| Time |
Nick |
Message |
| 00:00 |
iqualfragile_ |
and if you do not have high buildings |
| 00:00 |
PilzAdam |
I suggest you to not mess arround with map_meta |
| 00:00 |
Peacock |
thats why i was trying on a test map first heh |
| 00:00 |
Peacock |
i already know changing the seed makes the chunks not line up |
| 00:00 |
iqualfragile_ |
then you could just recreate your map using the same seed with floatlands |
| 00:01 |
PilzAdam |
you have to switch to indev mapgen to get the floatlands, but I dunno if you can disable the farlands |
| 00:01 |
PilzAdam |
ask proller |
| 00:01 |
iqualfragile_ |
copy everything above some height and paste it into your old map |
| 00:01 |
iqualfragile_ |
have backups ready! |
| 00:01 |
PilzAdam |
if you have v6 currently, and switch to indev without disabling farlands then it will screw up the map |
| 00:02 |
proller |
not very big screw |
| 00:02 |
Peacock |
might be safer all around to add floatloands mod and have it use vmanip |
| 00:02 |
proller |
just some flat edges |
| 00:02 |
PilzAdam |
proller, that is like the worst thing that can happen when editing map_meta |
| 00:03 |
proller |
and you can disable farlands by setting last two params to 1, 1 |
| 00:03 |
iqualfragile_ |
uhm… short guide on how to enable floatlands? |
| 00:03 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile_, mg_name = indev |
| 00:03 |
PilzAdam |
done |
| 00:03 |
proller |
was: mgindev_np_terrain_base = -4, 20, (250, 250, 250), 82341, 5, 0.6, 10, 10 |
| 00:03 |
iqualfragile_ |
oh, ok |
| 00:03 |
proller |
now: mgindev_np_terrain_base = -4, 20, (250, 250, 250), 82341, 5, 0.6, 1, 1 |
| 00:03 |
iqualfragile_ |
i thought you might need to add some more stuffs |
| 00:04 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, you can try what proller said |
| 00:04 |
proller |
and for other mapgen noise params too |
| 00:04 |
proller |
but better do it after map backup |
| 00:04 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, i.e. create a new world with mg_name = indev, copy the map_meta to your old world, change the seed to the old one, modify the noise as proller said |
| 00:05 |
Peacock |
i wonder if having water up to y=100 complicates things |
| 00:05 |
PilzAdam |
how do you set the water that high? |
| 00:05 |
iqualfragile_ |
estimated height of the lowest commonly occuring floatlands? |
| 00:05 |
Peacock |
using the oregen |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile_, changeable in minetest.conf, 500 by default |
| 00:06 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, I guess no problems then |
| 00:06 |
proller |
at 500 they rare |
| 00:07 |
proller |
but you can adjust it by noise params too |
| 00:07 |
iqualfragile_ |
i am at 600 right now, should i go higher? |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
iqualfragile_, higher -> more frequent |
| 00:07 |
proller |
and bigger |
| 00:07 |
iqualfragile_ |
i hope that too high -> less frequent? |
| 00:07 |
PilzAdam |
no, they are pretty common at 30000 |
| 00:08 |
iqualfragile_ |
ugh |
| 00:08 |
iqualfragile_ |
so the minetest world is more like a cave |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
go to proller's sky server |
| 00:08 |
iqualfragile_ |
oh, hey found one |
| 00:08 |
PilzAdam |
(or teleport to 30000) |
| 00:08 |
iqualfragile_ |
hello sweety |
| 00:08 |
Peacock |
i wonder what an all-floland map would look like (no hard ground level) |
| 00:08 |
iqualfragile_ |
at 300 |
| 00:09 |
iqualfragile_ |
well, it would basicly be some rocks floating in the air |
| 00:09 |
proller |
on sky near spawn they rare too |
| 00:09 |
proller |
but using secret portal... |
| 00:10 |
iqualfragile_ |
hmm… this one looks a bit cut off |
| 00:11 |
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| 00:12 |
iqualfragile_ |
http://mg.viewskew.com/u/iqualfragile/m/floatlandscut/ |
| 00:12 |
Peacock |
i guess paragen is newer/faster than moonrealm |
| 00:12 |
PilzAdam |
yea, that is a bug that needs to be fixed (by proller) |
| 00:13 |
Pilcrow |
figured out my luajit problem. the version 2.0.0b9 I was using was too old. after building the latest luajit 2.0.2 from source and recompiling minetest, nore's v7 mapgen mod works fine~ :) |
| 00:13 |
PilzAdam |
"nore's v7 mapgen" huh= |
| 00:13 |
PilzAdam |
*? |
| 00:13 |
Peacock |
v7? i thought it was lua mapgen |
| 00:14 |
Peacock |
(could almost use categories or tags to sort mods lol) |
| 00:15 |
Pilcrow |
pilz, nore made a lua mapgen mod for v7. that's what I was talking about. sorry if it was unclear. |
| 00:16 |
Peacock |
well if its a lua mapgen it doesn't matter which version of the default/buitin mapgen is used? |
| 00:16 |
* Peacock |
needs a flowchart |
| 00:16 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 00:16 |
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| 00:17 |
PilzAdam |
Pilcrow, can you point me to that mod? |
| 00:17 |
Pilcrow |
I don't know. I thought I was told it only works with v7. could be wrong though. |
| 00:17 |
Pilcrow |
just a sec |
| 00:17 |
PilzAdam |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7263 this one is Lua only |
| 00:17 |
PilzAdam |
has nothing to do with mgv7 |
| 00:18 |
Peacock |
mountains kinda look like cones or stretched spheres |
| 00:19 |
Pilcrow |
ok. thanks for clarifying. guess I was under the wrong impression. |
| 00:19 |
Pilcrow |
that's the one |
| 00:21 |
Pilcrow |
anyways, I couldn't use it as my minetest build was confused by the goto commands. someone told me to use luajit, but I already was, so I figured my luajit version was outdated. |
| 00:21 |
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| 00:22 |
PilzAdam |
goto is not in Lua 5.1 |
| 00:22 |
PilzAdam |
and Minetest uses Lua 5.1, so its incorrect to use it in Minetest mods |
| 00:22 |
Peacock |
goto's do cause problems across versions |
| 00:23 |
PilzAdam |
LuaJIT just took the goto from Lua 5.2 |
| 00:23 |
Peacock |
and bitwise operators, which you wont find in 5.1 either |
| 00:25 |
Pilcrow |
that makes sense. still, they were used in that mg mod, so I had trouble getting it to work. |
| 00:25 |
PilzAdam |
start a shitstorm at the mod thread that the mod doesnt work with Minetest then ;-) |
| 00:26 |
Peacock |
it would probably make sense to either make jit the default or update the lua part, or at least have mods come with some sort of warning about which version they need to run on |
| 00:26 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, no, its defined to use 5.1 |
| 00:26 |
PilzAdam |
LuaJIT is fully compatible with 5.1 |
| 00:27 |
Peacock |
yeah but its got some parts of 5.2, so if someone writes a mod using those functions, and the user only has vanilla 5.1, thinks get, confusing lol |
| 00:27 |
Peacock |
*things not thinks |
| 00:27 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 00:27 |
PilzAdam |
the mod author is wrong |
| 00:28 |
Peacock |
i dont get why people can't use functions instead of gotos lol |
| 00:28 |
PilzAdam |
because basic |
| 00:28 |
[0gb_us] |
Functions can even be set aside in other files for clarity. |
| 00:31 |
Peacock |
im old enough to remember learning with gotos lol prolly why it feels mesozoic to me lol |
| 00:31 |
Pilcrow |
I was a qbasic kid ;) |
| 00:31 |
* PilzAdam |
feels surrounded by old men |
| 00:32 |
Pilcrow |
nope, just poor. I'm 26 now. :P |
| 00:33 |
Peacock |
ill be pushing 30 soon lol |
| 00:34 |
PilzAdam |
see? old men all arround |
| 00:34 |
Pilcrow |
my family's first computer was an old win95 machine that I often booted into DOS from a floppy to play gorrilla and nibbles. eventually I got curious. then I taught myself to program, by experimentation. |
| 00:34 |
Peacock |
its kinda funny that there seems to be as many old people playing this game than kids lol |
| 00:34 |
Peacock |
win 95? lucky |
| 00:35 |
Peacock |
ours was this: http://www.laptopjoy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/history-of-laptops.jpg |
| 00:35 |
Peacock |
and running win 3.11 on it was like running ios7 on an old iphone today lol |
| 00:36 |
Pilcrow |
that was when I was in like 8th grade though. before that we borrowed a 486 with 3.11 on it from my cousin. it was his "old" machine. :P |
| 00:37 |
Pilcrow |
lol, peacock, what IS that? :P |
| 00:37 |
Peacock |
a museum piece |
| 00:37 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 00:38 |
Peacock |
shoulda held onto it, coulda gotten our money back from a museum surely lol |
| 00:38 |
Pilcrow |
lol |
| 00:38 |
Peacock |
i dont know what 3-4K in 1980's dollars would be today |
| 00:39 |
Pilcrow |
I still have a commodore VIC-20 I found at a garage sale for $10. not worth much, but a noteworthy little machine~ :P |
| 00:40 |
Peacock |
http://www.dosgames.com/keen1.gif |
| 00:42 |
Pilcrow |
lol, commander keen~ |
| 00:45 |
Pilcrow |
so PilzAdam, what's your 'nerd beginnings' story? :P |
| 00:46 |
PilzAdam |
http://youtu.be/SPQUn52PIfc |
| 00:46 |
PilzAdam |
at school |
| 00:46 |
PilzAdam |
its a hamster that runs Java |
| 00:47 |
PilzAdam |
you can solve mazes and stuff |
| 00:47 |
PilzAdam |
though, my teachers were unable to teach programming correctly, so I learned most of it in the internet |
| 00:48 |
PilzAdam |
thats 4-5 years ago |
| 00:50 |
Pilcrow |
pretty interesting. yeah, I totally understand learning most of it on the internet. the only *conventional* computer programming course I ever took, I failed horribly... xD |
| 00:51 |
Peacock |
http://www.mobygames.com/images/shots/l/12321-avoid-the-noid-dos-screenshot-the-noid-ega-s.gif |
| 00:52 |
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| 00:54 |
Pilcrow |
heh, gotta love those old EGA colors... someone should do a minetest EGA texture pack... @_@ |
| 01:22 |
zat1 |
Someone knows how different Minecraft is from Minetest? (never player Minecraft) |
| 01:23 |
PilzAdam |
42 different |
| 01:23 |
PilzAdam |
I guess you need to be more specific |
| 01:24 |
zat1 |
Items, resources, methods to get stuff (crafting, cooking), monsters, etc... |
| 01:25 |
PilzAdam |
what Minecraft version? |
| 01:35 |
PilzAdam |
bye |
| 01:35 |
Pelayo |
i'd say minetest is similar to minecraft alpha |
| 01:48 |
zat1 |
What would Minetest “lack†then? |
| 01:59 |
kahrl |
a DRM launcher |
| 01:59 |
VanessaE |
imho minetest really doesn't lack much, as an engine |
| 02:00 |
VanessaE |
as a game, e.g. minetest_game, well, what it lacks depends on what you want to do. |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
bugfixes perhaps lol |
| 02:00 |
Peacock |
(lagspikes on join, allocating player ids, people being transported to nirvana, etc.) |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
small nodeboxes flicker, the sky/horizon flickers u/g |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
u/g |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
? |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
under ground |
| 02:01 |
VanessaE |
oh |
| 02:01 |
Peacock |
though over ground its parts of the map that flicker |
| 02:02 |
Peacock |
and since 0.4.7 i get a hundred server anounce timeout warnings per day :P |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
