IRC log for #minetest, 2013-09-08

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00:48	Smelly	Okay Xiong I am on IRC what did you have to tell me that you cant ingame chat
00:49	xiong	Smelly, we can discuss anything in ingame chat, in theory. But it doesn't work very well; which makes the discussion chaotic.
00:49	xiong	Let me suggest that we talk about Vazon's server in irc.linuxgaming.us #vazon, since I don't know of a better channel. Where we're at isn't great for server-specific discussion.
00:49	Smelly	Ah I see. It can go flying by sometimes
00:50	Smelly	I was in #vazon and #Vazon
00:50	Smelly	no one was in their
00:51	xiong	???
00:51	Smelly	My bad
00:51	Smelly	I was on wrong irc
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01:06	paramat	Lua voxel manipulator version of flatten mod is here for testing http://www.mediafire.com/download/yn41ydz92y6lrpw/flatten040paramat.zip
01:06	paramat	I can't test it, error messages are welcome :)
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01:12	Inocudom	How many of you have tried out Hybrid Dog's sumph mod? It adds swamps to Minetest.
01:13	PilzAdam	its sumpf, not sumph
01:19	Inocudom	How many of you have tried out sumpf?
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01:26	khonkhortisan	What mod has quarter-slab stairs?
01:26	PilzAdam	bye
01:27	STHGOM	is it possible to attach an entity to a player?
01:27	khonkhortisan	the player is attached to an entity when you are riding in a cart
01:27	khonkhortisan	but idk
01:28	STHGOM	im thinking an entity with a name on it: https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4846
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01:30	STHGOM	hi
01:30	[0gb_us]	Hello!
01:31	Inocudom	The swamp and mushroom mods by Hybrid Dog are very good mods.
01:32	[0gb_us]	Does anyone here know why the stairs register function prefixes nodes with "stairs:" instead of "<current plugin name>:"? Always prefixing with "stairs:" negates the good of the namespace. If, for example, three different plugins want to register a concrete slab, the first two will be overwritten.
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01:33	[0gb_us]	G'night!
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01:33	STHGOM	night
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01:33	Inocudom	oOChainLynxOo made a new Minetest video recently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgHW7nnRkdg&feature=c4-overview&list=UUGBOAQUgqCUtDA-4L4mHVzA
01:34	khonkhortisan	[0gb_us], then load that node and only override a part of it. A function to do this should really be added to minetest.
01:34	[0gb_us]	I want to pull request a couple optimizations to stairs, but I think someone wants to keep the incorrect prefix issue, which would get my pull request denied. If it's just going to be denied, I don't see a reason for me to make the pull request.
01:34	khonkhortisan	Then make the changes only without changing the name?
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01:35	[0gb_us]	khonkhortisan, that doesn't help, as there should be three DIFFERENT concrete slabs, one for each concrete plugin, but the current method only allows one concrete slab.
01:35	khonkhortisan	that's a problem with concrete
01:35	[0gb_us]	It's a problem with the slab register function.
01:36	khonkhortisan	no
01:36	Inocudom	Why so many versions of concrete anyway?
01:36	khonkhortisan	if there was dirt from every mod, registering dirt stairs would force only one dirt
01:37	[0gb_us]	The slab register function prefixes the node with "stairs:", when it should prifix with "concrete_a:", "concrete_b:", and "concrete_c:".
01:37	[0gb_us]	Yes, and forcing one dirt would be a problem.
01:37	ShadowNinja	[0gb_us]: Pull request it but have it make aliases stairs: --> modname: for a while.
01:37	[0gb_us]	Concrete was only an example.
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01:38	[0gb_us]	ShadowNinja, I'll do that. Once I get feedback from the pullers. As I said, I don't want to write the code if the pullers already plan to reject it.
01:38	STHGOM	goodbye
01:39	[0gb_us]	Goodbye.
01:39	khonkhortisan	Let's say one concrete was liquid, and two were solid. The two solid ones should be merged into a single node, all concrete having the same texture, with stairs based on the solid one.
01:40	[0gb_us]	khonkhortisan, the problem is that only the concrete STAIRS AND SLABS would be muged. The full concrete blocks would not be merged, so if you made stairs out of concrete_a full nodes, you'd end up with concrete_b slabs.
