Time Nick Message 00:00 VanessaE surely default grass/leaves/etc instead of the seasons-specific ones 00:01 VanessaE you'd have to write a small mod whose only job is to alias them back to something more appropriate 00:02 PilzAdam which one, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=2314 or https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=666 ? 00:13 aldobr hi all 00:13 VanessaE hi 00:15 aldobr i need help from a python programmer with more patience than me 00:32 NekoGloop Was gonna say pilz but then I read the last part 00:32 PilzAdam you are right, I dont know python 00:33 NekoGloop I thought you coded your map mod 00:33 PilzAdam yes? 00:34 NekoGloop aaaand that has python aspects? 00:34 PilzAdam thats minetestmapper.py 00:34 Megaf PilzAdam, Im not sure, the one from here https://github.com/xyzz/minetest-mods 00:36 Megaf so, the second one 00:36 aldobr my plugin is done, but i cant figure out minetest and sproxel coordinate systems 00:36 aldobr everytime i try, i get mad 00:36 PilzAdam Megaf, what VanessaE said should work 00:41 Megaf ok, thanks 00:42 PilzAdam bye 01:00 dafull97 Hey guys 01:29 zat is there a list of, or can someone name a few, mods that are known to be cpu intensive. 01:31 paramat all of mine haha 01:32 Peacock greetings little people 01:32 Peacock :P 01:33 Peacock happy Battle of Agincourt day 01:37 thegamilyfrog66 October 5, 1991 – The first official version of the Linux kernel, version 0.02, is released. 01:45 Megaf folks, is there any good crafting guide mod that doesn't require any dependencies? 02:09 VanessaE night all. 02:09 thegamilyfrog66 Get to bed! 02:25 stormchaser3000 hi 02:25 stormchaser3000 i have made it on to irc wooooooooooo hoooooooooooo 02:26 stormchaser3000 well hi 02:26 stormchaser3000 is anyone on this irc chanel 02:28 stormchaser3000 woah 02:30 ShadowNinja stormchaser3000: Only about 100. 02:31 stormchaser3000 lol 02:31 stormchaser3000 ih shadow ninja i am ndjdjksisksk =/ nd 02:31 ShadowNinja stormchaser3000: But they aren't all always active. 02:31 stormchaser3000 lol i know 02:31 ShadowNinja Oh, ok. 02:31 stormchaser3000 lol oops i meant/ nd 02:31 ShadowNinja Why the nick change? 02:32 stormchaser3000 it is easier to use this nick becaseu people can read it lol 02:32 stormchaser3000 unlike ndjdjksisskk 02:32 stormchaser3000 brb 02:32 stormchaser3000 my mom is home 02:33 stormchaser3000 oh and i have a skin i want you to put on for me on your server check the forums in a sec 02:36 stormchaser3000 i am back 02:36 stormchaser3000 shadow are you on 02:36 stormchaser3000 shadow ninja? 02:37 stormchaser3000 are you there 02:37 UniversalBuilder storm chaser 02:37 stormchaser3000 hi 02:37 stormchaser3000 i am ndjdjksisksk 02:37 UniversalBuilder are you ndndj> 02:37 UniversalBuilder t? 02:37 stormchaser3000 lol 02:37 stormchaser3000 sa i said above 02:37 UniversalBuilder what dos your house look like? 02:37 stormchaser3000 my house on landrush? 02:37 stormchaser3000 not much different 02:37 stormchaser3000 lol 02:38 stormchaser3000 i never got wood 02:38 stormchaser3000 but i was going to 02:38 stormchaser3000 :( 02:38 UniversalBuilder what is it mad eout of? 02:38 stormchaser3000 ? 02:38 UniversalBuilder ok, just tsting you 02:38 stormchaser3000 lol 02:38 UniversalBuilder thought u were an imposter 02:39 stormchaser3000 lol 02:39 stormchaser3000 i am no an imposter 02:39 stormchaser3000 i am the guy that helped you out when you first came on the server 02:39 stormchaser3000 lol 02:39 UniversalBuilder Yep :-) 02:40 stormchaser3000 ok see you on that serrver 02:44 ShadowNinja stormchaser3000: Use my full nick with no spaces to get my attention. 02:44 stormchaser3000 ok 02:45 stormchaser3000 i have a skin for you to put on your server 02:45 stormchaser3000 i will post it in a while 02:46 ShadowNinja Ok, fine. 02:47 stormchaser3000 fine what? 02:48 ShadowNinja Fine, I will add it later. 02:58 NekoGloop http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gs-lZoenx4 03:21 paramat paragenv7 now has its own thread, some new screenshots https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7366 03:22 NekoGloop Woah. 03:23 NekoGloop Oh, wait, paramat. That's nothing :P 03:23 paramat heh :) 03:24 NekoGloop Needs moar several thousand block tall structures 03:27 paramat lol 03:30 NekoGloop Meanwhile I need to actually accomplish something with glooptest. 03:30 NekoGloop but fuck that 03:39 zsoltisawesome Hi all 03:44 zsoltisawesome Irc is just flat dead atm 03:47 NekoGloop It's because we're boring as fuck 03:48 zsoltisawesome Lol 03:48 zsoltisawesome What's glooptest 03:49 NekoGloop my mod 03:49 zsoltisawesome What's it do? 03:49 NekoGloop https://github.com/GloopMaster/glooptest 03:49 NekoGloop adds ores and a couple new tools 03:50 NekoGloop and a fancy table 03:50 zsoltisawesome Cool 03:50 NekoGloop and treasure chests 03:50 NekoGloop Which according to PilzFucktard, cause the worldgen to lag 03:50 NekoGloop I honestly don't get that on my machine 03:50 zsoltisawesome Lol 03:54 Megaf I have no idea how to use this https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7002 03:55 NekoGloop eeek 03:55 NekoGloop wierd textures 03:55 NekoGloop that look like shit next to everything else in the fucking game 03:55 NekoGloop burn it 03:55 NekoGloop BURN THE WITCH 03:58 hoodedice So... 04:00 NekoGloop so your cloak failed 04:02 us_0gb THat is amusing. 04:05 hoodedice mine? 04:06 hoodedice Is that because of realname? 04:11 us_0gb * hoodedice (5c6384be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.99.132.190) has joined #minetest 04:11 us_0gb * hoodedice has quit (Changing host) 04:11 us_0gb * hoodedice (5c6384be@unaffiliated/hoodedice) has joined #minetest 04:11 us_0gb * hoodedice has quit (Changing host) 04:11 us_0gb * hoodedice (5c6384be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.99.132.190) has joined #minetest 04:11 us_0gb Your IP address, not your name. 04:16 paramat Peacock hi, i can make a custom paragen luvmanipulator as simple as is necessary to reduce your server lag :} how about 2 biomes, but which materials and ores? 04:19 hoodedice Wow. 04:19 hoodedice And you *HAD* to leak it in IRC 04:20 hoodedice Wait. THAT IP address is the cloak 04:20 hoodedice gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.99.132.190 is now your hidden host (set by syn.) 04:22 us_0gb So that's not your IP address then? 04:22 hoodedice I saw your gen just now paramat 04:22 hoodedice No, it's not 04:23 hoodedice Nice work on that paramat 04:23 us_0gb hoodedice, also, YOU leaked that, not me. Everyone else saw it except you until I reposted. 04:23 hoodedice lol? 04:23 hoodedice lol 04:23 hoodedice ? 04:23 hoodedice w/e 04:23 hoodedice nevermind 04:23 hoodedice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_6ItxioUco 04:23 hoodedice Enjoy 04:29 paramat thanks h 04:33 hoodedice .. 04:34 us|0gb Sorry, technical difficulties. 04:56 reacktor o/ 04:56 reacktor By the way, whoever advised me to try FreeBSD, thank you. 04:56 us|0gb Hello! 04:56 us|0gb So it's working well for you? 04:56 reacktor Yep. Not much different from Net-. 04:57 us|0gb WHat is Net-? 