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LinuxGuy2020 |
Hello I have downloaded and built 0.4.7 on my Debian 7 desktop machine. I want to run the minetest-server on my newly built mini-itx headless server. Im not sure how to run the program as a damon I guess you would call it, where it runs in the background all the time like ftp, ssh, samba does on the same server. I asked in the debian channel but one of the mods is a troll and sent me here. |
| 00:01 |
* Evergreen |
dumps a bucket of lava on STHGOM's head |
| 00:01 |
Evergreen |
(jk) |
| 00:01 |
Menche |
you'd have to make the service file or whatever yourself, i think |
| 00:02 |
Menche |
i have cron run the minetestserver command |
| 00:04 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
If minetest-server isnt started as a service then it will tie up the terminal until its stopped wont it? |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
unless you use cron, nohup, or a multiplexer, yes |
| 00:05 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
ok Ill do some more reading on those. Thank you. |
| 00:05 |
Menche |
i have cron call a script every minute that starts mintestserver if it isn't already running |
| 00:06 |
Menche |
used to use tmux |
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STHGOM |
hi |
| 00:07 |
Menche |
this is the script i use: http://pastebin.com/YuFaYvCJ |
| 00:08 |
Menche |
(im not sure whether or not i need those exports) |
| 00:09 |
PilzAdam |
Menche, AFAIk you dont need "export" when the variable is only relevant in the script |
| 00:09 |
Menche |
i kinda thought that; i haven't made a lot of sh scripts |
| 00:10 |
Menche |
only recently memorized how to use for loops |
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Exio4 |
PilzAdam: puppy? |
| 00:13 |
PilzAdam |
no, nyu is a bad op |
| 00:13 |
Exio4 |
he is sleeping |
| 00:13 |
Exio4 |
(party time) |
| 00:14 |
PilzAdam |
fine |
| 00:15 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Ok cool so "nohup minetest-server" added to the /etc/rc.local seems like it may be the easiest way for me to run the minetest-server as a background process every time the server is started up (if it ever gets shutdown or power outage). This brings up another question. If I have the minetest-server running and people on the local lan are playing, power goes out or whatever that causes the system to have to be restarted, is there any c |
| 00:16 |
Exio4 |
what |
| 00:16 |
Menche |
if the server suddenly shuts down, and players on will get the message SERVER SHUTTING DOWN |
| 00:16 |
Exio4 |
they won't if the server crashes |
| 00:17 |
Exio4 |
(the most likely reason of why they get disconnected) |
| 00:17 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Ok sounds good to me. Ill just try it and see how it goes. Thank you guys. |
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Menche |
google thinks i'm using chromium |
| 00:22 |
Menche |
(im actually using dwb) |
| 00:22 |
Menche |
wonder how they detect that |
| 00:31 |
khonkhortisan |
your web browser tells the website |
| 00:31 |
khonkhortisan |
through a user agent |
| 00:32 |
Menche |
html5test.com gets it right |
| 00:32 |
Menche |
whatbrowser.org thinks im using chromium |
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STHGOM |
hello |
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LinuxGuy2020 |
Ok here is an odd question I successfully have a minetest server running using "nohup /path/minetestsever". It starts as root though. Is this the way it should be ran or should a make it run as a normal user? |
| 01:04 |
ShadowNinja |
LinuxGuy2020: It should definitely NOT run as root. |
| 01:05 |
ShadowNinja |
LinuxGuy2020: Any mods will have total controll over your system. |
| 01:05 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
ShadowNinja: happen to know what I need to do in order to get it to run as a new user named "minetest"? |
| 01:06 |
Menche |
would "su user command" work? |
| 01:06 |
ShadowNinja |
su minetest -c "/path/minetestserver" |
| 01:07 |
LinuxGuy2020 |
Ah yes just reading about that. Thanks guys! |
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Evergreen |
I have to do this thing called "sleep". Catch you guys later |
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* Menche |
is attempting to download music from amazon |
| 01:12 |
Menche |
apparently you can't from linux |
| 01:12 |
Menche |
it seems that now you need a special amazon media player (for windows only, naturally) |
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jojoa1997 |
bbi5 |
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Menche |
...and this amazon media player I need doesn't even work in wine |
| 01:22 |
* Menche |
gives amazon an expressive single digit |
| 01:23 |
Menche |
wait, maybe it'll work if i get flash |
| 01:23 |
* Menche |
doesn't know why he should need flash to download a file |
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PilzAdam |
bye |
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VanessaE |
<offtopic> anyone care to see a dressform I made? </offtopic> |
| 02:26 |
yyamiyyugi |
what exactly is vessel for? Like what exactly does it do to a node? |
| 02:28 |
Menche |
currently they're just there to provide items for use by mods |
| 02:29 |
Menche |
vessels have no use in the default minetest_game currently |
| 02:31 |
yyamiyyugi |
like, what can I use it for? |
| 02:31 |
yyamiyyugi |
I made my node a vessel but it doesn't seem diffrent in anyway |
| 02:32 |
Menche |
you made your node a vessel? what did you do exactly? |
| 02:33 |
yyamiyyugi |
atleast i think i did, I added vessel in the groups |
| 02:34 |
Menche |
don't think that does anything besides make a new group and put your node in it |
| 02:34 |
yyamiyyugi |
oh :/ |
| 02:35 |
VanessaE |
originally I wrote them to use with unified dyes, but they've since been obsoleted. |
| 02:36 |
yyamiyyugi |
ok, just playing around with the groups and stuff and couldn't figure out what it did XD |
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Mossmanikin |
bye, later |
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Vazon |
dang it Smellys not on |
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Vazon |
Miner_48er are you there |
| 04:31 |
Miner_48er |
yes |
| 04:31 |
Vazon |
im so ticked |
| 04:32 |
Vazon |
Miner go to the #vazon |
| 04:32 |
Miner_48er |
on what? |
| 04:33 |
Vazon |
her |
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Vazon |
here |
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Miner_48er |
any kill cmd mods? |
| 06:18 |
Menche |
huh? |
| 06:21 |
Miner_48er |
or spawn mods? |
| 06:22 |
Menche |
i had one called inventorywarp |
| 06:22 |
Menche |
one function was to suicide |
| 06:23 |
Menche |
(at least i think it was inventorywarp that provided that) |
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Mr_Round |
hey? |
| 06:24 |
Menche |
hello |
| 06:24 |
Menche |
irc's kinda quiet right now |
| 06:24 |
Mr_Round |
can some one tell me how to fix the lag when placeing blocks? |
| 06:25 |
Menche |
singleplayer or multiplayer? |
| 06:25 |
Mr_Round |
always single |
| 06:25 |
Mr_Round |
lol i dont do mullti |
| 06:25 |
Menche |
try adding "disable_anticheat = true" to minetest.conf |
| 06:25 |
Menche |
or saying "/set disable_anticheat true" |
| 06:26 |
Mr_Round |
going to test it |
| 06:27 |
Mr_Round |
okay it didnt seem to help it any |
| 06:28 |
Mr_Round |
lol nope |
| 06:28 |
Menche |
try adding the settings here to minetest.conf: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 |
| 06:28 |
Menche |
it says it's for a server; your technically running a local server in singleplayer |
| 06:29 |
Menche |
did you quit minetest completely before editing the conf file? iirc minetest saves on shutdown |
| 06:29 |
Mr_Round |
yes |
| 06:30 |
e1z0 |
morning |
| 06:31 |
Mr_Round |
thats fixed it i think |
| 06:32 |
Mr_Round |
okay u guys are awesome. how about the png interlace thing |
| 06:34 |
Menche |
the PNG warning? it's harmless |
| 06:34 |
Menche |
idk what it's for, but i notice it alot |
| 06:34 |
Mr_Round |
png warning: Interlace handleing should be turned on when useing |
| 06:34 |
Menche |
yeah that |
| 06:34 |
Mr_Round |
yeah im trying to get a smoother set up |
| 06:34 |
