Time |
Nick |
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00:00 |
VanessaE |
surely default grass/leaves/etc instead of the seasons-specific ones |
00:01 |
VanessaE |
you'd have to write a small mod whose only job is to alias them back to something more appropriate |
00:02 |
PilzAdam |
which one, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2314 or https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=666 ? |
00:12 |
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00:13 |
aldobr |
hi all |
00:13 |
VanessaE |
hi |
00:15 |
aldobr |
i need help from a python programmer with more patience than me |
00:32 |
NekoGloop |
Was gonna say pilz but then I read the last part |
00:32 |
PilzAdam |
you are right, I dont know python |
00:33 |
NekoGloop |
I thought you coded your map mod |
00:33 |
PilzAdam |
yes? |
00:34 |
NekoGloop |
aaaand that has python aspects? |
00:34 |
PilzAdam |
thats minetestmapper.py |
00:34 |
Megaf |
PilzAdam, Im not sure, the one from here https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods |
00:35 |
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00:36 |
Megaf |
so, the second one |
00:36 |
aldobr |
my plugin is done, but i cant figure out minetest and sproxel coordinate systems |
00:36 |
aldobr |
everytime i try, i get mad |
00:36 |
PilzAdam |
Megaf, what VanessaE said should work |
00:41 |
Megaf |
ok, thanks |
00:42 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
00:47 |
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01:00 |
dafull97 |
Hey guys |
01:19 |
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01:29 |
zat |
is there a list of, or can someone name a few, mods that are known to be cpu intensive. |
01:31 |
paramat |
all of mine haha |
01:32 |
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01:32 |
Peacock |
greetings little people |
01:32 |
Peacock |
:P |
01:33 |
Peacock |
happy Battle of Agincourt day |
01:37 |
thegamilyfrog66 |
October 5, 1991 – The first official version of the Linux kernel, version 0.02, is released. |
01:45 |
Megaf |
folks, is there any good crafting guide mod that doesn't require any dependencies? |
02:09 |
VanessaE |
night all. |
02:09 |
thegamilyfrog66 |
Get to bed! |
02:24 |
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02:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
02:25 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have made it on to irc wooooooooooo hoooooooooooo |
02:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
well hi |
02:26 |
stormchaser3000 |
is anyone on this irc chanel |
02:28 |
stormchaser3000 |
woah |
02:30 |
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02:30 |
ShadowNinja |
stormchaser3000: Only about 100. |
02:31 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
02:31 |
stormchaser3000 |
ih shadow ninja i am ndjdjksisksk =/ nd |
02:31 |
ShadowNinja |
stormchaser3000: But they aren't all always active. |
02:31 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol i know |
02:31 |
ShadowNinja |
Oh, ok. |
02:31 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol oops i meant/ nd |
02:31 |
ShadowNinja |
Why the nick change? |
02:32 |
stormchaser3000 |
it is easier to use this nick becaseu people can read it lol |
02:32 |
stormchaser3000 |
unlike ndjdjksisskk |
02:32 |
stormchaser3000 |
brb |
02:32 |
stormchaser3000 |
my mom is home |
02:33 |
stormchaser3000 |
oh and i have a skin i want you to put on for me on your server check the forums in a sec |
02:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am back |
02:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
shadow are you on |
02:36 |
stormchaser3000 |
shadow ninja? |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
are you there |
02:37 |
UniversalBuilder |
storm chaser |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
hi |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am ndjdjksisksk |
02:37 |
UniversalBuilder |
are you ndndj> |
02:37 |
UniversalBuilder |
t? |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
sa i said above |
02:37 |
UniversalBuilder |
what dos your house look like? |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
my house on landrush? |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
not much different |
02:37 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
02:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
i never got wood |
02:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
but i was going to |
02:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
:( |
02:38 |
UniversalBuilder |
what is it mad eout of? |
02:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
? |
02:38 |
UniversalBuilder |
ok, just tsting you |
02:38 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
02:38 |
UniversalBuilder |
thought u were an imposter |
02:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
02:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am no an imposter |
02:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
i am the guy that helped you out when you first came on the server |
02:39 |
stormchaser3000 |
lol |
02:39 |
UniversalBuilder |
Yep :-) |
02:40 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok see you on that serrver |
02:44 |
ShadowNinja |
stormchaser3000: Use my full nick with no spaces to get my attention. |
02:44 |
stormchaser3000 |
ok |
02:45 |
stormchaser3000 |
i have a skin for you to put on your server |
02:45 |
stormchaser3000 |
i will post it in a while |
02:46 |
ShadowNinja |
Ok, fine. |
02:47 |
stormchaser3000 |
fine what? |
02:48 |
ShadowNinja |
Fine, I will add it later. |
02:58 |
NekoGloop |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gs-lZoenx4 |
03:13 |
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03:21 |
paramat |
paragenv7 now has its own thread, some new screenshots https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7366 |
03:22 |
NekoGloop |
Woah. |
03:23 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, wait, paramat. That's nothing :P |
03:23 |
paramat |
heh :) |
03:24 |
NekoGloop |
Needs moar several thousand block tall structures |
03:24 |
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03:27 |
paramat |
lol |
03:29 |
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03:30 |
NekoGloop |
Meanwhile I need to actually accomplish something with glooptest. |
03:30 |
NekoGloop |
but fuck that |
03:31 |
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03:39 |
zsoltisawesome |
Hi all |
03:42 |
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03:44 |
zsoltisawesome |
Irc is just flat dead atm |
03:47 |
NekoGloop |
It's because we're boring as fuck |
03:48 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
03:48 |
zsoltisawesome |
What's glooptest |
03:49 |
NekoGloop |
my mod |
03:49 |
zsoltisawesome |
What's it do? |
03:49 |
NekoGloop |
https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest |
03:49 |
NekoGloop |
adds ores and a couple new tools |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
and a fancy table |
03:50 |
zsoltisawesome |
Cool |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
and treasure chests |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
Which according to PilzFucktard, cause the worldgen to lag |
03:50 |
NekoGloop |
I honestly don't get that on my machine |
03:50 |
zsoltisawesome |
Lol |
03:54 |
Megaf |
I have no idea how to use this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7002 |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
eeek |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
wierd textures |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
that look like shit next to everything else in the fucking game |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
burn it |
03:55 |
NekoGloop |
BURN THE WITCH |
03:58 |
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03:58 |
hoodedice |
So... |
04:00 |
NekoGloop |
so your cloak failed |
04:02 |
us_0gb |
THat is amusing. |
04:05 |
hoodedice |
mine? |
04:06 |
hoodedice |
Is that because of realname? |
04:11 |
us_0gb |
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04:11 |
us_0gb |
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04:11 |
us_0gb |
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04:11 |
us_0gb |
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04:11 |
us_0gb |
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04:11 |
us_0gb |
Your IP address, not your name. |
04:16 |
paramat |
Peacock hi, i can make a custom paragen luvmanipulator as simple as is necessary to reduce your server lag :} how about 2 biomes, but which materials and ores? |
04:19 |
hoodedice |
Wow. |
04:19 |
hoodedice |
And you *HAD* to leak it in IRC |
04:20 |
hoodedice |
Wait. THAT IP address is the cloak |
04:20 |
hoodedice |
gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.99.132.190 is now your hidden host (set by syn.) |
