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| 00:06 |
VanessaE |
Pilcrow: at this time of night it tends to go quiet |
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Inocudom |
The experimental mapgen mod has many features that I hope will make it into mapgen v7 one day. |
| 00:10 |
VanessaE |
who knows...maybe |
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Peacock |
kaeza, i think i found a way to do geoip locally on server host machine |
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kaeza |
hm? |
| 00:26 |
iqualfragile |
Inocudom: link? |
| 00:27 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263 (this is the link) |
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Inocudom |
The features of this mod will make the base game more interesting. |
| 00:31 |
iqualfragile |
i like those new mods |
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Inocudom |
Has anybody ever tested the lulzpack mod? |
| 00:35 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3907 (link to the mod) |
| 00:36 |
Evergreen |
I tried, but it didn't even generate a world |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111558#p111558 |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
opinions needed. |
| 00:37 |
VanessaE |
(not related to Inocudom's link) |
| 00:37 |
Inocudom |
Why does lulzpack need to be an actual game? Why not just a modpack? If people tested and commented on the mod more often, it might end up better in the end. |
| 00:40 |
Inocudom |
If the two maps are combined, then there would need to be two player classes. Creative mode players would have to be incapable of dropping anything or putting anything in a chest. |
| 00:41 |
Inocudom |
Survival mode players would work as normal, though they should not be able to build in the creative zone, nor should creative players be able to build in the survival zone. |
| 00:42 |
Inocudom |
Once a player decides to be creative or survival, the decision is permanent for all eternity. |
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jojoa1997 |
who made the mg mod |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: write your opinions on the forum post plz |
| 00:44 |
VanessaE |
jojoa1997: nore |
| 00:45 |
PilzAdam |
and sfan5 |
| 00:45 |
jojoa1997 |
thanks |
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Inocudom |
I wrote them in a post in the topic. |
| 00:51 |
jojoa1997 |
Incondium what opinions |
| 00:51 |
Inocudom |
The mod below might be of great help concerning the server: |
| 00:51 |
Inocudom |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5545 |
| 00:51 |
VanessaE |
G*d damn it |
| 00:52 |
jojoa1997 |
waht mod is it |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
stupid forum bug shows part of an old poll on the creative server's page now |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
(I tried to add a simple yes/no/undecided, but it has answers from an OLLLLD poll from when I proposed the map reset on that server) |
| 00:52 |
VanessaE |
Inocudom: oooohhh |
| 00:52 |
jojoa1997 |
there should be a setting to delete polls |
| 00:53 |
jojoa1997 |
waht mod is it? |
| 00:53 |
Inocudom |
Priviledge Areas |
| 00:53 |
jojoa1997 |
oh yeah i like that |
| 00:53 |
VanessaE |
too bad there isn't a "creative" privilege |
| 00:53 |
zat1 |
Someone knows of a mod that lets invalid commands pass as messages? This is happening to me now and I have too many mods to try disabling one by one. |
| 00:54 |
jojoa1997 |
especially the idea of gravity in certain areas(especially since i failed at making a mod like that months ago) |
| 00:56 |
Inocudom |
Taoki (MirceaKitsune) is here with us? |
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Inocudom |
Has Taoki seen the experimental mapgen (https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263) yet? |
| 00:58 |
VanessaE |
yep, already played a bit with it |
| 00:59 |
Inocudom |
How would it be if mapgen v7 had those features? |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
dunno, I haven't played with it enough to decide |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
and I'never used mgv7 myself |
| 01:00 |
VanessaE |
I've* |
| 01:08 |
Inocudom |
oOChainLynxOo did a video of my creations on Redcrab's server recently. Below is the link to the video: |
| 01:09 |
Inocudom |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVN4p3L1gtc&list=UUGBOAQUgqCUtDA-4L4mHVzA&feature=player_detailpage |
| 01:10 |
kaeza |
VanessaE, do you have a link to your updated colors.txt for the mapper handy? |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/colors.txt |
| 01:11 |
kaeza |
thanks :) |
| 01:11 |
VanessaE |
support for streets and stained glass is out of date though |
| 01:11 |
Evergreen |
Ahouldn't be too hard to update it though |
| 01:11 |
Evergreen |
*Shouldn't |
| 01:15 |
Sokomine |
hi? |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
should be easy |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
I'm just lazy :P |
| 01:16 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 01:16 |
kaeza |
http://kaeza.mooo.com/minetest-map/map.png |
| 01:16 |
Pilcrow |
off to play some minetest :) |
| 01:20 |
Evergreen |
kaeza: Is your server in your house? |
| 01:21 |
kaeza |
maybe, maybe not |
| 01:21 |
kaeza |
probably not |
| 01:22 |
kaeza |
why? |
| 01:28 |
Peacock |
sweet, the serverside geoip works :-) |
| 01:28 |
kaeza |
great :D |
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NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/YFMZl9J.png |
| 01:30 |
VanessaE |
heh, cute |
| 01:31 |
NekoGloop |
NEKOGIGAS :3 |
| 01:35 |
Peacock |
45 minutes till Breaking Bad :D |
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Inocudom |
I still like to play the multiplayer fps game Red Eclipse, but the game does not have custom player model support. |
| 01:44 |
Inocudom |
Doesn't seem like anybody has ever made a mod to do that either. |
| 01:46 |
Inocudom |
It seems odd that absolutely none of the players would care about custom model support, but I am a very hard person to surprise, as my current signature states. |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:50 |
Dark_Soul |
can someone help me? |
| 01:51 |
Dark_Soul |
my hoes will not till the dirt |
| 01:52 |
Peacock |
try slapping them around |
| 01:52 |
VanessaE |
wrong kind of ho(e), Peacock ... :) |
| 01:53 |
Peacock |
oups |
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| 02:03 |
Dark_Soul |
-.- really |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
no idea about the problem with the hoes |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
onyl pilzadam or zeg9 could answer that I guess |
| 02:04 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 02:04 |
VanessaE |
unless you're just trying to play somewhere where you have no interact privilege |
| 02:05 |
Dark_Soul |
no its my own server |
| 02:12 |
NekoGloop |
That doesn't neccessarily mean you have interact |
| 02:13 |
NekoGloop |
After all, minetest servers are really really stupid |
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Inocudom |
There is someone else who is starting out with making gameplay videos of Minetest. His name is IrfaanGames and the link to one of his videos is below. |
| 02:29 |
Inocudom |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBKgaRu4R8o |
| 02:30 |
Dark_Soul |
im going to start doing that i hope soon |
| 02:30 |
Inocudom |
Good idea. |
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Dark_Soul |
thanks |
| 02:31 |
Dark_Soul |
all the ones i have seen are all playing in creative -.- |
| 02:35 |
Inocudom |
oOChainLynxOo rarely plays in creative. |
| 02:35 |
Dark_Soul |
ok cool |
| 02:36 |
Dark_Soul |
VanessaE |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
hm? |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
do you use linux? |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
yes |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
(debian) |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
o not the same as mine |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
doesn't matter much |
| 02:38 |
VanessaE |
one's as good as another for most things |
| 02:38 |
Dark_Soul |