01:40	ShadowNinja	khonkhortisan: If you join Vanessa's server you will see that there are two different types of concrete, with different textures and uses.
01:43	Inocudom	http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Najx0elMupI
01:44	[0gb_us]	I'd love to be able to call the functions from stairs in my new project, but if they are going to remain bugged, I suppose I'll have to include a working copy of the functions in my own scripts. It looks like I have to rewrite the functions either way.
01:44	Inocudom	This video can be good inspiration for a peaceful mob type that can be kept as a pet and as a friend. Isn't it cute?
01:44	khonkhortisan	concrete is concrete. It should have a single texture, a single node, a single set of stairs, and be supported by both mods. The problem is not with the stairs, it is only a result.
01:45	khonkhortisan	If I made an acid that burned concrete, I would have this same problem.
01:45	Inocudom	The video is of a drone carpenter bee that can't sting.
01:46	[0gb_us]	If people want only a single type of concrete, they just won't install both types. But if they DO install both types, they should both WORK without a namespace clash.
01:47	[0gb_us]	Your acid would only burn through one type of concrete full node, but all concrete slabs and stairs. That wouldn't make much sense.
01:47	Inocudom	I think the different types of concrete have their own variation of texture in VanessaE's HDX texture packs.
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01:48	[0gb_us]	They do, yes.
01:48	khonkhortisan	if they are truly different, the nodename should be different as well, such as concrete_wet, concrete_gravelly
01:48	[0gb_us]	Not if they were in different plugins ...
01:49	[0gb_us]	If each plugin only has one type of concrete slab, it isn't going to add suffixes.
01:51	[0gb_us]	Male carpenter bees have no stinger ... interesting.
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02:11	[0gb_us]	I'll be back in about an hour. Later!
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03:10	imthescatguy	hey
03:10	[0gb_us]	Hello!
03:11	imthescatguy	i just put a texture pack in the texture pack folder, how do i use it?
03:11	[0gb_us]	Open the game (must be the dev version) and select the texture pack tab.
03:12	imthescatguy	dev version?
03:12	khonkhortisan	When you start minetest, does it have the tabs SinglePlayer\|Client\|Server\|Settings\|Texture Packs\|Mods\|Credits?
03:12	imthescatguy	no
03:12	[0gb_us]	The unstable one.
03:12	[0gb_us]	So you can't do it in yours yet.
03:12	imthescatguy	i got the 0.5.7
03:12	imthescatguy	i mean
03:12	khonkhortisan	hehe 57
03:12	imthescatguy	0.4.7
03:12	imthescatguy	do i get the new one?
03:12	imthescatguy	how
03:13	Inocudom	Try the current development build by either sfan5, Fess, or BlockMen.
03:13	khonkhortisan	Or attempt compiling
03:13	[0gb_us]	0.4.7 is the newest, but the texture pack feature is newer than the newest. You may have to compile it.
03:13	[0gb_us]	Or try one of those builds.
03:13	imthescatguy	im hetting the sfan version
03:14	khonkhortisan	the tablesaw made me think I didn't have any quarter slabs
03:14	imthescatguy	whats a tablesaw?
03:14	imthescatguy	sorry im new
03:15	imthescatguy	i put my texture pack folder in the textures folder
03:15	[0gb_us]	It's something added by a plugin.
03:15	imthescatguy	i mean the zip
03:15	[0gb_us]	It's not in the main game.
03:15	imthescatguy	but its not working
03:15	[0gb_us]	Unzip it.
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03:16	imthescatguy	thanks
03:17	[0gb_us]	Any time.
03:23	VanessaE	ShadowNinja: there are three, actually - technic, prefab, and "cement" in glooplocks.
03:23	VanessaE	gloopblocks*
03:23	VanessaE	which may as well be concrete also.
03:24	[0gb_us]	THat's why we need to fix stairs ... or an example of why, anyway.
03:24	VanessaE	afaik, only the prefab one lacks a connection to stairsplus/moreblocks (though it still has slabs/stairs I think)
03:25	VanessaE	omg that an ordeal by the way... the previously-mentioned sewing hasn't begun yet...I just spent the last three hours making a dressform.
03:25	[0gb_us]	Moreblocks doing it right (if it does it right, I haven't checked) is no excuse for the default to do it wrong.
