Time Nick Message 00:00 LinuxGuy2020 Hello I have downloaded and built 0.4.7 on my Debian 7 desktop machine. I want to run the minetest-server on my newly built mini-itx headless server. Im not sure how to run the program as a damon I guess you would call it, where it runs in the background all the time like ftp, ssh, samba does on the same server. I asked in the debian channel but one of the mods is a troll and sent me here. 00:01 * Evergreen dumps a bucket of lava on STHGOM's head 00:01 Evergreen (jk) 00:01 Menche you'd have to make the service file or whatever yourself, i think 00:02 Menche i have cron run the minetestserver command 00:04 LinuxGuy2020 If minetest-server isnt started as a service then it will tie up the terminal until its stopped wont it? 00:05 Menche unless you use cron, nohup, or a multiplexer, yes 00:05 LinuxGuy2020 ok Ill do some more reading on those. Thank you. 00:05 Menche i have cron call a script every minute that starts mintestserver if it isn't already running 00:06 Menche used to use tmux 00:07 STHGOM hi 00:07 Menche this is the script i use: http://pastebin.com/YuFaYvCJ 00:08 Menche (im not sure whether or not i need those exports) 00:09 PilzAdam Menche, AFAIk you dont need "export" when the variable is only relevant in the script 00:09 Menche i kinda thought that; i haven't made a lot of sh scripts 00:10 Menche only recently memorized how to use for loops 00:12 Exio4 PilzAdam: puppy? 00:13 PilzAdam no, nyu is a bad op 00:13 Exio4 he is sleeping 00:13 Exio4 (party time) 00:14 PilzAdam fine 00:15 LinuxGuy2020 Ok cool so "nohup minetest-server" added to the /etc/rc.local seems like it may be the easiest way for me to run the minetest-server as a background process every time the server is started up (if it ever gets shutdown or power outage). This brings up another question. If I have the minetest-server running and people on the local lan are playing, power goes out or whatever that causes the system to have to be restarted, is there any c 00:16 Exio4 what 00:16 Menche if the server suddenly shuts down, and players on will get the message SERVER SHUTTING DOWN 00:16 Exio4 they won't if the server crashes 00:17 Exio4 (the most likely reason of why they get disconnected) 00:17 LinuxGuy2020 Ok sounds good to me. Ill just try it and see how it goes. Thank you guys. 00:21 Menche google thinks i'm using chromium 00:22 Menche (im actually using dwb) 00:22 Menche wonder how they detect that 00:31 khonkhortisan your web browser tells the website 00:31 khonkhortisan through a user agent 00:32 Menche html5test.com gets it right 00:32 Menche whatbrowser.org thinks im using chromium 00:47 STHGOM hello 01:04 LinuxGuy2020 Ok here is an odd question I successfully have a minetest server running using "nohup /path/minetestsever". It starts as root though. Is this the way it should be ran or should a make it run as a normal user? 01:04 ShadowNinja LinuxGuy2020: It should definitely NOT run as root. 01:05 ShadowNinja LinuxGuy2020: Any mods will have total controll over your system. 01:05 LinuxGuy2020 ShadowNinja: happen to know what I need to do in order to get it to run as a new user named "minetest"? 01:06 Menche would "su user command" work? 01:06 ShadowNinja su minetest -c "/path/minetestserver" 01:07 LinuxGuy2020 Ah yes just reading about that. Thanks guys! 01:08 Evergreen I have to do this thing called "sleep". Catch you guys later 01:11 * Menche is attempting to download music from amazon 01:12 Menche apparently you can't from linux 01:12 Menche it seems that now you need a special amazon media player (for windows only, naturally) 01:18 jojoa1997 bbi5 01:21 Menche ...and this amazon media player I need doesn't even work in wine 01:22 * Menche gives amazon an expressive single digit 01:23 Menche wait, maybe it'll work if i get flash 01:23 * Menche doesn't know why he should need flash to download a file 02:05 PilzAdam bye 02:25 VanessaE anyone care to see a dressform I made? 02:26 yyamiyyugi what exactly is vessel for? Like what exactly does it do to a node? 02:28 Menche currently they're just there to provide items for use by mods 02:29 Menche vessels have no use in the default minetest_game currently 02:31 yyamiyyugi like, what can I use it for? 02:31 yyamiyyugi I made my node a vessel but it doesn't seem diffrent in anyway 02:32 Menche you made your node a vessel? what did you do exactly? 