04:22 |
us_0gb |
So that's not your IP address then? |
04:22 |
hoodedice |
I saw your gen just now paramat |
04:22 |
hoodedice |
No, it's not |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
Nice work on that paramat |
04:23 |
us_0gb |
hoodedice, also, YOU leaked that, not me. Everyone else saw it except you until I reposted. |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
lol? |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
lol |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
? |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
w/e |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
nevermind |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6ItxioUco |
04:23 |
hoodedice |
Enjoy |
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04:29 |
paramat |
thanks h |
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04:33 |
hoodedice |
.. |
04:34 |
us|0gb |
Sorry, technical difficulties. |
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04:56 |
reacktor |
o/ |
04:56 |
reacktor |
By the way, whoever advised me to try FreeBSD, thank you. |
04:56 |
us|0gb |
Hello! |
04:56 |
us|0gb |
So it's working well for you? |
04:56 |
reacktor |
Yep. Not much different from Net-. |
04:57 |
us|0gb |
WHat is Net-? |
04:57 |
reacktor |
NetBSD. |
04:57 |
us|0gb |
Ah. I never got a working BSD system up myself. |
04:57 |
reacktor |
I thought there wre more differences. |
04:57 |
reacktor |
us|0gb: uh? Any BSD is usually working out of the box. The base system is. |
04:59 |
us|0gb |
FreeBSD had no desktop, you had to install that yourself, and PC-BSD wouldn't even install. |
04:59 |
us|0gb |
No worries though. |
04:59 |
reacktor |
Desktop is installed from ports/packages. |
05:00 |
us|0gb |
Yeah, but before even learning the commands, you have to jump right in and use commands? That's not for me. I understand there are advantages for some use cases, but not my use case. |
05:00 |
reacktor |
If they had desktop in the base, the OS would be called Debian. |
05:02 |
reacktor |
And would be as inflexible. |
05:02 |
us|0gb |
Inflexible in what way? |
05:02 |
reacktor |
You would have to deinstall a shitload of bloat packages to get the OS slim. |
05:02 |
reacktor |
Because you never know what the end user wants. |
05:03 |
us|0gb |
True enough. Like I said, I understand some use cases are better off with no desktop. |
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05:03 |
reacktor |
What desktop is suitable for a housewife is not by far suitable for a scientist. |
05:03 |
us|0gb |
Though no desktop at all is less friendly to newcomers. |
05:03 |
us|0gb |
Not that everyone is a newcomer. |
05:03 |
reacktor |
It's not. Newcomers should first reac the manual eh. |
05:03 |
reacktor |
s/reac/read/ |
05:04 |
reacktor |
That's why proper documentation is good to have. |
05:05 |
us|0gb |
I learn by doing. While I do read manuals when I want to learn, I first try something out. |
05:05 |
reacktor |
In fact, installing desktop is done in two easy steps: compiling X and compiling the DE. |
05:05 |
us|0gb |
With no desktop, I have to learn it all right away before starting. Or a chunk of it, anyway. |
05:05 |
us|0gb |
Compiling. Ha. Asking newbies to compile. |
05:06 |
reacktor |
Meh. Trying before understanding is a sure way to mess things up. |
05:06 |
reacktor |
And compiling is automated. |
05:06 |
us|0gb |
Messing up is part of how you learn. Or is a part of how I learn, anyway. |
05:08 |
reacktor |
The build environment will set all variables for you. You only have to type in two-three commands. The rest will be taken care of and you can do something else meanwhile. |
05:10 |
reacktor |
But why mess up if you can read first and make it smooth sailing? |
05:10 |
us|0gb |
And after you install the new system, where are you going to find these commands? You can't exactly pull up a web browser and look for them until after you've entered them. |
05:11 |
reacktor |
That's why you need to read _before_ you do it. |
05:11 |
us|0gb |
BSD is awesome. BUt it isn't for everyone. |
05:11 |
reacktor |
In fact, any OS expects users to read the manual. |
05:11 |
us|0gb |
How are you supposed to know before that you'll even need them? |
05:11 |
reacktor |
Even Debian. |
05:11 |
reacktor |
us|0gb: and that's why you especially need to read it. |
05:11 |
reacktor |
Because else you never know what happens. |
05:13 |
reacktor |
Probably the only OS that doesn't is Windows. And it's already found its niche among people who don't ever want to learn. |
05:14 |
us|0gb |
Many popular GNU/Linux distributions also run fine out of the box, but also have a graphical environment and browser to look up how to set up anything that isn't already. |
05:14 |
reacktor |
Ha. |
05:14 |
reacktor |
They do usually come with a lot of bloated programs. |
05:14 |
reacktor |
Which you have to uninstall. |
05:14 |
us|0gb |
BSD is great, but not everone wants to or has time to read manuals. |
05:14 |
reacktor |
And risk getting a unusable OS after reboot. |
05:15 |
us|0gb |
Less bloated than Windows, but yes, you end up with things you don't want. That's the trade-off. Which is why bare-bones-by-default systems are great for some people. |
05:16 |
hoodedice |
bloated? |
05:16 |
reacktor |
A friend of mine installed Ubuntu. Its GUI is so unreliable it died right after he updated it. |
05:16 |
hoodedice |
lol |
05:16 |
reacktor |
Yes. Bloated. |
05:16 |
hoodedice |
They lack many of the more useful progs |
05:16 |
us|0gb |
I think BSD is great. OpenBSD is said to be the most secure system available. I just don't want to use it myself. |
05:16 |
reacktor |
hoodedice: yes, bloated and useless |
05:16 |
hoodedice |
DEs might be. The progs are useful |
05:16 |
hoodedice |
useless? |
05:16 |
hoodedice |
*fanboys* |
05:16 |
reacktor |
Useless. |
05:17 |
reacktor |
Who wants GEANY anyway? |
05:17 |
* hoodedice |
leaves |
05:17 |
reacktor |
Or that... GNOME-MPLAYER. |
05:17 |
reacktor |
They're castrated. |
05:17 |
* us|0gb |
sees hoodedice lurking around the corner |
05:18 |
hoodedice |
*Fox: I did it !! I jumped over the dog!!! |
05:18 |
hoodedice |
(What does the fox say?) |
05:18 |
reacktor |
Fawkes? |
05:19 |
us|0gb |
Hmm. I opened the command line, but now I forgot what I wanted from it ... |
05:19 |
us|0gb |
Oh well. If it's imortant, it'll come to me. |
05:19 |
us|0gb |
*important |
05:20 |
reacktor |
Pwned. You probably have to stroll trough overcomplicated menus in order to open a terminal. That's why you forget it. |
05:20 |
hoodedice |
(Ctrl+I) |
05:20 |
hoodedice |
(In Xubuntu, bottom bar) |
05:21 |
us|0gb |
No, I forgot because I opened it about 30 minutes ago and got distracted typing on IRC. |
05:21 |
reacktor |
Oh. Even more pwned. |
05:21 |
us|0gb |
How so? |
05:22 |
us|0gb |
I try not to keep people waiting for a response. |
05:22 |
hoodedice |
Me too. |
05:24 |
reacktor |
I don't. |
05:24 |
reacktor |
That's why I prefer mail over IRC nowadays. |
05:24 |
reacktor |
-_- |
05:24 |
reacktor |
Speaking of which. Why don't Minetest have mailing lists? |
05:25 |
us|0gb |
Because too much is said to be worth wading through all that mail. |
05:25 |
hoodedice |
lol |
05:25 |
us|0gb |
I mean, look at how much has been said in the last hour. |
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05:25 |
us|0gb |
That's a lot of emails. |
05:26 |
reacktor |
True that. But that's the point. It wouldn't be said if we were writing to each other instead. |
05:26 |
reacktor |
Mail has higher SNR than IRC. |
05:26 |
us|0gb |
That would be less fun and more business-like. |
05:26 |
hoodedice |
This isn't Linux |
05:26 |
reacktor |
And IRC has nigher SNR than... say, instant messaging. |
05:26 |
hoodedice |
This is Minetest |
05:26 |
hoodedice |
It's a game |
05:26 |
hoodedice |
Not a kernel |
05:27 |
reacktor |
Still. Not everyone likes having to open a web browser to write to somewhere. |
05:27 |
* us|0gb |
gets to work building a Minetest kernel so he can build an operating system around the game |
05:27 |
reacktor |
And not everyone likes to remember yet another password. |
05:28 |
hoodedice |
(Still. Not everyone likes having to open a web browser to write to somewhere.) |
05:28 |
hoodedice |
(Open XChat) |
05:28 |
arsdragonfly |
Minetest in minetest |
05:28 |
us|0gb |
reacktor, I email through a browser and IRC through a client (assuming I can use "IRC" as a verb). So not opening a browser, for me, would mean the option that isn't email. |
05:28 |
reacktor |
Lame. |
05:29 |
us|0gb |
I tried to set up my mail client. Even with a manual, I failed. |
05:29 |
reacktor |
Most OS usually have built-in mail functionality. |
05:29 |
hoodedice |
Like Thunderbird of something |
05:29 |
hoodedice |
*or |
05:29 |
us|0gb |
I tried setting up that built-in mail functionality. I failed. |
