14 thexyz          and then configure in cmake
16:15 thexyz          lightpack is 146% open source!
16:16 thexyz          you should go on and support open hardware right now
16:16 Enke            Okay, I'll look around for some guides.
16:17 Hirato          crashes :/
16:17 thexyz          of course it does!
16:17 thexyz          start with disabling ipv6
16:17 specing         Enke: It'll be faster to install GNU/Linux and compile there
16:18 Hirato          hmm?
16:18 Enke            Yeah, I s'pose. I don't really feel like learning a new OS though.
16:18 Hirato          as in, globally?
16:19 thexyz          yes, there's some flag
16:19 thexyz          disable all flags with ipv6 in name
16:19 Hirato          oh.. found a workaround: host server, 127.0.0.1
16:19 thexyz          that too
16:20 thexyz          you didn't specify what exactly crashed though
16:20 thexyz          Enke: there's some guide in minetest's readme.txt but feel free to ask if something's not clear
16:20 Enke            Okay. I don't plan on doing it today, but I may get it done over this 2 week break I've got. Thank you everyone for your help.
16:21 Hirato          http://pastebin.com/hDmv1qa7 you seem to know exactly what it is though :P
16:27 thexyz          Hirato: did you try to use ipv6 or what?
16:27 Hirato          nah, just start singleplayer game
16:28 Megaf           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=123018#p123018
16:29 Hirato          still kind of laggy though
16:29 Hirato          damn mods
16:29 Hirato          I bet they're responsible
16:30 thexyz          you can profile it
16:32 Jordach_        another spammer bytes the dust
16:37 Hirato          yeah... I think it's the weather mod
16:37 Hirato          melting/freezing water, and spawning liquid everywhere
16:39 Enke            Question: Could MinGW be used in place of MSVC?
16:40 Hirato          yes
16:40 thexyz          although I've never compiled with MinGW and it has its downsides too, so you'll have to ask for help someone else
16:41 Enke            Hmm, okay. I ask because the express edition of MSVC asks for a registration key, and that's the last thing I want to do.
16:41 Exio4           we need a C with objects and without all the shit of C++
16:42 jin_xi          objective-c?
16:42 kaeza           Exio4, OOP is possible in C
16:42 thexyz          Exio4: nice try but what c++ shit are you talknig about?
16:42 kaeza           structs anyone?
16:42 kaeza           anyway, greetings
16:42 Edelwin         thexyz: the whole code :D
16:43 thexyz          structs?
16:43 thexyz          what about inheritance and polymorphism?
16:43 Exio4           thexyz: that is what I mean
16:43 Hirato          C++ structs are just classes with default public perms :P
16:43 kaeza           inheritance: possible, polymorphism, dunno
16:44 thexyz          also yeah, I think some people do crazy shit
16:44 thexyz          like implementing vtables in C
16:44 Exio4           the polymorphism is tricky
16:44 thexyz          because C++ SUX CAN NOT USE
16:44 kaeza           anyway, don't even know what you are talking about, just meddling in random conversations :P
16:44 thexyz          (that's more related to your typical hater, not those people who implement vtables actually)
16:45 thexyz          john_minetest: do you use STL?
16:46 Enke            I need OpenAL for sound, correct?
16:46 thexyz          openal, vorbis and ogg
16:47 Enke            OpenAl, libvorbis 1.3.3, libvorbisfile, and libogg?
16:47 thexyz          nah, not believing
16:47 jin_xi          >_>
16:47 thexyz          john_minetest: can you post some your code?
16:47 thexyz          Exio4: yup
16:47 thexyz          ;_;
16:47 jin_xi          standard template library
16:48 Exio4           i'm trying to get the words for saying the shit
16:48 Exio4           but i don't know them
16:50 Enke            Well, that's great. connect.creativelabs.com not found.
16:50 thexyz          https://twitter.com/0xabad1dea/status/415187396469063682
16:50 Exio4           C++ looks like a low level language that tries to be like an high-level
16:50 Exio4           with shits from both sides, and mixing them badly
16:50 Exio4           i don't know how to word this better
16:51 Exio4           if you wanted to use "C++" at its max potential you will end crazy because it has useless shit for everything
16:51 Exio4           (but that is OOP, who would have said it adds too many useless abstractions)
16:51 Exio4           up to some level, they are nice
16:51 Exio4           then they just make the code too verbose and ugly
16:52 Enke            Then again, I never use sound anyway...