02:33 yyamiyyugi atleast i think i did, I added vessel in the groups 02:34 Menche don't think that does anything besides make a new group and put your node in it 02:34 yyamiyyugi oh :/ 02:35 VanessaE originally I wrote them to use with unified dyes, but they've since been obsoleted. 02:36 yyamiyyugi ok, just playing around with the groups and stuff and couldn't figure out what it did XD 03:40 Mossmanikin bye, later 04:31 Vazon dang it Smellys not on 04:31 Vazon Miner_48er are you there 04:31 Miner_48er yes 04:31 Vazon im so ticked 04:32 Vazon Miner go to the #vazon 04:32 Miner_48er on what? 04:33 Vazon her 04:33 Vazon here 06:17 Miner_48er any kill cmd mods? 06:18 Menche huh? 06:21 Miner_48er or spawn mods? 06:22 Menche i had one called inventorywarp 06:22 Menche one function was to suicide 06:23 Menche (at least i think it was inventorywarp that provided that) 06:24 Mr_Round hey? 06:24 Menche hello 06:24 Menche irc's kinda quiet right now 06:24 Mr_Round can some one tell me how to fix the lag when placeing blocks? 06:25 Menche singleplayer or multiplayer? 06:25 Mr_Round always single 06:25 Mr_Round lol i dont do mullti 06:25 Menche try adding "disable_anticheat = true" to minetest.conf 06:25 Menche or saying "/set disable_anticheat true" 06:26 Mr_Round going to test it 06:27 Mr_Round okay it didnt seem to help it any 06:28 Mr_Round lol nope 06:28 Menche try adding the settings here to minetest.conf: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=1825 06:28 Menche it says it's for a server; your technically running a local server in singleplayer 06:29 Menche did you quit minetest completely before editing the conf file? iirc minetest saves on shutdown 06:29 Mr_Round yes 06:30 e1z0 morning 06:31 Mr_Round thats fixed it i think 06:32 Mr_Round okay u guys are awesome. how about the png interlace thing 06:34 Menche the PNG warning? it's harmless 06:34 Menche idk what it's for, but i notice it alot 06:34 Mr_Round png warning: Interlace handleing should be turned on when useing 06:34 Menche yeah that 06:34 Mr_Round yeah im trying to get a smoother set up 06:34 Mr_Round i do apprecieate the help tho dude 06:35 Mr_Round any thing else i should do. i did the fps thing 06:36 Menche fps thing? 06:36 Mr_Round Minimum FPS = 60 wanted_fps = 100 fps_max = 500 06:37 Menche i don't see any reason to move the cap above 60, as my monitor only refreshes that fast 06:37 Mr_Round so you think it should all be 60? 06:37 Menche idk 06:38 Menche i don't usually change that 06:38 Mr_Round yeah well minecraft java bs annoys me 06:38 Menche i usually enable mip-mapping and anisotropic filtering 06:38 Menche really, really cuts down noise in the distance 06:39 Mr_Round so just turn those on? 06:39 Menche yeah 06:39 Menche iirc minecraft doesn't have either 06:39 Menche if it takes a while to start the game, disable Preload item visuals 06:40 Mr_Round yeah i have that off already 06:41 Mr_Round okay another problem i have is it dont safe my levels 06:41 Menche ? 06:42 Mr_Round like every time i leave and come back the blocks placed are gone like i didnt do any work 06:42 Menche you mean it's not saving your worlds? 06:42 Mr_Round seems so 06:42 Menche does it give you warnings about map saving being disabled? 06:42 Mr_Round ill cheak 06:43 Mr_Round nope 06:44 Menche hmm, are you sure that you don't have any other instances of minetest running? 06:44 Mr_Round yeah im 87% sure 06:45 Mr_Round okay theres only one client open block place and its not saving 06:45 Menche does the world folder contain a file called "map_meta.txt" and if so does that file contain anything? 06:46 Mr_Round in both worlds 06:46 Mr_Round im going to try to remove/delete the world start a new 06:46 Menche yeah try that, im out of ideas 06:48 Mr_Round lol it spawns me in randoms 06:48 Menche you were just spawning in different places? 