well i need help seting up a short cut to start my server so i dont have to be on at all times |
| 02:39 |
Miner_48er |
restart script |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
http://pastebin.com/sMqmryGq |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
modify that to suit your needs. |
| 02:39 |
VanessaE |
it's what I use for my servers |
| 02:40 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 02:40 |
Dark_Soul |
so use the terminal |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
mmhmm |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
that's how it's done when you set up a daemon |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
i use the ubunto |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
*ubuntu |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
ubuntu* |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
lol |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
ubuntu is debian with a bunch of extra stuff added |
| 02:41 |
Dark_Soul |
ok |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
so, same diff |
| 02:43 |
Dark_Soul |
hmmm |
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Dark_Soul |
. /home/minetest says no such file |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
like I said, modify it to suit your system |
| 02:46 |
VanessaE |
like where your minetest instance is kept, where your config files are stored, etc. |
| 02:47 |
Dark_Soul |
well this is going to be fun (i just got linux this morning) so im new to this |
| 02:50 |
Miner_48er |
using a gui or cmdline |
| 02:50 |
Miner_48er |
*terminal |
| 02:51 |
Dark_Soul |
yes i know that |
| 02:56 |
Inocudom |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH9jGI1mzSI&feature=player_detailpage&list=UU9-aSGgj7pVXFEnd-iFzVdA |
| 02:57 |
Inocudom |
The world is not a happy place anymore (though it was never meant to be.) |
| 02:58 |
Miner_48er |
VanessaE What's the typical # of errors your server has a day? |
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VanessaE |
Miner_48er: less than 1 |
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VanessaE |
Inocudom: oh G*d please not that crap :( |
| 02:59 |
Miner_48er |
ERROR[ServerThread] ? |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
oh, idk. I don't routinely count such things |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
but my server rarely crashes anyway |
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sfan5 |
!title |
| 06:00 |
MinetestBot |
sfan5: Signs Of Change The Past Week Or So Sept. 2013 Part 1 - YouTube |
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VanessaE_[T] |
looked like a religious "end of days" thing |
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[0gb_us] |
I seem to have some sort of invisible ... something ... at the top of my desktop. |
| 06:11 |
[0gb_us] |
When I drag windows, they catch on it, like if there was a panel there. |
| 06:13 |
VanessaE_[T] |
weird |
| 06:16 |
[0gb_us] |
I also have a new idea I plan to implement: season-specific nodes. You have to obtain them in the correct season, but can build with them any time. Combined with shops, it could mean lucrative business for those with foresight. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
like perennial flowers or so |
| 06:18 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah. I'm not sure how I want to apply the concept to the flowers yet, but I do want to have some sort of flower type for each season. Trees will be easier, once I figure out the L-system. Saplings will grow into a different form of the tree for each season. |
| 06:18 |
[0gb_us] |
For example, flowering trees in spring. |
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[0gb_us] |
Any tree grown in one season but left alone will keep its original form. |
| 06:20 |
VanessaE_[T] |
the old nature mod used to add blossoms to trees |
| 06:20 |
[0gb_us] |
Didn't already-grown trees change with the seasons? Mine won't do that. |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE_[T] |
nope, not that I know of |
| 06:22 |
VanessaE_[T] |
the blossoms just appeared randomly |
| 06:22 |
[0gb_us] |
Okay, I must be thinking of a different plugin then. My bad. |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE_[T] |
maybe mauv---peacock's seasons mkd |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE_[T] |
mod* |
| 06:23 |
kahrl |
you mean Khaaaaaaaaan? |
| 06:23 |
[0gb_us] |
This one will check the current UNIX time stamp and apply the correct season at growth time. I don't know whether to use northern seasons or southern seasons though ... |
| 06:23 |
VanessaE_[T] |
yeah :P |
| 06:24 |
[0gb_us] |
Can Windows use UNIX time stamps, or do I need a fallback method for use on WIndows? |
| 06:25 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm. Timestamp isn't what I need anyway. I need a date. |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE_[T] |
doubt it. isn't there a regular time/date function? |
| 06:25 |
VanessaE_[T] |
right |
| 06:25 |
[0gb_us] |
I know Windows uses dates. |
| 06:25 |
[0gb_us] |
A time/date function in Lua? |
| 06:26 |
kahrl |
os.time |
| 06:26 |
VanessaE_[T] |
yeah |
| 06:26 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, nice. That will make things easier. |
| 06:27 |
[0gb_us] |
Now I just need to hope the solstices and equinoxes land on the same dates each year. |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE_[T] |
they won't |
| 06:28 |
[0gb_us] |
Drats. This will be hard then. |
| 06:28 |
VanessaE_[T] |
but do you really want to go THAT long-term? |
| 06:29 |
[0gb_us] |
I build to last, yes. Why should I build something that is broken from the start? I might as well not build it at that point. |
| 06:29 |
[0gb_us] |
I could round it off, and target by month though, if it comes to it. |
| 06:30 |
VanessaE_[T] |
well I'd have suggested that a season only last maybe a week of real time |
| 06:30 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm ... THat would probably be faster in Lua anyway. |
| 06:31 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, nonnonono. That would kill some of the fun. It would also kill most of the business aspect. |
| 06:32 |
[0gb_us] |
If you miss the spring nodes, just wait three weeks? That's not all that long. |
| 06:33 |
[0gb_us] |
I might align the game clock with GMT as well, but that's more of a server-specific setting that will only apply to my worlds. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
hi |
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[0gb_us] |
Then again, a week-by-week seasonal clock would eliminate the northern versus southern hemisphere issues ... |
| 06:36 |
VanessaE_[T] |
yup |
| 06:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Though that could also be fixed by making the seasons wrong for everyone. |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE_[T] |
and j game time, a month is a pretty long time |
| 06:37 |
VanessaE_[T] |
s/j/in/ |
| 06:39 |
[0gb_us] |
Hmm ... I supose a month could be a season. It would be a decent compromise between full-length seasons and overly-short seasons. THough it would also make holiday-related nodes such as jack-o-lanterns make little sense. |
| 06:39 |
VanessaE_[T] |
there are 72 game days in a real day so even a week of real time is too long |
| 06:40 |
[0gb_us] |
The game days would be lengthened though to real time. |
| 06:40 |
VanessaE_[T] |
ehhhh |
| 06:41 |
[0gb_us] |
My only issue is people in different time zones/hemispheres ... |
| 06:41 |
kahrl |
I remember the day/night feature from the pokemon games. Neat, but probably also a nightmare for parents :D |
| 06:42 |
[0gb_us] |
True. |
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[0gb_us] |
Meh. I guess jack-o-lanterns three times per real year (and probably not any of those times landing in October wouldn't be SO bad ... |
| 06:43 |
[0gb_us] |
Hah, children having to sleep. I bet parents liked that. |
| 06:43 |
kahrl |
you could just make up your own holidays that are aligned with the in game year |
| 06:44 |
[0gb_us] |
My own holidays ... That would be fun. But with my low level of creativity, it would take time. |
| 06:45 |
[0gb_us] |