04:57 reacktor NetBSD. 04:57 us|0gb Ah. I never got a working BSD system up myself. 04:57 reacktor I thought there wre more differences. 04:57 reacktor us|0gb: uh? Any BSD is usually working out of the box. The base system is. 04:59 us|0gb FreeBSD had no desktop, you had to install that yourself, and PC-BSD wouldn't even install. 04:59 us|0gb No worries though. 04:59 reacktor Desktop is installed from ports/packages. 05:00 us|0gb Yeah, but before even learning the commands, you have to jump right in and use commands? That's not for me. I understand there are advantages for some use cases, but not my use case. 05:00 reacktor If they had desktop in the base, the OS would be called Debian. 05:02 reacktor And would be as inflexible. 05:02 us|0gb Inflexible in what way? 05:02 reacktor You would have to deinstall a shitload of bloat packages to get the OS slim. 05:02 reacktor Because you never know what the end user wants. 05:03 us|0gb True enough. Like I said, I understand some use cases are better off with no desktop. 05:03 reacktor What desktop is suitable for a housewife is not by far suitable for a scientist. 05:03 us|0gb Though no desktop at all is less friendly to newcomers. 05:03 us|0gb Not that everyone is a newcomer. 05:03 reacktor It's not. Newcomers should first reac the manual eh. 05:03 reacktor s/reac/read/ 05:04 reacktor That's why proper documentation is good to have. 05:05 us|0gb I learn by doing. While I do read manuals when I want to learn, I first try something out. 05:05 reacktor In fact, installing desktop is done in two easy steps: compiling X and compiling the DE. 05:05 us|0gb With no desktop, I have to learn it all right away before starting. Or a chunk of it, anyway. 05:05 us|0gb Compiling. Ha. Asking newbies to compile. 05:06 reacktor Meh. Trying before understanding is a sure way to mess things up. 05:06 reacktor And compiling is automated. 05:06 us|0gb Messing up is part of how you learn. Or is a part of how I learn, anyway. 05:08 reacktor The build environment will set all variables for you. You only have to type in two-three commands. The rest will be taken care of and you can do something else meanwhile. 05:10 reacktor But why mess up if you can read first and make it smooth sailing? 05:10 us|0gb And after you install the new system, where are you going to find these commands? You can't exactly pull up a web browser and look for them until after you've entered them. 05:11 reacktor That's why you need to read _before_ you do it. 05:11 us|0gb BSD is awesome. BUt it isn't for everyone. 05:11 reacktor In fact, any OS expects users to read the manual. 05:11 us|0gb How are you supposed to know before that you'll even need them? 05:11 reacktor Even Debian. 05:11 reacktor us|0gb: and that's why you especially need to read it. 05:11 reacktor Because else you never know what happens. 05:13 reacktor Probably the only OS that doesn't is Windows. And it's already found its niche among people who don't ever want to learn. 05:14 us|0gb Many popular GNU/Linux distributions also run fine out of the box, but also have a graphical environment and browser to look up how to set up anything that isn't already. 05:14 reacktor Ha. 05:14 reacktor They do usually come with a lot of bloated programs. 05:14 reacktor Which you have to uninstall. 05:14 us|0gb BSD is great, but not everone wants to or has time to read manuals. 05:14 reacktor And risk getting a unusable OS after reboot. 05:15 us|0gb Less bloated than Windows, but yes, you end up with things you don't want. That's the trade-off. Which is why bare-bones-by-default systems are great for some people. 05:16 hoodedice bloated? 05:16 reacktor A friend of mine installed Ubuntu. Its GUI is so unreliable it died right after he updated it. 05:16 hoodedice lol 05:16 reacktor Yes. Bloated. 05:16 hoodedice They lack many of the more useful progs 05:16 us|0gb I think BSD is great. OpenBSD is said to be the most secure system available. I just don't want to use it myself. 05:16 reacktor hoodedice: yes, bloated and useless 05:16 hoodedice DEs might be. The progs are useful 05:16 hoodedice useless? 05:16 hoodedice *fanboys* 05:16 reacktor Useless. 05:17 reacktor Who wants GEANY anyway? 05:17 * hoodedice leaves 05:17 reacktor Or that... GNOME-MPLAYER. 05:17 reacktor They're castrated. 05:17 * us|0gb sees hoodedice lurking around the corner 05:18 hoodedice *Fox: I did it !! I jumped over the dog!!! 05:18 hoodedice (What does the fox say?) 05:18 reacktor Fawkes? 05:19 us|0gb Hmm. I opened the command line, but now I forgot what I wanted from it ... 05:19 us|0gb Oh well. If it's imortant, it'll come to me. 05:19 us|0gb *important 05:20 reacktor Pwned. You probably have to stroll trough overcomplicated menus in order to open a terminal. That's why you forget it. 05:20 hoodedice (Ctrl+I) 05:20 hoodedice (In Xubuntu, bottom bar) 05:21 us|0gb No, I forgot because I opened it about 30 minutes ago and got distracted typing on IRC. 05:21 reacktor Oh. Even more pwned. 05:21 us|0gb How so? 05:22 us|0gb I try not to keep people waiting for a response. 05:22 hoodedice Me too. 05:24 reacktor I don't. 05:24 reacktor That's why I prefer mail over IRC nowadays. 05:24 reacktor -_- 05:24 reacktor Speaking of which. Why don't Minetest have mailing lists? 05:25 us|0gb Because too much is said to be worth wading through all that mail. 05:25 hoodedice lol 05:25 us|0gb I mean, look at how much has been said in the last hour. 05:25 us|0gb That's a lot of emails. 05:26 reacktor True that. But that's the point. It wouldn't be said if we were writing to each other instead. 05:26 reacktor Mail has higher SNR than IRC. 05:26 us|0gb That would be less fun and more business-like. 05:26 hoodedice This isn't Linux 05:26 reacktor And IRC has nigher SNR than... say, instant messaging. 05:26 hoodedice This is Minetest 05:26 hoodedice It's a game 05:26 hoodedice Not a kernel 05:27 reacktor Still. Not everyone likes having to open a web browser to write to somewhere. 05:27 * us|0gb gets to work building a Minetest kernel so he can build an operating system around the game 05:27 reacktor And not everyone likes to remember yet another password. 05:28 hoodedice (Still. Not everyone likes having to open a web browser to write to somewhere.) 05:28 hoodedice (Open XChat) 05:28 arsdragonfly Minetest in minetest 05:28 us|0gb reacktor, I email through a browser and IRC through a client (assuming I can use "IRC" as a verb). So not opening a browser, for me, would mean the option that isn't email. 05:28 reacktor Lame. 05:29 us|0gb I tried to set up my mail client. Even with a manual, I failed. 05:29 reacktor Most OS usually have built-in mail functionality. 05:29 hoodedice Like Thunderbird of something 05:29 hoodedice *or 05:29 us|0gb I tried setting up that built-in mail functionality. I failed. 05:29 reacktor Not IRC or web browser. They come in packages. 05:29 reacktor I'm not talking about third-party mail clients. 05:30 reacktor Most UNIX have perfectly working built-in mail. 05:30 us|0gb Hmm. I think this is pre-installed third party. I don't even know where to find a system email system and I'm not convinced setting that up would be any easier. 