05:29 |
reacktor |
Not IRC or web browser. They come in packages. |
05:29 |
reacktor |
I'm not talking about third-party mail clients. |
05:30 |
reacktor |
Most UNIX have perfectly working built-in mail. |
05:30 |
us|0gb |
Hmm. I think this is pre-installed third party. I don't even know where to find a system email system and I'm not convinced setting that up would be any easier. |
05:30 |
reacktor |
You just need to hook it up to your web mailbox. |
05:31 |
us|0gb |
That's the part I failed to do. |
05:31 |
us|0gb |
I couldn't get it to connect. |
05:31 |
reacktor |
Because you tried to do it with that mozilla program. |
05:31 |
us|0gb |
No, I did not. |
05:31 |
reacktor |
You need to read your OS's manual on how to set up system mail, that's it. |
05:31 |
us|0gb |
I didn't use Thunderbird. |
05:32 |
reacktor |
Oh? |
05:32 |
us|0gb |
I tried reading the manual, and still failed to set it up. |
05:32 |
reacktor |
Then there is no pleasing you! |
05:32 |
us|0gb |
I fail to see how me failing is supposed to please me. |
05:33 |
reacktor |
Error. |
05:33 |
us|0gb |
Okay ... this is the oddest thing. I opened the mail client again, and now it works without any further trying from me. |
05:34 |
us|0gb |
Well, I guess no more Gmail ads then. |
05:35 |
reacktor |
And what's the big problem with ads? You can block them anytime with proper software. |
05:35 |
us|0gb |
Why is Bing sending me emails about Football? Why should I care about Bing or football? |
05:35 |
reacktor |
Some sites are dickheads for detecting it and asking you to disable it. |
05:35 |
hoodedice |
... |
05:36 |
us|0gb |
I don't really mind ads, it was just an observation. |
05:36 |
us|0gb |
The main thing I'll avoid is the stupid Google redirects. |
05:36 |
reacktor |
Oh. |
05:36 |
reacktor |
These... "please wait until you be redirected". |
05:36 |
reacktor |
Lame. |
05:36 |
us|0gb |
Google formats my email with redirects, presumably so they can tell which links in my email I click. |
05:36 |
reacktor |
Why not just do it right away without that "please wait" thing? |
05:37 |
hoodedice |
? |
05:37 |
hoodedice |
Do they do that? Never noticed... |
05:37 |
reacktor |
Oh these. You confused me. |
05:37 |
reacktor |
us|0gb: that's called "click tracking", not redirects. |
05:37 |
us|0gb |
Actually, it does it seamlessly now without that message, unless youhave your browser set to not automatically redirect, as I do, to prevent unknown redirects. |
05:38 |
reacktor |
Google would know anyway: Firefox tells them what pages you visit. |
05:38 |
us|0gb |
It tracks the click, but also redirects to the intended target. |
05:38 |
us|0gb |
It's a 302 redirect, or something. |
05:39 |
us|0gb |
I don't are if they track me. I do care if they point the link at the incorrect page then redirect to the correct one. |
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hoodedice |
Any punks in here? |
05:51 |
reacktor |
Pukes? |
05:54 |
hoodedice |
-.- |
05:55 |
reacktor |
By the way. Where'd the FreeBSD package maintainer of Minetest go? |
05:55 |
reacktor |
The package seems outdated. |
05:56 |
us|0gb |
The Debian/*buntu/Trisquel/Mint package is also outdated. |
05:56 |
reacktor |
Yep. |
05:57 |
hoodedice |
0.4.7? |
05:58 |
us|0gb |
I think in Debian, it's at 0.4.6, the rest I think are at 0.3.1. |
05:58 |
hoodedice |
https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages |
05:58 |
hoodedice |
Gets 0.4.7 as stable |
05:59 |
us|0gb |
I meant the one in the repositories. I use the PPA one, but it isn't what I meant. |
05:59 |
reacktor |
Why not fetch the latest when building from sources? |
05:59 |
hoodedice |
repos? Which? |
05:59 |
reacktor |
0.4.7 is about a year old, isn't it? |
05:59 |
us|0gb |
No, I haven't been gone that long. |
05:59 |
reacktor |
I mean, source packages, at least here, fetch 0.4.7. |
06:00 |
us|0gb |
It was here before I left a few months ago. |
06:00 |
us|0gb |
I don't know anything about source packages. |
06:00 |
hoodedice |
0.4.7 is the last stable. |
06:00 |
hoodedice |
Git has some new features |
06:00 |
hoodedice |
(And is awesomer) |
06:02 |
reacktor |
So. Is there a reliable way to fetch the repo from some fixed tine point? |
06:02 |
reacktor |
s/tine/time/ |
06:02 |
hoodedice |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53RdNYwImYc : Cleanest live performance I've ever seen |
06:03 |
reacktor |
? |
06:03 |
hoodedice |
Most bands suck at live events |
06:04 |
hoodedice |
This is THE only live performance where the song still retains its details |
06:14 |
* hoodedice |
killed the IRC |
06:17 |
us|0gb |
reacktor, you can browse through past versions of the repo, yes. |
06:17 |
us|0gb |
You'd need the commit ID to reliably download from a particular point in time, but that can be found. |
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xiong |
I guess it's time for me to check my understanding again, VanessaE. I have a network containing a mese sorting tube with one branch marked for granite and other items; and a couple other branches "on" but free -- unmarked. My understanding was that the granite would always take the marked junction in preference to any one free. No? |
06:37 |
xiong |
When the granite goes past this junction, as it has done at least a couple dozen times now, it bangs around a lot of places where it's allowed, hits a number of spots where it's forbidden to continue, and eventually sails past the marked branch yet again. What can be the cause? |
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reacktor |
us|0gb: so why not use a certain commit ID for packages? |
06:48 |
reacktor |
Why stick to 0.4.7? |
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us|0gb |
0.4.7 is stable, but most of the commits IDs reference unstable versions. |
06:51 |
xiong |
Also, VanessaE, you said pipeworks does no look-ahead; the item decides which way to go based only on the junction, not on junctions further beyond. But then, why do I see the granite bouncing from a junction that would allow it to go straight ahead? It's as if it knows it will eventually be sent back. |
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xiong |
I'd just like to know how to tell the difference between a bug I should try to reproduce and report or my failure to set up properly, which I should avoid and correct. |
07:00 |
xiong |
Now it seems the granite has vanished altogether. |
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* GNADev|zRokh |
thinks the fox says " Microsoft Sucks " |
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xiong |
I'm starting to think two things: One, that I should never alter the settings of a pipeworks system while it contains items, or they may be lost; which argues against non-locality; and two, that any given pipe should not be made to carry items in opposing directions -- that no item should meet the same junction from more than one direction. |
07:07 |
reacktor |
GNADev|zRokh: the fox is Cpt. Obvious? |
07:07 |
GNADev|zRokh |
i think so |
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nore |
Is there any dev wiki moderator here? |
07:28 |
GNADev|zRokh |
idk... why, nore? |
07:29 |
nore |
page griefing |
07:29 |
GNADev|zRokh |
where? |
07:30 |
reacktor |
Are there glass-pane-like blocks in any mod? |
07:31 |
Calinou |
reacktor: xpanes |
07:31 |
us|0gb |
Like, flat? |
07:31 |
reacktor |
Also, is there thin wall like Minecraft "cobblestone wall"? |
07:31 |
Calinou |
no |
07:31 |
us|0gb |
YEah, I think Vanessa has something in homedecor like that as well. |
07:31 |
Calinou |
I tried making that once and failed :'( |
07:31 |
reacktor |
For the recrod, I've seen slabs appearing oriented vertically when editing with WE. |
07:31 |
reacktor |
s/rod/ord/ |
07:31 |
us|0gb |
What's hard about thin walls? |
07:32 |
reacktor |
Is that a bug or a feature? |
07:32 |
reacktor |
us|0gb: nothing. I used them for one construction. I have to resort to fence blocks for the time being. |
07:32 |
nore |
GNADev|zRokh, there: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=minetest.get_modnames&curid=41&diff=1557&oldid=59 |
07:32 |
Calinou |
you can use vertical slabs and wall stairs |
07:33 |
Calinou |
moreblocks |
07:33 |
Calinou |
not that pretty, but works |
07:34 |
GNADev|zRokh |
lol :D |
07:34 |
GNADev|zRokh |
Calinou, fix it, plz :D |
07:34 |
us|0gb |
reacktor, Calinou said Calinou tried, and failed, to make them. |
07:35 |
reacktor |
Calinou: vertical slabs are not in the middle of the block. I could try them, though. |
07:35 |
reacktor |
So, are vertical slabs in moreblocks? |
07:36 |
reacktor |
Now come I've seen them without moreblocks? |
07:36 |
reacktor |
And is it safe to use them? |
07:36 |
reacktor |
I mean, compatibility-wise. |
07:36 |
* GNADev|zRokh |
is going to play D-Pad Hero 2 |
07:36 |
Calinou |
they are not in the middle yes |