06:48 Mr_Round yeah 06:49 Menche you can change that by setting "static_spawnpoint = x,y,z" in your minetest.conf 06:49 Mr_Round how do i get the chords 06:50 Menche F5 06:51 Mr_Round \do i need the chords? or just the static_spawn thing 06:51 Menche you set static_spawn to the coords you want to spawn at 06:54 Mr_Round lol i must be doing it wrong lol 06:54 Menche what did you set it to? 06:55 Mr_Round 16.3,1.5,8.9 06:55 Menche should work 06:56 Mr_Round is theree a /setspawn kinda deal? 06:56 Menche no 06:56 Menche well, you can "set static_spawnpoint x,y,z" 06:56 Menche */set 06:57 Mr_Round yay lol that worked 06:58 Mr_Round okay now on minecraft i have the tmi mod is there a = to that for minetest 06:58 Mr_Round and is there a fix for the directx9 thing i dont like my gl card much 07:00 Menche what is the tmi mod? 07:00 Mr_Round like has a searchbar for items/blocks 07:00 Mr_Round it also give you the block id and what not 07:01 Mr_Round has a all the blocks like minetest does but in a larger string to soo more blocks 07:01 Menche searching in the world or the inventory? 07:01 Mr_Round well its mostly a Op tool for building in creative 07:02 Menche what is it exactly? like a search bar in the creative inv? 07:02 Mr_Round yeah pretty much 07:03 Menche i think there was something like that but i forget the name 07:03 Calinou TMI = Too Many Items 07:03 Mr_Round yes lol 07:03 Calinou unified_inventory lets you search in items 07:03 Calinou https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=3933 07:03 Mr_Round its clean right? 07:04 Calinou clean? 07:04 Menche may want to re-enable preload item visuals if you use unified inv 07:04 Menche or it'll take a while to open 07:04 Calinou I don't use it and it works fine 07:05 Calinou you may have to wait 2-4 seconds the first time you open inv or switch a page 07:05 Mr_Round ok 07:07 Mr_Round thats what i needed for that and is there a world edit wand? like instead of useing the /pos2 i can click and right click 07:07 Menche type //p set 07:07 Menche then punch the corners 07:08 Mr_Round oh and it will do 1 and 2? 07:08 Menche you punch both corners after //p set 07:09 Menche what directx9 thing were you asking about? 07:10 Mr_Round well i would like to use directx instead of opengl2.1 and it gives me a error 07:10 Menche you need a build that supports directx 07:11 Mr_Round well isnt it suported on 4.7? 07:11 Menche there's a few sticky topics in General Discussion that have builds 07:11 Menche it depends on the compiler 07:11 Mr_Round im on windows 07:12 Mr_Round so i would need a .exe im not to savey on doing that on windows at the moment 07:12 Menche windows builds can be made with visual c++ or mingw; i believe only builds from visual c++ support directx 07:12 Menche a few people have made builds 07:12 Mr_Round is there a 4,7 build? 07:13 Menche looks like most 3rd party builds are of the latest development version 07:14 Mr_Round 3rd party.... would be a clean install? 07:14 Mr_Round like why 3rd party open sourced garbage people who think they know what there doing but dont 07:14 Mr_Round ....? 07:15 Menche don't think they have code modifications, just 3rd party builds of the official code 07:16 Mr_Round link for a directx9 set up... im doing all this for my nephews bday present. 07:16 Mr_Round would i have uninstall the one i have on here now 07:17 Menche they're run-in-place, they aren't really "installed" 07:17 Menche but it's a different installation 07:18 Mr_Round so a folder and a... sh or a bat exucuteable? kindalike a portable version? 07:18 Menche a folder with a .exe executable 07:18 Menche in the bin/ folder 07:19 Mr_Round so the install i have now would be safe just have a folder on my desktop kinda like windows version of nestopia? 