I won't be adding mobs, at least until the 2000+ nodes are done. |
| 06:45 |
MinetestBot |
john_minetest: Van Canto - Last Night of the Kings (Official) - YouTube |
| 06:46 |
[0gb_us] |
I think someone linked me to that in the past. |
| 06:46 |
VanessaE_[T] |
until entity duplication is fixed, mobs are best done by faking it with nodes :) |
| 06:47 |
[0gb_us] |
I'm not even sure if I'm going to utilize falling nodes, and I'm almost certain I'll remove the ability to drop items. |
| 06:47 |
[0gb_us] |
That'll annoy people. THey'll need chests to do any gifting. |
| 06:49 |
[0gb_us] |
Maybe that's too drastic. |
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pitriss |
hi, please, is there any way how I can make player skin transparent? |
| 07:07 |
[0gb_us] |
Yeah, you'll need an image editor to do that. I'd recommend GIMP. |
| 07:08 |
[0gb_us] |
If you install GIMP, I can walk you through it, it's an easy proccess. |
| 07:08 |
[0gb_us] |
*process |
| 07:09 |
pitriss |
I have gimp.. :) I only want to know if it will be working... |
| 07:09 |
[0gb_us] |
Okay, yeah, it'll work. Just select the whole image, hit the delete key, then save. |
| 07:10 |
pitriss |
so when I leave some space on body transparent, then there will be possible see through player? |
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[0gb_us] |
I believe so, yes. |
| 07:10 |
pitriss |
great.. thank you evry much |
| 07:11 |
[0gb_us] |
Actually, yeah, I'm positive. |
| 07:11 |
[0gb_us] |
No problem. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
note to self: tablets are not exactly packed with RAM. |
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[0gb_us] |
What do you mean by that? |
| 08:32 |
[0gb_us] |
Never mind, I misread. |
| 08:32 |
[0gb_us] |
I thought you said "tables". As in Lua tables. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
heh |
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VanessaE_[T] |
nope, just lazing in bed, hence the tablet... I go off to look at a neat steampunk keyboard hack and byebye irc... |
| 08:36 |
kahrl |
I sometimes pack my kitchen table with ram. It's delicious. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
fricken browser takes up like 350 MB of RAM and I only have 512. |
| 08:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Oh, joy. |
| 08:37 |
VanessaE_[T] |
don't you mean jam? :) |
| 08:37 |
kahrl |
ram with jam |
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[0gb_us] |
I don't get it, VanessaE. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
nevermind. bad joke |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Checkers Day! :) |
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[0gb_us] |
Happy Checkers Day to you as well. And good night, I'm off to bed. |
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VanessaE_[T] |
hi |
| 08:52 |
VanessaE_[T] |
mmmmmm checkers...I could go for some of their fries right about now... ;) |
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GIT: BlockMen commited to minetest/minetest: Fix compiling issue of MSVC 9e6bdc377f 2013-09-23T02:51:14-07:00 http://git.io/ao_MnA |
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otak |
Hi, when trying to place a door in a building mod, server says 'not allowing to place CONTENT_IGNORE while trying to replace "air"' |
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otak |
maybe doors:register_door can work? |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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otak |
hi. when I tried doors:register_door the server crashed |
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VanessaE |
hey PilzAdam. |
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VanessaE |
did you depend on doors first? |
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VanessaE |
if you don't and try to use a function from it, most of the time your code will crash |
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VanessaE |
(same is true for all mods) |
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otak |
do you mean in the depends.txt |
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VanessaE |
yeah |
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otak |
oh thanks we're trying to understand how to add a door as part of a mod |
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VanessaE |
that's how it works |
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VanessaE |
if you use some others mod's function(s), you must either depend on that mod, or copy its functions into yours and rename and tune them to suit. |
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otak |
actually just wanted to call minetest.env:add_node(<doorname>) but a door is more than one node |
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VanessaE |
right |
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VanessaE |
in which case you have to add both nodes. |
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VanessaE |
check for air or buildable_to in both spaces, then add both nodes one at a tim |
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VanessaE |
tme* |
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VanessaE |
time***** |
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jojoa1997 |
Hi! |
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jojoa1997 |
where are biomes defined in the mg mod |
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otak |
thanks VanessaE we finally managed to put doors on our magic earth towers :D |
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VanessaE |
cool |
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* harrison |
wakes from the sisyphean rotisserie and begins the grueling ascent to the treadwheel |
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harrison |
http://youtu.be/woWrILbhLVY |
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harrison |
thank you. the next one will be nicer. |
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Mossmanikin |
Hi folks |
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VanessaE |
hi |
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harrison |
john_minetest: come back! ops will be yours np! |
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Mossmanikin |
Evergreen: would you like to test if generating is faster now? |
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Evergreen |
Sure |
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Mossmanikin |
nice (need a subjective opinion, so mine doesn't count :D) |
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Mossmanikin |
*objective instead of subjective ;) |
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xiong |
Near as I can tell, the difference between a sand tube and a mese sand tube is that, for the latter, the radius of effect is adjustable. What's the plain sand tube's radius? |
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xiong |
Um... intended. |
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* Evergreen |
is afk |
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Jordach |
afternoon |
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* Jordach |
pokes sfan5 |
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sfan5 |
how did you know I just returned |
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PilzAdam |
hi Jordach |
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Jordach |
hey PilzAdam |
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* Calinou |
pets sfan5 |
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Calinou |
hi |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at Calinou |
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* harrison |
emerges from the pond festooned with duckweed |
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Jordach |
lol harrison |
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Jordach |
sfan5, any news ;P |
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sfan5 |
no |
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sfan5 |
but what about more buildings? |
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Jordach |
crack a private server up then |