texture_alpha, as well |
| 02:04 |
Peacock |
i cant remember them all :P and everyone has their own list of issues |
| 02:05 |
VanessaE |
have you filed github issues for any of these? |
| 02:06 |
Peacock |
there are either issues, threads or it's been discussed openly |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
well the devs would say they need to be on github |
| 02:07 |
VanessaE |
(though as we've seen, that's not always 100% necessary) |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
well :P it either gets filed as obscure or you get a "works form (tm)" |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
*works for me(tm) |
| 02:08 |
Peacock |
which is why i dont press the issues regularly :P |
| 02:09 |
VanessaE |
well everyone here knows I don't give up on stuff very easily, and in particular that I don't hold my opinions at bay when something just doesn't fucking work right ;) |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
(and then I come up with backtraces, test cases, etc. and everyone goes from "well, it works for me" to "wtf? well, it's too hard to fix right now" :P |
| 02:10 |
Peacock |
3/10 of the issues marked obscure are yours :P |
| 02:10 |
VanessaE |
exactly :) |
| 02:11 |
Peacock |
this one ain't young either: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5301 |
| 02:12 |
Peacock |
and even though you say bugs should be filed on github, there's a stickied topic by PA explaining how to post bug reports on the forums :P |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
I think that's for mod bugs |
| 02:13 |
VanessaE |
not engine bugs |
| 02:13 |
Peacock |
well if i couldn't guess that, i doubt anyone else is either :P |
| 02:14 |
Peacock |
anyways, i dont expect all the bugs to be fixed overnight, but i wouldn't exactly call MT perfect/complete either :P |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?labels=&milestone=1&page=1&state=open |
| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
in theory, most of those ^^^^ will be fixed before 0.4.8 |
| 02:15 |
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| 02:15 |
VanessaE |
(allowing for the previously-discussed-in-dev problem of way too many new ones suddenly being added without reason recently) |
| 02:16 |
Peacock |
thats kinda what i dont get, "rework formspecs" the formspecs aren't broken buggy, you'd think there'd be more urgent stuff :P |
| 02:17 |
Peacock |
*broken or ... |
| 02:17 |
kahrl |
it's a bad title |
| 02:17 |
kahrl |
should be called "allow changing colors of textlists" or something like that |
| 02:17 |
Peacock |
that or a description he |
| 02:17 |
Peacock |
*heh |
| 02:18 |
kahrl |
er s/textlists/inventory lists/ |
| 02:18 |
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| 02:18 |
Peacock |
not sure what wingsuit does lol |
| 02:18 |
dafull97 |
hey is anyone here good with minetest troubleshooting? |
| 02:19 |
VanessaE |
depends, what's wrong? |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
is your computer plugged in? |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
Peacock: Super Mario Bros. when you jump, you can turn sideways in the air and direct your landing. |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
(just kidding :P) |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
I think the wingsuit is the same idea. |
| 02:20 |
VanessaE |
just over a longer fall distance |
| 02:20 |
Peacock |
ahh okay, to me wingsuit sounds like a batman suit or something like that lol |
| 02:21 |
VanessaE |
to me, a wingsuit is as seen in Transformers 3. Doubt minetest will go to quite the extent shown there. |
| 02:21 |
Peacock |
ugh, transformers, those movies are getting progressively worse lol |
| 02:22 |
Peacock |
i like the 85/86 version, wish they had done that in live action |
| 02:22 |
dafull97 |
VanessE if i try to connect to a server other than my own(still remote, it is a VPS) it crashes upon connecting |
| 02:22 |
Peacock |
Ooo liquid range will be fixed (no more air pockets in my ocean world) |
| 02:23 |
VanessaE |
dafull97: have you checked your debug.txt to see the cause of the crash? |
| 02:23 |
dafull97 |
actually, no :D forgot about that, still new to minetest |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
delete it, reproduce the crash, and pastebin the last 50 or so lines. |
| 02:24 |
VanessaE |
give us the link to the paste. |
| 02:24 |
Peacock |
tho youre right v, there do seem to be alot of milestone thingies lol |
| 02:25 |
Peacock |
the paste: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9d/Toothpaste.jpg |
| 02:25 |
VanessaE |
eh.... |
| 02:25 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 02:28 |
dafull97 |
VanessaE: Thanks, im working on it now... |
| 02:29 |
dafull97 |
how long does it take to connect? (LandRush Server) |
| 02:29 |
VanessaE |
depends on the server, but usually only several seconds if your cache is still full |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
(an empty cache can take several minutes to fill) |
| 02:30 |
VanessaE |
I'd think landrush would be pretty quick |
| 02:31 |
dafull97 |
well, i connected last night... took about 5 mins, and then now when i load it crashes... working on the debug file |
| 02:31 |
dafull97 |
maybe error in cache? |
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| 02:32 |
VanessaE |
hard to say |
| 02:33 |
dafull97 |
ok, well working on debugs... still loading :( |
| 02:35 |
dafull97 |
VannessaE you live in NC??? :D |
| 02:35 |
dafull97 |
i always wanted to live their |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
she lives theyre yes |
| 02:36 |
Peacock |
:P |
| 02:36 |
* [0gb_us] |
thinks of content_nc in Minetest's code, and wonders if VanessaE lives at a poptart cat |
| 02:36 |
dafull97 |
im jking, i live their too |
| 02:36 |
dafull97 |
haha |
| 02:36 |
VanessaE |
heh |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
no, but the imagery used for poptart cats in HDX does come from a cat I used to have :) |
| 02:37 |
dafull97 |
Peacock, you live in Germeny? |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
is that close enough? ;) |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
naw, Khanada |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
dafull97: yes. Waynesville, NC to be exact. |
| 02:37 |
Peacock |
Wayne's world, party time, excellent! |
| 02:37 |
VanessaE |
there* |
| 02:37 |
dafull97 |
nope, haha close |
| 02:37 |
[0gb_us] |
Heay, that's probably as close as it could get. |
| 02:37 |
[0gb_us] |
*Yeah |
| 02:38 |
dafull97 |
i live in sanford, nc |
| 02:38 |
dafull97 |
hahaha |
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| 02:38 |
Peacock |
sanford, why does that ring a bell? |
| 02:38 |
dafull97 |
idk? haha |
| 02:39 |
Peacock |
in the news lately? |
| 02:39 |
dafull97 |
um, maybe? |
| 02:39 |
dafull97 |
ha |
| 02:40 |
dafull97 |
vannessaE: http://pastebin.com/k1ieFaig |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
access violation!? |
| 02:40 |
dafull97 |
um, yea? |
| 02:40 |
dafull97 |
whats it mean? |
| 02:40 |
Peacock |
aaah http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/09/20/2151231/usaf-almost-nuked-north-carolina-in-1961-declassified-document |
| 02:40 |
VanessaE |
usually that means something like the program is written for a different architecture than what you're using |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
or maybe you don't have enough RAM? |
| 02:41 |
dafull97 |
hmm, where is cache? i will reset... i was palying fine last night... and i can connect to my own VPS Minetest server |
| 02:41 |
Peacock |
http://memepics.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/upgraded-ram.jpg |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
dafull97: in your minetest folder. |
| 02:41 |
dafull97 |
hahaha @ Peacock |
| 02:41 |
VanessaE |
minetest-blahblah/cache or /home/yourname/.minetest/cache |
| 02:42 |
dafull97 |
im on windows, hah |
| 02:42 |
Peacock |
in that case, try minetest-blabla/cache |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
just find your minetest folder, cache is in there. |
| 02:42 |
VanessaE |
also, try a different build. |
| 02:42 |
Peacock |
if only cash was in there :( |
| 02:43 |
dafull97 |
why differnat build? |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
sfan5, PilzAdam, BlockMen, Fess, maybe thexyz still has them, etc. |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
different* |
| 02:43 |
VanessaE |
because sometimes it's just a matter of what's compiled into yours, versus what your hardware is actually capable of |
| 02:44 |
dafull97 |
ohh, k |
| 02:44 |
dafull97 |
i heard of PhilzAdam i think |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
how much RAM does your box have? |
| 02:44 |
* [0gb_us] |
hates his new music player |
| 02:44 |
VanessaE |
PilzAdam* |
| 02:44 |
dafull97 |
2.00GB |
| 02:45 |
Peacock |
hehe, FizzAdam |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
I'd think 2 GB would be enough. Using any special texture packs? |
| 02:45 |
dafull97 |
nope, defaults... like i said i can connect to my own... may be cache... reconnecting now |
| 02:45 |
VanessaE |
hm |
| 02:46 |
Peacock |
must be some server/client compat. thing |
| 02:47 |
dafull97 |
i deleted all cache and retrying... hope it is that simple :D |
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| 02:51 |
VanessaE |
hopefully that works |
| 02:52 |
VanessaE |
but it begs the question, why does it error-out like that to begin with |
| 02:53 |
STHGOM |
How soon is minetest 0.4.8 going to be released? |
| 02:53 |
dafull97 |
yea, true... i have no idea that is why i came here to help... it gave me a C++ Runtime error before it quit this time |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
Soonâ„¢ |
| 02:53 |
VanessaE |
just C++ runtime error? |
| 02:53 |
dafull97 |
but it is still loading... im talking about the recent debug log i gave you |
| 02:54 |
Peacock |
Raptureâ„¢ |
| 02:54 |
dafull97 |
with that one it gave me that |
| 02:54 |
VanessaE |
oh ok |
| 02:54 |
Peacock |
(jk) |
| 02:54 |
STHGOM |
It was going to be released soon a month ago... |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
so were much closer to Soonâ„¢ now than we were a month ago :P |
| 02:55 |
[0gb_us] |
Soon is relative. Soonâ„¢ could be any time in the next decade. |
| 02:55 |
STHGOM |
ok :D |
| 02:55 |
Peacock |
Soonâ„¢ * pi / sqrt(lightspeed) |
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[0gb_us] |
Or it might not even be this decade. I don't even know. |
| 02:56 |
STHGOM |
Bye |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
STHGOM: help fix these and maybe... https://github.com/minetest/minetest/issues?labels=&milestone=1&page=1&state=open |
| 02:56 |
[0gb_us] |
Bye. |
| 02:56 |
VanessaE |
that would help speed up the release. |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
damn it. |
| 02:57 |
Peacock |
he saw all the milestones and ran away :P haha |
| 02:57 |
VanessaE |
lol |
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dafull97 |
C++ Runtime error |
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dafull97 |