05:30 reacktor You just need to hook it up to your web mailbox. 05:31 us|0gb That's the part I failed to do. 05:31 us|0gb I couldn't get it to connect. 05:31 reacktor Because you tried to do it with that mozilla program. 05:31 us|0gb No, I did not. 05:31 reacktor You need to read your OS's manual on how to set up system mail, that's it. 05:31 us|0gb I didn't use Thunderbird. 05:32 reacktor Oh? 05:32 us|0gb I tried reading the manual, and still failed to set it up. 05:32 reacktor Then there is no pleasing you! 05:32 us|0gb I fail to see how me failing is supposed to please me. 05:33 reacktor Error. 05:33 us|0gb Okay ... this is the oddest thing. I opened the mail client again, and now it works without any further trying from me. 05:34 us|0gb Well, I guess no more Gmail ads then. 05:35 reacktor And what's the big problem with ads? You can block them anytime with proper software. 05:35 us|0gb Why is Bing sending me emails about Football? Why should I care about Bing or football? 05:35 reacktor Some sites are dickheads for detecting it and asking you to disable it. 05:35 hoodedice ... 05:36 us|0gb I don't really mind ads, it was just an observation. 05:36 us|0gb The main thing I'll avoid is the stupid Google redirects. 05:36 reacktor Oh. 05:36 reacktor These... "please wait until you be redirected". 05:36 reacktor Lame. 05:36 us|0gb Google formats my email with redirects, presumably so they can tell which links in my email I click. 05:36 reacktor Why not just do it right away without that "please wait" thing? 05:37 hoodedice ? 05:37 hoodedice Do they do that? Never noticed... 05:37 reacktor Oh these. You confused me. 05:37 reacktor us|0gb: that's called "click tracking", not redirects. 05:37 us|0gb Actually, it does it seamlessly now without that message, unless youhave your browser set to not automatically redirect, as I do, to prevent unknown redirects. 05:38 reacktor Google would know anyway: Firefox tells them what pages you visit. 05:38 us|0gb It tracks the click, but also redirects to the intended target. 05:38 us|0gb It's a 302 redirect, or something. 05:39 us|0gb I don't are if they track me. I do care if they point the link at the incorrect page then redirect to the correct one. 05:47 hoodedice Any punks in here? 05:51 reacktor Pukes? 05:54 hoodedice -.- 05:55 reacktor By the way. Where'd the FreeBSD package maintainer of Minetest go? 05:55 reacktor The package seems outdated. 05:56 us|0gb The Debian/*buntu/Trisquel/Mint package is also outdated. 05:56 reacktor Yep. 05:57 hoodedice 0.4.7? 05:58 us|0gb I think in Debian, it's at 0.4.6, the rest I think are at 0.3.1. 05:58 hoodedice https://code.launchpad.net/~minetestdevs/+archive/stable/+packages 05:58 hoodedice Gets 0.4.7 as stable 05:59 us|0gb I meant the one in the repositories. I use the PPA one, but it isn't what I meant. 05:59 reacktor Why not fetch the latest when building from sources? 05:59 hoodedice repos? Which? 05:59 reacktor 0.4.7 is about a year old, isn't it? 05:59 us|0gb No, I haven't been gone that long. 05:59 reacktor I mean, source packages, at least here, fetch 0.4.7. 06:00 us|0gb It was here before I left a few months ago. 06:00 us|0gb I don't know anything about source packages. 06:00 hoodedice 0.4.7 is the last stable. 06:00 hoodedice Git has some new features 06:00 hoodedice (And is awesomer) 06:02 reacktor So. Is there a reliable way to fetch the repo from some fixed tine point? 06:02 reacktor s/tine/time/ 06:02 hoodedice http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53RdNYwImYc : Cleanest live performance I've ever seen 06:03 reacktor ? 06:03 hoodedice Most bands suck at live events 06:04 hoodedice This is THE only live performance where the song still retains its details 06:14 * hoodedice killed the IRC 06:17 us|0gb reacktor, you can browse through past versions of the repo, yes. 06:17 us|0gb You'd need the commit ID to reliably download from a particular point in time, but that can be found. 06:36 xiong I guess it's time for me to check my understanding again, VanessaE. I have a network containing a mese sorting tube with one branch marked for granite and other items; and a couple other branches "on" but free -- unmarked. My understanding was that the granite would always take the marked junction in preference to any one free. No? 06:37 xiong When the granite goes past this junction, as it has done at least a couple dozen times now, it bangs around a lot of places where it's allowed, hits a number of spots where it's forbidden to continue, and eventually sails past the marked branch yet again. What can be the cause? 06:48 reacktor us|0gb: so why not use a certain commit ID for packages? 06:48 reacktor Why stick to 0.4.7? 06:51 us|0gb 0.4.7 is stable, but most of the commits IDs reference unstable versions. 06:51 xiong Also, VanessaE, you said pipeworks does no look-ahead; the item decides which way to go based only on the junction, not on junctions further beyond. But then, why do I see the granite bouncing from a junction that would allow it to go straight ahead? It's as if it knows it will eventually be sent back. 07:00 xiong I'd just like to know how to tell the difference between a bug I should try to reproduce and report or my failure to set up properly, which I should avoid and correct. 07:00 xiong Now it seems the granite has vanished altogether. 07:05 * GNADev|zRokh thinks the fox says " Microsoft Sucks " 07:07 xiong I'm starting to think two things: One, that I should never alter the settings of a pipeworks system while it contains items, or they may be lost; which argues against non-locality; and two, that any given pipe should not be made to carry items in opposing directions -- that no item should meet the same junction from more than one direction. 07:07 reacktor GNADev|zRokh: the fox is Cpt. Obvious? 07:07 GNADev|zRokh i think so 07:22 nore Is there any dev wiki moderator here? 07:28 GNADev|zRokh idk... why, nore? 07:29 nore page griefing 07:29 GNADev|zRokh where? 07:30 reacktor Are there glass-pane-like blocks in any mod? 07:31 Calinou reacktor: xpanes 07:31 us|0gb Like, flat? 07:31 reacktor Also, is there thin wall like Minecraft "cobblestone wall"? 07:31 Calinou no 07:31 us|0gb YEah, I think Vanessa has something in homedecor like that as well. 07:31 Calinou I tried making that once and failed :'( 07:31 reacktor For the recrod, I've seen slabs appearing oriented vertically when editing with WE. 07:31 reacktor s/rod/ord/ 07:31 us|0gb What's hard about thin walls? 07:32 reacktor Is that a bug or a feature? 07:32 reacktor us|0gb: nothing. I used them for one construction. I have to resort to fence blocks for the time being. 07:32 nore GNADev|zRokh, there: http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=minetest.get_modnames&curid=41&diff=1557&oldid=59 07:32 Calinou you can use vertical slabs and wall stairs 07:33 Calinou moreblocks 07:33 Calinou not that pretty, but works 07:34 GNADev|zRokh lol :D 07:34 GNADev|zRokh Calinou, fix it, plz :D 07:34 us|0gb reacktor, Calinou said Calinou tried, and failed, to make them. 07:35 reacktor Calinou: vertical slabs are not in the middle of the block. I could try them, though. 