03:25	VanessaE	(Red Green would be proud, as I did it this way: http://www.threadsmagazine.com/item/3631/close-fit-duct-tape-dress-form )
03:26	[0gb_us]	Duct tape has so many uses!
03:27	VanessaE	should it move, but it doesn't? WD-40! Does it move and it shouldn't? DUCT TAPE!
03:27	VanessaE	:)
03:28	[0gb_us]	VanessaE, I don't understand the L-system tree generation. Is this some sort of advanced tool, or is it something simple that I'm not getting?
03:28	VanessaE	[0gb_us]: it's confusingly simple :)
03:28	[0gb_us]	Confusingly simple, eh? I don't know whether to be relieved or worried.
03:29	VanessaE	[0gb_us]: imagine you're a turtle. You are given one of three operations: Move forward (f and F), turn left/right (um, - and + I think), pitch up/down (& and ^)
03:29	VanessaE	you start out looking straight up
03:29	[0gb_us]	Turtle as in sea reptile?
03:29	VanessaE	as in LOGO, the programming language of old.
03:29	[0gb_us]	I have no idea what a turtle is then.
03:29	VanessaE	but if you prefer, think of an airplane.
03:30	VanessaE	four commands, excuse me. move forward, yaw left/right, pitch up/down, or roll clockwise/counter-clockwise
03:30	khonkhortisan	kturtle is a program that does logo
03:31	VanessaE	move forward goes in 1m steps. yaw/pitch/roll goes in N degree steps, where N = the "angle" parameter in your tree deg.
03:31	VanessaE	def.*
03:31	khonkhortisan	hey I've heard that WD-40/duct-tape one before
03:34	FreeFull	VanessaE: I think WD-40 melts plastic
03:34	VanessaE	FreeFull: no, but I wouldn't be surprised if it melts styrofoa
03:34	VanessaE	styrofoam*
03:35	FreeFull	Styrofoam is a plastic
03:35	VanessaE	yep
03:35	VanessaE	but a particular type
03:36	FreeFull	Polystyrene
03:36	VanessaE	stuff like model glue will melt it in short order, meanwhile the same stuff doesn't affect regular plastic nearly as much
03:36	VanessaE	yep
03:36	VanessaE	Styrofoam I think is a brand name
03:37	FreeFull	It is
03:38	FreeFull	The generic name is extruded polystyrene foam
03:50	khonkhortisan	buildings melt cars
03:51	FreeFull	The walkie talkie does
03:52	khonkhortisan	as a generalization, communication devices destroy transportation devices
04:03	Inocudom	This cute creature could be a good peaceful mob: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Najx0elMupI
04:04	[0gb_us]	That bee is interesting. I hadn't heard of stingerles bees before.
04:04	Inocudom	Male carpenter bees can't sting. Only the females can.
04:05	[0gb_us]	Yeah, Wikipedia told me that a bit ago.
04:06	VanessaE	no but they sure scare the shit out of you when they bump into you
04:07	[0gb_us]	Ha ha, yeah, I imagine they do.
04:08	VanessaE	that apartment we lived in in Missouri until a few years ago had a fair number of those little black bastards always buzzing around (owing to the wood siding/shingles of the buildings). Scared me every time I saw them
04:08	VanessaE	(I don't like bees getting too close to me, stinging or not)
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04:09	[0gb_us]	I know, me neither. Better bees than wasps though. Wasps are mean. Not only are they more likely to sting, but they also bite. And a wasp can sting several times, while a bee stings once, then dies.
04:09	VanessaE	true that
04:09	VanessaE	bees can bite too
04:09	Inocudom	You would definitely not like yellow jackets then. Those things are... extremely... nasty.
04:10	VanessaE	I remember reading something years ago, this guy had trapped a bee behind a window screen, and cornered, the bee chose to gnaw its way out.
04:10	[0gb_us]	Yeah, yellow jackets and hornets are bad too.
04:10	[0gb_us]	I didn't know bees bit though.
04:10	VanessaE	I doubt they bite in practice though, this particular one just used its jaws (or whatever they're called) to cut a hole through the screen to escape
04:11	yyamiyyugi	hello
04:11	VanessaE	hi
04:11	[0gb_us]	Hello!
04:11	Inocudom	And their nests are like something out of a horror film. That is why I think yellow jackets would make for a good hostile mob.