07:19 Menche yeah. idk what nestopia is but you'd run it from wherever you put the folder 07:20 Menche https://forum.minetest.net/viewforum.php?id=3 07:20 Mr_Round you got a link for this? if i could put it in a flash or a sd card and have it ware ever 07:20 Menche that's the General Discussion forums, look at the stickies at the top 07:21 Mr_Round okay 07:21 Menche BlockMen says his supports directx 07:21 Menche iirc Fess's does too and is 64-bit 07:22 Mr_Round blockman? so look for his name on the stick 07:23 Menche https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6727 07:23 Menche that one 07:23 Mr_Round thank i just read that one and click download when u sent the link 07:25 Mr_Round i cant just copy the config i have already made right? 07:26 Menche you can 07:26 Mr_Round awesome imma try it 07:26 Menche and the world folder too 07:29 Mr_Round and the texture all 07:32 Mr_Round im getting a access violation.... 07:36 Mr_Round DUDE this is working any mods you recoment make it more minecraft minus java lol 07:38 Menche BlockMen has a lot of mods that add MC-like stuff 07:38 Menche mines: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6307 07:38 Menche torches: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6099 07:38 Menche crafting: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=5641 07:39 Menche hud & hunger: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=6342 08:04 VanessaE "Debian comes in the flavours ancient, old and broken, nicknamen stable, testing and unstable ;)." 08:04 VanessaE ain't it the truth :D 08:09 VanessaE good morning, Taoki 08:23 JamesTait Good morning all, happy Monday and happy Wonderful Weirdos Day! :-D 08:23 VanessaE good morning 08:24 VanessaE oh so it's my day, eh? 08:24 VanessaE :) 08:24 Calinou it's my day too :D 08:26 JamesTait Me three. :) 11:49 PilzAdam Hello everyone! 11:52 PilzAdam spam: https://forum.minetest.net/search.php?action=show_user_posts&user_id=7275 11:52 PilzAdam (the first one in a long time) 14:03 sfan5 hi everyone 14:04 jojoa1997 Ello 14:05 jojoa1997 How would I have a craftitem turn into a different one with a command 14:06 Vazon hello anyone seen Smelly????? 14:14 Vazon still need to find smelly.....hmmmmm 14:54 Vazon Smelly ???? 15:00 PilzAdam Vazon, stop 15:00 PilzAdam dont come here every 10 minutes and then leave again 15:01 PilzAdam you can either wait for him here or look at the user list at the right 15:01 PilzAdam but dont say his name every 10 minutes, thats annoying 15:02 Vazon sorry im on a cell i cant se the list 15:07 jojoa1997 How would I change a craftitem init another craftitem ,midgame with a command! 15:07 jojoa1997 . 15:07 jojoa1997 ? 15:18 yyamiyyugi whats up 15:19 kahrl !up linuxgaming.us 15:19 MinetestBot linuxgaming.us:30000 is up (507ms) 15:20 sfan5 plol 15:22 GNADev|zRokh hi 15:31 yyamiyyugi is there a way I can play a sound only for a certain player? 15:38 Sokomine it takes a considerate amount of time to load the world...of a server 15:38 Sokomine based on the amount of data i get, it can't be slow network connection 15:38 Calinou yyamiyyugi: you can, as far as I know 15:38 Calinou see lua_api.txt 15:38 Calinou Sokomine: you mean, to connect to a server? 15:39 Calinou by default, mods are downloaded directly from server, not from web 15:39 yyamiyyugi I mean like, the player presses somthing they hear a sound 15:39 IceCraft Hello 15:39 Sokomine no, to get the map data from a server 15:39 Sokomine i'm trying to save as much of redcrabs server as i can 15:40 yyamiyyugi is there a way to do that client side, like say I pressed a gui thing, would i beable to get a sound from the players client instead of the server (so they would be able to use it on any server or add their own sounds) 15:41 sapier mods aren't downloaded at all 15:41 sapier only textures and models are downloaded, no difference if their origin is a mod or core 15:43 Sokomine for example, it takes very long to be able to see the eiffel tower on redcrabs server in full - let alone the landscape 15:47 Sokomine right now, it seems i do not have to fear running out of disc space soon..... 15:47 sapier :-) 15:48 sapier how big is the map? 15:49 Sokomine the map as such? extremly big. to my knowledge, more than 10 gb 15:49 Sokomine i do not intend to record all of it. nobody's intrested in abandomed mines 15:49 sapier wow ... any chance to compress it prior transfer? 