07:36 |
Calinou |
they still look wall-y :p |
07:37 |
Calinou |
reacktor: screwdriver can rotate the vanilla slabs/stairs I think |
07:37 |
Calinou |
moreblocks has panels, microblocks and "alternate stairs" though |
07:38 |
us|0gb |
Not the slabs, at least not in the stable version. |
07:38 |
Calinou |
oh, only the sairs |
07:38 |
Calinou |
stairs |
07:40 |
reacktor |
Calinou: oh, that's what it's for! |
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Calinou |
it rotates facedir nodes |
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CraigyDavi |
hello |
08:00 |
jin_xi |
hi CraigyDavi |
08:01 |
us|0gb |
Hello! |
08:03 |
CraigyDavi |
Anyone know what the problem is. I edited some player files to put thier inventory to empty. Now the world or server does not load. It stops at loaded mod and does not start [Action:Main] MINETEST. |
08:03 |
reacktor |
Hmm. |
08:04 |
reacktor |
Is it possible to turn off one-click block destruction? |
08:04 |
reacktor |
It conflicts with WE's //p set |
08:05 |
CraigyDavi |
Should I delete the player files and see if that helps? |
08:07 |
Calinou |
CraigyDavi: move them away |
08:12 |
CraigyDavi |
Calinou: THANK YOU! |
08:13 |
Calinou |
it works? or did I break everything? :p |
08:13 |
CraigyDavi |
It works! |
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Calinou |
^_^ |
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Dan_D |
Hello, there, I have a modding problem. When using code to add an item to a detached inventory, it seems to add it but not visually, so you can't interact with it by removing the item. |
08:34 |
Dan_D |
(I am making an auto-miner) |
08:35 |
Dan_D |
I have another idea too, but it may not work. |
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Dan_D |
What would I put after local minehead_pos = to get the coordinates of the node? |
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jin_xi |
Dan_D: pastebin your code for some context |
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Dan_D |
I have completely re-started I am afraid. The new code seems to work so far... |
09:23 |
Dan_D |
How do I get an abm to run a certain function, called mine_down |
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Dan_D |
Never mind |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
09:50 |
nore |
hi sfan5 |
09:51 |
nore |
sfan5, should we add NPCs for mg? |
09:51 |
sfan5 |
yes |
09:51 |
sfan5 |
but I am not good at texturing and not good at modelling |
09:51 |
nore |
could you help a bit for the code? |
09:52 |
sfan5 |
sure |
09:52 |
nore |
cause I have no idea of what I should do |
09:52 |
nore |
and for models, I reckon Jordach could help us... |
09:53 |
nore |
btw, are you moderator on the dev wiki? |
09:54 |
sfan5 |
no |
09:54 |
nore |
(there has been some page griefing) |
10:01 |
thexyz |
nore: fixed |
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Dan_D |
If I remember right, there is a way of defining new biomes in MGV7? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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IceCraft |
hi |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
12:01 |
VanessaE |
xiong: I don't know why it was doing that (passing-up of legit destinations) on your pipeworks install. |
12:02 |
VanessaE |
the only bug I notice, to that end, is some minor unpredictability when an item hits a T junction. |
12:02 |
VanessaE |
nore: care to comment? |
12:03 |
nore |
that? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/946 |
12:04 |
nore |
that? https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/52 |
12:04 |
nore |
sorry, I thought I had copied the link |
12:05 |
nore |
VanessaE, the mese tube bug? |
12:06 |
VanessaE |
nore: well that too, but I meant this: |
12:06 |
VanessaE |
[10-06 02:41] <xiong> I guess it's time for me to check my understanding again, VanessaE. I have a network containing a mese sorting tube with one branch marked for granite and other items; and a couple other branches "on" but free -- unmarked. My understanding was that the granite would always take the marked junction in preference to any one free. No? |
12:06 |
VanessaE |
[10-06 02:43] <xiong> When the granite goes past this junction, as it has done at least a couple dozen times now, it bangs around a lot of places where it's allowed, hits a number of spots where it's forbidden to continue, and eventually sails past the marked branch yet again. What can be the cause? |
12:07 |
nore |
got the mese bugn I don't know where it could come from (server lag?) |
12:07 |
VanessaE |
I can only assume he has a big problem with lag or his pipeworks is woefully outdated |
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12:07 |
whodeadeyes |
So... |
12:08 |
VanessaE |
so? |
12:08 |
nore |
and yes, it looks like a lot of lag (the item will finally disappear and go where t should be) |
12:09 |
VanessaE |
nore: this is why we need a proper feature to force entities to stop moving after a certain distance and heading. |
12:09 |
VanessaE |
at leas then lag will show as items not moving at all rather than items going off in weird directions' |
12:09 |
VanessaE |
client-side that is |
12:09 |
nore |
that is why we need client-side prediction code |
12:25 |
VanessaE |
(in the case of pipeworks, that distance would always be 1m) |
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VanessaE |
nore: *poke* |
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nore |
what? |
13:36 |
nore |
VanessaE, what? |
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VanessaE |
nore: [10-06 08:54] <VanessaE> if I add his mod and do something like "animated_furnace?" in pipeworks depends.txt, it should work, yes? |
13:40 |
VanessaE |
he wants to redefine default furnaces to have an animated fire texture. |
13:41 |
nore |
he should do that like it is done with pipeworks (clone the node, modify it and re-register) |
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14:35 |
hoodedice |
onpon4 !!! |
14:35 |
hoodedice |
(Not here. Damn) |
14:36 |
* NekoGloop |
puts a kitten on hoodedice's head |
14:36 |
hoodedice |
Not now ! |
14:36 |
hoodedice |
I found something shocking ! |
14:37 |
VanessaE |
? |
14:37 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113346#p113346 |
14:38 |
hoodedice |
lol at that |
14:38 |
hoodedice |
Another drama queen |
14:39 |
* VanessaE |
shrugs |
14:40 |
VanessaE |
moved to the trash. |
14:40 |
PilzAdam |
s/trash/hall of shame/ |
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NekoGloop |
WHAT THE HELL WAS IT |
14:41 |
hoodedice |
loolololololol!!!!11111one |
14:41 |
VanessaE |
neko, yet another "I'm taking my toys and going home!!!!!!!!" post |
14:41 |
hoodedice |
Yeah lol |
14:42 |
hoodedice |
So... |
14:42 |
hoodedice |
Yeah |
14:43 |
NekoGloop |
? |
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* NekoGloop |
pokes Jordach |
14:53 |
* Jordach |
has been petting kitttens today |
14:53 |
Jordach |
-t |
14:53 |
NekoGloop |
I request your "nopenopenope" image |
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15:33 |
harrison |
https://plus.google.com/107141453596010045869/posts/iYG6zBxiELX |
15:33 |
PilzAdam |
dont use google product |
15:33 |
PilzAdam |
+s |
15:34 |
harrison |
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/342876/Sir-Bob-Geldof-All-humans-will-die-before-2030 |
15:34 |
harrison |
guess what day of the week dec 31 2029 is |
15:36 |
khonkhortisan |
http://www.reactiongifs.com/nope-nope-nope-octopus/ ? |
15:36 |
PilzAdam |
monday |
15:37 |
khonkhortisan |
Some people calculate that in their heads |
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VanessaE |
hi |
16:33 |
* zat |
jumps, away from bronys, through the window. |
16:34 |
VanessaE |
? |
16:39 |
thexyz |
> stop loving what i don't |
16:40 |
PilzAdam |
distro war? |
16:41 |
thexyz |
no but your distro a shit |
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Hunterz |
what mods must have installed to show unified_inventory? i heve this mod on the server, but does not show proper gui :( |
16:57 |
Hunterz |
is this mod conflicted with inventory_plus ? |
16:57 |
VanessaE |
unified inventory should work fine by itself |
16:57 |
VanessaE |
an yes, it does |
16:57 |
Hunterz |
ok thanks |
16:57 |
fairiestoy |
Hey guys. I have a little question to server admins: How many problems do you have with lags and server freezes ( related to the lag issue ) ? |
16:58 |
Hunterz |
freezes i have sometimes |
16:59 |
Calinou |
Hunterz: server freezes? or client? |
16:59 |
PilzAdam |
fairiestoy, generally you can say the more mods with dynamic stuff you have the more lag will clients have |
17:00 |
fairiestoy |
PilzAdam: But what bothers me: The lag increases with time. it starts with lag of about 3.2 and ends up mostly with 8 to 15 when the server freezes |
17:00 |
PilzAdam |
what mods do you have installed? |