Mr_Round |
i do apprecieate the help tho dude |
| 06:35 |
Mr_Round |
any thing else i should do. i did the fps thing |
| 06:36 |
Menche |
fps thing? |
| 06:36 |
Mr_Round |
Minimum FPS = 60 wanted_fps = 100 fps_max = 500 |
| 06:37 |
Menche |
i don't see any reason to move the cap above 60, as my monitor only refreshes that fast |
| 06:37 |
Mr_Round |
so you think it should all be 60? |
| 06:37 |
Menche |
idk |
| 06:38 |
Menche |
i don't usually change that |
| 06:38 |
Mr_Round |
yeah well minecraft java bs annoys me |
| 06:38 |
Menche |
i usually enable mip-mapping and anisotropic filtering |
| 06:38 |
Menche |
really, really cuts down noise in the distance |
| 06:39 |
Mr_Round |
so just turn those on? |
| 06:39 |
Menche |
yeah |
| 06:39 |
Menche |
iirc minecraft doesn't have either |
| 06:39 |
Menche |
if it takes a while to start the game, disable Preload item visuals |
| 06:40 |
Mr_Round |
yeah i have that off already |
| 06:41 |
Mr_Round |
okay another problem i have is it dont safe my levels |
| 06:41 |
Menche |
? |
| 06:42 |
Mr_Round |
like every time i leave and come back the blocks placed are gone like i didnt do any work |
| 06:42 |
Menche |
you mean it's not saving your worlds? |
| 06:42 |
Mr_Round |
seems so |
| 06:42 |
Menche |
does it give you warnings about map saving being disabled? |
| 06:42 |
Mr_Round |
ill cheak |
| 06:43 |
Mr_Round |
nope |
| 06:44 |
Menche |
hmm, are you sure that you don't have any other instances of minetest running? |
| 06:44 |
Mr_Round |
yeah im 87% sure |
| 06:45 |
Mr_Round |
okay theres only one client open block place and its not saving |
| 06:45 |
Menche |
does the world folder contain a file called "map_meta.txt" and if so does that file contain anything? |
| 06:46 |
Mr_Round |
in both worlds |
| 06:46 |
Mr_Round |
im going to try to remove/delete the world start a new |
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Menche |
yeah try that, im out of ideas |
| 06:48 |
Mr_Round |
lol it spawns me in randoms |
| 06:48 |
Menche |
you were just spawning in different places? |
| 06:48 |
Mr_Round |
yeah |
| 06:49 |
Menche |
you can change that by setting "static_spawnpoint = x,y,z" in your minetest.conf |
| 06:49 |
Mr_Round |
how do i get the chords |
| 06:50 |
Menche |
F5 |
| 06:51 |
Mr_Round |
\do i need the chords? or just the static_spawn thing |
| 06:51 |
Menche |
you set static_spawn to the coords you want to spawn at |
| 06:54 |
Mr_Round |
lol i must be doing it wrong lol |
| 06:54 |
Menche |
what did you set it to? |
| 06:55 |
Mr_Round |
16.3,1.5,8.9 |
| 06:55 |
Menche |
should work |
| 06:56 |
Mr_Round |
is theree a /setspawn kinda deal? |
| 06:56 |
Menche |
no |
| 06:56 |
Menche |
well, you can "set static_spawnpoint x,y,z" |
| 06:56 |
Menche |
*/set |
| 06:57 |
Mr_Round |
yay lol that worked |
| 06:58 |
Mr_Round |
okay now on minecraft i have the tmi mod is there a = to that for minetest |
| 06:58 |
Mr_Round |
and is there a fix for the directx9 thing i dont like my gl card much |
| 07:00 |
Menche |
what is the tmi mod? |
| 07:00 |
Mr_Round |
like has a searchbar for items/blocks |
| 07:00 |
Mr_Round |
it also give you the block id and what not |
| 07:01 |
Mr_Round |
has a all the blocks like minetest does but in a larger string to soo more blocks |
| 07:01 |
Menche |
searching in the world or the inventory? |
| 07:01 |
Mr_Round |
well its mostly a Op tool for building in creative |
| 07:02 |
Menche |
what is it exactly? like a search bar in the creative inv? |
| 07:02 |
Mr_Round |
yeah pretty much |
| 07:03 |
Menche |
i think there was something like that but i forget the name |
| 07:03 |
Calinou |
TMI = Too Many Items |
| 07:03 |
Mr_Round |
yes lol |
| 07:03 |
Calinou |
unified_inventory lets you search in items |
| 07:03 |
Calinou |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3933 |
| 07:03 |
Mr_Round |
its clean right? |
| 07:04 |
Calinou |
clean? |
| 07:04 |
Menche |
may want to re-enable preload item visuals if you use unified inv |
| 07:04 |
Menche |
or it'll take a while to open |
| 07:04 |
Calinou |
I don't use it and it works fine |
| 07:05 |
Calinou |
you may have to wait 2-4 seconds the first time you open inv or switch a page |
| 07:05 |
Mr_Round |
ok |
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Mr_Round |
thats what i needed for that and is there a world edit wand? like instead of useing the /pos2 i can click and right click |
| 07:07 |
Menche |
type //p set |
| 07:07 |
Menche |
then punch the corners |
| 07:08 |
Mr_Round |
oh and it will do 1 and 2? |
| 07:08 |
Menche |
you punch both corners after //p set |
| 07:09 |
Menche |
what directx9 thing were you asking about? |
| 07:10 |
Mr_Round |
well i would like to use directx instead of opengl2.1 and it gives me a error |
| 07:10 |
Menche |
you need a build that supports directx |
| 07:11 |
Mr_Round |
well isnt it suported on 4.7? |
| 07:11 |
Menche |
there's a few sticky topics in General Discussion that have builds |
| 07:11 |
Menche |
it depends on the compiler |
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Mr_Round |
im on windows |
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Mr_Round |
so i would need a .exe im not to savey on doing that on windows at the moment |
| 07:12 |
Menche |
windows builds can be made with visual c++ or mingw; i believe only builds from visual c++ support directx |
| 07:12 |
Menche |
a few people have made builds |
| 07:12 |
Mr_Round |
is there a 4,7 build? |
| 07:13 |
Menche |
looks like most 3rd party builds are of the latest development version |
| 07:14 |
Mr_Round |
3rd party.... would be a clean install? |
| 07:14 |
Mr_Round |
like why 3rd party open sourced garbage people who think they know what there doing but dont |
| 07:14 |
Mr_Round |
....? |
| 07:15 |
Menche |
don't think they have code modifications, just 3rd party builds of the official code |
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Mr_Round |
link for a directx9 set up... im doing all this for my nephews bday present. |
| 07:16 |
Mr_Round |
would i have uninstall the one i have on here now |
| 07:17 |
Menche |
they're run-in-place, they aren't really "installed" |
| 07:17 |
Menche |
but it's a different installation |
| 07:18 |
Mr_Round |
so a folder and a... sh or a bat exucuteable? kindalike a portable version? |
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Menche |
a folder with a .exe executable |
| 07:18 |
Menche |
in the bin/ folder |
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Mr_Round |
so the install i have now would be safe just have a folder on my desktop kinda like windows version of nestopia? |
| 07:19 |
Menche |
yeah. idk what nestopia is but you'd run it from wherever you put the folder |
| 07:20 |
Menche |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=3 |
| 07:20 |
Mr_Round |
you got a link for this? if i could put it in a flash or a sd card and have it ware ever |
| 07:20 |
Menche |
that's the General Discussion forums, look at the stickies at the top |
| 07:21 |
Mr_Round |
okay |
| 07:21 |
Menche |
BlockMen says his supports directx |
| 07:21 |
Menche |
iirc Fess's does too and is 64-bit |
| 07:22 |
Mr_Round |
blockman? so look for his name on the stick |
| 07:23 |
Menche |
https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6727 |
| 07:23 |
Menche |
that one |
| 07:23 |
Mr_Round |
thank i just read that one and click download when u sent the link |
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Mr_Round |
i cant just copy the config i have already made right? |
| 07:26 |
Menche |
you can |
| 07:26 |
Mr_Round |
awesome imma try it |
| 07:26 |
Menche |
and the world folder too |
| 07:29 |
Mr_Round |
and the texture all |
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Mr_Round |
im getting a access violation.... |
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Mr_Round |
DUDE this is working any mods you recoment make it more minecraft minus java lol |
| 07:38 |
Menche |
BlockMen has a lot of mods that add MC-like stuff |
| 07:38 |
Menche |
mines: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6307 |
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Menche |
torches: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6099 |
| 07:38 |
Menche |
crafting: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5641 |