07:35 reacktor So, are vertical slabs in moreblocks? 07:36 reacktor Now come I've seen them without moreblocks? 07:36 reacktor And is it safe to use them? 07:36 reacktor I mean, compatibility-wise. 07:36 * GNADev|zRokh is going to play D-Pad Hero 2 07:36 Calinou they are not in the middle yes 07:36 Calinou they still look wall-y :p 07:37 Calinou reacktor: screwdriver can rotate the vanilla slabs/stairs I think 07:37 Calinou moreblocks has panels, microblocks and "alternate stairs" though 07:38 us|0gb Not the slabs, at least not in the stable version. 07:38 Calinou oh, only the sairs 07:38 Calinou stairs 07:40 reacktor Calinou: oh, that's what it's for! 07:41 Calinou it rotates facedir nodes 08:00 CraigyDavi hello 08:00 jin_xi hi CraigyDavi 08:01 us|0gb Hello! 08:03 CraigyDavi Anyone know what the problem is. I edited some player files to put thier inventory to empty. Now the world or server does not load. It stops at loaded mod and does not start [Action:Main] MINETEST. 08:03 reacktor Hmm. 08:04 reacktor Is it possible to turn off one-click block destruction? 08:04 reacktor It conflicts with WE's //p set 08:05 CraigyDavi Should I delete the player files and see if that helps? 08:07 Calinou CraigyDavi: move them away 08:12 CraigyDavi Calinou: THANK YOU! 08:13 Calinou it works? or did I break everything? :p 08:13 CraigyDavi It works! 08:16 Calinou ^_^ 08:33 Dan_D Hello, there, I have a modding problem. When using code to add an item to a detached inventory, it seems to add it but not visually, so you can't interact with it by removing the item. 08:34 Dan_D (I am making an auto-miner) 08:35 Dan_D I have another idea too, but it may not work. 09:08 Dan_D What would I put after local minehead_pos = to get the coordinates of the node? 09:20 jin_xi Dan_D: pastebin your code for some context 09:22 Dan_D I have completely re-started I am afraid. The new code seems to work so far... 09:23 Dan_D How do I get an abm to run a certain function, called mine_down 09:28 Dan_D Never mind 09:49 sfan5 hi everyone 09:50 nore hi sfan5 09:51 nore sfan5, should we add NPCs for mg? 09:51 sfan5 yes 09:51 sfan5 but I am not good at texturing and not good at modelling 09:51 nore could you help a bit for the code? 09:52 sfan5 sure 09:52 nore cause I have no idea of what I should do 09:52 nore and for models, I reckon Jordach could help us... 09:53 nore btw, are you moderator on the dev wiki? 09:54 sfan5 no 09:54 nore (there has been some page griefing) 10:01 thexyz nore: fixed 10:38 Dan_D If I remember right, there is a way of defining new biomes in MGV7? 11:00 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:28 IceCraft hi 12:01 VanessaE hi all 12:01 VanessaE xiong: I don't know why it was doing that (passing-up of legit destinations) on your pipeworks install. 12:02 VanessaE the only bug I notice, to that end, is some minor unpredictability when an item hits a T junction. 12:02 VanessaE nore: care to comment? 12:03 nore that? https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/946 12:04 nore that? https://github.com/VanessaE/pipeworks/issues/52 12:04 nore sorry, I thought I had copied the link 12:05 nore VanessaE, the mese tube bug? 12:06 VanessaE nore: well that too, but I meant this: 12:06 VanessaE [10-06 02:41] I guess it's time for me to check my understanding again, VanessaE. I have a network containing a mese sorting tube with one branch marked for granite and other items; and a couple other branches "on" but free -- unmarked. My understanding was that the granite would always take the marked junction in preference to any one free. No? 12:06 VanessaE [10-06 02:43] When the granite goes past this junction, as it has done at least a couple dozen times now, it bangs around a lot of places where it's allowed, hits a number of spots where it's forbidden to continue, and eventually sails past the marked branch yet again. What can be the cause? 12:07 nore got the mese bugn I don't know where it could come from (server lag?) 12:07 VanessaE I can only assume he has a big problem with lag or his pipeworks is woefully outdated 12:07 whodeadeyes So... 12:08 VanessaE so? 12:08 nore and yes, it looks like a lot of lag (the item will finally disappear and go where t should be) 12:09 VanessaE nore: this is why we need a proper feature to force entities to stop moving after a certain distance and heading. 12:09 VanessaE at leas then lag will show as items not moving at all rather than items going off in weird directions' 12:09 VanessaE client-side that is 12:09 nore that is why we need client-side prediction code 12:25 VanessaE (in the case of pipeworks, that distance would always be 1m) 12:55 VanessaE nore: *poke* 13:36 nore what? 13:36 nore VanessaE, what? 13:40 VanessaE nore: [10-06 08:54] if I add his mod and do something like "animated_furnace?" in pipeworks depends.txt, it should work, yes? 13:40 VanessaE he wants to redefine default furnaces to have an animated fire texture. 13:41 nore he should do that like it is done with pipeworks (clone the node, modify it and re-register) 14:35 hoodedice onpon4 !!! 14:35 hoodedice (Not here. Damn) 14:36 * NekoGloop puts a kitten on hoodedice's head 14:36 hoodedice Not now ! 14:36 hoodedice I found something shocking ! 14:37 VanessaE ? 14:37 PilzAdam VanessaE, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=113346#p113346 14:38 hoodedice lol at that 14:38 hoodedice Another drama queen 14:39 * VanessaE shrugs 14:40 VanessaE moved to the trash. 14:40 PilzAdam s/trash/hall of shame/ 14:40 NekoGloop WHAT THE HELL WAS IT 14:41 hoodedice loolololololol!!!!11111one 14:41 VanessaE neko, yet another "I'm taking my toys and going home!!!!!!!!" post 14:41 hoodedice Yeah lol 14:42 hoodedice So... 14:42 hoodedice Yeah 14:43 NekoGloop ? 14:52 * NekoGloop pokes Jordach 14:53 * Jordach has been petting kitttens today 14:53 Jordach -t 14:53 NekoGloop I request your "nopenopenope" image 15:33 harrison https://plus.google.com/107141453596010045869/posts/iYG6zBxiELX 15:33 PilzAdam dont use google product 15:33 PilzAdam +s 15:34 harrison http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/342876/Sir-Bob-Geldof-All-humans-will-die-before-2030 15:34 harrison guess what day of the week dec 31 2029 is 15:36 khonkhortisan http://www.reactiongifs.com/nope-nope-nope-octopus/ ? 15:36 PilzAdam monday 15:37 khonkhortisan Some people calculate that in their heads 16:31 VanessaE hi 16:33 * zat jumps, away from bronys, through the window. 16:34 VanessaE ? 16:39 thexyz > stop loving what i don't 16:40 PilzAdam distro war? 16:41 thexyz no but your distro a shit 16:56 Hunterz what mods must have installed to show unified_inventory? i heve this mod on the server, but does not show proper gui :( 16:57 Hunterz is this mod conflicted with inventory_plus ? 16:57 VanessaE unified inventory should work fine by itself 16:57 VanessaE an yes, it does 16:57 Hunterz ok thanks 16:57 fairiestoy Hey guys. I have a little question to server admins: How many problems do you have with lags and server freezes ( related to the lag issue ) ? 16:58 Hunterz freezes i have sometimes 16:59 Calinou Hunterz: server freezes? or client? 