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fairiestoy |
Mesecons, technic i think are the most significant ones. And all dependencies. A protection mod, currency, moretrees |
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PilzAdam |
moretrees is to blame then, I guess |
17:02 |
PilzAdam |
it locks up the whole server during mapgen |
17:04 |
fairiestoy |
im though not sure if the moretrees generation isn't disabled atm. iirc the server admin mentioned something like that |
17:04 |
PilzAdam |
are there any complex mesecons circuits? |
17:05 |
PilzAdam |
for technic Im not sure, but IIRC there were some parts that are quite heavy |
17:05 |
PilzAdam |
VanessaE had to disable parts of it on her server |
17:06 |
fairiestoy |
okay, so its mostly a issue caused by mods? Since some members mentioned memory leaks caused by the server binary and such |
17:07 |
Peacock |
does the moretrees spawn trees on gen or place saplings? |
17:07 |
PilzAdam |
memory leaks should be fixed |
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fairiestoy |
Okay, thanks for the info |
17:09 |
Peacock |
in Soviet Russia, Olympics watch you! :P http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/06/1621209/sorm-russia-intends-to-monitor-all-communications-at-sochi-olympics |
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Peacock |
why not ask PilzAdam, he's here lol |
17:10 |
STHGOM |
hello |
17:10 |
Peacock |
howdy |
17:11 |
us`0gb |
Hello! |
17:12 |
Peacock |
how could PilzAdam forget/not know what distro he uses? *confused* lol |
17:13 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam uses Kubuntu |
17:14 |
Calinou |
xubuntu is better :> |
17:14 |
* Calinou |
gallops away |
17:14 |
Peacock |
debian is better |
17:14 |
* Peacock |
gallops away |
17:14 |
* john_minetest |
gallops away |
17:14 |
Peacock |
lol |
17:15 |
Calinou |
best pony* |
17:15 |
Peacock |
suddenly, 3 musketeers |
17:15 |
Calinou |
debian has no proprietary firmware, makes it hard to install proprietary drivers, is old, doesn't care about desktop much |
17:15 |
Calinou |
also community is quite arrogant |
17:15 |
Calinou |
their documentation is worse too, and they have less packages |
17:15 |
Peacock |
im running the proprietary drivers on my computer, you're thinking of trisquel |
17:15 |
ruskie |
slackware FTW |
17:16 |
ruskie |
since we are throwing out random distros |
17:16 |
Peacock |
what OSS community isn't arrogant to some degree? lol |
17:16 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, it's too big? |
17:16 |
nore |
<Calinou> debian has no proprietary firmware <- wrong: I use the non-free repository |
17:16 |
PilzAdam |
.... aaaaaand there is the distro war |
17:16 |
Calinou |
Peacock: they are still harder to use than in ubuntu |
17:16 |
Calinou |
nore: err, I was wrong, I mean at install |
17:16 |
Calinou |
also, to finish it: their installer is worse |
17:16 |
Calinou |
PilzAdam: heh |
17:16 |
Calinou |
we should stop, yeah |
17:16 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, your point? it lacks a network installer |
17:16 |
Peacock |
ubuntu is the easiest, but they're a pain in the ass to setup under any distro because <arrogance> |
17:16 |
Calinou |
it goes nowhere :| |
17:16 |
Calinou |
Peacock: ubuntu community is quite nice |
17:17 |
PilzAdam |
I could just mute everypony... |
17:17 |
Peacock |
you ask on any forum about problems with prop. drivers and you get a debate about nouveau and the 4 freedoms instead of help lol |
17:17 |
Calinou |
not really, if you look at the ubuntu forums this rarely happens |
17:17 |
Peacock |
ubuntu is the exception like i said, they got a wizard |
17:17 |
Calinou |
except if there is a valid reason for it (eg. fglrx on unsupported card) |
17:17 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, it needs one 2.3GB dvd iso |
17:18 |
ruskie |
and that's the whole system with all packages that are available for it |
17:19 |
Peacock |
ubuntu was my favorite distro before the unity/gnome3 fiasco, they were quite arrogant to their users about that one |
17:19 |
Peacock |
when people act like they know better than me how i should be using my computer, it reminds me too much of why i quit windows lol |
17:20 |
us`0gb |
Peacock, Trisquel, gNewSense, Debian, and Mint all have installation wizards as well. |
17:20 |
Calinou |
you should partition manually, ideally |
17:20 |
Peacock |
talking about prop. driver wizards :P |
17:20 |
Peacock |
which i doubt trisquel has |
17:20 |
us`0gb |
Oh, my bad then. |
17:20 |
us`0gb |
I thought you were talking about something else. |
17:21 |
Peacock |
which on *buntu, was also handy for uppidy wifi cards |
17:21 |
Peacock |
(broadcom on laptops/netbooks ex) |
17:22 |
Calinou |
it hides it by default, I don't agree with their choices here |
17:23 |
Peacock |
*buntu too simple, arch too complicated lol |
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17:23 |
Calinou |
heh |
17:23 |
Peacock |
debian is halfway but the repos are old and devs somewhat arrogant |
17:23 |
ruskie |
nothing wrong with old |
17:24 |
Peacock |
my kingdom for a distro that doesn't come from an asylum lol |
17:24 |
ruskie |
and it's not that old |
17:24 |
Calinou |
old is less secure, and has less features, and upstream yells at you |
17:24 |
Calinou |
testing is better in that regard but I heard it wasn't that stable these days |
17:24 |
Calinou |
(except during a freeze) |
17:24 |
Peacock |
when does upstream not yell? never had a chat with Torvalds i see :P |
17:24 |
ruskie |
it's generally more stable, if it has what one needs not a prob, and I yawn at upstream |
17:24 |
PilzAdam |
if old isnt bad, why do we keep coding then? |
17:25 |
Calinou |
more recent software gets fixes quicker usually |
17:25 |
ruskie |
I love how there are people going "I'll stop using this because nobody is doing much to it anymore" ever heard of mature codebase that doesn't need a ton of fixing anymore... |
17:26 |
Jordach |
owowowowowowowow |
17:26 |
Peacock |
well MT isn't old but it's got barrels of unresolved bugs right now so not sure it's the best example |
17:26 |
Calinou |
git has a lot of bugfixes |
17:26 |
Calinou |
ruskie: I didn't say that :) |
17:27 |
ruskie |
Calinou, just general observation |
17:27 |
PilzAdam |
Minetest 0.3.1 runs quite stable and doesnt need much fixing |
17:27 |
Calinou |
but it lacks a ton of features |
17:27 |
PilzAdam |
but as you can see in the step to 0.4, there is always room for new features |
17:27 |
us`0gb |
I agree. I like 0.4.* better, but 0.3.1 seems to be in need of much less fixing. |
17:27 |
ruskie |
one thing is always insisting on the latest... another thing is reasonable upgrade cycles |
17:28 |
Peacock |
calinou dunno about that lol |
17:28 |
ruskie |
and yeah debian has failed those reasonable upgrade cycles in the past |
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17:28 |
PilzAdam |
if you write 1 line of code, then it can be an "established codebase that doesnt need fixing", but it lacks features |
17:28 |
PilzAdam |
and features can only be done by constant development, because you can always add more features |
17:29 |
* Jordach |
wonders if a one liner minetest mod can be done |
17:29 |
us`0gb |
It can. |
17:29 |
PilzAdam |
of course, Lua is able to do that |
17:29 |
us`0gb |
I've done it for simple things in the past. |
17:29 |
PilzAdam |
just s/\n/;/g |
17:30 |
Peacock |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?labels=bug&page=1&state=open <- last closed issue says a month ago, so i'd get the same bugs i have now from latest git |
17:30 |
Calinou |
I like rolling release personally |
17:30 |
ruskie |
I don't |
17:31 |
ruskie |
but then I'm with slackware because of that |
17:31 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, we fix a lot of bugs that dont have issues on github |
17:31 |
ruskie |
I like a stable system I don't need to maintain on a daily bassis |
17:32 |
us`0gb |
Lack of need for constant maintenance is good. |
17:32 |
ruskie |
as a sysadmin it's something you come to appreciate |
17:33 |
us`0gb |
As a standard desktop use, I appreciate it as well, though likely to a lesser degree. |
17:33 |
us`0gb |
*user |
17:33 |
ruskie |
I want the core of the system to be rock solid |
17:33 |
ruskie |
but stuff I run on top I can go with bleeding edge if it has something I might want |
17:33 |
ruskie |
which frankly... hasn't been in a while |
17:34 |
us`0gb |
Yeah. Aside from Minetest, I use fairly stable software. |
17:34 |
Peacock |
not finding a ton of bugfixes in closed pulls except msvc compiling (20 days ago) |
17:35 |
us`0gb |
I saw a bug fix yesterday. A small one, but a bug fix none the less. |
17:35 |
us`0gb |
Or maybe it was two days ago. I forget. |
17:35 |
Peacock |
newest closed pull says 5 days :/ |
17:35 |
Peacock |