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Menche |
hud & hunger: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6342 |
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VanessaE |
"Debian comes in the flavours ancient, old and broken, nicknamen stable, testing and unstable ;)." |
| 08:04 |
VanessaE |
ain't it the truth :D |
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VanessaE |
good morning, Taoki |
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JamesTait |
Good morning all, happy Monday and happy Wonderful Weirdos Day! :-D |
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VanessaE |
good morning |
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VanessaE |
oh so it's my day, eh? |
| 08:24 |
VanessaE |
:) |
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Calinou |
it's my day too :D |
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JamesTait |
Me three. :) |
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PilzAdam |
Hello everyone! |
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PilzAdam |
spam: https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=7275 |
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PilzAdam |
(the first one in a long time) |
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sfan5 |
hi everyone |
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jojoa1997 |
Ello |
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jojoa1997 |
How would I have a craftitem turn into a different one with a command |
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Vazon |
hello anyone seen Smelly????? |
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still need to find smelly.....hmmmmm |
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Vazon |
Smelly ???? |
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PilzAdam |
Vazon, stop |
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PilzAdam |
dont come here every 10 minutes and then leave again |
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PilzAdam |
you can either wait for him here or look at the user list at the right |
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PilzAdam |
but dont say his name every 10 minutes, thats annoying |
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sorry im on a cell i cant se the list |
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jojoa1997 |
How would I change a craftitem init another craftitem ,midgame with a command! |
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jojoa1997 |
. |
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jojoa1997 |
? |
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yyamiyyugi |
whats up |
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kahrl |
!up linuxgaming.us |
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MinetestBot |
linuxgaming.us:30000 is up (507ms) |
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sfan5 |
plol |
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GNADev|zRokh |
hi |
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yyamiyyugi |
is there a way I can play a sound only for a certain player? |
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Sokomine |
it takes a considerate amount of time to load the world...of a server |
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Sokomine |
based on the amount of data i get, it can't be slow network connection |
| 15:38 |
Calinou |
yyamiyyugi: you can, as far as I know |
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Calinou |
see lua_api.txt |
| 15:38 |
Calinou |
Sokomine: you mean, to connect to a server? |
| 15:39 |
Calinou |
by default, mods are downloaded directly from server, not from web |
| 15:39 |
yyamiyyugi |
I mean like, the player presses somthing they hear a sound |
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IceCraft |
Hello |
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Sokomine |
no, to get the map data from a server |
| 15:39 |
Sokomine |
i'm trying to save as much of redcrabs server as i can |
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yyamiyyugi |
is there a way to do that client side, like say I pressed a gui thing, would i beable to get a sound from the players client instead of the server (so they would be able to use it on any server or add their own sounds) |
| 15:41 |
sapier |
mods aren't downloaded at all |
| 15:41 |
sapier |
only textures and models are downloaded, no difference if their origin is a mod or core |
| 15:43 |
Sokomine |
for example, it takes very long to be able to see the eiffel tower on redcrabs server in full - let alone the landscape |
| 15:47 |
Sokomine |
right now, it seems i do not have to fear running out of disc space soon..... |
| 15:47 |
sapier |
:-) |
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sapier |
how big is the map? |
| 15:49 |
Sokomine |
the map as such? extremly big. to my knowledge, more than 10 gb |
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Sokomine |
i do not intend to record all of it. nobody's intrested in abandomed mines |
| 15:49 |
sapier |
wow ... any chance to compress it prior transfer? |
| 15:50 |
Sokomine |
...or in places where people went only to get some papyrus (does not regrow there) |
| 15:50 |
Sokomine |
right now,now way to get the map as such |
| 15:50 |
Sokomine |
sfan5 helped me yesterday and made a slightly modified client version that saves what it downloads :-) |
| 15:51 |
sfan5 |
s/downloads/gets sent by the server/ |
| 15:51 |
Sokomine |
there is no known way to contact redcrab, the server owner. we do not know if the server will continue to exist for more than a week |
| 15:51 |
sapier |
oh |
| 15:51 |
Sokomine |
yes. and i'm amazed as to how few data that actually is. it takes a long time for the world to built (has been like this before). perhaps the server sends it slowly |
| 15:52 |
sfan5 |
Sokomine: redcrabs map can't be bigger thab 4gb if he uses sqlite |
| 15:52 |
Sokomine |
the 4gb limit was reached some time ag |
| 15:52 |
sapier |
hmmm 1 week is a little bit to short to create a client that uses multiple users for simultanous download |
| 15:53 |
andersje |
have you guys tried to contact the owner of the IP of redcrab's server? |
| 15:53 |
andersje |
you could do a whois on that, and get the owner of the netblock. since someone is paying for the IP, that registered owner should be able to get hold of the guy paying the bills |
| 15:54 |
sfan5 |
whois says "No match for "REDCRAB.SURET.NET"." |
| 15:54 |
andersje |
alternately, if redcrab stopped paying, he may be willing to let someone else take over the bill |
| 15:54 |
andersje |
it's an amazon IP, in ec2 |
| 15:54 |
sfan5 |
whois <the ip> says amazon ec2 |
| 15:54 |
Evergreen |
I sure hope you can save the redcrab's server, it is the first server I ever played on and I would be devestated if I lost my town and mushroom city |
| 15:55 |
andersje |
aes-noc amazon.com may be able to pass a message along to the guy |
| 15:55 |
* Sokomine |
nods to evergreen |
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andersje |
suret.net is a french domain name, registered to emmanuel devaux, each.devauxgmail.com -- could that be redcrab? |
| 15:56 |
Sokomine |
redcrab has been absent for longer periods of time before. the reason cactus suspects that he either has to return or the server will be lost is that it has to be paid again in a week |
| 15:56 |
Sokomine |
we did send multiple mails and pns. some seem to have been read (according to the forum), but no reply |
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andersje |
this appears to be redcrab's twitter page: https://twitter.com/redcraby |
| 15:56 |
Sokomine |
even if redcrab returns, having a copy of the map would be good |
| 15:56 |
Sokomine |
are you sure that's "our" redcrab? |
| 15:57 |
andersje |
well, it would make sense...because suret.net is registered by mr. devaux...and this redcrab and mr.devaux were tweeting back and forth |
| 15:57 |
Calinou |
<Sokomine> sfan5 helped me yesterday and made a slightly modified client version that saves what it downloads :-) |
| 15:57 |
Calinou |
such a feature could be added to default game |
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andersje |
that would be an awesome feature. |
| 15:58 |
Sokomine |