pure virtual function call |
| 02:58 |
dafull97 |
R6025 |
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Peacock |
dunno what version of windows you gots, have you tried different compatibility mode settings? |
| 02:59 |
dafull97 |
i have windows 8, running windows XP Service pack 3 |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
um |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
so which is it? lol |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
you can't be running 'windows xp service pack 3" if you're running windows 8 |
| 02:59 |
Peacock |
lol |
| 02:59 |
VanessaE |
unless you're doing this in a virtual machine |
| 03:00 |
VanessaE |
(not a VPS, a virtual machine) |
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Peacock |
im running Linux Mac OS X ;) |
| 03:00 |
dafull97 |
running Windows XP Service pack 3 in compatibility |
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[0gb_us] |
With VirtualBox, you can. Not that I'd recommend running either of those systems. |
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dafull97 |
no i have my server on a VPS, |
| 03:00 |
dafull97 |
i have Windows 8 on my computer |
| 03:00 |
Peacock |
with SP3 on top? |
| 03:01 |
dafull97 |
and running this with compatibility in windows xp service pack 3 |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
hmm |
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VanessaE |
when you connect to someone else's server, all that matters is what you run on your home PC where the client is running |
| 03:01 |
Peacock |
allright, vanessa, you get the straight-jacket, ill get the chloroform |
| 03:02 |
Peacock |
what happens with the other compat settings? |
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dafull97 |
im will try re-install, and i know that my vps has nothing to do with this... i was just clearing things up... |
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dafull97 |
@peacock it was working fine last night and this afternoon. just not wanting to work now... going to look at them |
| 03:04 |
Peacock |
well what did you do since then? |
| 03:04 |
Peacock |
system updates, update MT, ? |
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[0gb_us] |
GitHub is scaring me. "Are you sure you don't want to just downgrade your account to a FREE account? We won't charge your credit card anymore." I thought I was already using a free account. |
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Peacock |
lol |
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VanessaE |
[0gb_us]: weird |
| 03:04 |
Peacock |
with how many times GH gets DDOS'd and hacked, i wouldn't trust them with a CC |
| 03:05 |
[0gb_us] |
GitHub better not be charging me. If I find GitHub charges, I WILL dispute them. |
| 03:05 |
Peacock |
did you give them a CC #? |
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[0gb_us] |
I didn't give them a credit card number, no. |
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dafull97 |
it was running in windows 7 compat, hmm... |
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dafull97 |
maye that the prob... but i dont think it is |
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dafull97 |
maybe* |
| 03:06 |
Peacock |
well not sure about US law but im pretty sure they can't start charging you shit unless you consent to it first |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
that is correct |
| 03:06 |
VanessaE |
it would be considered 'credit card fraud' here if they did. |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
otherwise can you imagine the scams lol |
| 03:07 |
VanessaE |
plus if he doesn't give a CC number it makes it 10x worse :) |
| 03:07 |
Peacock |
well good luck collecting in that case lol |
| 03:08 |
Peacock |
i dont even trust legitimate companies with "prepayment" options, i send checks, by horse and buggy |
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Peacock |
(ok the last bit is horseshit, but i do send cheques) |
| 03:09 |
Peacock |
at least with cheques you got a papertrail and bank records |
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[0gb_us] |
I don't like checks myself. I prefer cash or cards. |
| 03:11 |
[0gb_us] |
Cash is my favorite, but I've been using cards more lately to try to improve my credit score. |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
cash for small items ok |
| 03:11 |
Peacock |
CC's is mortgaging paycheques |
| 03:12 |
Peacock |
with variable limits and rates on interest, thx but no thx lol |
| 03:12 |
[0gb_us] |
I use my credit cards similarly to debit cards: I only spend what I already have. |
| 03:12 |
[0gb_us] |
That way, there are no fees. |
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Peacock |
thats why i stick to cash and cheques lol can't spend what i dont have, and it forces me to save instead of relying on credit for emergencies |
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[0gb_us] |
The limit issue is an issue though. |
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dafull97 |
question to all, to test your knowlege of computers... ready? |
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[0gb_us] |
You can write a bad check as easily as make a payment with a card that you can't cover. Checks don't help you in that regard. |
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Peacock |
well i dont write bad cheques :P |
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[0gb_us] |
And I don't make payments with the card that I can't pay right away. |
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Peacock |
card on the other hand, you miss a payment, your rate goes up |
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[0gb_us] |
My payments are set to auto-withdraw. |
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[0gb_us] |
No missed payments ever. |
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[0gb_us] |
dafull97, what's your question? |
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Peacock |
yeah i dont go for that automatic bullshit either, a few months ago my ISP started helping themselves to double and triple the amounts |
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Peacock |
(hence my need of papertrails now lol) |
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dafull97 |
What is the differance between C, and C++ |
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Peacock |
the ++ |
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[0gb_us] |
Don't the automatic payments leave a paper trail? |
| 03:17 |
[0gb_us] |
C++ is messier. |
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dafull97 |
sort of.. and peacock, hahaha |
| 03:17 |
Peacock |
they leave an electronic trail, but once the company has taken way too much, good luck getting it back |
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dafull97 |
make me laugh(in a good way) |
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dafull97 |
what does C++ have that C doesn't? |
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[0gb_us] |
Stealling three times the actual fee is illegal though. You can take them to court for fraud, as VanessaE said. |
| 03:19 |
[0gb_us] |
More options for object orientation, overloading, et cetera? |
| 03:19 |
Peacock |
you still have to hire representation, how will you do that if your utility just took you the cleaners? |
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dafull97 |
nice 0gb_us you know programming? |
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Peacock |
and even then the CDN system takes at min. months, if not years |
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[0gb_us] |
I don't know C or C++, but I do program a little. |
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[0gb_us] |
Not in those languages. |
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dafull97 |
i know just a tiny C++ |
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dafull97 |
what languges? |
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[0gb_us] |
You can dispute the charges with the card company. |
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Peacock |
i wish i had the energy for all these remedies, but its much simpler to write a cheque for the proper amount :P |
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[0gb_us] |
I forget all what languages. I always leave some out. PHP, JavaScript, sh, Lua, Python, Java, and maybe some others. |
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Peacock |
i tend to *lose my cool* speaking to reps over the phone lol |
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[0gb_us] |
Keeping track of the checks is something I don't have the time or energy for. I guess to each their own. |
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[0gb_us] |
For me, a single check is a pain in the bett. |
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Peacock |
never heard of carbon copies? :P |
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[0gb_us] |
*butt |
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[0gb_us] |
Carbon copies don't make it better. The issue is that they could be deposited any time in the future. There is no time when I can "reset" back to the bank's number, so to speak. |
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Peacock |
though youre right about one thing, i had to accuse them of billing fraud before they backed off on 400$ of charges lol |
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dafull97 |
nice, i know batch, sh, python, little ruby, little perl, little php, html, some javascript, and maybe 1 or two im forgetting im tired haha |
| 03:24 |
Peacock |
though the whole time they kept trying to get a CC number (so they could just take the money) |
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[0gb_us] |
With card charges, I see the charge right away, and paper money's value this way is obvious. |
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[0gb_us] |
HTML isn't a programming language. But if you want to count that, I also know XHTML, XML, and CSS. |
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dafull97 |
yea, alot of people dont... i just include it.. i know a little XML... barely used |
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[0gb_us] |
I tried Ruby, but it wasn't for me. Then again, neither is Java. |
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dafull97 |
same here... python is best for me |
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[0gb_us] |
A lot of people don't what? |
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[0gb_us] |
I can't say I LIKE Python, but it's easy to use. |
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dafull97 |
alot of people dont include html as a programming language |
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[0gb_us] |
HTML ISN'T a programming language. It's a markup language. There is a huge difference in how programming languages and markup languages function. |
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[0gb_us] |