04:11	yyamiyyugi	lol hornets?
04:12	VanessaE	Inocudom: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Waspinator_%28BW%29 <-- make him into a mob :-)
04:12	yyamiyyugi	my bro had one on the back of his laptop screen the other day
04:12	yyamiyyugi	he flipped out
04:13	yyamiyyugi	^^Told by the best story teller ever XD
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04:13	yyamiyyugi	VanessaE, I hope it would be Rare
04:16	Inocudom	Here is a video of the southern yellow jacket (it builds massive paper horrors:) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGEsVkruBg0&feature=player_detailpage
04:21	Inocudom	My idea is that they and their paper nests could be an additional mining hazard. The nests could be set on fire, but the yellow jackets could put out the fire.
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04:22	jojoa1997	hi
04:22	Inocudom	The paper nests would be deep underground of course, as if to be inspired by the Cherokee story of the giant yellow jacket.
04:23	[0gb_us]	Hello!
04:23	VanessaE	oy, keep those right away from me!
04:23	VanessaE	hey jojo.
04:23	VanessaE	jojoa1997: just pull'ed. :)
04:23	VanessaE	(inb4 "update my mod plz")
04:24	Inocudom	What was it that got pulled?
04:24	VanessaE	display_blocks
04:25	jojoa1997	oh cool
04:25	VanessaE	oh cool, check out this badass PC: http://www.overclock.net/t/1424387/gallery-build-log-ultimate-wall-mount-rig-maxxplanck-v2-completed
04:26	OldCoder	R
04:27	[0gb_us]	That's interesting. WHy not put it in a box though, for more compact use?
04:27	VanessaE	he wanted to make an art piece out of it
04:28	VanessaE	though it really should be inside a minimal plexi case
04:30	Inocudom	Even if you make a computer, you still have to get the needed parts (some of which can be expensive.)
04:31	VanessaE	nod
04:31	VanessaE	says in the build log that he got most of it from a PC he'd already built before
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04:35	yyamiyyugi	Anyone have a suggestion for a good first mod? I went through and made a block using the intro thing.
04:38	VanessaE	that's one of the best ways actually. Make a block, then make a few variants of it. Then make some code that changes the block to something else when you punch it (for example). Then make the block do something useful when punched, like changing the surrounding blocks into something else. Then work on formspecs so your block can have a menu/UI
04:38	VanessaE	and then just kinda go from there
04:39	VanessaE	wherever your imagination and the apparent "what else does the community seem to lack" leads you
04:39	yyamiyyugi	So far I have made a block, made it spawn over grass, then made it turn to wood after so long
04:39	VanessaE	good
04:40	VanessaE	so you've got the basics down
04:40	VanessaE	now let your imagination take over :)
04:41	yyamiyyugi	will do :)
04:49	yyamiyyugi	Goodnight everyone
04:50	VanessaE	good night
04:50	[0gb_us]	G'night.
04:50	[0gb_us]	Oops, too late.
04:50	VanessaE	think I'll do the same. sooo tired from working on that dressform (and I still have to stuff and mount it)
04:51	[0gb_us]	G'night VanessaE.
04:51	arsdragonfly	Good night
04:51	VanessaE	night all.
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05:25	nore	hi all
05:25	[0gb_us]	Hello!
05:25	arsdragonfly	Hi
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06:07	sfan5	hi everyone
06:07	nore	hi sfan5
06:09	arsdragonfly	Hello sfan5
06:11	hoodedice	YO
06:15	[0gb_us]	Hello!
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06:20	* sfan5	now has a shiny new Linux 3.11 kernel running
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06:21	aldobr	hi all
06:21	sfan5	hi
06:21	arsdragonfly	Hi
06:21	[0gb_us]	Hello!
06:22	* arsdragonfly	thought he travelled back in time
06:22	hoodedice	Patents : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oracle_Corporation#Lawsuit_against_Google
06:22	sfan5	!title
06:22	MinetestBot	sfan5: Oracle Corporation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
06:23	arsdragonfly	The last time I saw the latest kernel it was like 3.9.2
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06:31	aldobr	i played portal for the first time
06:31	aldobr	man, i love glados
06:33	hoodedice	(And that's why patents are useless)
06:34	[0gb_us]	What do you mean?