that's a good argument then |
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* Calinou |
didn't play on redcrab for like 6 months |
| 15:58 |
Calinou |
it was always out of data :( |
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Calinou |
date* |
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Evergreen |
Redcrab must be saved, we can't lose it like gameboom was lost |
| 15:59 |
andersje |
you guys already found minetestbb.suret.net, right? |
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Calinou |
both servers had great buildings, yeah |
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andersje |
there seems to be some chatter on minetestbb.suret.net, so if anyone has a handle there...there might be contact information for redcrab there. |
| 16:02 |
Sokomine |
that's one of the places successful contact happend a few month ago. then there was no reply anymore |
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andersje |
yeah, mr. devaux is probably your best bet then. |
| 16:03 |
Calinou |
I didn't see redcrab on IRC since march 2013 or so, at best |
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Calinou |
I don't remember |
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PilzAdam |
thexyz, why is weblate still down? |
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RNL |
hi |
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sfan5 |
"Information I got was DNS for suret expires that date." wat |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
if the dns expires we have no problem |
| 16:15 |
sfan5 |
its not like we can't use IP addresses |
| 16:15 |
RNL |
FYI, the translation website linked from the development page on minetest.net is down |
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sfan5 |
RNL: thexyz is supposed to look at that |
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thexyz |
it's up now |
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RNL |
great |
| 16:23 |
Evergreen |
By the way, in case we can't get the server back, pm webdesigner with your eamil so you can be a part of a shared folder on dropbox |
| 16:23 |
Evergreen |
put all hte screenshots you can take and put them in the according folder |
| 16:24 |
Sokomine |
there...happened something. wonder if it was an automatic message |
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yyamiyyugi |
can anyone help me? I'm trying to play a sound to a player upon right clicking my node, but there is an error on line 5 apparently, console says "function arguments expected near ')'" Am I doing the if statement wrong? |
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yyamiyyugi |
(code: http://pastebin.com/BGdYQhdp) |
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kahrl |
yyamiyyugi, in lua and is "and" not "&&" |
| 16:25 |
yyamiyyugi |
oh |
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yyamiyyugi |
ok |
| 16:26 |
yyamiyyugi |
still has the error |
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yyamiyyugi |
:/ |
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kahrl |
try adding quotes around modtest:musicblock |
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yyamiyyugi |
ok |
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sfan5 |
Evergreen: pff.. screenshots, we need the map |
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kahrl |
(I don't know what right_click does so that might be wrong) |
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Evergreen |
Yes, but just in case we can't get the map |
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yyamiyyugi |
i'm not 100% what it does, i would assume it's rightclicking the node |
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yyamiyyugi |
idk, I added quotes, I guess i will have to play with it more |
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MinetestBot |
john_minetest: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-09-08 17:21:54 UTC on #minetest |
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* Jordach |
is playing biogenesis |
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* Jordach |
got a nazi swatstika as a pet |
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sapier |
yyamiyyugi are you sure that "string" is correct? |
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sapier |
armed bear? |
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yyamiyyugi |
might not be |
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sapier |
as far as I know variables are declared either global without any keyword or by "local" <variablename |
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sapier |
> |
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sapier |
john what do you mean with armed bear? |
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PilzAdam |
yyamiyyugi, http://pastebin.com/YkDczKuH |
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PilzAdam |
oops, *sound_play( |
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yyamiyyugi |
oh ok |
| 16:44 |
yyamiyyugi |
I see, thanks for correcting that |
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sfan5 |
pitriss: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-0.4.7-71a8769-saveToLocalMap-win32.7z |
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pitriss |
sfan5: thank you again:) |
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sapier |
do you have a bear model? |
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sapier |
ok then it's a 30 min task to create a mobf mob with exactly that features |
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sapier |
where to find the model? |
| 16:54 |
sapier |
ok if you can provide animation too it'll be way more interesting |
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sapier |
be carefull models tend to become very big with certain ways of animation try to stay <500kb |
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sapier |
ok try to stay < 100kb and at 500kb worst ;-) |
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pitriss |
sfan5: please, where are saved data stored? in game directory? |
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sfan5 |
./localmap/ |
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Yepoleb |
should i discuss bugs here or in the dev channel? |
| 17:06 |
sapier |
most ppl in dev are here to if you already know quite exact what happens go to dev if you don't try to get more information here |
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Yepoleb |
ok, thanks |
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pitriss |
sfan5: ok ty |
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sapier |
john try b3d export format if it's ok without animation .x format is way to big |
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Yepoleb |
i'm trying to replace the menu header, but i can't find a way to do that, because it always gets loaded from minetest_game/menu/header.png |
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PilzAdam |
Yepoleb, the one in the Singleplayer tab is taken from the game, the other tabs use the one in the texture pack |
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Yepoleb |
well, that's the only one you usually see |
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Yepoleb |
it should be possible to replace that one as well |
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sapier |
Yepoleb it is |
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sapier |
if there's a file called <gameid>_menu_<header/footer>.png in your texturepack this overrides the default game one |
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sapier |
wait |
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sapier |
ok should work if I haven't missed something in code try it |
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Yepoleb |
i used the filename minetest_game_menu_header.png and it doesn't work |
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RNL |
How can I start minetest in a different language (Linux Mint, Ubuntu derative)? |
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PilzAdam |
RNL, LANG=de bin/minetest |
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PilzAdam |
(that would be german) |