15:50 Sokomine ...or in places where people went only to get some papyrus (does not regrow there) 15:50 Sokomine right now,now way to get the map as such 15:50 Sokomine sfan5 helped me yesterday and made a slightly modified client version that saves what it downloads :-) 15:51 sfan5 s/downloads/gets sent by the server/ 15:51 Sokomine there is no known way to contact redcrab, the server owner. we do not know if the server will continue to exist for more than a week 15:51 sapier oh 15:51 Sokomine yes. and i'm amazed as to how few data that actually is. it takes a long time for the world to built (has been like this before). perhaps the server sends it slowly 15:52 sfan5 Sokomine: redcrabs map can't be bigger thab 4gb if he uses sqlite 15:52 Sokomine the 4gb limit was reached some time ag 15:52 sapier hmmm 1 week is a little bit to short to create a client that uses multiple users for simultanous download 15:53 andersje have you guys tried to contact the owner of the IP of redcrab's server? 15:53 andersje you could do a whois on that, and get the owner of the netblock. since someone is paying for the IP, that registered owner should be able to get hold of the guy paying the bills 15:54 sfan5 whois says "No match for "REDCRAB.SURET.NET"." 15:54 andersje alternately, if redcrab stopped paying, he may be willing to let someone else take over the bill 15:54 andersje it's an amazon IP, in ec2 15:54 sfan5 whois says amazon ec2 15:54 Evergreen I sure hope you can save the redcrab's server, it is the first server I ever played on and I would be devestated if I lost my town and mushroom city 15:55 andersje aes-noc@amazon.com may be able to pass a message along to the guy 15:55 * Sokomine nods to evergreen 15:55 andersje suret.net is a french domain name, registered to emmanuel devaux, each.devaux@gmail.com -- could that be redcrab? 15:56 Sokomine redcrab has been absent for longer periods of time before. the reason cactus suspects that he either has to return or the server will be lost is that it has to be paid again in a week 15:56 Sokomine we did send multiple mails and pns. some seem to have been read (according to the forum), but no reply 15:56 andersje this appears to be redcrab's twitter page: https://twitter.com/redcraby 15:56 Sokomine even if redcrab returns, having a copy of the map would be good 15:56 Sokomine are you sure that's "our" redcrab? 15:57 andersje well, it would make sense...because suret.net is registered by mr. devaux...and this redcrab and mr.devaux were tweeting back and forth 15:57 Calinou sfan5 helped me yesterday and made a slightly modified client version that saves what it downloads :-) 15:57 Calinou such a feature could be added to default game 15:58 andersje that would be an awesome feature. 15:58 Sokomine that's a good argument then 15:58 * Calinou didn't play on redcrab for like 6 months 15:58 Calinou it was always out of data :( 15:58 Calinou date* 15:58 Evergreen Redcrab must be saved, we can't lose it like gameboom was lost 15:59 andersje you guys already found minetestbb.suret.net, right? 15:59 Calinou both servers had great buildings, yeah 16:01 andersje there seems to be some chatter on minetestbb.suret.net, so if anyone has a handle there...there might be contact information for redcrab there. 