16:52 Hirato          lol, the bones mod just deleted my entire inventory
16:52 thexyz          ah, so you actually are using stl
16:53 thexyz          > if(World::grid[World::xpos][World::ypos].south=="true")
16:53 thexyz          s-strings?
16:55 thexyz          well that's not how you typically should code
16:58 jin_xi          bitch pls
16:58 Inocudom        You should make a new post in your HDX Texture Packs topic, VanessaE. That way, people will think it is still active.
16:58 Exio4           i would use a switch/case there instead of if(s)
16:59 Exio4           and avoid the "World::" part there, what is the point of it, shouldn't it be part of the private data, somehow?
17:01 thexyz          Exio4: how would you use switch/case there?
17:01 fairiestoy      john_minetest: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/195802/switch-case-vs-if-else  What is more important: Look or performance?
17:02 thexyz          what is more important is that you can't fucking use fucking switch with fucking std::string
17:02 Exio4           thexyz: you can't?
17:02 Exio4           i thought you could, because C++ weirdness
17:02 thexyz          now go and learn the damn language
17:03 thexyz          instead of complaining about it
17:03 Exio4           sure, give me enough time to learn to code in java first
17:03 Exio4           i need those OOP skills
17:03 thexyz          what for?
17:03 Exio4           i'll coding in C
17:03 thexyz          do you know C?
17:04 Exio4           lets say
17:04 thexyz          on a scale of 1 to 10
17:04 thexyz          what's your knowledge of C?
17:04 Exio4           5?
17:05 thexyz          eh
17:05 Edelwin         U__U
17:06 thexyz          I don't know any tricky C questions
17:06 thexyz          int a = 2; a = a++ + ++a; // what will this set a to?
17:06 fairiestoy      Exio: How can you access the member of a structure if you have only a pointer to that structure?
17:06 Edelwin         6 \o/
17:07 Inocudom        Here is a video of someone keeping a male carpenter bee as a pet: http://youtu.be/rmN52-EIIpI
17:07 Exio4           6?
17:07 fairiestoy      Edelwin: Shouldn't it be 5?
17:07 Exio4           fairiestoy: i don't get the question tbh
17:07 thexyz          perhaps! but I wanted a different answer
17:08 thexyz          a correct one
17:08 Exio4           is it implementation defined?
17:08 Inocudom        Here is that same bee eating maple syrup: http://youtu.be/GiGP2uVRk94
17:08 thexyz          it is undefined behavior
17:08 thexyz          because there are no sequence points
17:08 Exio4           ha
17:08 thexyz          and same memory is accessed/modified
17:08 thexyz          now the next question
17:08 thexyz          what are the sequence points?
17:09 Exio4           translate to spanish
17:09 Exio4           and i'll tell you
17:09 thexyz          puntos de secuencia
17:09 Exio4           isn't it the order or how it should run?
17:09 Inocudom        The cuteness is unimaginable. The innocence of that bee.
17:10 Exio4           i don't know the wording
17:10 thexyz          there's more tricky stuff about C
17:10 thexyz          i.e. integer promotion
17:10 thexyz          and other stuff
17:10 Exio4           that is why i said 5
17:11 thexyz          but it could be 43
17:11 thexyz          err, 42
17:11 thexyz          or any value
17:11 Exio4           as long as the scale wasn't linear
17:11 Enke            Hmm. How easy is compiling in Ubuntu?
17:11 Enke            compiling minetest/freeminer.
17:12 Exio4           150% easier than windows
17:12 thexyz          When your code has undefined behavior, you get a seg fault and corrupted data. When Jeff Dean's code has undefined behavior, a unicorn rides in on a rainbow and gives everybody free ice cream.
17:12 us_0gb          Minetest comes with instructions for compiling in Ubuntu. It;s ridiculously easy, Enke.
17:13 Enke            That's what I thought. Hmm. I know what I want for Christmas! XD
17:13 us_0gb          Those instructions work on the rest of the Debian family too, it seems.
17:14 Enke            Goody!
17:15 sapier          Merry Christmas to all!
17:17 sapier          thexyz I don't want you to meet "my standards" (which are quite relaxed to standards set e.g. for linux kernel, samba wine ...) I just want there to be defined standards different from "none"
17:17 us_0gb          When is Christmas, anyway? I forget.