16:59 PilzAdam fairiestoy, generally you can say the more mods with dynamic stuff you have the more lag will clients have 17:00 fairiestoy PilzAdam: But what bothers me: The lag increases with time. it starts with lag of about 3.2 and ends up mostly with 8 to 15 when the server freezes 17:00 PilzAdam what mods do you have installed? 17:01 fairiestoy Mesecons, technic i think are the most significant ones. And all dependencies. A protection mod, currency, moretrees 17:02 PilzAdam moretrees is to blame then, I guess 17:02 PilzAdam it locks up the whole server during mapgen 17:04 fairiestoy im though not sure if the moretrees generation isn't disabled atm. iirc the server admin mentioned something like that 17:04 PilzAdam are there any complex mesecons circuits? 17:05 PilzAdam for technic Im not sure, but IIRC there were some parts that are quite heavy 17:05 PilzAdam VanessaE had to disable parts of it on her server 17:06 fairiestoy okay, so its mostly a issue caused by mods? Since some members mentioned memory leaks caused by the server binary and such 17:07 Peacock does the moretrees spawn trees on gen or place saplings? 17:07 PilzAdam memory leaks should be fixed 17:08 fairiestoy Okay, thanks for the info 17:09 Peacock in Soviet Russia, Olympics watch you! :P http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/10/06/1621209/sorm-russia-intends-to-monitor-all-communications-at-sochi-olympics 17:10 Peacock why not ask PilzAdam, he's here lol 17:10 STHGOM hello 17:10 Peacock howdy 17:11 us`0gb Hello! 17:12 Peacock how could PilzAdam forget/not know what distro he uses? *confused* lol 17:13 Calinou PilzAdam uses Kubuntu 17:14 Calinou xubuntu is better :> 17:14 * Calinou gallops away 17:14 Peacock debian is better 17:14 * Peacock gallops away 17:14 * john_minetest gallops away 17:14 Peacock lol 17:15 Calinou best pony* 17:15 Peacock suddenly, 3 musketeers 17:15 Calinou debian has no proprietary firmware, makes it hard to install proprietary drivers, is old, doesn't care about desktop much 17:15 Calinou also community is quite arrogant 17:15 Calinou their documentation is worse too, and they have less packages 17:15 Peacock im running the proprietary drivers on my computer, you're thinking of trisquel 17:15 ruskie slackware FTW 17:16 ruskie since we are throwing out random distros 17:16 Peacock what OSS community isn't arrogant to some degree? lol 17:16 ruskie john_minetest, it's too big? 17:16 nore debian has no proprietary firmware <- wrong: I use the non-free repository 17:16 PilzAdam .... aaaaaand there is the distro war 17:16 Calinou Peacock: they are still harder to use than in ubuntu 17:16 Calinou nore: err, I was wrong, I mean at install 17:16 Calinou also, to finish it: their installer is worse 17:16 Calinou PilzAdam: heh 17:16 Calinou we should stop, yeah 17:16 ruskie john_minetest, your point? it lacks a network installer 17:16 Peacock ubuntu is the easiest, but they're a pain in the ass to setup under any distro because 17:16 Calinou it goes nowhere :| 17:16 Calinou Peacock: ubuntu community is quite nice 17:17 PilzAdam I could just mute everypony... 17:17 Peacock you ask on any forum about problems with prop. drivers and you get a debate about nouveau and the 4 freedoms instead of help lol 17:17 Calinou not really, if you look at the ubuntu forums this rarely happens 17:17 Peacock ubuntu is the exception like i said, they got a wizard 17:17 Calinou except if there is a valid reason for it (eg. fglrx on unsupported card) 17:17 ruskie john_minetest, it needs one 2.3GB dvd iso 17:18 ruskie and that's the whole system with all packages that are available for it 17:19 Peacock ubuntu was my favorite distro before the unity/gnome3 fiasco, they were quite arrogant to their users about that one 17:19 Peacock when people act like they know better than me how i should be using my computer, it reminds me too much of why i quit windows lol 17:20 us`0gb Peacock, Trisquel, gNewSense, Debian, and Mint all have installation wizards as well. 17:20 Calinou you should partition manually, ideally 17:20 Peacock talking about prop. driver wizards :P 17:20 Peacock which i doubt trisquel has 17:20 us`0gb Oh, my bad then. 17:20 us`0gb I thought you were talking about something else. 17:21 Peacock which on *buntu, was also handy for uppidy wifi cards 17:21 Peacock (broadcom on laptops/netbooks ex) 17:22 Calinou it hides it by default, I don't agree with their choices here 17:23 Peacock *buntu too simple, arch too complicated lol 17:23 Calinou heh 17:23 Peacock debian is halfway but the repos are old and devs somewhat arrogant 17:23 ruskie nothing wrong with old 17:24 Peacock my kingdom for a distro that doesn't come from an asylum lol 17:24 ruskie and it's not that old 17:24 Calinou old is less secure, and has less features, and upstream yells at you 17:24 Calinou testing is better in that regard but I heard it wasn't that stable these days 17:24 Calinou (except during a freeze) 17:24 Peacock when does upstream not yell? never had a chat with Torvalds i see :P 17:24 ruskie it's generally more stable, if it has what one needs not a prob, and I yawn at upstream 17:24 PilzAdam if old isnt bad, why do we keep coding then? 17:25 Calinou more recent software gets fixes quicker usually 17:25 ruskie I love how there are people going "I'll stop using this because nobody is doing much to it anymore" ever heard of mature codebase that doesn't need a ton of fixing anymore... 17:26 Jordach owowowowowowowow 17:26 Peacock well MT isn't old but it's got barrels of unresolved bugs right now so not sure it's the best example 17:26 Calinou git has a lot of bugfixes 17:26 Calinou ruskie: I didn't say that :) 17:27 ruskie Calinou, just general observation 17:27 PilzAdam Minetest 0.3.1 runs quite stable and doesnt need much fixing 17:27 Calinou but it lacks a ton of features 17:27 PilzAdam but as you can see in the step to 0.4, there is always room for new features 17:27 us`0gb I agree. I like 0.4.* better, but 0.3.1 seems to be in need of much less fixing. 17:27 ruskie one thing is always insisting on the latest... another thing is reasonable upgrade cycles 17:28 Peacock calinou dunno about that lol 17:28 ruskie and yeah debian has failed those reasonable upgrade cycles in the past 17:28 PilzAdam if you write 1 line of code, then it can be an "established codebase that doesnt need fixing", but it lacks features 17:28 PilzAdam and features can only be done by constant development, because you can always add more features 17:29 * Jordach wonders if a one liner minetest mod can be done 17:29 us`0gb It can. 17:29 PilzAdam of course, Lua is able to do that 17:29 us`0gb I've done it for simple things in the past. 17:29 PilzAdam just s/\n/;/g 17:30 Peacock https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?labels=bug&page=1&state=open <- last closed issue says a month ago, so i'd get the same bugs i have now from latest git 17:30 Calinou I like rolling release personally 17:30 ruskie I don't 17:31 ruskie but then I'm with slackware because of that 17:31 PilzAdam Peacock, we fix a lot of bugs that dont have issues on github 17:31 ruskie I like a stable system I don't need to maintain on a daily bassis 17:32 us`0gb Lack of need for constant maintenance is good. 17:32 ruskie as a sysadmin it's something you come to appreciate 17:33 us`0gb As a standard desktop use, I appreciate it as well, though likely to a lesser degree. 