16:02 Sokomine that's one of the places successful contact happend a few month ago. then there was no reply anymore 16:03 andersje yeah, mr. devaux is probably your best bet then. 16:03 Calinou I didn't see redcrab on IRC since march 2013 or so, at best 16:03 Calinou I don't remember 16:08 PilzAdam thexyz, why is weblate still down? 16:14 RNL hi 16:15 sfan5 "Information I got was DNS for suret expires that date." wat 16:15 sfan5 if the dns expires we have no problem 16:15 sfan5 its not like we can't use IP addresses 16:15 RNL FYI, the translation website linked from the development page on minetest.net is down 16:16 sfan5 RNL: thexyz is supposed to look at that 16:18 thexyz it's up now 16:19 RNL great 16:23 Evergreen By the way, in case we can't get the server back, pm webdesigner with your eamil so you can be a part of a shared folder on dropbox 16:23 Evergreen put all hte screenshots you can take and put them in the according folder 16:24 Sokomine there...happened something. wonder if it was an automatic message 16:24 yyamiyyugi can anyone help me? I'm trying to play a sound to a player upon right clicking my node, but there is an error on line 5 apparently, console says "function arguments expected near ')'" Am I doing the if statement wrong? 16:24 yyamiyyugi (code: http://pastebin.com/BGdYQhdp) 16:25 kahrl yyamiyyugi, in lua and is "and" not "&&" 16:25 yyamiyyugi oh 16:26 yyamiyyugi ok 16:26 yyamiyyugi still has the error 16:26 yyamiyyugi :/ 16:27 kahrl try adding quotes around modtest:musicblock 16:27 yyamiyyugi ok 16:27 sfan5 Evergreen: pff.. screenshots, we need the map 16:27 kahrl (I don't know what right_click does so that might be wrong) 16:28 Evergreen Yes, but just in case we can't get the map 16:28 yyamiyyugi i'm not 100% what it does, i would assume it's rightclicking the node 16:29 yyamiyyugi idk, I added quotes, I guess i will have to play with it more 16:32 MinetestBot john_minetest: zeg9 was last seen at 2013-09-08 17:21:54 UTC on #minetest 16:35 * Jordach is playing biogenesis 16:35 * Jordach got a nazi swatstika as a pet 16:37 sapier yyamiyyugi are you sure that "string" is correct? 16:37 sapier armed bear? 16:37 yyamiyyugi might not be 16:38 sapier as far as I know variables are declared either global without any keyword or by "local" 16:38 sapier john what do you mean with armed bear? 16:42 PilzAdam yyamiyyugi, http://pastebin.com/YkDczKuH 16:42 PilzAdam oops, *sound_play( 16:43 yyamiyyugi oh ok 16:44 yyamiyyugi I see, thanks for correcting that 16:47 sfan5 pitriss: http://sfan5.duckdns.org/minetest-0.4.7-71a8769-saveToLocalMap-win32.7z 16:47 pitriss sfan5: thank you again:) 16:49 sapier do you have a bear model? 16:50 sapier ok then it's a 30 min task to create a mobf mob with exactly that features 16:50 sapier where to find the model? 16:54 sapier ok if you can provide animation too it'll be way more interesting 17:00 sapier be carefull models tend to become very big with certain ways of animation try to stay <500kb 17:01 sapier ok try to stay < 100kb and at 500kb worst ;-) 17:04 pitriss sfan5: please, where are saved data stored? in game directory? 17:04 sfan5 ./localmap/ 17:05 Yepoleb should i discuss bugs here or in the dev channel? 17:06 sapier most ppl in dev are here to if you already know quite exact what happens go to dev if you don't try to get more information here 17:07 Yepoleb ok, thanks 17:08 pitriss sfan5: ok ty 17:09 sapier john try b3d export format if it's ok without animation .x format is way to big 17:15 Yepoleb i'm trying to replace the menu header, but i can't find a way to do that, because it always gets loaded from minetest_game/menu/header.png 17:15 PilzAdam Yepoleb, the one in the Singleplayer tab is taken from the game, the other tabs use the one in the texture pack 17:16 Yepoleb well, that's the only one you usually see 17:20 Yepoleb it should be possible to replace that one as well 17:20 sapier Yepoleb it is 17:21 sapier if there's a file called _menu_
.png in your texturepack this overrides the default game one 17:21 sapier wait 17:22 sapier ok should work if I haven't missed something in code try it 17:26 Yepoleb i used the filename minetest_game_menu_header.png and it doesn't work 17:27 RNL How can I start minetest in a different language (Linux Mint, Ubuntu derative)? 17:28 PilzAdam RNL, LANG=de bin/minetest 17:28 PilzAdam (that would be german) 17:29 PilzAdam Yepoleb, try minetest instead minetest_game for the gamename 17:29 sapier if it's slightly above 500kb no problem but 1mb will be to big 17:29 PilzAdam +of 17:29 RNL That does not seem to do the trick on my system... 