and its a change in indexing for get_connected_players |
17:36 |
us`0gb |
0gb.us authored 12 days ago|kahrl committed a day ago |
17:36 |
Peacock |
minetest or minetest_game? im looking only at the engine |
17:36 |
us`0gb |
I'm looking at the engine as well. I don't bother with minetest_game any more. |
17:37 |
Peacock |
ah i had the bug label on |
17:37 |
Jordach |
Minetest is slowly stagnating; no actual useful pulls are merged, minetest_game appears the same as it was 10 years ago |
17:37 |
Peacock |
still get_connected_players is the latest closed pull |
17:37 |
Peacock |
maybe my cache is fucked up if youre getting different results lol |
17:37 |
us`0gb |
Maybe. |
17:38 |
Jordach |
Hint: Minetest is not a tech demo, stop preserving it as one |
17:38 |
Peacock |
preserving? |
17:39 |
us`0gb |
"But ... It has 'test' int the name! It must only be a test/demo, Jordach!" |
17:39 |
us`0gb |
Sorry, I couldn't help it. |
17:39 |
us`0gb |
*in |
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17:40 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, yes I'm aware of that |
17:40 |
Jordach |
Peacock, the core devs keep it the same, with no difference of minetest_game content between games (and i mean gameplay wise) |
17:40 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, I've been using slack 1998-2004 then sourcmage and last year switched back to slackware |
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17:41 |
Dan_D |
What is the problem with this? |
17:41 |
Dan_D |
http://pastebin.com/JAHYJgTk |
17:41 |
Peacock |
well minetest_game isn't what needs bugfixes or features :P |
17:41 |
us`0gb |
Minetest_game probably IS a demo though. I haven't found anyone who seems to think otherwise, besides me from months ago. |
17:41 |
Peacock |
thats up to others to make pulls towards |
17:42 |
Dan_D |
There is no error, it just doesn't do anything. |
17:42 |
Dan_D |
!title |
17:42 |
MinetestBot |
Dan_D: [Lua] function remove_leaves (pos,oldnode) local node1 = minetest.get_node({x - Pastebin.com |
17:44 |
Dan_D |
Never mind. |
17:49 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, it has no dependency resolution... you have what comes with it pkgtools and then a few extras like slackpkg, sbopkg(slackbuilds) and a few others if you want them |
17:50 |
ruskie |
not really |
17:51 |
Peacock |
Canada regrets buying used subs from the UK: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7835094272/hB8B307D7/ |
17:51 |
ruskie |
well slackpkg can update as well... you generally won't have any issues since it will update what you have installed |
17:52 |
Peacock |
do i look like a hipster? screw reddit lol |
17:53 |
Peacock |
not terribly crazy about reddit's format tbh |
17:54 |
Peacock |
why must websites be incredibly flash or incredibly basic? lol |
17:54 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, they use the same build configs for updates as well if that's what you mean |
17:55 |
ruskie |
or do you mean choices that would install same stuff from different ones? if so that's up to the SA to handle |
17:55 |
Calinou |
reddit isn't insanely basic |
17:55 |
Peacock |
it looks like crap lol |
17:56 |
Peacock |
im old enough to remember the early yahoo website lol |
17:56 |
Peacock |
and thats what it reminds me of |
17:56 |
Calinou |
try RES |
17:56 |
Calinou |
a browser extension, makes it better :D |
17:57 |
Peacock |
its pretty sad when you need an extension to make a site look better :P i can't do that for every poorly conceived design :P |
17:58 |
Peacock |
changing subjects, this lady proves that being obese doesn't mean being lazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs_9s31Je7Y |
17:58 |
ruskie |
john_minetest, start with slackware.com and ##slackware for that I guess |
17:59 |
Peacock |
john flamewars are as old as the internet :P |
17:59 |
Calinou |
except that reddit has pron |
17:59 |
Calinou |
and bronies |
17:59 |
* Calinou |
gallops away |
18:00 |
ruskie |
reddit is the now usenet |
18:00 |
ruskie |
s/now/new/ |
18:00 |
Peacock |
well then, when the revolution comes we'll use the reddit userlist to know who to round up lol |
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18:02 |
Exio4 |
:( |
18:03 |
HeisenbergCZE |
hi. i need some advice. i am trying to add the technic mod to minetest (added all the dependencies for sure) but still i get an error: ~/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/config.lua:4: attempt to call global 'settings' (a nil value) |
18:03 |
HeisenbergCZE |
which i cannot solve :( does anyone know? thanks |
18:03 |
Peacock |
you still missing something |
18:03 |
us`0gb |
That means you're using the dev version of Technic. |
18:04 |
Exio4 |
https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/commit/b7ed2e412454abb361536271a6b3b41615fa22c8 |
18:04 |
HeisenbergCZE |
i will take a look |
18:04 |
* Exio4 |
cries |
18:04 |
us`0gb |
HeisenbergCZE, try using the stable branch of Technic. |
18:05 |
HeisenbergCZE |
Exio4, us`0gb thanks, it works now! :) |
18:05 |
us`0gb |
Great! |
18:06 |
Exio4 |
wut |
18:06 |
Exio4 |
it was us`0gb, not me |
18:06 |
Exio4 |
i'm here crying |
18:06 |
HeisenbergCZE |
i have to read better for future |
18:06 |
us`0gb |
Why are you crying? |
18:08 |
Exio4 |
joke :P |
18:08 |
Exio4 |
the code doesn't work and i don't know why |
18:08 |
thexyz |
john_minetest: it doesn't matter which distro he uses |
18:08 |
us`0gb |
Hmm. That happens to me all the time. |
18:12 |
Exio4 |
ha |
18:13 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, Hi! |
18:13 |
OldCoder |
john_minetest, when done here, wish to help port Zegaton? |
18:13 |
Exio4 |
john_minetest: https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/commit/2a5ceabe0a8c14c7b75603908efb2468e83d611f |
18:16 |
Exio4 |
the commit i posted is the actual fix that i made to https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/commit/b7ed2e412454abb361536271a6b3b41615fa22c8 |
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18:37 |
STHGOM |
hello |
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19:06 |
Dan_D |
Is there any docs for MgV7 biome definition api? I am sure there was somewhere... |
19:06 |
PilzAdam |
there isnt |
19:07 |
Dan_D |
Oh |
19:07 |
Dan_D |
I still thought there was an spi though |
19:08 |
Dan_D |
*api |
19:09 |
Dan_D |
I saw it in a thread somewhere |
19:12 |
Jordach |
http://imgur.com/gallery/oc8C8YK |
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19:15 |
Dan_D |
Pretty Damned Big Village: http://s7.postimg.org/6sjgycfx7/screenshot_2402315380.png |
19:16 |
NekoGloop |
What mod's that? |
19:16 |
Dan_D |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263 |
19:16 |
Dan_D |
!title |
19:16 |
MinetestBot |
Dan_D: [Mod] Experimental mapgen [mg] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums |
19:17 |
Jordach |
<Shao_Khan> I WIN http://i.imgur.com/7Akn6Z6.jpg |
19:17 |
Dan_D |
Mine has just as much, like libraries, big church, diner etc |
19:18 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, that TP is still ugly :-p |
19:20 |
Dan_D |
So is there a biome api? |
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19:23 |
Dan_D |
Hello? |
19:24 |
Miner_48er |
hi |
19:24 |
Dan_D |
Is there a biome api? |
19:25 |
Calinou |
on mgv7, yes? (IIRC) |
19:25 |
Dan_D |
YES!! |
19:30 |
Dan_D |
What is the api? |
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19:38 |
Niften |
hi |
19:38 |
us`0gb |
Hello! |
19:38 |
Niften |
Hey 0bg |
19:38 |
STHGOM |
hello |
19:39 |
Niften |
0bg PM me, i have something tot ell you |
19:46 |
Niften |
PilzAdam: I have a confession, i blamed prestortron55 for the mod use, and I don't intend on him getting hated on. |
19:52 |
Niften |
pilzadam your a bitch |
19:52 |
Niften |
fuck you |
19:53 |
STHGOM |
? |
19:53 |
PilzAdam |
!kick Niften insulting |
19:53 |
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Niften was kicked by MinetestBot: insulting |
19:54 |
Calinou |
"tot" |
19:54 |
Calinou |
I read "hot" initially... |
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19:54 |
Niften |
no |
19:54 |
Niften |
its not insulting |
19:54 |
PilzAdam |
read the rules at http://minetest.net/IRC |
19:55 |
Niften |
ok i will but did you read what i said |
19:55 |
Niften |
im gonna leave but please read that before something goes overboard |
19:56 |
PilzAdam |
heh, thats prestons IP |
19:56 |
PilzAdam |
good try |
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20:07 |
Peacock |
multiple personalities lol |
20:08 |
us`0gb |
So Niften is Preston55 then? |
20:08 |
* Peacock |
is in awe |
20:08 |
Peacock |
really |
20:08 |
Peacock |
XD |
20:09 |
us`0gb |
I'm not sure I believe that, they were arguing the other day. |
20:09 |
us`0gb |
Oops. |
20:10 |
thexyz |
those rules |
20:10 |
thexyz |