Anyone calling HTML a programming language is, simply put, wrong. |
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dafull97 |
yes, true... like i said i just include it... :) |
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[0gb_us] |
I include it if asked about languages, but I don't include it if asked about programming languages. Or rather, I include/exclude XHTML. I never say I know HTML. |
| 03:32 |
dafull97 |
yes... HTML is a markup language... one good thing about knowing how that kind of stuff works, is that these 8 year old "hackers" going blow computers up hahah |
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dafull97 |
makes me laugh hard |
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[0gb_us] |
I wonder what CSS is though. I know it's not a programming language, but it doesn't seem much like a markup language; it contains no structure definitions. |
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NekoGloop |
[0gb_us], scripting |
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[0gb_us] |
CSS doesn't seem like a scripting language either. Scripting is a subset of programming. Are you sure on that, or just guessing? If you're sure, I'll take your word for it. |
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thexyz |
stylesheet language |
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[0gb_us] |
So style sheets get their own category of languages? I suppose that makes sense, they don't seem to fit into any other category. |
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[0gb_us] |
Interesting ... content_mapnode.cpp refers to a "default:coalstone", but minetest_game contains no such node. |
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NekoGloop |
It's Client Side Scripting. Of course it's a scripting language. |
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[0gb_us] |
CSS is Cascading Style Sheets. Or at least, the CSS I'm talking about is. |
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[0gb_us] |
I'm talking about the CSS used to style web pages. |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Punctuation Day! :-D |
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[0gb_us] |
Awesome! I had no idea such a day existed, but I do understand the importance of punctuation, and I wish more people used it. |
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blaaaaargh |
if punctuation didnt exist we would write like this it looks silly and is totally uncomprehensible see what I mean |
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[0gb_us] |
It's not silly when people are too lazy to use punctuation, it's just aggravatingly hard to read. |
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blaaaaargh |
http://the100meterscroll.com/ |
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[0gb_us] |
Hmm. kaeza is everywhere. You never know what user is actually kaeza in disguise. |
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kaeza |
:DDD |
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[0gb_us] |
Usually if there is a new random nick, it turns out to be you a few seconds later. |
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kaeza |
I have this only one, diemartin, and blaaaaargh. |
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[0gb_us] |
I'm thinking about changing my nick to "us`0gb". |
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[0gb_us] |
Maybe I'm thinking of someone else then .... |
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VanessaE |
zero_gb_dot_us :-) |
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[0gb_us] |
What about when the actual zerogb.us shows up though? Or zero-gb-dot.us? |
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kaeza |
www.dotcom.com |
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VanessaE |
register them all? :) |
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kaeza |
lol that one exists :P |
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[0gb_us] |
THere's a www.dot.tk and I think there's a dot.free. |
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kaeza |
oh it's a registrar |
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[0gb_us] |
Register them all? Like I have the money ... I'm even thinking about dropping my other name (zerogigabytes.com) to save some cash. |
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kaeza |
I expected something in the veins of downloadmoreram.com |
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VanessaE |
I meant the IRC nicks, silly :) |
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[0gb_us] |
If only downloading RAM were an option ... But then hardware would take up disk space, and as the hard drive is hardware, it would be recursive. |
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kaeza |
lol downloadmorecores.com |
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[0gb_us] |
When I discuss the "real zerogb.us", I mean whoever registers zerogb.us in DNS. To use that name without owning it would make me an impostor. You kave no idea what it's like to have OCD ... I spent several hours trying to create a puny code-like system for encoding node names yesterday ... I was at work and had nothing else to think about while doing my mindless work, but still. The point is that the "zero_gb_dot_us" name can't make it past my OCD u |
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[0gb_us] |
nless I actually own that name in DNS. And it probably can't even make it if I did own it. |
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[0gb_us] |
The best part of using an FQDN as a user name is that it is by definition unique to me. There are a million people who use names based on hobbies and whatnot, but no one will use my domain name but me unless they are specifically impersonating me. Made up domains don't have that quality. |
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[0gb_us] |
That link doesn't even fake allowing you to download cores the way the RAM site does. It just sells AMD laptops. |
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[0gb_us] |
I already have an AMD laptop, and I'm not all that happy with it. I think I'll go for a Think Penguin, once I have money, or another second-hand laptop if I need a replacement before I have money. |
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kaeza |
<!-- mwahahaha --> |
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JamesTai1 |
</evil_laugh> |
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* JamesTai1 |
sighs |
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JamesTait |
In other news: http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/nouveau/2013-September/014480.html |
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kaeza |
that looks like good news |
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JamesTait |
It could well be. |
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JamesTait |
Reason for hope, at least. |
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arsdragonfly |
!seen iqualfragile |
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MinetestBot |
arsdragonfly: iqualfragile was last seen at 2013-09-23 00:29:44 UTC on #minetest |
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arsdragonfly |
MinetestBot: tell him when he's around that all the RandomMessages mod archives I uploaded are the same? I came across some errors so I thought it wasn't working and uploaded it several times :P |
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arsdragonfly |
Since you understands stfu you should have got what I said lol |
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IceCraft |
hi |
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deltib |
hello |
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rubenwardy |
Hi all |
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arsdragonfly |
Hi |
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kaeza |
useless stuff: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111801#p111801 |
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kaeza |
(read: I was bored) |
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kaeza |
feel free to disregard if another mod already provides such functionality |
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PilzAdam |
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Jordach |
afternoon ladies |
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STHGOM |
Hullo kaeza |
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* Jordach |
throws a kitten at kaeza |
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kaeza |
hi STHGOM |
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kaeza |
sup Jordach |
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* kaeza |
is testing e17 |
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kaeza |
notbad.jpg |
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Jordach |
e17? dafuq is that |
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kaeza |
enlightenment |
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kaeza |
a WM |
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kaeza |
well this sucks actually |
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thexyz |
lol |
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thexyz |
it's designed for fridges |
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kaeza |
seems so :/ |
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kaeza |
brb |
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STHGOM |
WB :D |
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kaeza |
thx :) |
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kaeza |
back to Xfce |
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kaeza |
none of the WM/DEs I have fully convinces me |
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kaeza |
either too bloated or too light :/ |
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kaeza |
and too lazy to set it up properly |
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andersje |
kaeza: yeah. fluxbox/openbox handles 75% of my needs. win7 the other 25%. :/ |
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NakedFury |
try steamOS when it comes out |
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Pelayo |
I'm happy with Mate |
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kaeza |
this would be nice if it actually displayed the right chars in the console: http://sourceforge.net/projects/twin/ |
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andersje |
I'm looking forward to SteamOS, but mythbuntu still doesn't always like my HD/HomeRun thingie |
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andersje |
so, the HTPC runs win7+media center to record shows |
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Jordach |
Media Center is good when used right |
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Jordach |
the PS3 / XBOX can stream from it |
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Jordach |