17:17 thexyz          then don't complain
17:18 sapier          oops wrong channel ;-)
17:18 sapier          christmas depends on timezone and nationality in germany it's usually 24th of december right after church
17:21 * us_0gb        next asks about New Year's Day, which he hears is coming up
17:21 thexyz          i googled christmas and got a nice animation
17:23 thexyz          there honestly has to be a service which provides simple countdowns to any specified date
17:23 thexyz          as simple as http://time.is
17:27 Enke            Huh. apperantly my clock is 4.6 seconds fast.
17:27 jin_xi          Enke: i start a game now on nao
17:27 Enke            Okay.
17:28 Enke            I'll continue my old one, is that okay?
17:28 jin_xi          sure
17:28 Enke            Okay, I'm on. Username:EnkeNethack
17:31 Enke            I'm watching yours.
17:49 jin_xi          well fuck
17:50 Enke            Yeah, that stinks.
17:50 jin_xi          well, next try
17:54 thexyz          I didn't know about this http://yuenhoe.com/blog/category/anime/hana-no-android-gakuen/
18:01 zsoltisawesome  hey alll
18:06 JamesTait       Have a wonderful Christmas and New Year, everyone!
18:11 markveidemanis  Merry christmas and new year!!!
18:24 proller         83 ipv6 only players!
18:31 MinetestBot     GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Use sleep_ms instead of select in httpfetch when max_fd == -1, fixes WSAEINVAL 3aa28bc7a2 2013-12-24T10:28:09-08:00 http://git.io/G1gybA
18:46 zsoltisawesome  i getting an error when i try to run MT
18:46 zsoltisawesome  "minetest: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libk5crypto.so.3: cannot read file data: Input/output error"
18:47 zsoltisawesome  anyone know what could have caused this?
18:48 thexyz          reboot
18:48 Edelwin         'k
18:48 zsoltisawesome  ok
18:54 zsoltisawesome  ok it works now, thanks
18:56 zsoltisawesome  online mod repository button causes me to go the credits page with no tabs...
19:01 kaeza           https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/100008207/rc_car.jpg
19:07 OWNSyouAll      zsoltisawesome, press esc to get out of that
19:07 MinetestBot     GIT: Uberi commited to Uberi/MineTest-WorldEdit: Mark the region with an entity cube. https://gi 2013-12-24T11:07:42-08:00 http://git.io/tR1Fsw
19:13 Sokomine        hm. minetest/src/sha1.cpp:149: void SHA1::addBytes(const char*, int): Zusicherung »num > 0« nicht erfüllt
19:13 Sokomine        any clues as to what might be up there?
19:14 thexyz          your message isn't in english
19:17 cisoun          Happy minetestmas everyone.
19:18 Sokomine        to you as well
19:19 iqualfragile_   is there some way to delete a mapblock entirely so it gets regenerated in worldedit and or minetest
19:19 cisoun          Sokomine: thanks !
19:22 Lynxx           hello happy holidays :3
19:31 zsoltisawesome  we should have a URI
19:32 Lynxx           what's up?
19:32 Lynxx           that*
19:32 Lynxx           ....still tired XD
19:33 zsoltisawesome  like mt://<SERVERNAME>:[PORT]/[USERNAME].[PASSWORD]
19:33 zsoltisawesome  *server address
19:33 zsoltisawesome  it would be cool
19:41 kaeza           https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=8097
20:24 zsoltisawesome  um
20:24 Jordach         mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
20:25 zsoltisawesome  well, kaeza's mod isn't  working
20:26 kaeza           "mod not work pls fix"
20:26 kaeza           anything to add?
20:27 zsoltisawesome  i got screenshots
20:27 zsoltisawesome  https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/lmddyl25ToWhQ7FrGtYf https://www.filepicker.io/api/file/KQtoPmvZSPSAmJTLrhEb
20:28 kaeza           well, did you install the mod correctly (and enabled it in world config)?
20:29 zsoltisawesome  well, shit
20:31 kaeza           I'll take that as a "no"
20:31 Exio4           don't worry baby ~
20:31 * Exio4         eats some sandwiches
20:32 Exio4           kaeza: vos que haces? o es el year nuevo en tu family?
20:33 zsoltisawesome  lol
20:33 Exio4           voseo*spanish + english
20:35 zsoltisawesome  kaeza: is there a way from the car to have like headlights?
20:38 kaeza           zsoltisawesome, yes, make them :P
20:38 Miner_48er      zsoltiawesome code from the flashlight from technic? lags alot
20:38 kaeza           I coded this in like half an hour (excluding the model)
20:38 zsoltisawesome  lol
20:38 kaeza           :P
20:39 zsoltisawesome  you know those super realistic car models?