> Annoying, racism or any form of derogatory term against any user or channel operator will probably get you quieted; or even banned. |
20:10 |
Peacock |
ogb if you had two handles and though people suspected they were both the same, wouldn't you argue with yourselves? :P |
20:11 |
Peacock |
*thought |
20:11 |
thexyz |
> Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed. |
20:11 |
us`0gb |
I can;t type fast enough to manage to hold up both sides of a conversation. |
20:12 |
us`0gb |
Also, everyone recognizes my alter egos. |
20:12 |
us`0gb |
john_minetest, or cook it first. |
20:12 |
PilzAdam |
john_minetest, from penny? ;-) |
20:13 |
us`0gb |
For a time, I was RealBadAngle. That was fun. |
20:14 |
us0gb |
hello |
20:14 |
ShadowNinja |
^ Not to be confused with a spammer/flooder/whatever that used that nick. |
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20:16 |
Peacock |
free games always attract spammers and griefers lol no one pays to pull shit like that on other games |
20:16 |
us^0gb |
What the heck ... I couldn't type .... |
20:17 |
us^0gb |
Anyway, john_minetest, there's also us-0gb available. |
20:17 |
Peacock |
tell that to all the people who restrict their servers one way or another lol |
20:19 |
us^0gb |
Why does the German channel have one pound sign but the Spanish channel have two? |
20:19 |
us^0gb |
#minetest-de ##minetest-es |
20:19 |
PilzAdam |
because germans are cool |
20:19 |
us^0gb |
SO are Spaniards. |
20:19 |
us^0gb |
*So |
20:20 |
us^0gb |
Ah, so more Germans than Spaniards here then. |
20:20 |
codehero |
lol :P |
20:20 |
sfan5 |
.. |
20:20 |
sfan5 |
:P |
20:20 |
Yepoleb |
yeah, you did :D |
20:20 |
Naked |
the germans are slowly invading us |
20:20 |
codehero |
:D |
20:20 |
codehero |
me is have german |
20:20 |
Naked |
we need more spanish or latin users here |
20:21 |
codehero |
half |
20:21 |
Yepoleb |
hey, austrians speak german too |
20:21 |
chlue |
ShadowNinja: Can we bargain for other switching station recipes for the technic mod? |
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20:21 |
thexyz |
nice http://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX |
20:21 |
us^0gb |
Would a heating furnace be useful to anyone in Minetest? As in, not a cooking one? |
20:22 |
Peacock |
and yet, no Oktoberfest mod :( |
20:22 |
ShadowNinja |
chlue: I am not sure what you mean by bargain, but ou can offer alternatives. Note: Technic stuff -> #minetest-technic. |
20:22 |
PilzAdam |
Naked, even the core dev team is almost half german |
20:22 |
ShadowNinja |
you* |
20:22 |
us^0gb |
I think the engine has freezing now, though I'm not sure on that. |
20:22 |
Naked |
too many germans. some of you should move out to another country |
20:23 |
Naked |
to balance it out |
20:23 |
Peacock |
Naked where else in Europe would they go? |
20:23 |
us^0gb |
Oh, death freezing. Nah, I'm not into that. |
20:23 |
Peacock |
better off staying in Germany :P |
20:23 |
Naked |
outside of germany? |
20:23 |
thexyz |
Public Note: Why do we put people who are on drugs in jail? They're sick, they're not criminals. Sick people don't get healed in prison. You see? It makes no sense. |
20:23 |
codehero |
Naked> i moved out :P |
20:23 |
Peacock |
most other economies seem to be tanking |
20:23 |
Fabio |
hi guys! Just one question, could it be possible to convert Minetest worlds to Minecraft? |
20:24 |
PilzAdam |
Naked, only insane people move away from germany if they were there once |
20:24 |
Peacock |
cuz jail is cheaper than healthcare i guess |
20:24 |
us^0gb |
Fabio, not at the moment. |
20:24 |
PilzAdam |
Fabio, havent seen anything like that, but its possible in the other direction |
20:24 |
thexyz |
so germany best country? |
20:24 |
Fabio |
yes, that's what I've seen |
20:24 |
Fabio |
and Minetest to Blender? |
20:24 |
us^0gb |
PilzAdam, it's possible in reverse? Awesome! |
20:24 |
Peacock |
in the EU, probably yeah |
20:25 |
Fabio |
or other 3D soft? |
20:25 |
PilzAdam |
Fabio, AFAIK only in the other direction :_/ |
20:25 |
PilzAdam |
*:-/ |
20:26 |
Peacock |
except, they could use a minimum wage |
20:27 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
20:27 |
Fabio |
I want to make a contest in my town where students have to design some local buldings |
20:27 |
Fabio |
and I want to use all that material to recreate my town in a big 3D world |
20:28 |
Peacock |
get a map and use kaezas image loader to reproduce the roads and building outlines, good start |
20:28 |
Fabio |
Minetest is the best option as have the best performance for students netbooks |
20:28 |
Peacock |
minetest has been pretty shitty on both my netbooks :/ |
20:28 |
Peacock |
weird colourful polygons on my screen |
20:29 |
Fabio |
but I need a way to get all those worlds and extract models and merge them in a 3D world |
20:29 |
Peacock |
? |
20:30 |
Peacock |
why not have 'em work on the same map? |
20:31 |
Fabio |
because I want to make some presentations with the best models |
20:31 |
Peacock |
well the map is huge, they dont need to do it all in the same area |
20:31 |
Fabio |
and I want to import them to Blender or 3DMax |
20:31 |
Peacock |
import minetest to blender? |
20:31 |
Fabio |
yes |
20:31 |
Peacock |
there's no such tool to my knowledge |
20:32 |
Peacock |
i can do the opposite, and kaeza can can import images into minetest, thats about it |
20:32 |
Fabio |
any way to take models outside minetest? |
20:33 |
Peacock |
make models out of minetest things? |
20:35 |
Fabio |
yes, let students "model" stuff in minetest and then take chunks out of that worlds, the idea is to use minetest as a creative design tool |
20:36 |
sfan5 |
!title |
20:36 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: BGB - Einzelnorm |
20:38 |
chlue |
Fabio: I guess directly working in Blender is out of your scope then? |
20:39 |
Fabio |
yes, the idea is that students "play" with minetest while they model |
20:41 |
Fabio |
I have seen various minecraft -> minetest |
20:41 |
* sfan5 |
made two |
20:42 |
Fabio |
but I was wondering, if we can have a tool to make invert process: minetest -> minecraft |
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Fabio |
It would be possible to use all tools associated to minecraft with minetest worlds |
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Fabio |
for example, this feature to convert minecraft worlds to gmap: http://overviewer.org/wow/#/4277/64/6091/-7/0/0 |
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Fabio |
do you know of people working on this? Exporting minetest to minecraft? |
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Fabio |
john_minetest, do you know who made this? Can I have his e-mail? |
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20:56 |
Fabio |
the minecraft -> minetest import feature |
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Fabio |
I would like to try it and talk if there's a possibility to make it the other way |
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Fabio |
yes, I have sended him a message thru the forum, but if you have direct contact info, I'll appreciatte it |
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sfan5[iPod] |
hi john_minetest |
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VanessaE |
hi all |
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* VanessaE |
is back. yay. :) |
21:00 |
Fabio |
hey, I didn't know he was here ;) |
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sfan5[iPod] |
? |
21:00 |
Fabio |
thanks ;) |
21:01 |
Fabio |
hi sfan5[iPod] |
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sfan5[iPod] |
hi... |
21:02 |
Fabio |
sorry if I'm lost but I would like to test the minecraft -> minetest conversion stuff |
21:02 |
Fabio |
is it available to try it? |
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sfan5[iPod] |
sure |
21:02 |
sfan5[iPod] |
search the forum |
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Miner_48er |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007 |
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Fabio |
great ;) |
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Fabio |
and is there any chance to make the opposite? Minetest -> Minecraft conversion? |
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VanessaE |
why would anyone want to? |
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21:06 |
Fabio |
I think it would open many possibilities |
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VanessaE |
I don't think anyone here's really interested in going in that direction, but it's surely possible |
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VanessaE |
the map format is documented and uses well-known databases to store it |
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VanessaE |
at least minetest is. |
21:08 |
VanessaE |
MC is another matter. |
21:08 |
Fabio |