06:34	[0gb_us]	I'm not a fan of patents myself, but I don't see your point here.
06:34	[0gb_us]	OH!
06:35	[0gb_us]	Sorry, I thought you were on the GLaDOS thing.
06:35	khonkhortisan	does minetest not have a portal gun yet?
06:36	khonkhortisan	ofc it would only work on a wall that was at least 2x1
06:36	[0gb_us]	I think Jordach made one for Minetest.
06:37	arsdragonfly	That would be fun
06:37	khonkhortisan	you wouldn't be able to see through it, it would just be a teleport
06:37	khonkhortisan	and lag may not keep the travel speed
06:37	khonkhortisan	but they should be quickly movable
06:38	arsdragonfly	E.g. making an object fall constantly between two portals
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06:54	hoodedice	lol
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06:54	hoodedice	(Ping me next time)
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07:08	khonkhortisan	I don't like licensing. Sure it's needed, but someone else can deal with it.
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07:39	MinetestBot	GIT: Jeija commited to Jeija/minetest-mod-mesecons: Update Microcontroller Tutorial and add .odt source for the .pdf 9ab0d9deb2 2013-09-08T02:38:01-07:00 http://git.io/Ouq5ZQ
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07:41	nore	wtf??? "Jeija authored in 2 hours"
07:41	nore	on github
07:41	Jeija	Actually I pushed something just a second ago...
07:42	nore	yes, but why does it say: 2 hours in the future
07:43	Jeija	Maybe github does not publish the exact date of authoring anymore?
07:43	Jeija	Because now it says 5 minutes ago
07:46	nore	not for me... must be something with time zones
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07:47	Jeija	It can't be my computer or anything, it also happened when editing stuff online (which I rarely do)
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07:57	khonkhortisan	you'd expect it to throw an error with a backwards time difference
07:57	hoodedice	Back to the future
07:59	nore	the most stunning thing that that it even has text for that! (i.e., not -2 hours ago)
08:01	arsdragonfly	What if I try store a negative integer number into an unsigned variable in C?
08:01	hoodedice	" Jeija authored in 2 hours"
08:01	hoodedice	Yup. Same schist
08:02	nore	arsdragonfly, I think you will get numbers like 2^64+[your negative number]
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08:04	arsdragonfly	nore, thx, now I recall the mechanism
08:05	khonkhortisan	they're probably using a standard time-difference-to-string library
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08:33	hoodedice	zwiz this !
08:33	hoodedice	Android emu was taking damn long to load. Googling, everyone's like 'Yeah, that's normal"
08:34	hoodedice	Then I found out that from the log that it's actually caught up in an infinity loop
08:34	hoodedice	-.-
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08:47	VanessaE	I'd say thats....not normal.
08:47	VanessaE	good morning, Taoki.
08:48	arsdragonfly	Abnormal, but frequent
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08:49	hoodedice	What is?
08:49	arsdragonfly	That android emu thingy
08:50	VanessaE	G*D DAMN IT.. I'm gonna ban this guy from the forums soon if he doesn't quit abusing the spoiler tag. https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?pid=109441#p109441
08:50	sfan5	DO IT! DO IT! DO IT!
08:50	VanessaE	I said "soon" :P
08:51	hoodedice	oohkay
08:51	sfan5	does your texture pack have the yellow lightstone textures?
08:51	sfan5	^ VanessaE
08:51	VanessaE	mine? yes
08:51	hoodedice	cya later peeps
08:51	VanessaE	need a render for the website?
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08:53	sfan5	maybe
08:54	VanessaE	hm, insulated t-junctions, corners, mese block, LuaC need it too
08:59	sfan5	am I doing something wrong? https://github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/blob/master/jeija_lightstone_yellow_off.png
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09:00	sfan5	ohh... its jpg
09:00	VanessaE	https://raw.github.com/VanessaE/hdx-512/master/jeija_lightstone_yellow_on.jpg
09:00	VanessaE	(or _off)
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09:01	VanessaE	ok, got the renders...editing.
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09:04	arsdragonfly	NEWS: minetest 0.4.7 released -> how long has it been since that?