Linux (with the right software) can too |
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NakedFury |
whats been going on in the minetest world? |
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Jordach |
yay - made toy variants of my weapons |
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werwerwer_ |
Anybody! In technic mode, is it supposed to be that cromium is more rare than uranium? Or it's not so rare and I'm missing something? |
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* Jordach |
pokes VanessaE |
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Jordach |
i see your ass is out of bed |
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thexyz |
kaeza: what's your problem with xfce? |
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thexyz |
andersje: consider xbmc |
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kaeza |
thexyz, no problems really |
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kaeza |
I should have said "none of the other..." |
| 16:36 |
kaeza |
just the usual window shopping :P |
| 16:38 |
FreeFull |
kaeza: You'd hate the WM I am using right now |
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* Jordach |
pokes sfan5 |
| 16:40 |
Jordach |
they fixed #3 |
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Dafull97 |
who is here? |
| 17:05 |
NakedFury |
I am |
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* john_minetest |
is, too |
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thefamilygrog66 |
howdy folks |
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thefamilygrog66 |
spam: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111760#p111760 |
| 17:10 |
Calinou |
done |
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Dafull97 |
Nakedfury you still here? |
| 17:13 |
NakedFury |
yeah |
| 17:13 |
NakedFury |
playing offensive combat and reading chat |
| 17:13 |
Dafull97 |
cool, you own a server? |
| 17:13 |
NakedFury |
no |
| 17:13 |
Dafull97 |
oh, not een on Minetest? |
| 17:13 |
Dafull97 |
even* |
| 17:14 |
NakedFury |
I play on others some times but school has me very damn occupied since it started |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
hi NakedFury |
| 17:14 |
Calinou |
long time no see :P |
| 17:14 |
Dafull97 |
yea, me too... i get like 3 hors to myself a night haha |
| 17:14 |
NakedFury |
we finished the first project yesterday and tomorrow we start the next project. |
| 17:15 |
Dafull97 |
damn |
| 17:15 |
Dafull97 |
what grade? |
| 17:15 |
NakedFury |
architect school second year |
| 17:15 |
Calinou |
3 hours sleep must suck |
| 17:17 |
NakedFury |
we are gonna start another 1/4 scale model tomorrow so it will be intense computer design so later we use the schools laser machine to cut the parts and then waste a full awesome day gluing then together |
| 17:18 |
Jordach |
NakedFury, Y U NO MINETEST WORLD MAKE IT |
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* Jordach |
grunts loudly |
| 17:22 |
Jordach |
fuck sakes, found a UV issue on my G4 model |
| 17:22 |
Jordach |
fixed in one render, not fixed for my templates |
| 17:25 |
Jordach |
ugh, i hate temp fixes |
| 17:25 |
Jordach |
it's a hack for the model :( |
| 17:28 |
Jordach |
D: Blender (Not responding) |
| 17:28 |
* Jordach |
is considering time travel |
| 17:29 |
Jordach |
let's re-visit older renders |
| 17:32 |
Jordach |
Are you sure to re-write history? [Yes] [HELL NO] [Maybe?] |
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Jordach |
hey Peacock |
| 17:34 |
Peacock |
hey |
| 17:35 |
Jordach |
ouch, that render weighs 1.42mb |
| 17:36 |
Jordach |
http://mg.viewskew.com/mgoblin_media/media_entries/378/layzeebastard.png <- |
| 17:36 |
Jordach |
60's Space Furniture FTW |
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STHGOM |
Hello |
| 17:41 |
* Jordach |
forgot about the 15 mins delay on viewskew mail |
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Jordach |
lol - my first Gen 2 model was actually used for my GitHub profile |
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Jordach |
new picture get: https://github.com/jordach |
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* Mati^1 |
who is RealBadAngel?? |
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thefamilygrog66 |
nice chair, Jordach |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
a real bad angel |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
> Minetest 1.0 |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
nice Jordach |
| 17:50 |
Jordach |
http://ubuntuone.com/3EU6x3Z0clyGmBV54GNPJf <- seems legit |
| 17:50 |
thefamilygrog66 |
wish nodeboxes could do something like that chair, but the textures would be all wacky |
| 17:52 |
thefamilygrog66 |
No, not Khaaaaaaaaaaaan again! |
| 17:52 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Groooooooooooog! |
| 17:52 |
Jordach |
btw: http://realbadangel.pl/screenshots/Haven/scr1.png <- see the gravel: that DOES LOOK GOOD |
| 17:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
Jordach - that's a stock GIMP texture, no? |
| 17:53 |
Jordach |
no idea |
| 17:53 |
thefamilygrog66 |
looks like one of those texture fills |
| 17:54 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
eeek i have a hard time with ultra-high-res and ultra-low-res textures |
| 17:56 |
Jordach |
not on windows 7 |
| 17:56 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
both give me headaches for different reasons lol |
| 17:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
couldn't find the gravel pattern fill in GIMP, but I did find coffee beans |
| 17:56 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
low-res tends to be brighter on my led screen, highres for some reason dizzying lol |
| 17:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
which got me to thinking |
| 17:56 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I need a freakin' coffee |
| 17:57 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
haha im having some right now |
| 17:58 |
thefamilygrog66 |
the only place around here is Slim Borton's, but it'll have to do |
| 17:58 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/RoztesG.png <- john_minetest |
| 17:59 |
Jordach |
Canadians and their fucking coffee |
| 17:59 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
they keep opening so many timmies all over the place, you get sick of it before even having any lol |
| 18:00 |
* Jordach |
pops another mint |
| 18:00 |
thefamilygrog66 |
word |
| 18:00 |
Jordach |
mmm, tasty |
| 18:00 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
thought i recently read why theyre doing that (selling too many franchises) - they plan on buying back 1 bil $ in shares |
| 18:01 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, im running 7 SP1 iirc |
| 18:01 |
* Jordach |
wants to run windows 95 in a VM |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
no surprise there, any restaurant on the stock market is pressured to increase profits by progressively cutting standards and quality, until consumers go elsewhere lol |
| 18:02 |
thefamilygrog66 |
I'm gonna make minetest run on a Windows 3.1 machine |
| 18:02 |
Calinou |
"Minetest for Workgroups" |
| 18:02 |
* Calinou |
runs |
| 18:02 |
thefamilygrog66 |
the thing with their clientele is that they're largely senile, so they don't remember how shitty the coffee was the last time they were there |
| 18:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
o_O |
| 18:03 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
coffee stays about the same but the food is getting worse apparently |
| 18:03 |
thefamilygrog66 |
it cleans you out pretty well, if you happen to be constipated |
| 18:03 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
its funny that their coffee at the grocery store tastes better than their coffee in their shops |
| 18:04 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
but thats prolly due to not cleaning the commercial coffee machines often enough |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
Minetest 3.11 |
| 18:04 |
Jordach |
huehuehue |
| 18:05 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
gibe me money or i report u - huehuehue |
| 18:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
that's the main reason I don't drink draught beer anymore... |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
Time to Minetes 3.11 2,000 Years remaining |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
Minetet* |
| 18:05 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
tap beer? |
| 18:05 |
Jordach |
Minetest* |
| 18:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
yeah, bars don't clean the lines enough |
| 18:05 |
thefamilygrog66 |
doesn't agree with me so much |
| 18:06 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
yeah no ive worked in a few and you're lucky if the staff aren't as drunk/high as the clientele when they finish, so the cleaning is pretty random lol |
| 18:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
^^^ yes |
| 18:06 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and honestly it tastes watered-down |
| 18:06 |
thefamilygrog66 |
so how long till 0.4.8 is released guys? |
| 18:07 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Soon(tm) |
| 18:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
d'oh |
| 18:07 |
thefamilygrog66 |
how long till an Android client? :) |
| 18:08 |
thefamilygrog66 |
<crickets> |
| 18:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
it is said when minetest 0.5.0 arrives, the antichrist will also be revealed |
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Jordach |
haha |
| 18:12 |
Jordach |
JESUS FUCK |
| 18:12 |
kaeza |
AMEN |
| 18:13 |
* Jordach |
sneezed a super sized snotball |
| 18:13 |
Jordach |
my cough is still trying :P |
| 18:13 |
kaeza |
yey green theme! |
| 18:14 |
* blaaaaargh |
joins the party |
| 18:14 |
* Jordach |
doesnt bother |
| 18:15 |
* Jordach |
is really considering re-constructing Norwich; Jordach's closest city |
| 18:21 |
Jordach |
you got google maps loaded :P |
| 18:23 |
thefamilygrog66 |
what's OSM? |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, filters |
| 18:24 |
Jordach |
why don't we get the layout correct; then we add the buildings? |
| 18:24 |
thefamilygrog66 |
ahh |
| 18:24 |
* Jordach |
thinks a Minetest -> Blender World would be nice |
| 18:25 |
andersje |
are you guys turning google maps data into minetest maps? |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
holy shit |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
they mapped Castle Mall |
| 18:26 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 18:27 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
anyone do game of thrones in MT yet? ive heard ppl talk about the show here |
| 18:28 |
* andersje |
thinks about a map->MT converter |
| 18:28 |
andersje |
you guys saw the bit about Ordnance Surveys doing all of the British Isles into Minecraft, right? |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i know where we should start |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