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PilzAdam |
Yepoleb, try minetest instead minetest_game for the gamename |
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sapier |
if it's slightly above 500kb no problem but 1mb will be to big |
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PilzAdam |
+of |
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RNL |
That does not seem to do the trick on my system... |
| 17:29 |
PilzAdam |
RNL, what language do you want? |
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Yepoleb |
doesn't work either |
| 17:30 |
RNL |
PilzAdam, I'm trying dutch (nl), but de does not work either |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
Yepoleb, does it work with minimal? |
| 17:30 |
Yepoleb |
how can i reload the tp the easiest way? |
| 17:30 |
PilzAdam |
RNL, your system language is dutch too? |
| 17:31 |
RNL |
PilzAdam, no, my system LANG is en_US.UTF-8 |
| 17:31 |
PilzAdam |
does your Minetest build have gettext support? |
| 17:32 |
RNL |
PilzAdam, not sure, I used http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu |
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Yepoleb |
it doesn't work with minimal |
| 17:32 |
thexyz |
"language" option in minetest.conf |
| 17:33 |
thexyz |
I forgot to add it to changelog, will do |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
thexyz, he uses the stable PPA |
| 17:33 |
thexyz |
lol http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog&curid=366&diff=1513&oldid=1510&rcid=1634 |
| 17:33 |
PilzAdam |
RNL, in the game, look at the pause menu |
| 17:34 |
thexyz |
dutch translation is about 67.3%, maybe less in stable |
| 17:34 |
RNL |
PilzAdam, USE_GETTEXT=0 |
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thexyz |
oh |
| 17:35 |
RNL |
PilzAdam, does that mean I have to compile myself? |
| 17:35 |
PilzAdam |
I guess so |
| 17:35 |
RNL |
PilzAdam, I thought I might try to add some dutch translations. That's the reason I wanted it to start in dutch :) |
| 17:37 |
thexyz |
that'd be very nice |
| 17:37 |
RNL |
I'll try :-) |
| 17:38 |
RNL |
On another subject, performance on my machine is sometimes a problem. Is that a know issue and is there any work being done at that at the moment? |
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RNL |
#afk |
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Calinou |
not really |
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* Jordach |
is getting ready to supercharge the Minecraft conversion |
| 17:42 |
Calinou |
it is a known problem, Minetest won't run on toasters |
| 17:43 |
* Jordach |
raids tekkit texture by texture |
| 17:44 |
andersje |
what kind of hardware is he trying to run it on? |
| 17:49 |
RNL |
I'm running minetest on a AMD Phenom II X4 960T, 16 Gb memory, AMD Radeon 6800 series |
| 17:49 |
Calinou |
that should be sufficient, easily |
| 17:50 |
RNL |
I should think so |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
2600K + 570 runs the game with view distance 128 + 4× MSAA + anisotropic filtering on 1920×1080 with at least 60 FPS with a 16× texture pack |
| 17:50 |
Calinou |
it's not like Minetest is too demanding :P |
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Yepoleb |
sapier, the texture thing doesn't work |
| 17:51 |
RNL |
Maybe it's my local setup |
| 17:51 |
Yepoleb |
are you using xfce? |
| 17:51 |
sapier |
I know you should suply the texture as separate png file |
| 17:52 |
Yepoleb |
? |
| 17:53 |
Sokomine |
sapier: your idea to let multiple people download redcrabs map is not bad. it ought to be possible to merge it later on somehow - after all, even leveldb has some unique index - data mapping - and that ought to be enough (combined with documentation of leveldbs storage system) |
| 17:53 |
Sokomine |
how can mapgen for a world be disabled completely? |
| 17:54 |
RNL |
I'm using Mint 13 (Maya) MATE |
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Yepoleb |
are you using a special composite manager? |
| 17:54 |
RNL |
Not that I'm aware of |
| 17:55 |
RNL |
Maybe nfs is the problem |
| 17:55 |
ShadowNinja |
Sokomine: It can't, but singlenode set to air is very close. |
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RNL |
how demanding is minetest on disk IO? |
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sapier |
Yepoleb I use blender and export to b3d format |
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ShadowNinja |
Shouldn't be much, mostly just writing to the sqlite3 DB. |
| 17:56 |
sapier |
you have to install the b3d export filter to blender i have written this to wiki |
| 17:56 |
Sokomine |
yes, singlenode set to air would be helpful. i forgot how to do it. can you tell me the relevant settings, please? |
| 17:57 |
Sokomine |
rnl: vanessa is pretty proud of her ssd, and it seems to be faster with one...but if i look at how the data comes in from redcrabs server currently...perhaps it's transmission by avion carrier :-/ |
| 17:57 |
Yepoleb |
i have a png of the header, why do i need a blender exporter? |
| 17:57 |
Sokomine |
so disk io ought to be relatively harmless |
| 17:58 |
sapier |
ohhh sorry |
| 17:58 |
sapier |
completely different topic :-) |
| 17:58 |
RNL |
Sokomine, I have a SSD installed, but some disk locations are network mapped over nfs |
| 17:58 |
ShadowNinja |
Sokomine: Check minetest.conf.example. |
| 17:59 |
sapier |
no you only have to add a png file with alpha channel |
| 17:59 |
Yepoleb |
i just need the file name and location |
| 17:59 |
RNL |
gtg, thanks for the info |
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Yepoleb |
the file itself is fine |
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sapier |
filename is <gameid>_menu_<footer/header/background/overlay>.png location is the texturepack base path |
| 18:01 |
Sokomine |
rnl: if you connect to a server, the cache file (where pictures, meshes and sounds are stored) may take up several mb (up to 30 have been counted). transmitting that over mt takes a lot of time. for nfs, it ought to be no real challange.... |
| 18:01 |
sapier |
stand and walk should be done at least |
| 18:01 |
Sokomine |
shadowninja: hmpf. hoped you could tell me the right params offhand |
| 18:01 |
sapier |
some rest animation would be good too and as it's a bear a attack animation could be done too |
| 18:01 |
sapier |
but rest and walk is enough to start |
| 18:02 |
Sokomine |
oh, more animals? |
| 18:02 |
sapier |
stand and walk |
| 18:02 |
sapier |
not rest |
| 18:02 |
sapier |
yea john provides a bear model :-) |
| 18:02 |
Sokomine |
i'd still love to see goats, squirrels, rabbits, donkeys |
| 18:02 |
Sokomine |
ah, fine :-)) |
| 18:02 |
Sokomine |
hope he can be persuaded to do more models :) |
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Sokomine |
those of smaller animals usually are more convincing. they can move around easier |
| 18:03 |
Yepoleb |
sapier, i tried {minetest_game, minetest, Minetest}_menu_header.png, but all of them don't work |
| 18:04 |
sapier |
for which game do you want to replace the header? |
| 18:04 |
Yepoleb |
the normal minetest game |
| 18:05 |
andersje |
now the 3d_armor mod has to be updated for bears. Sturmbjorn! |
| 18:05 |
sapier |
gameid is same as foldername in games folder |
| 18:05 |
Yepoleb |
i tried that |
| 18:05 |
sapier |
does 3d_armor mod support ostriches? ;-) |
| 18:05 |
sapier |
I'll have a look maybe there's a bug in that code |
| 18:06 |
Yepoleb |
my file is called minetest_game_menu_header.png |
| 18:06 |
Sokomine |
armoured ostrichs...hm :-) |
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sapier |
no problem john |
| 18:07 |
sapier |
I know about the problems when creating models ... that's main reason why mobf hasn't 500 mobs ;-) |
| 18:09 |
andersje |
man, armoring the neck of an ostrich would be horribly difficult |
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sapier |
hmm seeing this you may need to create a saddle texture too :-) |
| 18:12 |
sapier |
:-) of course |
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sapier |
Yepoleb there's a bug |
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sapier1 |
Yepoleb there's a bug in mm_textures.lua ignoring those files |
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Yepoleb |