09:04	VanessaE	months
09:04	VanessaE	3-odd I guess
09:04	sfan5	!op
09:05		Topic for #minetest is now http://minetest.net \| NEWS: Minetest 0.4.7 released; 0.4.8 will be released soonâ„¢ \| RULES: be patient, respect other users, here and in other channels \| CORE DEVS: #minetest-dev \| SERVERS: http://minetest.net/servers \| IRC LOGS: http://irc.minetest.ru/minetest/ \| WIKI: http://wiki.minetest.net \| Task of the Day: Bring fish for everykitten!
09:05	sfan5	!deop
09:05	arsdragonfly	Lolz
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09:10	VanessaE	sfan: http://digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/mesecons-website-rendering-update-2013-09-08.zip
09:10	MinetestBot	GIT: Novatux commited to minetest/minetest: Add minetest.get_gametime() API function, that returns the number of seconds since the world was created. 6291fd1cbb 2013-09-08T02:09:50-07:00 http://git.io/34ik-A
09:10	VanessaE	(I don't remember how to update the mesecons website)
09:11	sfan5	I gave the link to Jeija
09:11	VanessaE	ok
09:12	VanessaE	haha! I forgot to disable fire burning stuff in my singleplayer install.. the spawn on my "testing" copy of the creative server just burnt down :D
09:14	Jeija	got it, thx VanessaE
09:14	VanessaE	oh no prob
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09:14	VanessaE	didn't realize you were still online :D
09:15	Jeija	not still, again
09:15	VanessaE	ok, "again" :P
09:15	Jeija	^^
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09:25	e1z0	good day
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09:58	nore	wait, should pulls for minetest_game be discussed in #minetest or #minetest-dev?
09:59	sfan5	-dev
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10:43	sfan5	[15872.594008] BUG: unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at (null)
10:43	sfan5	yep thats how it works
10:45	VanessaE	that's about as useful as "C++ exception" in Lua :P
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10:47	sfan5	perfect
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10:47	sfan5	if you remove a device without unmounting and then try to unmount the kernel consumes 100% cpu on one core
10:50	VanessaE	nice
10:50	VanessaE	someone wasn't paying much attention I guess. Seems like a VERY easy mistake to make for the average user.
10:51	sfan5	well
10:51	sfan5	I dd'd some data on a currently mounted ext4 partition
10:52	VanessaE	now THAT would take some effort for an average n00b to do :)
11:05	kahrl	good morning y'all
11:06	VanessaE	mornin' kahrl
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11:18	MinetestBot	GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Run updatepo.sh 71a8769bb5 2013-09-08T04:16:19-07:00 http://git.io/Va_nRQ
11:18	MinetestBot	GIT: xyzz commited to minetest/minetest: Add fallback font support for some languages. 6de16bb438 2013-09-08T04:16:19-07:00 http://git.io/GY8iRA
11:19	PilzAdam	Hello everyone!
11:19	VanessaE	morning' PilzAdam
11:22	nore	hi
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11:31	* arsdragonfly	hails the fallback font commit
11:31	arsdragonfly	Hurray XD
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12:47	PilzAdam	thexyz, am I allowed to ask why weblate is down?
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13:12	dsadel	just learnt aboyt minetest, does it have redstone
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13:12	dsadel	well i'm out
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13:51	Calinou	it's not like this channel is too busy
13:51	Calinou	you've never seen #ubuntu or such
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14:01	Calinou	pfft
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14:03	Calinou	skype is just bad
14:03	Calinou	inb4 lynched
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14:13	Morrolan	What is Crevis? :)
14:13	Morrolan	My google-fu fails me. :(
14:13	jojoa1997	does anyone know how the..
14:13	OldCoder	Hm?
14:13	jojoa1997	header for minetest_game was made
14:13	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:14	Morrolan	Ah. :)
14:14	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:14	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:14	OldCoder	Do they comply with license issues?
14:15	OldCoder	Crevis that is ^
14:15	Morrolan	I don't think complying with issues is an expression which makes sense. :D
14:15	OldCoder	Comply with licenses, then
14:15	Morrolan	:)
14:15	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:15	OldCoder	I am still at work afer about 24 hours
14:15	OldCoder	Ha
14:15	OldCoder	What is MT license again?
14:15	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:15	jojoa1997	FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
14:16	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:16	OldCoder	jojoa1997, yes but free how? What is license?