.. |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
.... |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
. |
| 18:28 |
sfan5 |
hi everyone |
| 18:29 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
didnt know their maps was big enough for all the UK |
| 18:29 |
andersje |
22 billion blocks |
| 18:29 |
andersje |
I'm guessing it's divided into regions somehow. |
| 18:29 |
* andersje |
doesn't know a lot about minecraft |
| 18:29 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
heck an MT map is 32K by 32K approx. |
| 18:30 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
would still need an engine/rptocol change i think |
| 18:31 |
andersje |
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24177844 |
| 18:31 |
andersje |
that's the link to the article |
| 18:31 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i think the # of chunks is limited by the data type of the ids? |
| 18:31 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, look for norwich city hall |
| 18:31 |
* Jordach |
has been ~70m from it IRL |
| 18:32 |
Jordach |
our next stop should be Berlin |
| 18:32 |
* Jordach |
cant rember the dev of streets |
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thecoffeegrogawa |
d'oh |
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blaaaaargh |
thecoffeegrogawa sounds like a Japanese name |
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Jordach |
hey Evergreen |
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| 19:11 |
Evergreen |
hey |
| 19:11 |
Jordach |
hello Calinou |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
hi Evergreen and Jordach :) |
| 19:12 |
* Jordach |
gets a smiley face |
| 19:12 |
Jordach |
\o/ |
| 19:12 |
Calinou |
(: |
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* Calinou |
gallops away |
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* Jordach |
shoots the pony |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
DEAL WITH IT |
| 19:13 |
Jordach |
Evergreen, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111831#p111831 |
| 19:14 |
Evergreen |
You've got a very nice seat there |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
silly fact: if you search my name on Facebook, my animatic self will appear |
| 19:14 |
Jordach |
github name* |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
i've just realised that looks like the most interesting meme |
| 19:15 |
Jordach |
I dont make blender renders often...but when i do they're gold |
| 19:17 |
Jordach |
here's my two options for a Blender animatics: Interview with me (yes, you will get to input questions) or a secret one ;) |
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PilzAdam |
front |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i switched to blender; i might be able to do it over the weekend |
| 19:20 |
Jordach |
<- doesnt have infinite CPU time |
| 19:21 |
Jordach |
nope.avi |
| 19:22 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, I would vote for the secret one |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
i already hinted at it |
| 19:22 |
Jordach |
can we stop the LUNACY? |
| 19:23 |
Jordach |
oh, just look up; you'll see what i mean ;) (out of a window) |
| 19:24 |
Calinou |
better stop the LUACY |
| 19:24 |
* Calinou |
runs |
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* Jordach |
smells shitty thing: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7277 |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
> .rar |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mrwwwfvfa6ypkyj/TheggaCity.rar |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
LOL |
| 19:31 |
Jordach |
plol |
| 19:32 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
surprised it's not .exe lol |
| 19:33 |
* Jordach |
wonders why people haven't provided self extracting archives yet |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
iirc, 7-Zip and WinRAR |
| 19:33 |
Jordach |
can make them |
| 19:36 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
close enough |
| 19:39 |
harrison |
aardvark self storage |
| 19:39 |
harrison |
self-extracting aardvaark: see above |
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| 19:43 |
Pilcrow |
hey guys |
| 19:43 |
Calinou |
Pilcrow id'd werecrow |
| 19:43 |
Calinou |
hi |
| 19:43 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
How would I code it so that physics override happens for a set period of time (say 300 seconds, for example)? |
| 19:43 |
blaaaaargh |
rar has berrer compression than zip by large |
| 19:44 |
blaaaaargh |
berrer? |
| 19:44 |
blaaaaargh |
better! |
| 19:44 |
Pilcrow |
calinou: who's werecrow? my name's a grammatical symbol :) |
| 19:45 |
blaaaaargh |
Pilzcrow? |
| 19:45 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
^^^ |
| 19:45 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
Ye olde mushroom crow |
| 19:46 |
Pilcrow |
blaaaaargh: and 7z *usually* has better comression than rar, although it's close... |
| 19:47 |
blaaaaargh |
Pilcrow, indeed |
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FreeFull |
7z is slower though |
| 19:47 |
FreeFull |
At least, for higher compression levels |
| 19:47 |
Pilcrow |
I'm trying to compile a 32-bit linux version of minetest, but I'm getting lots of errors. I'm probably missing something, but I don't really know what... |
| 19:47 |
blaaaaargh |
anyone tried lzip? |
| 19:48 |
blaaaaargh |
http://alleg.sourceforge.net/docs/lzip_compression.en.html |
| 19:48 |
Pilcrow |
blaaaaargh: how about tar+xzip? :P |
| 19:48 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
Any ideas re: my physics override question? |
| 19:49 |
blaaaaargh |
"LZIP is an amazing format, isn't it? They sometimes manage to compress files down to 0 bytes!" |
| 19:49 |
FreeFull |
xzip will produce slightly smaller files than gzip |
| 19:49 |
PilzAdam |
thecaffeinegrog6, well, use set_phiscis_override() and minetest.after() |
| 19:50 |
blaaaaargh |
set_piscis_override() |
| 19:50 |
blaaaaargh |
there's one for each zodiac sign |
| 19:50 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
thanks PilzAdam - I'll mess around with it for a bit |
| 19:51 |
Pilcrow |
anyways, if anyone can help me with this I'd appreciate it... http://pastebin.com/7nNghBTc |
| 19:52 |
Calinou |
set all nodes to disable fall damage by default, maybe |
| 19:53 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
PilzAdam, does set_physics_override() work with 0.4.7, or do I need a newer version? |
| 19:53 |
Pilcrow |
that's an unmodified git source, btw |
| 19:53 |
PilzAdam |
dunno, look in the changelog |
| 19:54 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
it's in the lua_api.txt file for the version I have, so I'm gonna assume it works |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
hmm okay |
| 19:55 |
* Jordach |
has reference material |
| 19:55 |
Jordach |
woo |
| 19:56 |
* Jordach |
isn't a fan of cold war era video |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
16mm camera |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
I have LODR 1 and 2 on VHS |
| 19:57 |
PilzAdam |
*LOTR |
| 19:57 |
Jordach |
and it's in BLACK AND WHITE |
| 19:57 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and you need to wind up the VCR with a crank! |
| 19:57 |
* Jordach |
thinks a B&W render might be in good taste |
| 19:57 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
:P |
| 19:58 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, Im pretty sure you mean grayscale instead of black and white |
| 19:58 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
that shit demagnetizes over time, even more if you actually watch them lol |
| 19:58 |
Jordach |
they mean the same thing over here |
| 19:58 |
PilzAdam |
no, they dont |
| 19:58 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
but thats like dvd's randomly not playing after a year ortwo |
| 19:58 |
PilzAdam |
(people in germany think that too, but they are also wrong) |
| 19:58 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ever recorded shit in EP? |
| 19:58 |
FreeFull |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan: That's why you convert the video to digital |
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| 19:59 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
its alot more noticeable with EP :p |
| 19:59 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
OH NO, BETA! |
| 19:59 |
Pilcrow |
no help for me then, eh? |
| 19:59 |
PilzAdam |
Jordach, black and white means literally only black and white; while grayscale has all shades of gray inbetween |
| 20:00 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
its funny tho, the family had the same VCR for nearly 20 years, whereas DVD players, ive had 5 in 4 years lol |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
BETAMAXC |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
-C |
| 20:00 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
then i figured it was cheaper to buy a 2tb hdd |
| 20:00 |
Jordach |
true |
| 20:01 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
I use to have one of those videodisc machines - 12" record type things housed in a plastic case that you inserted into the machine. It kept the disc and spat out the case, and actually used a stylus to play the movie, which you had to flip over halfway through. |
| 20:01 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
media companies like to blame piracy but they brought it on themselves :P with extended cuts, director's cuts, masterpiece editions, flat screens, 3d tv, dvd, bluray, etc. lol |
| 20:02 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
3d tv, that lasted all of a year, maybe less lol |
| 20:03 |
Calinou |
lol 3D TV |
| 20:04 |
Pilcrow |
there are overlaps between grayscale and B&W though. tecnically the original gameboy had a black and white screen (err, green and dark green)... it got the 2 other shades by blinking at different rates, using the screen's "ghosting" properties to achieve a mostly-constant color... :) |
| 20:04 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
lol they like to sell you the same shit over and over |
| 20:04 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
oculus rift, sounds like a cocktail |
| 20:04 |
Jordach |
0x20, the final frontier: http://i.imgur.com/EQPru9H.png |
| 20:04 |
Calinou |
john carmack and eihrul approve |
| 20:04 |
* thecaffeinegrog6 |
still pulls out the original gameboy sometimes. Greentastic. |
| 20:05 |
Jordach |
(im a lazy texturer) |
| 20:05 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
wife plays GB games on an emulator lol |
| 20:06 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
me too |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
fuck that, i play them in an emulator WITH A GUITAR HERO GUITAR |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
!g visual boy advance |
| 20:07 |
MinetestBot |
Jordach: http://vba.ngemu.com/ |
| 20:07 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