are you going to fix it? |
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sapier1 |
replace "local path = mm_texture.basetexturedir .. " in line 133 by |
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sapier1 |
local path = mm_texture.texturepack .. DIR_DELIM .. |
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Yepoleb |
i will wait for the commit |
| 18:23 |
sapier1 |
that'll be some time ;-) usually fixes like that take from 1 to 50 days to be merged ;-) |
| 18:25 |
Yepoleb |
oh, ok |
| 18:26 |
Menche |
i'm guessing "ded" means the server has "server_dedicated" set |
| 18:27 |
Menche |
probably. anyone know if there's a list of what all those abbreviations mean? |
| 18:28 |
Jordach |
RTFS |
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Yepoleb |
thanks sapier, it works! |
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Peacock |
greetings channel people |
| 19:01 |
yyamiyyugi |
hello |
| 19:01 |
Peacock |
gamejam? |
| 19:02 |
Peacock |
"Make a game about a character that traditionally would not be the “hero†of a video game" |
| 19:02 |
Peacock |
sounds like last night's episode of breaking bad lol |
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Peacock |
for minetest? how would that work? |
| 19:03 |
Peacock |
its hard to create different style games for minetest, so much of the engine is geared towards the default game |
| 19:03 |
Menche |
the characters randomly disappear when they're mapblock is unloaded |
| 19:03 |
Menche |
*their |
| 19:04 |
keccia |
how can I use furnace? |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
keccia: put item to smelt at the top, fuel at bottom |
| 19:04 |
Calinou |
*insert spy running while being humiliated here* |
| 19:05 |
Peacock |
though it might interest to know im still working on ages |
| 19:05 |
Peacock |
(pocket dimensions) |
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Peacock |
at 1000*1000*500(height), i have appx. 36K pocket dimensions between y= -25K and y= -30K :D |
| 19:07 |
Peacock |
the biggest PITA is setting different skies and horizons, which i mostly fake with nodes for now |
| 19:08 |
Peacock |
though i wonder how far along RBA's dome idea is |
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Peacock |
back to work on the enterprise, its gonna take forever to finish each deck lol |
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Jordach |
43% of technic textured for MC4MT8 |
| 20:00 |
* Jordach |
has forgot about moreores |
| 20:00 |
* Calinou |
turns moreores into lessores |
| 20:05 |
NekoGloop |
I wonder how glooptest would look in a MC4MT pack |
| 20:05 |
NekoGloop |
>.> |
| 20:05 |
Yepoleb |
i want to use semi-transparency in crack_anylength.png, but it just turns more white |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
weird, it works for me |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
see misa pack |
| 20:06 |
Jordach |
Calinou, http://i.imgur.com/cqTB5gM.png |
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* Jordach |
will be alpha'ing the power bar |
| 20:06 |
Calinou |
-1 for no smooth lighting, AA and anisotropic filtering |
| 20:07 |
Calinou |
:p |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
Calinou, fuck that |
| 20:07 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, hey, IC2 textures |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
you can have your tekkit in techni |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
technic* |
| 20:07 |
NekoGloop |
What's the miner? |
| 20:07 |
Jordach |
miner? |
| 20:08 |
NekoGloop |
Oh, wait, hold a sec |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
you mean the black pickaxe |
| 20:08 |
NekoGloop |
nonono |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
the one with the shovels> |
| 20:08 |
NekoGloop |
yeah |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
john_minetest, fuck that. |
| 20:08 |
Jordach |
NekoGloop, tool repair |
| 20:08 |
NekoGloop |
I forget what that is in IC2. |
| 20:09 |
NekoGloop |
Ah, the crop-matron |
| 20:09 |
Jordach |
(tool repair isnt in IC2, it just looks good for tool repair) |
| 20:09 |
NekoGloop |
(and/or terraformer) |
| 20:10 |
Jordach |
i managed to rip the textures from tekkit 3.1.2 |
| 20:10 |
thexyz |
00:08 +thexyz: we need to make something like minetest translation marathon; like it was with the wiki |
| 20:10 |
NekoGloop |
IC2's textures haven't changed much |
| 20:10 |
NekoGloop |
>.> |
| 20:10 |
Calinou |
we have a decent amount of translations already, but we could have more. |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
I'd love to see the ability to translate messages received from server :P |
| 20:11 |
thexyz |
that's not decent |
| 20:11 |
* Jordach |
thinks 1337 as a language is fine |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
commonly used languages are all well supported right now, no? |
| 20:11 |
thexyz |
only 4 translations are > 90% |
| 20:11 |
thexyz |
http://translate.minetest.ru/projects/minetest/core/ |
| 20:11 |
thexyz |
this is bad |
| 20:11 |
Calinou |
oh, french isn't quite complete now |
| 20:12 |
thexyz |
let's do it next week? |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
I'm completing french a bit right now :P |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
but ok |
| 20:13 |
thexyz |
this doesn't mean you should stop |
| 20:13 |
Calinou |
I know |
| 20:14 |
pitriss |
I tried to translate mt client into czech two months ago.. but it was poinless for me, and I'm using bold fonts so lot of text was not fit into buttons/fields.. |
| 20:15 |
pitriss |
and second issue was I'm too lazy to maintaining it, so I decided to not release it:) |
| 20:16 |
thexyz |
you don't have to maintain it |
| 20:16 |
thexyz |
just register at translate.minetest.ru and translate |
| 20:17 |
pitriss |
i used kbabel in my trinity install:) |
| 20:17 |
thexyz |
pull requests for translations will most likely not be accepted |
| 20:17 |
pitriss |
or how it is named that translation tool for po files. |
| 20:18 |
thexyz |
though new languages are ok |
| 20:18 |
Evergreen |
I just had an idea, someone should make a subreddit for minetest |
| 20:18 |
thexyz |
you mean, like third one? |
| 20:18 |
Evergreen |
Oh, lol |
| 20:18 |
Evergreen |
In that case, which one is official? |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
no one |
| 20:19 |
Calinou |
I don't know, but it'd be nice to have an active one :P |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
no one uses reddit |
| 20:19 |
Evergreen |
We needan official one, it would be cool to shared ideas and stuff |
| 20:19 |
thexyz |
we have forums |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
reddit doesn't encourage creating content, does it? |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
Minetest_c55 has c55 in moderators list |
| 20:20 |
dcoffee |
"we have forums" so we don't even need this irc |
| 20:20 |
thexyz |
dcoffee: no, irc is different |
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| 20:21 |
thexyz |
reddit is like social bookmarking service, do we need it? |
| 20:21 |
thexyz |
minetest is not that popular |
| 20:21 |
dcoffee |
are you sure? :--D |
| 20:22 |
thexyz |
dcoffee: pretty much |
| 20:22 |
dcoffee |
i have using irc since 2003 |
| 20:22 |
Calinou |
since 2009 |
| 20:22 |
thexyz |
wait, what did your "are you sure?" refer to? |
| 20:23 |
dcoffee |
thexyz: are you sure? :--D |
| 20:23 |
dcoffee |
i fixed it. |
| 20:24 |
thexyz |
I don't get it so I'll give up on it |
| 20:24 |
NekoGloop |
"minetest is not that popular" -> "are you sure?" |
| 20:25 |
thexyz |
oh, right, I'm sure |
| 20:26 |
NekoGloop |
meow |
| 20:26 |
thexyz |
there's no point in having subreddit otherwise as forums will suffice |
| 20:26 |
* sfan5 |
pets Natureshadow |
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sfan5 |
derp |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
hahaha |
| 20:26 |
* sfan5 |
pets NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
purrs >w< |
| 20:26 |
* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts a kitten on NekoGloop's head |
| 20:26 |
sfan5 |
john_minetest: I was first >:) |
| 20:26 |
NekoGloop |
double kitties~!!! |
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* sfan5 |
puts a kitten on the kitten on NekoGloop's head |