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Jordach |
private != PUBLIC LISTINGS. |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: why private? use my public one |
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harrison |
what is it called? |
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Jordach |
sfan5, i wanna do private survival with MG |
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sfan5 |
harrison: see the serverlist |
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sfan5 |
Jordach: oh... |
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Jordach |
you know, play with you guys |
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Jordach |
(not like that) :P |
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harrison |
i am not seeing the public serverlist today |
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harrison |
only "favorites" i used before |
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sfan5 |
http://servers.minetest.net/ |
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harrison |
shocking new film btw http://youtu.be/2HLYiPb9gww |
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proller |
harrison, what kind of drugs you use ? |
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Calinou |
he uses mese |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all! |
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Calinou |
hi rubenwardy |
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rubenwardy |
waz up minetest bitches?@ |
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harrison |
proller: not even nsaids i am sorry to say |
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harrison |
i fear being a genius takes so much time that i forget to relax and have fun and take drugs |
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harrison |
why, what do you suggest? |
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Mossmanikin |
VanessaE: thanks for the idea to trigger on tree trunks instead of the ground, result looks much better :) |
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Mossmanikin |
Somehow fits to the sound of Prodigy |
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harrison |
Prodigy? you are remixing it? or you think that is prodigy? |
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Mossmanikin |
No, watching the vid, listening to the prodigy |
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harrison |
oh, very good then. carry on |
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harrison |
that falls under "remixing" |
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Mossmanikin |
yeah, only there's no record ;) |
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sfan5 |
!TITLE |
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sfan5 |
!title |
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MinetestBot |
sfan5: festooned with duckweed - YouTube |
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PilzAdam |
note to self: sfan5 cant write ! without activating capslock :-p |
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sfan5 |
PilzAdam: this is what happend when I press the key for ! with capslock: 1 |
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sfan5 |
happens* |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, Hi! |
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OldCoder |
john_minetest, indicate your schedule in PM sometime |
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sfan5 |
hi OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
sfan5, hi too! |
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OldCoder |
I built the latest 0.4.7 upstream |
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OldCoder |
And I am updating mods. I figure I will need help to convert worlds. |
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OldCoder |
Can't do this during the day; I am at work |
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sfan5 |
convert worlds? |
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sfan5 |
I thought you do know how to use the migrate feature |
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sfan5 |
"minetestserver <every flag you use normally> --migrate <new_backend>" |
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OldCoder |
sfan5, no; I am referring to the mods |
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OldCoder |
sfan5, most of the worlds have game zips with mods that will no longer work |
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PilzAdam |
sfan5, AFAIK he already has leveldb worlds |
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OldCoder |
I need to find out which mods to keep, which to drop, and which to replace with whose versions |
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sfan5 |
I'm always available to help you |
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OldCoder |
Different people have taken over different mods; if a server maintainer wishes to preserve old worlds it is a bit of a mess. But we will proceed. Thank you! |
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OldCoder |
I will be working on this most weekends and some weekday evenings. |
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OldCoder |
I wish to preserve the old worlds, merge some of them into one, and run all of the new stuff |
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babyface1031 |
i can help with what i can OldCoder |
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OldCoder |
babyface1031, Oh yes; thanks. It will not happen immediately. But once it is done the worlds should be ready for future updates. |
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babyface1031 |
ok take your time |
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Mossmanikin |
preserving old stuff is a good thing, hated how it was almost impossible to do such a thing during the development of mc |
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sfan5 |
^ |
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PilzAdam |
for some reason it downloads a lot of data |
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Jordach |
called your mom |
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Calinou |
os.call("your_mom") |
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Mossmanikin |
:D |
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Calinou |
hi Mossmanikin :P |
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Mossmanikin |
Calinou: Hi Calinou :D |
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Mossmanikin |
Jordach, in case you called my mom, you helped to educate her? |
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Jordach |
plol |
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Jordach |
Mossmanikin, <PilzAdam> for some reason it downloads a lot of data <Jordach> called your mom |
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Mossmanikin |
lol |
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Mossmanikin |
Ok, ... finished laughing... Adam & my mom ... why not? Adam seems to be a clever guy, worth a try |
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Jordach |
nope |
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Jordach |
i'd rather rebuild London |
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Jordach |
or even the German capital (idk the name) |
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Calinou |
build paris! |
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* Calinou |
gallops away |
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Mossmanikin |
half of germans don't |
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Pelayo_ |
and then invade it |
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Mossmanikin |
;) |
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* Jordach |
pokes sfan5 |
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Jordach |
GTA IS OVERRATED |
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Jordach |
SAINTS ROW 4 FTW |
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sfan5 |
hag |
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sfan5 |
*heh |