I used to have one of those 50-in-1 cartridges from Japan, and I played this Japanese version of Asshole (the card game) repeatedly on a flight from Toronto to Vancouver - kept me sane. |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
i have one sitting in this room connected to my Samsung Smart TV |
| 20:07 |
* Calinou |
has a 6 year old 42" plasma TV, not even HD |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
oh and btw, i HAVE GOLDENEYE |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
few stuff on TV is HD anyway |
| 20:08 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
n64 emulator is fun too |
| 20:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ugh, cant stand flying, seats get smaller while the passengers get bigger |
| 20:08 |
Pilcrow |
I've got a lot of old systems. like 3 n64, a couple gameboy... and at least one working Sega GameGear! :D |
| 20:08 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 20:08 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
a real star-trekian exercise in having two people occupy the same point in spacetime |
| 20:09 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
that makes no logical sense, captain |
| 20:09 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
the worse is busses when you have a free seat next to you and a lady who obviously needs two squeezes in lol |
| 20:10 |
Pilcrow |
or an old man who smells like he hasn't showered in the last 2 years... |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
http://i.imgur.com/7O0Osuy.jpg <- john_minetest |
| 20:10 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
smelly people on public transit is a fact of life lol |
| 20:10 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
if its not the people, its the food they eat |
| 20:11 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
people should all just stop eating, ffs |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
dont get me started on busses with the chinese and indians |
| 20:11 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
naw they should just tax most junk food like they tax everything else bad for ya |
| 20:11 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, it still works; we even occasionally play mario party |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, i have it as well as lylat wars (star fox 64) |
| 20:12 |
* Jordach |
throws john_minetest a kitten |
| 20:12 |
Jordach |
now you do |
| 20:12 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
here, play this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVAiZN9obXo |
| 20:13 |
Pilcrow |
my copy of ocarina of time still works fine. I even play it sometimes. usually I just emulate it instead, though. |
| 20:13 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
mask of majora |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
thecaffeinegrog6, is that your youtube |
| 20:14 |
Jordach |
Pilcrow, is your copy GOLD? |
| 20:14 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
yeah, Jordach |
| 20:15 |
Pilcrow |
that maze makes me want to play nethack again... and yes, Jordach, it is. :) |
| 20:15 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
it's prompting me to install java, john_minetest |
| 20:16 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
I suppose if you want to play minecraft, haha |
| 20:16 |
Pilcrow |
also have majora's mask, but can't play it as I don't have the n64 mempack upgrade... |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
never heard of Oberon |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
also java is ok |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
it's 15-20% slower than C++ but runs on all OSes |
| 20:17 |
Calinou |
and is also a bit easier to set up I guess |
| 20:17 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
easily exploited too |
| 20:18 |
Calinou |
like any language... |
| 20:19 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
they should be written in JavaScript |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
yes but you need to compile it for each OS |
| 20:19 |
* Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
runs away |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
painful for OS X and windows :P |
| 20:20 |
Pilcrow |
I think everyone should use BASIC, especially for programming operating systems... :P |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
free subscribe to all minetest community members |
| 20:21 |
PilzAdam |
10 PRINT("NO!") 20 GOTO 10 |
| 20:21 |
Jordach |
S/NO!/nope.avi/ |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
john_minetest: yes, only the JRE |
| 20:22 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
don't be knocking the BASIC... |
| 20:22 |
thecaffeinegrog6 |
some of us old farts were weaned on it! |
| 20:22 |
Pilcrow |
lol I still dabble in qbasic. I've got both qb64 and freebasic on my current machine |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
Java isnt overrated |
| 20:23 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well it never really lived up to its full promise either (java) |
| 20:23 |
PilzAdam |
which one? |
| 20:23 |
thexyz |
lol @ 15-20% slower |
| 20:23 |
Evergreen |
<offtopic>If anyone wanted to see, here is the state of my desktop (all the panels aren't actually showing all the time, just done for the screenshot) http://i.imgur.com/tjUKIkm.png </offtopic> |
| 20:23 |
thexyz |
that's not how you measure performance |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
thexyz: if you use latest openjdk, it is 15 to 20% slower usually |
| 20:24 |
Calinou |
maybe even better :P |
| 20:24 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Write_once,_run_anywhere |
| 20:24 |
Pilcrow |
assembly? that's about as non-portable as you can get :P |
| 20:25 |
PilzAdam |
desktop icons? who uses them still? |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
I never use them, but I show them |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 20:25 |
Evergreen |
I don't, they are just there |
| 20:25 |
Calinou |
my Xubuntu config is quite default, but I use single click to open stuff, I have compositing off on my desktop |
| 20:26 |
Evergreen |
A lot of where my config came from is being used to unity |
| 20:27 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
ughughugh singleclick lol |
| 20:27 |
Evergreen |
Hence the side bar with launchers |
| 20:27 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
give her the Alt-D |
| 20:27 |
Pilcrow |
I've hated the *buntus for a long while. 8.4 was good, 8.10 was buggy, and everything after that just sucked... |
| 20:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
buntu, either my graphics or my wifi didn't work, on any given version lol |
| 20:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
they had one good version before going all NIH on it's users |
| 20:28 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
"gnome 3 sucks? here's unity! we can suck more" |
| 20:29 |
Pilcrow |
lol @Khaaaaaaaaaaaan, you couldn't be more right |
| 20:29 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
john you're lucky, beer is cheap in Germany :P installing ubuntu is quite expensive for me :( |
| 20:30 |
thexyz |
Calinou: come on, there's no such thing as "usually" when we're talking about code |
| 20:30 |
Calinou |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan: single click = saves hand power |
| 20:30 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
dont wanna know what you're saving it for :P |
| 20:31 |
Calinou |
lol |
| 20:31 |
Pilcrow |
I like single-click, but I'm in kde. each icon in the file manager has a "+" that if you click on it will select the file rather than open it. |
| 20:32 |
PilzAdam |
singleclick in KDE works fine for me |
| 20:32 |
thexyz |
also, the thing about "write once run anywhere" is shit |
| 20:32 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
more like "write once, debug everywhere" |
| 20:32 |
Calinou |
have fun compiling for windows and OS X and distributing it :P |
| 20:33 |
thexyz |
even that wikipedia article tells you that |
| 20:33 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i know, PA wanted to know why i thought JAva was bull lol |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
once you set it up it's easy |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
but the first time you do it on windows or OS X it's painful |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
I never got it working personally |
| 20:34 |
sfan5 |
meow |
| 20:34 |
* Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
gives sfan cat treats |
| 20:34 |
sfan5 |
:-( |
| 20:34 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
mine sits for them and raises her paw lol |
| 20:34 |
Calinou |
hi sfan5 |
| 20:35 |
harrison |
every time i try to compile, i become cross |
| 20:35 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
though the cat got used to getting them when people leave, so when it's been too long, she brings me to my shoes and tells me the gtfo so she can have cookies lol |
| 20:35 |
thexyz |
while "nice looking" is totally subjective I think some posts should be removed from https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6755 |
| 20:35 |
harrison |
john_minetest: you have left #spasim and left behind that useless bot which does not even respond to hello |
| 20:36 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
post or topic? |
| 20:36 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
jesus, the lens flares, BlockMen is JJ Abrams in disguise! |
| 20:36 |
thexyz |
some posts |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
russian censoreship in action |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
:-p |
| 20:37 |
Calinou |
night |
| 20:37 |
andersje |
night |
| 20:37 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
Josh and Aqua's WP are pretty crappe |
| 20:37 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
basically a screen with a caption lol |
| 20:37 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
drugs.... https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=111690#p111690 |
| 20:38 |
Calinou |
screen with a caption isn't necessarily bad |
| 20:38 |
Calinou |
the font is bad, though |
| 20:38 |
thexyz |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=104323#p104323 too |
| 20:38 |
Calinou |
and a wallpaper that isn't a photo should always be a .png :> |
| 20:38 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
no but a caption on a white box? cmon |
| 20:38 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
hell yahoo 95' homepage |
| 20:38 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
*hello |
| 20:38 |
Calinou |
yeah, that looks bad |
| 20:39 |
thexyz |
I'd prefer http://i.imgur.com/h9FzXEM.jpg without "MINETEST" label |
| 20:39 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
i have to stop looking at that or i'll get a seizure lol |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
honestly, I think this "Minetest" caption we now have everywhere looks like shit |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