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* Calinou |
pets a pony |
| 20:27 |
* NekoGloop |
noms the fishy :3 |
| 20:27 |
dcoffee |
thexyz messaged me 23:20:56 this: "dcoffee: no, irc is different" and i answered at 23:21:19: "are you sure?" (it was a bad joke from my part) |
| 20:28 |
thexyz |
bad timed |
| 20:29 |
dcoffee |
"23:21:18 thexyz minetest is not that popular" -> "23:21: 19 dcoffee are you sure? :--D" (one second beetween messages. i'm not that fast typer) |
| 20:29 |
dcoffee |
case closed |
| 20:29 |
* NekoGloop |
slaps thexyz |
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Calinou |
french is done now |
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yyamiyyugi |
whats the easiest way to convert from .mp3 to .ogg? |
| 20:36 |
PilzAdam |
yyamiyyugi, audacity |
| 20:36 |
yyamiyyugi |
ok |
| 20:37 |
PilzAdam |
import mp3, file -> export -> as ogg |
| 20:37 |
yyamiyyugi |
:) thanks |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
catches it |
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* NekoGloop |
cuddles with it >w< |
| 20:43 |
* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
juggles the kittens |
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* sfan5 |
throws a kitten at NekoGloop |
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* NekoGloop |
continues juggling the kittens |
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* Exio4 |
throws sfan5 at NekoGloop |
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Exio4 |
here, other kitten |
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* sfan5 |
puts Derpy Hooves on Exio4's head |
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* NekoGloop |
juggles sfan along with the kittens |
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* Exio4 |
puts Rarity on sfan5's head |
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* john_minetest |
puts everybody in #minetest on Exio4's head |
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* Exio4 |
puts john_minetest on john_minetest's head |
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* sfan5 |
puts Rainbow Dash on Exio4's head |
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* sfan5 |
puts NekoGloop on the kitten on NekoGloop's head |
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| 20:49 |
NekoGloop |
now you're thinking with portals |
| 20:49 |
sfan5 |
yep |
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* Exio4 |
throws a leveldb map at sfan5 |
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* ShadowNinja |
thinks this will acceft the stats. |
| 20:49 |
* sfan5 |
migrates it to SQLite3 |
| 20:50 |
* Exio4 |
migrates sfan5 to dummy |
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* Exio4 |
closes minetest |
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* ShadowNinja |
thinks that is should at least. :-) |
| 20:50 |
* sfan5 |
just got deleted :( |
| 20:50 |
* NekoGloop |
migrates Exio4 to dev/null |
| 20:50 |
* ShadowNinja |
gets out backup. |
| 20:51 |
* Exio4 |
uses an intel-sponsored /dev/random to regenerate |
| 20:51 |
* ShadowNinja |
chmod's sfan5 to 700. |
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* sfan5 |
ducks for incoming commit spam |
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* Exio4 |
git pulls |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Use system-wide LevelDB instead of bundled one 3725179736 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/vTvejA |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Prevent ModMgr from deleting backend setting in world.mt 1f3402e7a1 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/wxVEFA |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Make --migrate update world.mt too 49a75b1894 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/izY2Zw |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Add note about --migrate only working with minetestserver or --server 321ac66558 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/uwszAA |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Fix 'Unknown map backend' error when using Configure menu right after creating world d423a8fc20 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/pLcvvA |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Use STL containers instead of irr::core::list f1e4a671dc 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/Oa3n4g |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Add message that LevelDB is not supported on Windows 1cc1c56234 2013-09-09T13:50:51-07:00 http://git.io/qbM7jg |
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MinetestBot |
GIT: sfan5 commited to minetest/minetest: Make it compile 7e44c2ace1 2013-09-09T13:50:50-07:00 http://git.io/Ds94Bg |
| 20:52 |
Exio4 |
ehm... |
| 20:52 |
MinetestBot |
GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Add dummy and LevelDB database backends 58841ef12f 2013-09-09T13:50:50-07:00 http://git.io/_2vXZQ |
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Exio4 |
sfan5 |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
yes? |
| 20:52 |
Exio4 |
squash? |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
nah |
| 20:52 |
Exio4 |
before the 10 minutes passes? |
| 20:52 |
sfan5 |
nah |
| 20:52 |
Exio4 |
k.. |
| 20:53 |
Yepoleb |
minetestbot will get kicked for spam |
| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
sfan5: MinetestBot reports them in reverse order. |
| 20:53 |
sfan5 |
just noticed that too |
| 20:53 |
ShadowNinja |
Yepoleb: My bot ignores MinetestBot. |
| 20:53 |
Exio4 |
sfan5, it is adding useless crap to the history though |
| 20:53 |
Yepoleb |
what is your bot able to do? |
| 20:54 |
ShadowNinja |
Yepoleb: Lots, see /msg ShadowBot list [plugin]. |
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| 21:20 |
Evergreen |
Here's another fish for you NekoGloop >))))))*> |
| 21:21 |
thefriedeggs66 |
Fried eggs: http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/3637/udbm.png |
| 21:23 |
Evergreen |
Also, here is some catnip for NekoGloop http://www.catniptoys.com/product_images/uploaded_images/budz2004harvest.jpg |
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NekoGloop |
http://i.imgur.com/qwPAmsi.png\ |
| 21:24 |
NekoGloop |
Well, apparently it works. I guess. |
| 21:25 |
Exio4 |
i just tried the math mapgen |
| 21:25 |
Exio4 |
98% light errors |
| 21:26 |
NekoGloop |
welcome to minetest |
| 21:26 |
Exio4 |
nah |
| 21:26 |
Exio4 |
proller: ^^ |
| 21:27 |
proller |
withch errors |
| 21:28 |
NekoGloop |
nobody likes my tool? |
| 21:29 |
thefriedeggs66 |
nobody likes my fried eggs? |
| 21:30 |
thefriedeggs66 |
o_O |
| 21:30 |
Exio4 |
let me upload a screenshot proller |
| 21:30 |
NekoGloop |
They look like fried eggs, I guess |
| 21:30 |
thefriedeggs66 |
what's your tool? |
| 21:30 |
proller |
Exio4, light in minetest is one big error |
| 21:30 |
NekoGloop |
Sword |
| 21:31 |
NekoGloop |
Of sorts |
| 21:31 |
Peacock |
light sucks like an electrolux, yes |
| 21:31 |
thefriedeggs66 |
ahh, looks kinda like the one that Pyramid Head carries around in Silent HIll 2 |
| 21:31 |
Exio4 |
yes, but it only appears to the caves on "math" |
| 21:31 |
Exio4 |
not everywhere |
| 21:32 |
Exio4 |
actually, nevermind |
| 21:32 |
Peacock |
i still get intense shadows and bright spots on my large blueprint spawns, the only solution anyone can propose is using voxmynipples to fix the lighting :P |
| 21:32 |
proller |
Exio4, its ok for ~flat magpgen, but not ok with 3d. you can fidd absolute darkness in floatlands when falling |
| 21:32 |
proller |
Exio4, you can disable caves |
| 21:33 |
Exio4 |
yeah |
| 21:33 |
Exio4 |
proller: http://exio4.com.ar/screenshots/glitches_math.png |
| 21:34 |
NekoGloop |
Exio4, no glooptest? :< |
| 21:34 |
proller |
need t fixing light |
| 21:34 |
Peacock |
well while youre at it using post_effect_color to do colored lights :P |
| 21:35 |
proller |
Exio4, btw math contain 3 types of world |
| 21:35 |
proller |
and in -next 10+ |
| 21:36 |
Exio4 |
# Math mapgen generator: sphere, mandelbox, mengersponge dont forget to lower water_level = -30000 |
| 21:36 |
Exio4 |
i c, i should have lowered water_level :P |
| 21:36 |
NekoGloop |
Glooptest makes it playable |
| 21:36 |
NekoGloop |
ish |
| 21:36 |
Exio4 |
sure |
| 21:36 |