14:16	jojoa1997	does anyone know how the header for minetest_game was made
14:16	OldCoder	CC or GNU etc.
14:16	* jojoa1997	remembers...
14:16	Morrolan	GPL.
14:16	jojoa1997	an adam sanler movie
14:16	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:16	jojoa1997	sec
14:16	Morrolan	LGPL, that is.
14:16	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:17	OldCoder	Hmm
14:17	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:18	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:19	Morrolan	My coworker likes sublime.
14:19	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:20	Morrolan	Has a free trial version.
14:20	* Prestotron562	likes Komodo Edit
14:20	Morrolan	Then there's geany, which is free, and quite okay.
14:20	Morrolan	Of course, Emacs and Vim are popular choices, too.
14:20	jojoa1997	bedtime stories free ferari. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGVNHGe40gs
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14:21	OldCoder	Prestotron562, there are dozens of good editors for Linux
14:21	OldCoder	It is a matter of personal preference; not one right answer
14:22	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:22	OldCoder	bluefish, e3, emacs, ex, geany, joe, leafpad; wide range
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14:23	Morrolan	Install a bunch from Ubuntu's repos, and use them for a few days each. :)
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14:25	Morrolan	Bad connection, it seems. :)
14:25	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:25	Morrolan	Still waiting for the original nick to time out, though. :D
14:26	Morrolan	Ah. There we go.
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14:28	Morrolan	One left. :)
14:28	Morrolan	e1z0__: You alive? :D
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14:34	jojoa1997	does anyone know how the header for minetest_game was made
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14:34	jojoa1997	no the header
14:35	jojoa1997	minetest_game/menu/header.png
14:35	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:36	Prestotron562	[deleted]
14:38	jojoa1997	no i meant how someone made the picture
14:38	jojoa1997	i am making a game and want a header like that
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14:39	proller	Prestotron562, here is only one way to reduce flood and noobs - CLOSE IRC CLIENT NOW!
14:39	VanessaE	heh
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14:39	* jojoa1997	kick all non noobs
14:39	* jojoa1997	remembers he is not a noob OH NO!
14:40	jojoa1997	bbl
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14:49	yyamiyyugi	hello
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14:53	pitriss	PilzAdam: hi, I want to ask about your nether mod: on landrush server when i dig 4 netherrack blocks, then i get only one netherrack in inventory.. It is bug, feature or some setting?
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15:03	Jordach	BrandonReese, that guy who was spamming on your server topic is banned for a day
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15:18	* Prestotron562	is officially a developer and a modder
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15:20	yyamiyyugi	nice
15:20	Jordach	Lua code isn't developing, kahrl and hmmmm would agree to that
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15:21	proller	Prestotron562, you officially is a noob and a flooder
15:21	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:21	kahrl	Jordach, I wouldn't
15:21	kahrl	minetest-game developments is welcome in #-dev
15:21	kahrl	-s
15:22	yyamiyyugi	pitriss you still here?
15:23	pitriss	yyamiyyugi: yes
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15:24	yyamiyyugi	it's a feature, you can change it by opening init.lua and finding the netherrack node then changing rarity to 1 for a netherrack everytime
15:24	pitriss	ahh thank you..:)
15:25	yyamiyyugi	(I did this for my singleplayer world just now)
15:25	yyamiyyugi	np
15:25	yyamiyyugi	is there any documentation or anything on rarity group?
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15:26	yyamiyyugi	I can't find it in the lua_api.txt
15:26	yyamiyyugi	or is it a custom thing?
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15:40	* Prestotron562	and Zeg9 teamed.
15:41	yyamiyyugi	is there any documentation or anything on rarity group? or is it a custom thing?
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15:43	Jordach	Prestotron562, simple_mobs or MOBF, take your poison
15:43	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:44	Jordach	Prestotron562, they were called Dungeon Masters and Oerrkis
15:44	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:57	PilzAdam	Prestotron562, please dont create #minetest-help
15:57	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:57	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:58	PilzAdam	there is no need for another channel
15:58	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:58	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:58	PilzAdam	how is support flood?
15:59	Prestotron562	[deleted]
15:59	PilzAdam	if people come here and ask for help then it isnt flood
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16:06	thexyz	you need a pro account to read that message
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16:14	VanessaE	bbl
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16:19	PilzAdam	Prestotron562, you can disable join/part messages in your client if it annoys you
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17:08	ShadowNinja	Prestotron562: You are banned/quieted/etc.