17:33 us`0gb *user 17:33 ruskie I want the core of the system to be rock solid 17:33 ruskie but stuff I run on top I can go with bleeding edge if it has something I might want 17:33 ruskie which frankly... hasn't been in a while 17:34 us`0gb Yeah. Aside from Minetest, I use fairly stable software. 17:34 Peacock not finding a ton of bugfixes in closed pulls except msvc compiling (20 days ago) 17:35 us`0gb I saw a bug fix yesterday. A small one, but a bug fix none the less. 17:35 us`0gb Or maybe it was two days ago. I forget. 17:35 Peacock newest closed pull says 5 days :/ 17:35 Peacock and its a change in indexing for get_connected_players 17:36 us`0gb 0gb.us authored 12 days ago|kahrl committed a day ago 17:36 Peacock minetest or minetest_game? im looking only at the engine 17:36 us`0gb I'm looking at the engine as well. I don't bother with minetest_game any more. 17:37 Peacock ah i had the bug label on 17:37 Jordach Minetest is slowly stagnating; no actual useful pulls are merged, minetest_game appears the same as it was 10 years ago 17:37 Peacock still get_connected_players is the latest closed pull 17:37 Peacock maybe my cache is fucked up if youre getting different results lol 17:37 us`0gb Maybe. 17:38 Jordach Hint: Minetest is not a tech demo, stop preserving it as one 17:38 Peacock preserving? 17:39 us`0gb "But ... It has 'test' int the name! It must only be a test/demo, Jordach!" 17:39 us`0gb Sorry, I couldn't help it. 17:39 us`0gb *in 17:40 ruskie john_minetest, yes I'm aware of that 17:40 Jordach Peacock, the core devs keep it the same, with no difference of minetest_game content between games (and i mean gameplay wise) 17:40 ruskie john_minetest, I've been using slack 1998-2004 then sourcmage and last year switched back to slackware 17:41 Dan_D What is the problem with this? 17:41 Dan_D http://pastebin.com/JAHYJgTk 17:41 Peacock well minetest_game isn't what needs bugfixes or features :P 17:41 us`0gb Minetest_game probably IS a demo though. I haven't found anyone who seems to think otherwise, besides me from months ago. 17:41 Peacock thats up to others to make pulls towards 17:42 Dan_D There is no error, it just doesn't do anything. 17:42 Dan_D !title 17:42 MinetestBot Dan_D: [Lua] function remove_leaves (pos,oldnode) local node1 = minetest.get_node({x - Pastebin.com 17:44 Dan_D Never mind. 17:49 ruskie john_minetest, it has no dependency resolution... you have what comes with it pkgtools and then a few extras like slackpkg, sbopkg(slackbuilds) and a few others if you want them 17:50 ruskie not really 17:51 Peacock Canada regrets buying used subs from the UK: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7835094272/hB8B307D7/ 17:51 ruskie well slackpkg can update as well... you generally won't have any issues since it will update what you have installed 17:52 Peacock do i look like a hipster? screw reddit lol 17:53 Peacock not terribly crazy about reddit's format tbh 17:54 Peacock why must websites be incredibly flash or incredibly basic? lol 17:54 ruskie john_minetest, they use the same build configs for updates as well if that's what you mean 17:55 ruskie or do you mean choices that would install same stuff from different ones? if so that's up to the SA to handle 17:55 Calinou reddit isn't insanely basic 17:55 Peacock it looks like crap lol 17:56 Peacock im old enough to remember the early yahoo website lol 17:56 Peacock and thats what it reminds me of 17:56 Calinou try RES 17:56 Calinou a browser extension, makes it better :D 17:57 Peacock its pretty sad when you need an extension to make a site look better :P i can't do that for every poorly conceived design :P 17:58 Peacock changing subjects, this lady proves that being obese doesn't mean being lazy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hs_9s31Je7Y 17:58 ruskie john_minetest, start with slackware.com and ##slackware for that I guess 17:59 Peacock john flamewars are as old as the internet :P 17:59 Calinou except that reddit has pron 17:59 Calinou and bronies 17:59 * Calinou gallops away 18:00 ruskie reddit is the now usenet 18:00 ruskie s/now/new/ 18:00 Peacock well then, when the revolution comes we'll use the reddit userlist to know who to round up lol 18:02 Exio4 :( 18:03 HeisenbergCZE hi. i need some advice. i am trying to add the technic mod to minetest (added all the dependencies for sure) but still i get an error: ~/.minetest/mods/technic/technic/config.lua:4: attempt to call global 'settings' (a nil value) 18:03 HeisenbergCZE which i cannot solve :( does anyone know? thanks 18:03 Peacock you still missing something 18:03 us`0gb That means you're using the dev version of Technic. 18:04 Exio4 https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/commit/b7ed2e412454abb361536271a6b3b41615fa22c8 18:04 HeisenbergCZE i will take a look 18:04 * Exio4 cries 18:04 us`0gb HeisenbergCZE, try using the stable branch of Technic. 18:05 HeisenbergCZE Exio4, us`0gb thanks, it works now! :) 18:05 us`0gb Great! 18:06 Exio4 wut 18:06 Exio4 it was us`0gb, not me 18:06 Exio4 i'm here crying 18:06 HeisenbergCZE i have to read better for future 18:06 us`0gb Why are you crying? 18:08 Exio4 joke :P 18:08 Exio4 the code doesn't work and i don't know why 18:08 thexyz john_minetest: it doesn't matter which distro he uses 18:08 us`0gb Hmm. That happens to me all the time. 18:12 Exio4 ha 18:13 OldCoder john_minetest, Hi! 18:13 OldCoder john_minetest, when done here, wish to help port Zegaton? 18:13 Exio4 john_minetest: https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/commit/2a5ceabe0a8c14c7b75603908efb2468e83d611f 18:16 Exio4 the commit i posted is the actual fix that i made to https://github.com/EXio4/IPoIRC/commit/b7ed2e412454abb361536271a6b3b41615fa22c8 18:37 STHGOM hello 19:06 Dan_D Is there any docs for MgV7 biome definition api? I am sure there was somewhere... 19:06 PilzAdam there isnt 19:07 Dan_D Oh 19:07 Dan_D I still thought there was an spi though 19:08 Dan_D *api 19:09 Dan_D I saw it in a thread somewhere 19:12 Jordach http://imgur.com/gallery/oc8C8YK 19:15 Dan_D Pretty Damned Big Village: http://s7.postimg.org/6sjgycfx7/screenshot_2402315380.png 19:16 NekoGloop What mod's that? 19:16 Dan_D https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263 19:16 Dan_D !title 19:16 MinetestBot Dan_D: [Mod] Experimental mapgen [mg] (Page 1) — Modding General — Minetest Forums 19:17 Jordach I WIN http://i.imgur.com/7Akn6Z6.jpg 19:17 Dan_D Mine has just as much, like libraries, big church, diner etc 19:18 PilzAdam Jordach, that TP is still ugly :-p 19:20 Dan_D So is there a biome api? 19:23 Dan_D Hello? 19:24 Miner_48er hi 19:24 Dan_D Is there a biome api? 19:25 Calinou on mgv7, yes? (IIRC) 19:25 Dan_D YES!! 19:30 Dan_D What is the api? 19:38 Niften hi 19:38 us`0gb Hello! 