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Jordach |
i'd rather use fast around the streets with a dubstep gun |
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Jordach |
hey PilzAdam, i've got different weapons in OpenSpades |
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Jordach |
namely ak-47, Ballista (iron sights) and a spas12 |
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PilzAdam |
just different skins? |
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Jordach_ |
not if you have the windows Slab6 editor :3 |
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Jordach_ |
actually; i've worked how it does the reloads and shit |
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Jordach_ |
see magazine.kv6? and the no magazine.kv6 models? |
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Jordach_ |
it switches the models and adds a magazine entity then switches round when reloaded |
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xiong |
Where we're going, we don't need roads. |
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PilzAdam |
spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111662#p111662 |
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zat |
Someone knows if it is possible, with WorldEdit, to stack regions ignoring air or specified blocks? |
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xiong |
BttF II. |
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xiong |
Erm, sorry; end of I. |
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xiong |
Needless to say, easy to get confused about time in that series. |
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xiong |
The DeLorean comes back equipped with antigravity, hence no need for roads. Also a Mr. Fusion with an input hopper that looks suspiciously like a blender from some "decor" outfit. |
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xiong |
So where they're going, they also don't need split-second timing to catch a once-in-a-lifetime lightning bolt. They do, though, still need 88 MPH. |
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kaeza |
afternoons |
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Calinou |
hi |
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zat |
Someone knows if it is possible, with WorldEdit, to stack regions ignoring air or specified blocks? |
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zat |
(I repeat so keaza can read) |
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kaeza |
zat, kaeza*, and no idea, sorry |
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kaeza |
one way would be creating layers of gravel or sand high up, and letting them fall, then doing a //replace to the desired node |
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kaeza |
[16:59:50] <Server> *** lecacasesdelicieux left the game |
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kaeza |
:I |
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Calinou |
lol |
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Calinou |
"ses" is incorrect here |
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kaeza |
Calinou, cacas (plural) |
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kaeza |
though I guess "le" is incorrect there |
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kaeza |
"the shits are delicious" O_o |
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Calinou |
it is |
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Calinou |
correct |
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Jordach_ |
OH GOD |
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zat1 |
that player was in my server a couple hours ago |
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zat1 |
thats scat |
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Peacock |
kaeza> [16:59:50] <Server> *** lecacasesdelicieux |
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Peacock |
had him/her too, told him to eat shit and banned him lol |
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kaeza |
huehuehue |
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kaeza |
I took my serv off the public server list for that reason |
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kaeza |
too many assholes connecting :/ |
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kaeza |
1 |
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andersje |
my youngest kid was playing with minecraft this weekend, and I have to say my impression of minecraft is: wow is it slow (compared to minetest) and WOW is it hard to connect to multiplayer servers. |
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andersje |
usually I find that the closed-source incarnation of a product type is easier to use. Not in this case. |
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kaeza |
john_minetest, I prefer 2 legit players to 400 griefers/assholes/annoying kids |
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Calinou |
I read "incarceration" |
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Calinou |
andersje: it's not much harder, there is just no public list |
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Calinou |
MC isn't that slow these days, especially with optifine |
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Calinou |
but it is getting slower than before :P |
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kaeza |
john_minetest, currently, there's 2 |
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kaeza |
well, 1, one timed out |
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Peacock |
kaeza: lol ironically, when my serverside geoip detects a BR, it messages him 'huehuehue' right before banning :P |
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kaeza |
Peacock, hah! |
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zat1 |
Peacock: is there a problem with brs? |
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kaeza |
!up kaeza.mooo.com |
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MinetestBot |
kaeza.mooo.com:30000 is up (208ms) |
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Peacock |
well *i* have a problem with BRs, dont know about other servers |
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zat1 |
What would it be your problem? just to know. |
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Peacock |
constant incessant griefing, speaking portuguese while obviously understanding english, etc. |
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andersje |
Calinou: I couldn't get the java client to connect to a multi-player server until linux at all. Had to reboot into win7 to get it going. |
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Peacock |
kaeza also thinking of pulling off public list |
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andersje |
Calinou: I was also getting about 5 fps in a GTX460, on a quad-core phenom, even in fullscreen mode. |
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Calinou |
works for me :P |
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Calinou |
disable compositing/desktop effects |
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Calinou |
were you using nouveau or the nvidia driver? |
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andersje |
nvidia driver |
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Calinou |
that's probably not intended then |
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zat1 |
Peacock: That you do not tolerate other languages is “understandableâ€, but saying that because of being BRs they are griefers is just plain discriminatory. |
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Calinou |
graphics card temperature is too high maybe |
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andersje |
it's moot now, since multiplayer works in windows, so the kid will be booting into win7 now |
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andersje |
no, it's in range. sub70C |
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andersje |
and this is a rig which routinely posts 30+ fps in minetest. |
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andersje |