20:40 kaeza           yes, but it doesn't really fit into minetest's ambient
20:40 phantombeta     Hi
20:41 zsoltisawesome  ya
20:41 phantombeta     How's it going?
20:41 zsoltisawesome  ok
20:41 phantombeta     That's good
20:58 Lynxx           hmm i was wondering is there a screen shot of the new horizon+fog thing that the dev/devs are working on?
21:05 Lynxx           really?
21:07 Lynxx           found the topic
21:15 raffahacks      Merry Christmas in advance ;)
21:16 raffahacks      Where can I post the Minetest classic binary for Linux? Compiled it
21:16 raffahacks      Maybe someone doesn't want to compile it
21:17 raffahacks      Where
21:17 raffahacks      Thanks
21:19 Exio4           are there any mods that use minetest.item_eat
21:19 Exio4           i mean
21:20 Exio4           outside the on_use = minetest.item_eat(1234)
21:23 Lynxx           i think the food mod?
21:23 Lynxx           but i think that mod is outdated dunno
21:26 raffahacks      Megaf?
21:26 raffahacks      Megaf: are you in?
21:31 Exio4           john_minetest: that is why i asked, https://github.com/EXio4/minetest/commit/03c56f8
21:32 Exio4           i was doing nothing in my SP world
21:32 Exio4           (creative), and then i tried to dig shit with an apple
21:32 Megaf           raffahacks, Yes?
21:34 Exio4           why would i eat if i don't even have health
21:35 Exio4           but this is a game
21:41 Exio4           ok
21:41 * Exio4         gives john_minetest a creative-friendly apple
21:41 * john_minetest tries to eat it but fails :(
21:41 Exio4           aww
21:43 Exio4           i don't know
21:43 Exio4           i don't actually play minetest
21:44 Exio4           i just play it randomly and get bored after 25-35 seconds of playing
21:44 Exio4           i'm a survival guy where you have 150 mobs outside and you're with a dirt house trying to save yourself for one night
21:45 Exio4           and knowing when you are out there will be still some mobs around, even if most of them died at night
21:45 Exio4           or if you have some basic gear, get out and try to fight them
21:45 Exio4           with the low reserves of food you had
21:46 Lynxx           sounds like an adventure
21:46 Exio4           i don't really like creative, and a decent survival is too laggy atm :(
21:48 Exio4           after that startup stage where all the resources are hard-as-fuck to get and where you actually know how to manage yourself in game and how to fight the mobs properly and so on, i like playing in a community
21:48 Exio4           before, not that much
21:50 Exio4           also, nothing like being able to build a insane build with resources that you manually got somehow!
21:57 prestotron55    [deleted]
21:58 proller         NOOOOOOO
21:58 prestotron55    [deleted]
21:59 prestotron55    [deleted]
22:03 prestotron55    [deleted]
22:07 proller         win.
22:14 Megaf           How do I enable snowfall in my server?
22:19 Niffy           Hi.
22:20 Niffy           {\rtf1\
22:21 Niffy           Jordach: putting Crevis on forums and redeveloping in a new coding language
22:21 Niffy           w
22:22 Niffy           Making a new game atm, just was looking up Preston's '54000 views per day' website which didn't even exist, found some irc logs on google
22:22 Niffy           Just clearing a few things up
22:26 proller         Niffy, you == prestotron55 ?
22:29 sfan5           proller: no
22:29 sfan5           probably 'Niften'
22:30 proller         brothers?
22:30 hmmmm           hey sfan5, so about your tab playerlist
22:30 sfan5           yeah?
22:30 hmmmm           why did you decide to hardcode an irrlicht listbox for no formspec
22:31 hmmmm           why didn't you make a formspec with a listbox as the default formspec that gets overwritten?
22:31 sfan5           dunno... I didn't have the idea to do it that way when I coded it
22:32 hmmmm           would you be able to write a formspec for that?
22:35 sfan5           hmmmm: yes
22:35 sfan5           Jordach: http://i.imgur.com/lkDhENv.jpg
22:36 blubblubb       naww
23:31 MinetestBot     GIT: kahrl commited to minetest/minetest: Make SHA1::addBytes(..., 0) a no-op instead of an assertion failure bf9f50bc0e 2013-12-24T15:29:00-08:00 http://git.io/aOKapQ