19:38 Niften Hey 0bg 19:38 STHGOM hello 19:39 Niften 0bg PM me, i have something tot ell you 19:46 Niften PilzAdam: I have a confession, i blamed prestortron55 for the mod use, and I don't intend on him getting hated on. 19:52 Niften pilzadam your a bitch 19:52 Niften fuck you 19:53 STHGOM ? 19:53 PilzAdam !kick Niften insulting 19:54 Calinou "tot" 19:54 Calinou I read "hot" initially... 19:54 Niften no 19:54 Niften its not insulting 19:54 PilzAdam read the rules at http://minetest.net/IRC 19:55 Niften ok i will but did you read what i said 19:55 Niften im gonna leave but please read that before something goes overboard 19:56 PilzAdam heh, thats prestons IP 19:56 PilzAdam good try 20:07 Peacock multiple personalities lol 20:08 us`0gb So Niften is Preston55 then? 20:08 * Peacock is in awe 20:08 Peacock really 20:08 Peacock XD 20:09 us`0gb I'm not sure I believe that, they were arguing the other day. 20:09 us`0gb Oops. 20:10 thexyz those rules 20:10 thexyz > Annoying, racism or any form of derogatory term against any user or channel operator will probably get you quieted; or even banned. 20:10 Peacock ogb if you had two handles and though people suspected they were both the same, wouldn't you argue with yourselves? :P 20:11 Peacock *thought 20:11 thexyz > Off-topic is allowed, but excessive use of it is disallowed. 20:11 us`0gb I can;t type fast enough to manage to hold up both sides of a conversation. 20:12 us`0gb Also, everyone recognizes my alter egos. 20:12 us`0gb john_minetest, or cook it first. 20:12 PilzAdam john_minetest, from penny? ;-) 20:13 us`0gb For a time, I was RealBadAngle. That was fun. 20:14 us0gb hello 20:14 ShadowNinja ^ Not to be confused with a spammer/flooder/whatever that used that nick. 20:16 Peacock free games always attract spammers and griefers lol no one pays to pull shit like that on other games 20:16 us^0gb What the heck ... I couldn't type .... 20:17 us^0gb Anyway, john_minetest, there's also us-0gb available. 20:17 Peacock tell that to all the people who restrict their servers one way or another lol 20:19 us^0gb Why does the German channel have one pound sign but the Spanish channel have two? 20:19 us^0gb #minetest-de ##minetest-es 20:19 PilzAdam because germans are cool 20:19 us^0gb SO are Spaniards. 20:19 us^0gb *So 20:20 us^0gb Ah, so more Germans than Spaniards here then. 20:20 codehero lol :P 20:20 sfan5 .. 20:20 sfan5 :P 20:20 Yepoleb yeah, you did :D 20:20 Naked the germans are slowly invading us 20:20 codehero :D 20:20 codehero me is have german 20:20 Naked we need more spanish or latin users here 20:21 codehero half 20:21 Yepoleb hey, austrians speak german too 20:21 chlue ShadowNinja: Can we bargain for other switching station recipes for the technic mod? 20:21 thexyz nice http://blockchain.info/address/1F1tAaz5x1HUXrCNLbtMDqcw6o5GNn4xqX 20:21 us^0gb Would a heating furnace be useful to anyone in Minetest? As in, not a cooking one? 20:22 Peacock and yet, no Oktoberfest mod :( 20:22 ShadowNinja chlue: I am not sure what you mean by bargain, but ou can offer alternatives. Note: Technic stuff -> #minetest-technic. 20:22 PilzAdam Naked, even the core dev team is almost half german 20:22 ShadowNinja you* 20:22 us^0gb I think the engine has freezing now, though I'm not sure on that. 20:22 Naked too many germans. some of you should move out to another country 20:23 Naked to balance it out 20:23 Peacock Naked where else in Europe would they go? 20:23 us^0gb Oh, death freezing. Nah, I'm not into that. 20:23 Peacock better off staying in Germany :P 20:23 Naked outside of germany? 20:23 thexyz Public Note: Why do we put people who are on drugs in jail? They're sick, they're not criminals. Sick people don't get healed in prison. You see? It makes no sense. 20:23 codehero Naked> i moved out :P 20:23 Peacock most other economies seem to be tanking 20:23 Fabio hi guys! Just one question, could it be possible to convert Minetest worlds to Minecraft? 20:24 PilzAdam Naked, only insane people move away from germany if they were there once 20:24 Peacock cuz jail is cheaper than healthcare i guess 20:24 us^0gb Fabio, not at the moment. 20:24 PilzAdam Fabio, havent seen anything like that, but its possible in the other direction 20:24 thexyz so germany best country? 20:24 Fabio yes, that's what I've seen 20:24 Fabio and Minetest to Blender? 20:24 us^0gb PilzAdam, it's possible in reverse? Awesome! 20:24 Peacock in the EU, probably yeah 20:25 Fabio or other 3D soft? 20:25 PilzAdam Fabio, AFAIK only in the other direction :_/ 20:25 PilzAdam *:-/ 20:26 Peacock except, they could use a minimum wage 20:27 PilzAdam bye 20:27 Fabio I want to make a contest in my town where students have to design some local buldings 20:27 Fabio and I want to use all that material to recreate my town in a big 3D world 20:28 Peacock get a map and use kaezas image loader to reproduce the roads and building outlines, good start 20:28 Fabio Minetest is the best option as have the best performance for students netbooks 20:28 Peacock minetest has been pretty shitty on both my netbooks :/ 20:28 Peacock weird colourful polygons on my screen 20:29 Fabio but I need a way to get all those worlds and extract models and merge them in a 3D world 20:29 Peacock ? 20:30 Peacock why not have 'em work on the same map? 20:31 Fabio because I want to make some presentations with the best models 20:31 Peacock well the map is huge, they dont need to do it all in the same area 20:31 Fabio and I want to import them to Blender or 3DMax 20:31 Peacock import minetest to blender? 20:31 Fabio yes 20:31 Peacock there's no such tool to my knowledge 20:32 Peacock i can do the opposite, and kaeza can can import images into minetest, thats about it 20:32 Fabio any way to take models outside minetest? 20:33 Peacock make models out of minetest things? 20:35 Fabio yes, let students "model" stuff in minetest and then take chunks out of that worlds, the idea is to use minetest as a creative design tool 20:36 sfan5 !title 20:36 MinetestBot sfan5: BGB - Einzelnorm 20:38 chlue Fabio: I guess directly working in Blender is out of your scope then? 20:39 Fabio yes, the idea is that students "play" with minetest while they model 20:41 Fabio I have seen various minecraft -> minetest 20:41 * sfan5 made two 20:42 Fabio but I was wondering, if we can have a tool to make invert process: minetest -> minecraft 20:42 Fabio It would be possible to use all tools associated to minecraft with minetest worlds 20:43 Fabio for example, this feature to convert minecraft worlds to gmap: http://overviewer.org/wow/#/4277/64/6091/-7/0/0 20:44 Fabio do you know of people working on this? Exporting minetest to minecraft? 20:50 Fabio john_minetest, do you know who made this? Can I have his e-mail? 20:56 Fabio the minecraft -> minetest import feature 20:57 Fabio I would like to try it and talk if there's a possibility to make it the other way 20:59 Fabio yes, I have sended him a message thru the forum, but if you have direct contact info, I'll appreciatte it 21:00 sfan5[iPod] hi john_minetest 21:00 VanessaE hi all 21:00 * VanessaE is back. yay. :) 21:00 Fabio hey, I didn't know he was here ;) 21:00 sfan5[iPod] ? 