I blame java+ubuntu |
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* andersje |
tends to blame java for all things |
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Calinou |
30 FPS on a 460? that's low |
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Peacock |
call it whatever the fuck you want lol i havent seen a single BR ip on my server that didn't grief |
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andersje |
30+ -- it never drops below 30 on that rig. |
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andersje |
it's a minimal little machine in need of an upgrade. quad-core phenom, gtx460, (or is it gt460)...acer slimline model |
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Calinou |
I never drop below 60 on a 570 |
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Calinou |
it's gtx460 |
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Calinou |
and I have AA, AF, view distance 128, 1920×1080 |
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andersje |
it may be a gt430 |
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zat1 |
Peacock: you are the one just trying to justify your ignorance. |
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andersje |
hold on, maybe my wife left the machine on, I'll check |
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andersje |
nah, she turned it off. |
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Peacock |
yeah ive seen that argument in other threads for other games lol |
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Peacock |
fact is, my server, my bandwidth, and i can take whatever steps i want to reduce my admin overhead |
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zat1 |
you dont say |
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Peacock |
beside, there are at least one or two brazilian servers, if thats how they like to play they should stick to it |
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babyface1031 |
john_minetest, as soon as the server catches up you should have interact |
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andersje |
Calinou: it's an asus ENGT430 -- geforce 430 -- one of the only cards I could find that didn't overtax the powersupply in that box |
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Calinou |
lol, 430 |
| 20:42 |
Calinou |
gtg, night :P |
| 20:43 |
zat1 |
Peacock: I don’t really care about your arrogant intolerant arguments, I don’t need more explanations, thanks. |
| 20:44 |
Peacock |
stay the eff off my server and you wont have to put up with it :-) |
| 20:45 |
zat1 |
you can be sure of that |
| 20:45 |
andersje |
wow, zat1. Why not just spin up your own server? |
| 20:45 |
andersje |
I mean, it's free. It's not worth getting upset about. |
| 20:46 |
zat1 |
andersje: I have my own server. |
| 20:46 |
zat1 |
And it is not an intolerant one ;) |
| 20:46 |
andersje |
so why do you care if you're on his? |
| 20:46 |
andersje |
oh, he's blocking brazilian IPs. |
| 20:46 |
andersje |
yeah, my mailserver dumps all email from brazil too. Too much spam. |
| 20:46 |
andersje |
taiwan gets dumped, too |
| 20:47 |
kaeza |
zat1, tell me again after you've been struck by a wave of 10 br users griefing all over the place :) |
| 20:47 |
zat1 |
wow I see many homophobic people around here |
| 20:47 |
PilzAdam |
zat1, Peacock is not ingorant at all; he just noticed that all connections from BR are griefers |
| 20:47 |
Peacock |
i worked in a convenience store for 3 years, and every time a hood got caught shoplifting, they bitched about racial profiling, so that bullshit wore thin with me a long time ago |
| 20:47 |
zat1 |
xenophobic |
| 20:47 |
zat1 |
damn corrector |
| 20:48 |
Peacock |
naw, xenophobic would be only allowing connections from Canada |
| 20:48 |
Peacock |
some of my best builders are german, asian and american |
| 20:48 |
andersje |
I'm not homophobic. |
| 20:48 |
andersje |
nor am I brazilianphobic |
| 20:48 |
andersje |
I have nothing against the people of brazil. |
| 20:48 |
kaeza |
zat1, it's not xenophobic, it's just trying to keep the server clean |
| 20:49 |
zat1 |
“Blocking all traffic from Brazil because all are griefersâ€, is xenophobic discrimination |
| 20:49 |
andersje |
*pfft* |
| 20:49 |
andersje |
I reject your argument |
| 20:49 |
PilzAdam |
zat1, no, its observaation |
| 20:49 |
PilzAdam |
-a |
| 20:49 |
zat1 |
really bad observation |
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| 20:49 |
zat1 |
the argument of the lazy admin |
| 20:49 |
Peacock |
it's xenophobic to notice every single connection from Brazil requires an active admin nearby? |
| 20:49 |
andersje |
dude, I don't allow ssh traffic from south america or asia, either |
| 20:50 |
zat1 |
Peacock: it is just your (and a couple others) opinion. |
| 20:50 |
andersje |
a) I have no authorized users there, b) too many brute force breakin attempts. |
| 20:50 |
andersje |
am I xenophobic because of that? |
| 20:50 |
Peacock |
an opinion can't be backed by facts, i got logs |
| 20:50 |
zat1 |
SSH is not a free protocol to play games |
| 20:50 |
PilzAdam |
zat1, what would you do if all the connections from one country to your server are griefers? |
| 20:50 |
zat1 |
Probably let the mods DO THEIR JOB? |
| 20:51 |
kaeza |
pfft |
| 20:51 |
PilzAdam |
so you need always people arround that can ban them |
| 20:51 |
PilzAdam |
you sir, have a lot of freetime |
| 20:51 |
zat1 |
So far all people from USA I have known are plain ignorant and dumb, not for that I reject to chat with an USAn when I meet them. |
| 20:51 |
Peacock |
yeah well i can't be watching brazilians 24/7, at least with the rest of my players i can make dinner instead of shutting down the server |
| 20:51 |
andersje |
zat1: if that's the case, I'd recommend you block chat traffic from the USA |
| 20:51 |
andersje |
I, for instance, don't talk with people from the Deep South |
| 20:52 |
andersje |
(e.g. Alabama) |
| 20:52 |
andersje |
I have too many cousins there. |
| 20:52 |
Peacock |
zat1 now that's what i'd call a generalization, one most of your fellow brazilians share, which is probably they dont have much respect for other servers and their admins |
| 20:53 |
zat1 |
fellow brazilian? |
| 20:53 |
zat1 |
fellow? |
| 20:53 |
andersje |
zat1: if it makes you feel any better, I banned my youngest son for a month once, because he was griefing too much. |
| 20:53 |
Peacock |
i figured the way youre taking this dicussion that you are one |
| 20:53 |
Peacock |
(or know some) |
| 20:53 |
zat1 |
It just shocks me to see so simple minded “admins†over here. |
| 20:54 |
zat1 |
Peacock: I have three good players that are Brazilian, in my server. |
| 20:54 |
Peacock |
yeah well, when we get paid to put up with this bullshit, we'll do it fulltime, until then, we don't put up with what we don't have to |
| 20:54 |
andersje |
some of the best BF3 players I've worked with are brazilian. I'd totally let them on a BF3 server I was running. |
| 20:55 |
andersje |
world of tanks, too |
| 20:55 |
Peacock |
3 good ones is already better than the 5 or 6 that show up at the same time on mine destroying everything in spawn |
| 20:55 |
* andersje |
migrates home |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
zat1, its not about the nationlity of the people that are behind the connections |
| 20:56 |
Peacock |
and legit players complain because absolutely everything has to be node-protected |
| 20:56 |
zat1 |
And I am Chilean, anyway... it just shocks me to see how many European/USAns think that South America and Asia are synonymous of spam/thieves/etc/nonculture. And I say USAns because America is the name of a continent, not a country. |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
its just a fact that all connections from BR to Peacock's server are griefers |
| 20:56 |
PilzAdam |
and "America" is not a name of a contintent; there are "North America" and "South America" |
| 20:57 |
kaeza |
PilzAdam, +1 |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
did i say south america? |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
kaeza's from south america and i wouldn't ban him |
| 20:57 |
Peacock |
two relatives in peru, one more in mexico |