but that's subjective, right? |
| 20:40 |
thexyz |
also, previous design of the main website was better |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
yeah |
| 20:40 |
Calinou |
more flat-designy :P |
| 20:41 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well... i can tell it's minetest without the caption, MC textures arent exactly the same |
| 20:41 |
Calinou |
but the current one is easier to edit for admins, and has more content |
| 20:41 |
thexyz |
this has nothing to do with design |
| 20:41 |
thexyz |
just looking at the main page http://minetest.net/ makes me cry |
| 20:41 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well instead of a bunch of screens thrown together, you could have one screen thats a script that loops through the screenshots thread in general |
| 20:42 |
thexyz |
that too |
| 20:42 |
thexyz |
but those gradients look bad too |
| 20:42 |
thexyz |
background |
| 20:43 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
and you have a start tab, and a seperate menubar on top, wtf? lol |
| 20:44 |
thexyz |
"start tab" is just page title |
| 20:44 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
cant all the menubar items be tabs? |
| 20:44 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
or just highlight home in the menubar instead of having the tab |
| 20:44 |
Pilcrow |
why does it all lead to the screenshots thread, anyway? the images could showcase popular mods, and clicking on a pic will take you to its mod thread. |
| 20:44 |
thexyz |
dunno, not touching it! |
| 20:45 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
yeah whoever made that design wouldn't be happy lol |
| 20:45 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
(if it got changed i mean) |
| 20:45 |
thexyz |
I still think prowseed's design is the best one |
| 20:46 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
maybe hold another design contest so no one can get pissed off at the winner lol |
| 20:47 |
thexyz |
well |
| 20:47 |
thexyz |
everyone but me seemed to like it |
| 20:47 |
thexyz |
and at the same time everyone but me seemed to hate prowseed's design because it looks too professional |
| 20:47 |
thexyz |
or something like this |
| 20:47 |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
well i thought (at the time) it looked too much like MC's website |
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Khaaaaaaaaaaaan |
still, professional designs > amateurish ones |
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| 20:49 |
* Sokomine |
looks for calinou and/or vanessa |
| 20:50 |
* Sokomine |
deletes several a in khaans name |
| 20:50 |
Pilcrow |
Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan |
| 20:51 |
* Sokomine |
fires a photon torpedo at pilcrow! |
| 20:52 |
Pilcrow |
I eat it. yum, photons! |
| 20:52 |
* harrison |
drinks Potion of Irritability |
| 20:54 |
Pilcrow |
anyways, can anyone help with that compile error? http://pastebin.com/7nNghBTc -- unmodified 9e6bd git download, compiling on an outdated 32-bit linux. I'm probably missing something, but don't know what... |
| 21:00 |
Evergreen |
Gpong back to previous conversation, I liked the old design of the website much better. |
| 21:01 |
Pilcrow |
I only started playing minetest after 0.4.4 was released. it hasn't changed much since then, that I recall |
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PilzAdam |
Pilcrow, what irrlicht version do you have? |
| 21:02 |
Pilcrow |
irrlicht-svn 3843 |
| 21:04 |
Pilcrow |
not really sure how old that is. I'll try compiling the latest from source. |
| 21:04 |
PilzAdam |
be sure to not use a pre-release 1.8 |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
its known that it doesnt define u64 |
| 21:05 |
Pilcrow |
ok |
| 21:05 |
PilzAdam |
you can patch Minetest to simply define it, though |
| 21:10 |
Pilcrow |
ok, thanks for the help. sorry, just trying to get minetest working on another computer. my main one is 64-bit and more updated, so compiling it in there worked fine... |
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| 21:27 |
Pilcrow |
thanks, PilzAdam. updating irrlicht seems to have fixed my problem. :) |
| 21:34 |
Pilcrow |
sweet, minetest installed and running on this beast |
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| 21:35 |
Pilcrow |
hello, blaaaaargh |
| 21:35 |
blaaaaargh |
o/ |
| 21:36 |
Pilcrow |
I just installed minetest on a 2-year-old linux install. :P |
| 21:37 |
* blaaaaargh |
. |
| 21:38 |
Pilcrow |
chakra linux, a fork of arch |
| 21:41 |
Pilcrow |
yeah, it's pretty nice. not as outdated as, say, debian, but more stable than arch. |
| 21:42 |
Pilcrow |
it's what I use in my machine too, but they switched to 64-bit-only with recent versions, so this old beast was out of luck. :P |
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| 21:43 |
Pilcrow |
pacman -Syu will rarely, if ever, break anything in chakra (even with the testing repo enabled). as I recall, you need to be a bit more selective with updates in arch... |
| 21:43 |
harrison |
debian outdated lol |
| 21:44 |
harrison |
not if you run bleeding edge debian++ such as siduction |
| 21:44 |
harrison |
like the best coders do |
| 21:45 |
Pilcrow |
harrison: and then it has stability issues since sid is not intended for production use. ;) |
| 21:45 |
harrison |
you are compiling minetest on a 6-sigma uptime corporate server? |
| 21:46 |
Pilcrow |
nah, I'm just saying I prefer a little more stability. doesn't need to be bullet-proof, but I'm fond of global updates... |
| 21:47 |
harrison |
thus the "outdated 32bit linux" |
| 21:47 |
harrison |
i see |
| 21:48 |
harrison |
your preferences are strangely odd.... |
| 21:48 |
Pilcrow |
no, no, this is an old computer. my main box is more up to date. |
| 21:50 |
Pilcrow |
chakra was installed on this thing before they dropped 32-bit support, and it'd take some effort to back up its files and install something current... |
| 21:52 |
Pilcrow |
ÇlÉŸÉŸÉÊ ÊlÉŸÉŸÉÊ ÇlÉŸÉŸÉÊ |
| 21:54 |
Pilcrow |
anyways, I'm gonna shut this thing down and get on my main computer. :) |
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jojoa1997 |
could i have a website with a minetest domain |
| 22:13 |
PilzAdam |
^ example how not to ask questions |
| 22:13 |
PilzAdam |
1) there is no question mark |
| 22:13 |
PilzAdam |
2) quit ASAP after asking |
| 22:13 |
PilzAdam |
3) dont give any context at all |
| 22:13 |
harrison |
PilzAdam: I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop |
| 22:14 |
PilzAdam |
harrison, as a bully I feel offended by your link. Please read http://trololol.com/ |
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NakedFury |
down with bullies |
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dafull97 |
looking for support, can someone help? |
| 23:21 |
dafull97 |
i might have a glitch |
| 23:21 |
PilzAdam |
have you read the channel topic? |
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dafull97_ |
hey, can anyone help me? |
| 23:27 |
Evergreen |
BlockMen is awesome: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7289 |
| 23:28 |
dafull97_ |
wow that is preety awesome |
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PilzAdam |
dafull97_, http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/2013-09-24#i_3336177 |
| 23:29 |
dafull97_ |
i have, what are you the play police? |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
"Don't ask about asking questions." |
| 23:30 |
dafull97_ |
im not asking about questions, i am asking about glitches |
| 23:30 |
PilzAdam |
you dont look for someone to help, you just say what you want and people will answer it then if they can |
| 23:31 |
dafull97_ |
cry much? |
| 23:31 |
dafull97_ |
leave me alone... i am not asking you obviously |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
umm... I just explain how IRC works |
| 23:31 |
PilzAdam |
otherwise you will be ignored like in #minetest-mods |
| 23:37 |
FreeFull |
And he never said what the glitch is |
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dafull97 |
is that little kid still here? |
| 23:39 |
PilzAdam |
lol |
| 23:39 |
dafull97 |
-.- |
| 23:40 |
Evergreen |
What is your problem? It would be good if you could post it on the bugs and glitches secrion of the forums |
| 23:40 |
Evergreen |
*section |
| 23:40 |
dafull97 |
i have, want the link? |
| 23:40 |
dafull97 |
and i am not sure if it is a glitch... it could be |
| 23:41 |
Evergreen |
sure, what is the link |
| 23:42 |
blaaaaargh |
a bit on the offensive side are we... |
| 23:42 |
dafull97 |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7288 |
| 23:42 |
PilzAdam |
what Minetest version do you use? |
| 23:42 |
Evergreen |
Okay, what is the path to your mods folder |
| 23:42 |
Evergreen |
^ What PilzAdam said |
| 23:43 |
dafull97 |
*/home/.minetest/mods |
| 23:44 |
Evergreen |
What minetest version? |
| 23:44 |
Evergreen |
That is the correct path |
| 23:46 |
dafull97 |
Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2, Linux 2.6.32-042stab078.28 |
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dafull97 |
Irrlicht Engine version 1.7.2, Linux 2.6.32-042stab078.28 |
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kahrl |
so much netsplit |
| 23:49 |
PilzAdam |
am I on the good side again? |
| 23:50 |
dafull97 |
what you mean by that ^^ |
| 23:50 |
kahrl |
I see ponies on this side. So yes. |
| 23:50 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, the Minetest version is at the top-left corner of the screen |
| 23:51 |
PilzAdam |
*window |
| 23:52 |
dafull97 |
it is in a VPS, which means that i connect via ssh |
| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
oh right, then how did you install Minetest? |
| 23:52 |
PilzAdam |
kahrl, why dont we have a --version ? |
| 23:53 |
kahrl |
we don't? |
| 23:53 |
kahrl |
I never noticed |
| 23:53 |
dafull97 |
with a command, lol... it is my server in the VPS Btw.... |
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PilzAdam |
kahrl, also, changing the version after releasing to something new (e.g. with -dev at the end) would help a lot |
| 23:54 |
kahrl |
I see some people do that in screenshots |
| 23:55 |
kahrl |
I think proller does it |
| 23:55 |
kahrl |
we should adopt that, yes |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
I see a lot of people here that say "I have 0.4.7" but they actually have latest git |
| 23:55 |
PilzAdam |
dafull97, what command? |
| 23:55 |
dafull97 |
--info |
| 23:56 |
kahrl |
--info enables infostream output to stdout |
| 23:56 |
PilzAdam |
--info prints the Minetest version |
| 23:56 |
PilzAdam |
but we should still add --version |
| 23:56 |
dafull97 |
that is what i did... so what is wrong? |
| 23:57 |
PilzAdam |
anyway, so what is your Minetest version? |
| 23:58 |
NakedFury |
so many times the question what is your minetest version has been asked already |
| 23:59 |
PilzAdam |
MinetestBot should do that for us... |
| 23:59 |
dafull97 |
yes, i have told them already? |
| 23:59 |
NakedFury |
you havent |
| 23:59 |
NakedFury |
you said irrlicht version not minetests version |