17:29 PilzAdam RNL, what language do you want? 17:29 Yepoleb doesn't work either 17:30 RNL PilzAdam, I'm trying dutch (nl), but de does not work either 17:30 PilzAdam Yepoleb, does it work with minimal? 17:30 Yepoleb how can i reload the tp the easiest way? 17:30 PilzAdam RNL, your system language is dutch too? 17:31 RNL PilzAdam, no, my system LANG is en_US.UTF-8 17:31 PilzAdam does your Minetest build have gettext support? 17:32 RNL PilzAdam, not sure, I used http://ppa.launchpad.net/minetestdevs/stable/ubuntu 17:32 Yepoleb it doesn't work with minimal 17:32 thexyz "language" option in minetest.conf 17:33 thexyz I forgot to add it to changelog, will do 17:33 PilzAdam thexyz, he uses the stable PPA 17:33 thexyz lol http://dev.minetest.net/index.php?title=Changelog&curid=366&diff=1513&oldid=1510&rcid=1634 17:33 PilzAdam RNL, in the game, look at the pause menu 17:34 thexyz dutch translation is about 67.3%, maybe less in stable 17:34 RNL PilzAdam, USE_GETTEXT=0 17:34 thexyz oh 17:35 RNL PilzAdam, does that mean I have to compile myself? 17:35 PilzAdam I guess so 17:35 RNL PilzAdam, I thought I might try to add some dutch translations. That's the reason I wanted it to start in dutch :) 17:37 thexyz that'd be very nice 17:37 RNL I'll try :-) 17:38 RNL On another subject, performance on my machine is sometimes a problem. Is that a know issue and is there any work being done at that at the moment? 17:40 RNL #afk 17:42 Calinou not really 17:42 * Jordach is getting ready to supercharge the Minecraft conversion 17:42 Calinou it is a known problem, Minetest won't run on toasters 17:43 * Jordach raids tekkit texture by texture 17:44 andersje what kind of hardware is he trying to run it on? 17:49 RNL I'm running minetest on a AMD Phenom II X4 960T, 16 Gb memory, AMD Radeon 6800 series 17:49 Calinou that should be sufficient, easily 17:50 RNL I should think so 17:50 Calinou 2600K + 570 runs the game with view distance 128 + 4× MSAA + anisotropic filtering on 1920×1080 with at least 60 FPS with a 16× texture pack 17:50 Calinou it's not like Minetest is too demanding :P 17:51 Yepoleb sapier, the texture thing doesn't work 17:51 RNL Maybe it's my local setup 17:51 Yepoleb are you using xfce? 17:51 sapier I know you should suply the texture as separate png file 17:52 Yepoleb ? 17:53 Sokomine sapier: your idea to let multiple people download redcrabs map is not bad. it ought to be possible to merge it later on somehow - after all, even leveldb has some unique index - data mapping - and that ought to be enough (combined with documentation of leveldbs storage system) 17:53 Sokomine how can mapgen for a world be disabled completely? 17:54 RNL I'm using Mint 13 (Maya) MATE 17:54 Yepoleb are you using a special composite manager? 17:54 RNL Not that I'm aware of 17:55 RNL Maybe nfs is the problem 17:55 ShadowNinja Sokomine: It can't, but singlenode set to air is very close. 17:55 RNL how demanding is minetest on disk IO? 17:55 sapier Yepoleb I use blender and export to b3d format 17:56 ShadowNinja Shouldn't be much, mostly just writing to the sqlite3 DB. 17:56 sapier you have to install the b3d export filter to blender i have written this to wiki 17:56 Sokomine yes, singlenode set to air would be helpful. i forgot how to do it. can you tell me the relevant settings, please? 17:57 Sokomine rnl: vanessa is pretty proud of her ssd, and it seems to be faster with one...but if i look at how the data comes in from redcrabs server currently...perhaps it's transmission by avion carrier :-/ 17:57 Yepoleb i have a png of the header, why do i need a blender exporter? 17:57 Sokomine so disk io ought to be relatively harmless 17:58 sapier ohhh sorry 17:58 sapier completely different topic :-) 17:58 RNL Sokomine, I have a SSD installed, but some disk locations are network mapped over nfs 17:58 ShadowNinja Sokomine: Check minetest.conf.example. 17:59 sapier no you only have to add a png file with alpha channel 17:59 Yepoleb i just need the file name and location 17:59 RNL gtg, thanks for the info 18:00 Yepoleb the file itself is fine 18:00 sapier filename is _menu_