| 20:58 |
PilzAdam |
zat1, I guess you already heard of proxies; its possible that the griefers are canadian and use brazilian proxies |
| 20:58 |
Peacock |
pilzadam apart from grog and uberi, i dont know any other canadians here :P |
| 20:58 |
Peacock |
MC tends to be more popular since you can play it on xbox |
| 20:59 |
Peacock |
though if they were proxies, would they geolocate to small towns in brazil? i'd think it be in the big cities |
| 20:59 |
zat1 |
PilzAdam: It is a name of a continent, the north part I can call it North America, the south part I can call it South America. The country was called The United States of America, which means it is inside America, and not that America belongs to them. The first time America was used to refer to a land was circa 1500, the first time spanish people needed to name the new continent, and only the south part was called America. Just that. |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
there is no contintent called "America" |
| 21:00 |
PilzAdam |
such thing doesnt exist |
| 21:00 |
zat1 |
Oh god... a little but of literature doesn't bite. |
| 21:01 |
Peacock |
if anything, America is a stand-in for USA, the continent is North America |
| 21:01 |
PilzAdam |
according to wikipedia, "America" refers usually to the USA or the landmass consisting of North and South America |
| 21:02 |
PilzAdam |
since "America" is not the name of a specific contintent, it is totally valid to call the USA america |
| 21:02 |
zat1 |
Yes, USAns like to call it Americas instead of America http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Americas |
| 21:02 |
Peacock |
heck my little corner of the continent went from being New France, to British North America, to finally North America (Can & US) |
| 21:03 |
PilzAdam |
but that isnt subject of the discussion |
| 21:03 |
zat1 |
But, just check where it links the link to Spanish (Español) language of that article. |
| 21:03 |
zat1 |
“América†|
| 21:03 |
PilzAdam |
we were talking about zat1 who thinks that rangebans are racism |
| 21:03 |
Peacock |
well i've had that argument chucked at me a few times over that lol |
| 21:04 |
Peacock |
its like accusing someone of being racist because they won't park their car in the Bronx |
| 21:05 |
zat1 |
Making fun of an argument using a stupid one, wont make you right, sorry. |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
it doesnt make me wrong either |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
I just wanted to bring you into a position to explain your point |
| 21:07 |
zat1 |
I did already, banning a whole country because you have decided, based on your narrow experience, that they are all *whatever* is just an ignorant and simple/lazy minded argument. |
| 21:07 |
Peacock |
because im North American and i should bend over and never learn :P |
| 21:08 |
PilzAdam |
you dont ban "a country", you can connections from a country |
| 21:08 |
Peacock |
define narrow experience, I geoip all incoming connections, have been for a month, a clear pattern emerged |
| 21:08 |
PilzAdam |
there is a difference in it |
| 21:09 |
zat1 |
Peacock: Narrow: Only yours and perhaps of some known people. |
| 21:09 |
Peacock |
you mean other server admins? |
| 21:09 |
Peacock |
cuz when i started dealing with the problem, they started appearing on kaeza's server instead |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
zat1, do you have any experience on the subject? |
| 21:10 |
kaeza |
I mean, being invaded by griefers that all come from certain location? |
| 21:11 |
zat1 |
kaeza: I have experience on sysadmining clusters of many servers (most emails), rather that gaming. |
| 21:11 |
PilzAdam |
that doesnt answer his question |
| 21:11 |
zat1 |
And when, for example, most of the spams originates from a country, I work on improving the filters, not on banning messages coming from that country. |
| 21:12 |
kaeza |
zat1, the first step on filtering is filtering all incoming traffic |
| 21:12 |
PilzAdam |
and what about locations where _only_ spam/griefing comes from? |
| 21:12 |
Peacock |
so what, you'd have be node protect everything because they can't read "NO GRIEF" |
| 21:12 |
Peacock |
*have me |
| 21:12 |
kaeza |
you then improve the filters to filter particular incoming traffic |
| 21:13 |
Peacock |
then all my other players suffer because i have to approve each area |
| 21:13 |
kaeza |
in this case, the "whole filter" is banning aconnections from a country |
| 21:13 |
kaeza |
-a |
| 21:13 |
thexyz |
just look at the serverlist |
| 21:14 |
zat1 |
Peacock: 1° there are no regions where people with legitimate messages dont exists but exists only computers who send mass spam. 2° not everybody understands what grief means (I did not in the beginning), and do not expect it either from people that doesn’t speak English. |
| 21:14 |
Peacock |
i for one, wont nail down every chair and coaster because certain gamers can't follow the rules, id rather just cut them out and keep it fun for everybody else |
| 21:14 |
thexyz |
#1 server: "Tiricopolis Brasil 1.1" #3 server: "DragonBornB ServerBR" |
| 21:15 |
Peacock |
zat1, im not talking about 1-time griefers, they come back multiple times day, every day, the same towns and ip ranges |
| 21:15 |
zat1 |
If you cannot give a message correctly to all the possible audience in *the Internet* it is probably fault of your media and not fault of the audience so I do not think you should punish the audience that DOES NOT SPEAK YOUR LANGUAGE only because they want to play. |
| 21:15 |
Peacock |
well you don't go on an english server if you can't understand the rules in english, duh |
| 21:16 |
zat1 |
That is what bans exists for |
| 21:16 |
zat1 |
but not rage bans based on location |
| 21:16 |
Peacock |
i dont see the difference if the end result is the same |
| 21:16 |
zat1 |
I am not really happy when I cannot visit certain web servers of idiots who thinks no legitimate web traffic originates from South America. |
| 21:16 |
thexyz |
I think this discussion is unhealthy and we should stop it. |
| 21:17 |
kaeza |
^ |
| 21:17 |
Peacock |
wether i ban every BR address after each grief or ban them all preemptively, it amounts to the same |
| 21:17 |
thexyz |
this is not related to Minetest in general so you can as well discuss this in private chat |
| 21:17 |
Peacock |
its going nowhere yeah |
| 21:17 |
zat1 |
Right thexyz |
| 21:19 |
Peacock |
!seen thefamilygrog66 |
| 21:19 |
MinetestBot |
Peacock: thefamilygrog66 was last seen at 2013-09-22 04:18:33 UTC on #minetest |
| 21:19 |
zat1 |
Just to leave it here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Waldseemuller_map_2.jpg |
| 21:20 |
Peacock |
shit and i just missed him on my server lol |
| 21:20 |
zat1 |
First time the name America was used to refer to the new continent... |
| 21:20 |
zat1 |
and what a fail of a continent shape |
| 21:22 |
Peacock |
Africa, China and Australia don't look quite right either |
| 21:22 |
zat1 |
Right, but America IS the worst |
| 21:22 |
zat1 |
looks like a piece of poop |
| 21:23 |
kaeza |
lel |
| 21:24 |
Peacock |
not entirely sure central Europe has two giant seas in it either |
| 21:25 |
Peacock |
and Japan seems a little big, if that is supposed to be Japan |
| 21:26 |
pitriss |
Peacock: I just want to express my support to you.. because I have simmilar expreience about brazilians from lot of games.. And to be not so generalizing, yes, I know 1 person from brasil who was great player of auteria |
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Peacock |
anyone who wants it : http://pastebin.com/NfwsJS7X |
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| 22:22 |
Peacock |
the port field in the menu? mine changes too :/ |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
I guess he means that the singleplayer port is randomly choosen |
| 22:23 |
VanessaE |
hi |
| 22:23 |
Peacock |
well even the server tab, i type 30001, then when i click on the map, it changes back to 30K |
| 22:23 |
Peacock |
thats how i get random people on my test maps lol |
| 22:24 |
Peacock |
howdy v |
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| 22:50 |
pitriss |