minecraft have a lot of tools for their worlds, and having a minetest->minecraft tool, could indirectly gave minetest the access to all that tools to tranforming worlds |
21:09 |
Fabio |
for example, MC can convert to Google Maps for navigation and being imported on Blender |
21:10 |
Peacock |
Temple Island http://s8.postimg.org/bzrout1h1/screenshot_2409247916.png |
21:10 |
Fabio |
if exists a minetest->minecraft conversion, minetest would have those tools too |
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CraigyDavi |
Anyone know what the proble could be here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202466/ |
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CraigyDavi |
*problem |
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pitriss |
Fabio: But how do you want to display block which is not in MC? Modding of MT makes that conversion much harder IMO.. But I may be wrong, I'm not dev at all.. |
21:23 |
Fabio |
pitriss not a dev too, but I think that importing resources could make it possible |
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CraigyDavi |
I have done that but now this happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202505/ |
21:27 |
Miner_48er |
delete abcdefg playerfile |
21:28 |
CraigyDavi |
done that and now it moves on to the next player in alphabetical order |
21:28 |
Miner_48er |
linux? |
21:29 |
CraigyDavi |
me? no, windows. |
21:30 |
CraigyDavi |
huh? |
21:30 |
Miner_48er |
? |
21:31 |
CraigyDavi |
thats odd when I remove all players if fine |
21:31 |
CraigyDavi |
it's |
21:32 |
Miner_48er |
likely a few corrupt files |
21:32 |
CraigyDavi |
Any way I can fix this. It just happened all of a sudden. |
21:49 |
Fabio |
thanks guys! see you later |
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zat |
https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1186346_10151728691578264_1828577160_n.jpg |
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OldCoder |
Whose inventory_plus should be used these days? |
23:00 |
* OldCoder |
is rebuilding worlds |
23:04 |
OldCoder |
Does anybody have a link to Zeg9 places mod? |
23:05 |
OldCoder |
Or to Unified Inventory? |
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paramat |
lol the crevis soap opera continues |
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OldCoder |
? |
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23:09 |
OldCoder |
And perhaps the lantern mod used in Zegaton |
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OldCoder |
No credits |
23:09 |
paramat |
today's logs at 19:46 |
23:09 |
OldCoder |
Does anybody know where the lantern mod came from? |
23:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki, Hi! |
23:09 |
Taoki |
hi :) |
23:09 |
OldCoder |
Taoki or Mircea |
23:09 |
OldCoder |
I am bring dozens of worlds |
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OldCoder |
back to life |
23:09 |
OldCoder |
Do you know much of mods? |
23:10 |
OldCoder |
People other than John and VanessaE are not commenting |
23:10 |
OldCoder |
And John must sleep now |
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OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
arsdragonfly, hi |
23:11 |
OldCoder |
Who did the lanterns mod? Anybody know? |
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OldCoder |
JesseH, Hi |
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OldCoder |
JesseHi |
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JesseH |
Hey OldCoder |
23:12 |
OldCoder |
So nobody can comment on mods? Regrettable |
23:12 |
arsdragonfly |
Hey OldCoder |
23:12 |
OldCoder |
arsdragonfly, Hey! |
23:12 |
OldCoder |
I am bringing back 20 worlds |
23:13 |
OldCoder |
and updating to latest upstream |
23:13 |
OldCoder |
But I need help with mods. Send folks to see me. |
23:13 |
* JesseH |
will assist, if he can |
23:13 |
OldCoder |
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JesseH |
OldCoder, You're going to host a server? |
23:16 |
OldCoder |
JesseH, I have hosted one for a year |
23:16 |
OldCoder |
The current one is rather powerful |
23:16 |
JesseH |
Oh, well give me the IP and ill hop on one |
23:16 |
OldCoder |
If people will help (hint) it will be good |
23:16 |
JesseH |
^_^ |
23:16 |
OldCoder |
I am occupied with updating the worlds ATM |
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OldCoder |
WTF is "Lanterns" |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
Anybody??? |
23:17 |
JesseH |
Gonna update minetest |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
k |
23:17 |
JesseH |
Lanterns? Those things that are used for light? |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
Yes |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
But where is the official link |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
For the mod that Zegaton is using? |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
And whose mod is "spawn" ?? |
23:17 |
OldCoder |
Or "pulverize all" ? |
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OldCoder |
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23:17 |
JesseH |
Are lanterns better than torches? |
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OldCoder |
I have no idea |
23:18 |
OldCoder |
Speak, people! |
23:18 |
JesseH |
People may be asleep :Pp |
23:18 |
OldCoder |
Nobody? |
23:18 |
OldCoder |
Very well |
23:18 |
* JesseH |
throws patience at OldCoder :P |
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* OldCoder |
catches and nibbles it |
23:18 |
JesseH |
Heh |
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paramat |
i cant help with your questions OC ;) |
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OldCoder |
paramat, Thank you for responding |
23:34 |
* OldCoder |
persists because he wishes people to have fun |
23:34 |
OldCoder |
Hmm |
23:34 |
paramat |
post on the forum :) |
23:40 |
OldCoder |
paramat, possibly t y; but I am contributing a very powerful server |
23:40 |
OldCoder |
If people are not able to comment here and save me time |
23:40 |
OldCoder |
I think it is reasonable to proceed more slowly |
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ShadowNinja |
OldCoder: I would recommend unified inventor. |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
ShadowBot, Inventory not Inventor |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
Link? |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
Vanessa said the same |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
But did not have the link |
23:41 |
* OldCoder |
needs the LINKS not the NAMES |
23:41 |
ShadowNinja |
https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory |
23:41 |
OldCoder |
Well thank you!! |
23:47 |
JesseH |
Can anyone help me understand why my framerate stays around 8, in game/ |
23:47 |
JesseH |
and how I can speed it up |
23:48 |
ShadowNinja |
JesseH: Minetest is very unoptimized? You have a lot of mods? You have a bad graphics card? |
23:48 |
JesseH |
I am on a shitty laptop |
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23:49 |
JesseH |
Also, how can things be more optimized? Are people working on this? |
23:49 |
JesseH |
Also, no mods |
23:49 |
JesseH |
Oh, I took all the settings off, and i am about at 25 now. |
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JesseH |
Much better, but still awkward game play. |
23:49 |
JesseH |
I am collecting a list of improvements that will need to be made to give an optimal gaming experience for someone with the minetest engine. |
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23:51 |
JesseH |
For example, it taking a second or two for blocks to appear when placed. |
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JesseH |
Might just be me, though |
23:52 |
JesseH |
So not that big of a deal i guess |
23:52 |
shurtugal |
Can someone please help me? I cannot log on to any server, says my clients version is not supported (linux)."server version is 0.4.6, server's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 13...13, clients PROTOCOL_VERSION is 3...3 |
23:53 |
shurtugal |
I used the terminal to install minetest |
23:53 |
Menche |
what version is your client? |
23:53 |
shurtugal |
How do you tell? |
23:53 |
Menche |
should be in the top-left corner |
23:53 |
shurtugal |
hold on |
23:54 |
Menche |
if you installed it from your distro's repository, i would guess that it is 0.3.something |
23:54 |
shurtugal |
0.3.1 |
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shurtugal |
How do i upgrade? |
23:54 |
Menche |
yeah, that's too old for most servers. what distro? |
23:54 |
shurtugal |
Debian |
23:54 |
shurtugal |
wheazy |
23:54 |
Menche |
the recommended way would be to compile it |
23:55 |
Menche |
there's detailed instructions in the README |
23:55 |
shurtugal |
Ill try but im still new to linux (thanks |
23:55 |
shurtugal |
gonna try that now, later (thanks) |