21:00 Fabio thanks ;) 21:01 Fabio hi sfan5[iPod] 21:01 sfan5[iPod] hi... 21:02 Fabio sorry if I'm lost but I would like to test the minecraft -> minetest conversion stuff 21:02 Fabio is it available to try it? 21:02 sfan5[iPod] sure 21:02 sfan5[iPod] search the forum 21:03 Miner_48er https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6007 21:03 Fabio great ;) 21:04 Fabio and is there any chance to make the opposite? Minetest -> Minecraft conversion? 21:05 VanessaE why would anyone want to? 21:06 Fabio I think it would open many possibilities 21:07 VanessaE I don't think anyone here's really interested in going in that direction, but it's surely possible 21:08 VanessaE the map format is documented and uses well-known databases to store it 21:08 VanessaE at least minetest is. 21:08 VanessaE MC is another matter. 21:08 Fabio minecraft have a lot of tools for their worlds, and having a minetest->minecraft tool, could indirectly gave minetest the access to all that tools to tranforming worlds 21:09 Fabio for example, MC can convert to Google Maps for navigation and being imported on Blender 21:10 Peacock Temple Island http://s8.postimg.org/bzrout1h1/screenshot_2409247916.png 21:10 Fabio if exists a minetest->minecraft conversion, minetest would have those tools too 21:15 CraigyDavi Anyone know what the proble could be here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202466/ 21:16 CraigyDavi *problem 21:17 pitriss Fabio: But how do you want to display block which is not in MC? Modding of MT makes that conversion much harder IMO.. But I may be wrong, I'm not dev at all.. 21:23 Fabio pitriss not a dev too, but I think that importing resources could make it possible 21:24 CraigyDavi I have done that but now this happens: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6202505/ 21:27 Miner_48er delete abcdefg playerfile 21:28 CraigyDavi done that and now it moves on to the next player in alphabetical order 21:28 Miner_48er linux? 21:29 CraigyDavi me? no, windows. 21:30 CraigyDavi huh? 21:30 Miner_48er ? 21:31 CraigyDavi thats odd when I remove all players if fine 21:31 CraigyDavi it's 21:32 Miner_48er likely a few corrupt files 21:32 CraigyDavi Any way I can fix this. It just happened all of a sudden. 21:49 Fabio thanks guys! see you later 21:57 zat https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1186346_10151728691578264_1828577160_n.jpg 23:00 OldCoder Whose inventory_plus should be used these days? 23:00 * OldCoder is rebuilding worlds 23:04 OldCoder Does anybody have a link to Zeg9 places mod? 23:05 OldCoder Or to Unified Inventory? 23:06 paramat lol the crevis soap opera continues 23:06 OldCoder ? 23:09 OldCoder And perhaps the lantern mod used in Zegaton 23:09 OldCoder No credits 23:09 paramat today's logs at 19:46 23:09 OldCoder Does anybody know where the lantern mod came from? 23:09 OldCoder Taoki, Hi! 23:09 Taoki hi :) 23:09 OldCoder Taoki or Mircea 23:09 OldCoder I am bring dozens of worlds 23:09 OldCoder back to life 23:09 OldCoder Do you know much of mods? 23:10 OldCoder People other than John and VanessaE are not commenting 23:10 OldCoder And John must sleep now 23:10 OldCoder 23:10 OldCoder arsdragonfly, hi 23:11 OldCoder Who did the lanterns mod? Anybody know? 23:12 OldCoder JesseH, Hi 23:12 OldCoder JesseHi 23:12 JesseH Hey OldCoder 23:12 OldCoder So nobody can comment on mods? Regrettable 23:12 arsdragonfly Hey OldCoder 23:12 OldCoder arsdragonfly, Hey! 23:12 OldCoder I am bringing back 20 worlds 23:13 OldCoder and updating to latest upstream 23:13 OldCoder But I need help with mods. Send folks to see me. 23:13 * JesseH will assist, if he can 23:13 OldCoder 23:16 JesseH OldCoder, You're going to host a server? 23:16 OldCoder JesseH, I have hosted one for a year 23:16 OldCoder The current one is rather powerful 23:16 JesseH Oh, well give me the IP and ill hop on one 23:16 OldCoder If people will help (hint) it will be good 23:16 JesseH ^_^ 23:16 OldCoder I am occupied with updating the worlds ATM 23:17 OldCoder WTF is "Lanterns" 23:17 OldCoder Anybody??? 23:17 JesseH Gonna update minetest 23:17 OldCoder k 23:17 JesseH Lanterns? Those things that are used for light? 23:17 OldCoder Yes 23:17 OldCoder But where is the official link 23:17 OldCoder For the mod that Zegaton is using? 23:17 OldCoder And whose mod is "spawn" ?? 23:17 OldCoder Or "pulverize all" ? 23:17 OldCoder 23:17 JesseH Are lanterns better than torches? 23:18 OldCoder I have no idea 23:18 OldCoder Speak, people! 23:18 JesseH People may be asleep :Pp 23:18 OldCoder Nobody? 23:18 OldCoder Very well 23:18 * JesseH throws patience at OldCoder :P 23:18 * OldCoder catches and nibbles it 23:18 JesseH Heh 23:31 paramat i cant help with your questions OC ;) 23:33 OldCoder paramat, Thank you for responding 23:34 * OldCoder persists because he wishes people to have fun 23:34 OldCoder Hmm 23:34 paramat post on the forum :) 23:40 OldCoder paramat, possibly t y; but I am contributing a very powerful server 23:40 OldCoder If people are not able to comment here and save me time 23:40 OldCoder I think it is reasonable to proceed more slowly 23:40 ShadowNinja OldCoder: I would recommend unified inventor. 23:41 OldCoder ShadowBot, Inventory not Inventor 23:41 OldCoder Link? 23:41 OldCoder Vanessa said the same 23:41 OldCoder But did not have the link 23:41 * OldCoder needs the LINKS not the NAMES 23:41 ShadowNinja https://github.com/minetest-technic/unified_inventory 23:41 OldCoder Well thank you!! 23:47 JesseH Can anyone help me understand why my framerate stays around 8, in game/ 23:47 JesseH and how I can speed it up 23:48 ShadowNinja JesseH: Minetest is very unoptimized? You have a lot of mods? You have a bad graphics card? 23:48 JesseH I am on a shitty laptop 23:49 JesseH Also, how can things be more optimized? Are people working on this? 23:49 JesseH Also, no mods 23:49 JesseH Oh, I took all the settings off, and i am about at 25 now. 23:49 JesseH Much better, but still awkward game play. 23:49 JesseH I am collecting a list of improvements that will need to be made to give an optimal gaming experience for someone with the minetest engine. 23:51 JesseH For example, it taking a second or two for blocks to appear when placed. 23:52 JesseH Might just be me, though 23:52 JesseH So not that big of a deal i guess 23:52 shurtugal Can someone please help me? I cannot log on to any server, says my clients version is not supported (linux)."server version is 0.4.6, server's PROTOCOL_VERSION is 13...13, clients PROTOCOL_VERSION is 3...3 23:53 shurtugal I used the terminal to install minetest 23:53 Menche what version is your client? 23:53 shurtugal How do you tell? 23:53 Menche should be in the top-left corner 23:53 shurtugal hold on 23:54 Menche if you installed it from your distro's repository, i would guess that it is 0.3.something 23:54 shurtugal 0.3.1 23:54 shurtugal How do i upgrade? 23:54 Menche yeah, that's too old for most servers. what distro? 23:54 shurtugal Debian 23:54 shurtugal wheazy 23:54 Menche the recommended way would be to compile it 23:55 Menche there's detailed instructions in the README 23:55 shurtugal Ill try but im still new to linux (thanks 23:55 shurtugal gonna try that now, later (thanks)