NekoGloop |
treasure chests! |
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Exio4 |
:( |
| 21:37 |
Exio4 |
minetest crashed on exit |
| 21:39 |
Peacock |
so everything normal:P |
| 21:39 |
ak399 |
trying to configure minetest irc for xchat -- what is the network address? |
| 21:40 |
Exio4 |
you mean for the irc network? |
| 21:40 |
Exio4 |
irc.freenode.net |
| 21:40 |
ak399 |
yeah |
| 21:40 |
Exio4 |
it is probably on the default list |
| 21:40 |
ak399 |
alright, give me a second |
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ak399 |
is this working? |
| 21:42 |
Exio4 |
i think |
| 21:42 |
Exio4 |
who are you? ;P |
| 21:42 |
ak399 |
cool :D |
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Exio4 |
wow, the leveldb seems way faster |
| 21:42 |
ak399 |
I'm mostly a lurker in the forums, but I've been working on some mods for a server of mine recently |
| 21:43 |
PilzAdam |
Exio4, is it faster than mapgen? |
| 21:44 |
PilzAdam |
AFAIK mapgen is faster than sqlite |
| 21:44 |
NekoGloop |
inb4 "except with glooptest" |
| 21:44 |
Exio4 |
PilzAdam: at least here it looks like so |
| 21:44 |
Peacock |
leveldb, so fast you can't fap while the world loads |
| 21:45 |
Exio4 |
well, with math mapgen that is |
| 21:45 |
Exio4 |
gonna try with v6 |
| 21:47 |
Exio4 |
well |
| 21:47 |
Exio4 |
v6 is too fast here |
| 21:47 |
Exio4 |
damn you hmmmm, you shouldn't make the mapgen this fast! |
| 21:48 |
Exio4 |
since some change he did to the mapgen i was able to go with "max speed" without waiting for mapblocks to generate with v6 |
| 21:52 |
proller |
Exio4, try https://github.com/minetest/minetest/pull/897 or proller:next branch |
| 21:53 |
Peacock |
i noticed lighting isn't fucked up with mapgen, just when you use an awful lot of add nodes |
| 21:53 |
Exio4 |
897? |
| 21:54 |
proller |
you can fall via mengersponge without stuck |
| 21:55 |
Peacock |
what are these math mapgens actually good for? (as in practical use) |
| 21:55 |
NekoGloop |
there isn't |
| 21:56 |
Peacock |
ive seen more practical features turned down for "lack of usefulness" :p |
| 21:56 |
NekoGloop |
unless you play with glooptest and rely on my treasure chests |
| 21:56 |
Exio4 |
yes |
| 21:56 |
Exio4 |
this sucks |
| 21:57 |
Exio4 |
actually what i said about leveldb is a lie based on my soft-OC |
| 21:57 |
Exio4 |
my whole life is a lie now |
| 21:57 |
proller |
Peacock, for fun |
| 21:57 |
NekoGloop |
Peacock, that's because devs are tyrants |
| 21:58 |
Peacock |
proller there are a shitton of other pulls that would have be fun too, and actually had mods waiting to use them :p |
| 21:58 |
Exio4 |
i'll play with oecake until i sleep |
| 21:59 |
NekoGloop |
Yes, but when a dev makes something it's instantly put in regardless of how shit it is |
| 21:59 |
Peacock |
nekogloop like liquid range :p |
| 21:59 |
Peacock |
air pockets galore |
| 21:59 |
NekoGloop |
when we lowly community members make something, it's simply ignored |
| 21:59 |
proller |
Peacock, https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=7033 |
| 21:59 |
Peacock |
i saw that :-) its encouraging :) |
| 21:59 |
FreeFull |
I wonder what's up with the air pockets |
| 22:00 |
FreeFull |
Those weren't really there in the older mapgens |
| 22:00 |
FreeFull |
At least, not everywhere |
| 22:00 |
FreeFull |
You can see them all rising when you turn finite liquids on |
| 22:00 |
Peacock |
colored lights, animated (waving) plants, real (low-lying) fog, shit like that would be fun :-) |
| 22:01 |
Peacock |
defining nodeboxes by verticles (for slopes) also :-) |
| 22:01 |
proller |
FreeFull, i 90% know how to silently pop bubbles without rising |
| 22:01 |
proller |
and maybe fix it soon |
| 22:01 |
Peacock |
freefull i have no idea where the air pockets come from, i was told to add a few lines to minetest.conf, but they still remain |
| 22:02 |
Peacock |
*vertices not verticles lol |
| 22:04 |
proller |
i want make adjusted mengersponge for wingsuit contest, it can be fun |
| 22:04 |
Peacock |
in theory a spherical map would be fun, but with the proper gravity |
| 22:04 |
Peacock |
otherwise all you can do with it is a deathstar |
| 22:06 |
FreeFull |
Peacock: Seems to me like the automatic water node filling in isn't happening |
| 22:06 |
FreeFull |
By that I mean the same thing you get when you make an infinite water source |
| 22:06 |
Peacock |
maybe its got to do with the viscosity >1 bug |
| 22:07 |
Peacock |
either way, finite liquids used to just work, now they dont :( |
| 22:07 |
Peacock |
*infinite |
| 22:07 |
Peacock |
whatever the fuck they call the old liquids lol |
| 22:07 |
PilzAdam |
Peacock, call them "real" liquids to troll proller |
| 22:08 |
Peacock |
ill just call them low-CPU liquids for now :P |
| 22:08 |
NekoGloop |
real liquids aren't infinite |
| 22:08 |
Peacock |
im sorry, i thought minetest didn't care about realism :P |
| 22:08 |
proller |
finite must be renamed |
| 22:08 |
proller |
and can be true finite |
| 22:08 |
FreeFull |
DM destroyer liquids |
| 22:10 |
PilzAdam |
proller, btw, something random I made some time ago because I was bored: https://github.com/PilzAdam/minetest/commit/01a5a164226a92af6fdfe4b5df69603525a261f2 |
| 22:10 |
proller |
one small step to make erosion |
| 22:11 |
FreeFull |
Rain would help |
| 22:11 |
FreeFull |
And something so you can have rivers |
| 22:12 |
PilzAdam |
proller, the commit I linked adds liquidtype = "finite" and drawtype = "finite_liquid" to nodedef |
| 22:12 |
Peacock |
does that mean old liquids will work like before? |
| 22:13 |
proller |
PilzAdam, what this... |
| 22:13 |
Peacock |
or was the airpocket thing fixed with 991 or 990 |
| 22:15 |
proller |
PilzAdam, its totally destroys my liquid idea |
| 22:15 |
PilzAdam |
proller, what is your idea? |
| 22:16 |
proller |
transformLiquidsFinite |
| 22:16 |
proller |
did you know how it works? |
| 22:16 |
PilzAdam |
not really |
| 22:18 |
proller |
making other draw type - bad |
| 22:18 |
PilzAdam |
why? |
| 22:19 |
proller |
you want to keep old and new liquids in one world? |
| 22:19 |
FreeFull |
I think the ultimate antigrief device would be lava that cannot be picked up in any way whatsoever, and when you break blocks around it it doesn't pour, and you can't place blocks in it |
| 22:19 |
PilzAdam |
proller, yes |
| 22:19 |
proller |
PilzAdam, for what? |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
mods may want to add finite oil, while water can stay the same |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
(same == current liquids) |
| 22:20 |
proller |
same shit? |
| 22:20 |
proller |
ok |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
no, not the same shit |
| 22:20 |
PilzAdam |
same goodness ;-) |
| 22:21 |
proller |
why no make all liquids real and finite? |
| 22:21 |
FreeFull |
Because that's not fun |
| 22:21 |
PilzAdam |
proller, I dont want to force people to use one kind of liquid |
| 22:22 |
proller |
FreeFull, not fun what? |
| 22:22 |
FreeFull |
What if you want to make a waterfall? |
| 22:22 |
proller |
you can |
| 22:22 |
proller |
look at Sky server |
| 22:22 |
PilzAdam |
for 10 seconds? and then? |
| 22:23 |
proller |
it have forever waterfalls |
| 22:23 |
proller |
from infinity sources |
| 22:23 |
PilzAdam |
so finite liquids arent finite? |
| 22:23 |
NekoGloop |
that's why proller hates it |
| 22:23 |
proller |
look up^^ |
| 22:23 |
NekoGloop |
because waterfalls are hate |
| 22:24 |
proller |
"finite must be renamed" |
| 22:24 |
proller |
it CAN be finite |
| 22:24 |
proller |
and can be with normalized 0-level |
| 22:25 |
proller |
now by default its have good balance |
| 22:25 |
PilzAdam |
also, my finite liquids commit only has 1 liquid node; a second one is not needed |
| 22:26 |
Exio4 |
pizza \o/ |
| 22:26 |
proller |
no problem to make one in liquid63 branch |
| 22:26 |
proller |
sand have one |
| 22:27 |
proller |
but two better for abm optimizing |
| 22:28 |
proller |
my can be true-constant-volume |
| 22:28 |
proller |
and liquid act as liquid |
| 22:30 |
PilzAdam |
why do you want to make sand a liquid? |
| 22:30 |
NekoGloop |
quicksand, duh |
| 22:31 |
proller |
PilzAdam, try in in -next |
| 22:31 |
proller |
to build something from sand |
| 22:31 |
proller |
or in Sky server |
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