please is there any simple way (some mod etc) how to get basic info from mt server? I mean, number of connected players, max player cap, who is connected.. |
| 22:51 |
NekoGloop |
?server |
| 22:51 |
NekoGloop |
... gah, what's that command |
| 22:52 |
kaeza |
/status |
| 22:52 |
NekoGloop |
Eeh, I meant the mt server status command |
| 22:54 |
pitriss |
ah.. i meant from outside.. to use for monitoring purposes, showing on website.. sorry for confusion |
| 22:55 |
Peacock |
lol they wanna open up private drunk tanks in britain where you have to pay to get out - thats fucked up lol |
| 22:56 |
iqualfragile_ |
Peacock: yes it is, and its allso old news |
| 22:56 |
Peacock |
just made it's way to the AP now lol |
| 22:56 |
iqualfragile_ |
pitriss: no, i do not think there is any interface to get server statistics |
| 22:56 |
iqualfragile_ |
the only thing there is is the masterserver |
| 22:56 |
Peacock |
but what happens if you dont have the 400 pounds? do they keep you locked up? |
| 22:57 |
iqualfragile_ |
they cant |
| 22:57 |
iqualfragile_ |
they are not allowed to |
| 22:57 |
Peacock |
that would amount to debtors' prison basically |
| 22:57 |
iqualfragile_ |
(at least if the laws in gb are at least a litle bit simlar to german laws) |
| 22:58 |
pitriss |
iqualfragile_: ah.. and is there any simple way how to create own masterserver? is code somewehere on github? |
| 22:58 |
iqualfragile_ |
they are not the police, so they can not hold you |
| 22:58 |
iqualfragile_ |
pitriss: yes, the code is on github |
| 22:58 |
iqualfragile_ |
i think its in the minetest repository, serach for it |
| 22:58 |
Peacock |
heck even security guards here are limited in how much force theyre allowed to use |
| 22:59 |
Peacock |
though in Canada we're usually thankful if people walk home (if even on their hands and knees) rather than take the car |
| 22:59 |
iqualfragile_ |
pitriss: https://github.com/minetest/minetest/tree/master/util/master |
| 22:59 |
pitriss |
iqualfragile_: thanks:) i will look on it:) |
| 23:00 |
iqualfragile_ |
oh, you can get into serious trouble in germany if you drive drunk |
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| 23:00 |
Peacock |
here too, unless youre a diplomat |
| 23:00 |
iqualfragile_ |
(even thought we do not have speed limits and love to drink, we do not mix it ;)) |
| 23:00 |
Peacock |
heck with how much we freeze our asses off, we love to drink too lol but usually at home (can't even smoke in pubs anymore, alot of bars are dieing) |
| 23:01 |
Peacock |
*dying? |
| 23:01 |
NekoGloop |
dying, mhm |
| 23:01 |
Peacock |
(and i thought dying was the process of coloring fabric lol) |
| 23:02 |
iqualfragile_ |
yeah, confuses me, too |
| 23:02 |
iqualfragile_ |
its the same in germany (well te non-smoking thing) |
| 23:02 |
kaeza |
Peacock, Jebus dyed for our sins! |
| 23:02 |
Peacock |
next year they want to ban smoking on terraces/patios |
| 23:02 |
iqualfragile_ |
and i think its a good idea, because its saves the nonsmokers from poisoning |
| 23:02 |
iqualfragile_ |
but peoplo still drink their beers in bars |
| 23:03 |
Peacock |
i dont deny the health benefits, but i tend to think it's up to the business owner to decide what kind of clientele/business he/she wants |
| 23:03 |
Peacock |
here its kinda iffy, you can get a sixpack for 6$, or a single serving beer for 3-4$ in a bar, so guess what happens :P |
| 23:04 |
iqualfragile_ |
:D |
| 23:04 |
iqualfragile_ |
your beer is expensive |
| 23:04 |
Peacock |
fuck yeah, you dont wanna see what wine costs lol |
| 23:04 |
Peacock |
though to balance things out, weed is cheaper here than elsewhere lol |
| 23:05 |
Peacock |
(which doesn't do me much good anymore) |
| 23:05 |
iqualfragile_ |
we are allready angry if it costs more then 1,40€ per glass |
| 23:05 |
Peacock |
shit lol |
| 23:05 |
Peacock |
and in GB, they have a law about the size of a pint if im not mistaken |
| 23:06 |
iqualfragile_ |
in germany we have a "reinheitsgebot" which tells you what you are allowed to put into beer |
| 23:07 |
Peacock |
not sure bout all the laws here, but i know they have to put the % on the label |
| 23:07 |
Peacock |
in the states they dont put them on all the bottles, so we look like alocoholics everytime we shop there for booze and ask how much lol |
| 23:08 |
Peacock |
though, 4% beer does taste like pisswater lol |
| 23:08 |
iqualfragile_ |
so every traditional german beer consists of water, yeast, malt and hops |
| 23:09 |
iqualfragile_ |
and only that |
| 23:09 |
Peacock |
each one, or is it multiple choice? |
| 23:09 |
iqualfragile_ |
the differences in taste are created by the production methods and the % of those ingrediences |
| 23:10 |
iqualfragile_ |
you are free to use as many of those ingrediences as you want |
| 23:10 |
iqualfragile_ |
but you may not use anything else |
| 23:10 |
Peacock |
cuz we have all sorts of different beers, for a while i liked beer "sur lie" not sure the english term |
| 23:10 |
PilzAdam |
you are actually allowed to make beer of other things in germany now |
| 23:11 |
PilzAdam |
restricting the ingredients is dissalowed by the EU |
| 23:11 |
iqualfragile_ |
"traditional" |
| 23:11 |
PilzAdam |
oh right, thats different |
| 23:11 |
Peacock |
traditional yeah, thats like the French and cheese names i think |
| 23:11 |
Peacock |
or is it wine names/regions? |
| 23:11 |
PilzAdam |
the EU protects names of traditional food, e.g. Pizza Magharita |
| 23:12 |
iqualfragile_ |
the taste of beer is not proportional to the amount of alcohol it contains |
| 23:12 |
iqualfragile_ |
but proportional to the distance from cologne |
| 23:12 |
Peacock |
us it goes anywhere from 4 to 11% lol |
| 23:12 |
Peacock |
some of my favorites http://planete.qc.ca/nettie/images//bouffe/Verres01.jpg |
| 23:13 |
Peacock |
i used to have all the glasses too, until the wife touched them lol |
| 23:16 |
Peacock |
i think thats all microbrew anyway, the imports cost nearly twice as much |
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Peacock |
is there a map_meta example somewhere, im looking for the options to enable flolands |
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| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, editing map_meta is the wrong way |
| 23:52 |
Peacock |
well i checked out the mod, the post said flolands was builtin? |
| 23:53 |
PilzAdam |
they are in the indev mapgen |
| 23:53 |
Peacock |
ah lol |
| 23:53 |
PilzAdam |
you can set that in minetest.conf |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
but i only wanted it for one map though, will it affect all? |
| 23:54 |
iqualfragile_ |
yes |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
crap |
| 23:54 |
iqualfragile_ |
but you can turn it off before you load another map |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
so im better off with the mod then |
| 23:54 |
Peacock |
i thought i had to add flolands to mg_flags |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
no |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
it will only affect worlds that are created while the setting is set |
| 23:56 |
* iqualfragile_ |
is sorry for spreading false information |
| 23:56 |
PilzAdam |
to be more precise: worlds that are first started |
| 23:56 |
Peacock |
so i turn it on, create a map, and turn it off, and ill have one map with flolands and the other unaffected? |
| 23:56 |
PilzAdam |
yes |
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PilzAdam |
create and start at least once, then you can do whatever you want to the setting |
| 23:57 |
Peacock |
hm, allright thanks ill give that a shot |
| 23:57 |
* iqualfragile_ |
too |
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iqualfragile_ |
arsdragonfly: you there? |
| 23:58 |
kahrl |
hmmmm made a menu that makes setting mapgen params easier |
| 23:58 |
Peacock |
i also gambit's mockups |
| 23:59 |
iqualfragile_ |
i allso pizza |
| 23:59 |
Peacock |
though just to be clear, i can't add flolands to a pre-existing map then right? |
| 23:59 |
iqualfragile_ |
correct |
| 23:59 |
PilzAdam |
well, you can, but its not recommended |
| 23:59 |
iqualfragile_ |
well… you can… basicly if you hack around a bit |
| 23:59 |
Peacock |
hm :/ i wanted to add those to my server and use them for freebuild |