17:08	Prestotron562	[deleted]
17:09	ShadowNinja	Or maybe not voiced or something.
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17:09	ShadowNinja	Depends on the channel modes.
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17:12	Jordach	\o/
17:12	Jordach	but people will still come to #minetest
17:12	sfan5	what happend while I was away?
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17:13	PilzAdam	#minetest-help is _not_ official, this is the support/help channel
17:13	NakedFury	the world ended and was restarted
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17:14	Jordach\|MT	you wont
17:14	Jordach\|MT	that's YOUR problem
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17:18	ShadowNinja	Calinou: ..../moreores/init.lua:64: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'uses' (a nil value)
17:18	Calinou	._.
17:20	Peacock	..../moreores/init.lua:64: attempt to perform arithmetic on local 'calinou' (a nil value)
17:20	Peacock	:P
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17:22	Zeg9	Hey john
17:24	Peacock	pocket dimensions http://s13.postimg.org/ijq8vd2kn/screenshot_4271458351.png
17:24	* Zeg9	is a pony too
17:24	* john_minetest	wants to continue building up Zegaton II
17:25	nore	Calinou: you need to change tdef to tooldef in the code line 207...
17:25	Calinou	oh
17:28	Calinou	I changed every instance of tdef to tooldef
17:28	Calinou	is that right?
17:29	e1z0__	why do you need minetest-help ?
17:30	e1z0__	if, they we need to make channels minetest-mods minetest-textures minetest-offtopic
17:30	e1z0__	and minetest-beer
17:30	Calinou	nore: ^
17:30	e1z0__	;-)
17:30	PilzAdam	and minetest-pony
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17:34	Peacock	dont forget minetest-pron
17:35	Peacock	"the biggest pair of blocks in the voxel universe"
17:35	e1z0__	haha
17:35	Calinou	lol
17:36	e1z0__	needs some more
17:36	e1z0__	:-p[
17:36	Peacock	now that ive done pocket dimensions, what the hell do i do with them? lol
17:37	* Jordach\|MT	really needs to update MC4MT8
17:37	Peacock	rather, what does MC do with them lol
17:38	e1z0__	mc4mt8 wtf ?
17:38	Peacock	there's an MC riven map id like to convert
17:38	Peacock	the island would look nice in my waterworld
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17:43	e1z0__	the mc to minetest converter does not work
17:43	e1z0__	with huge world sizes
17:44	e1z0__	i tested it under amd phenom x4 it took more than 48hours without an result
17:45	Peacock	good heavens lol
17:45	Peacock	whats it written in?
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17:54	nore	Calinou, no! only that one
17:54	Calinou	-_-
17:55	Calinou	why does the game start then
17:55	* Jordach\|MT	pokes VanessaE
17:55	Calinou	GOOD, I don't have the old filke
17:55	nore	well, it does start, but you won't be able to use any tool
17:56	nore	sorry, only hoes will crash (as before)
17:56	* Jordach\|MT	is currently supporting http://www.digitalaudioconcepts.com/vanessa/hobbies/minetest/VanessaE_Game.tar.bz2
17:56	Jordach\|MT	bbl in 2 days
17:56	Jordach\|MT	hey Jeija
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18:01	Fungus_	Hello, I was woundering if someone could help me out today?
18:02	Jordach	Prestotron562, ^
18:02	Calinou	ask your question Fungus_
18:03	Fungus_	I am trying to get this texture pack to work in my own world only. For a future server I am working on
18:03	Fungus_	Prestotron tried to help me yesterday but it did not work
18:03	Fungus_	I redownloaed the pack and did not extract it or anything
18:03	Jordach	which game for minetest are you using
18:03	Fungus_	0.4.7
18:03	Jordach	no
18:04	Jordach	eg, minetest_game, pilztest
18:04	Fungus_	I'm not sure I understand
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18:05	Jordach	the server has to send mods, textures and sounds to other clients
18:05	Jordach	the normal game the server should select is minetest_game
18:05	Jordach	which is found under minetest/games/minetest_gamre
18:05	Jordach	minetest_game
18:06	Fungus_	Yes, I use the normal game not minimal
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18:06	Jordach	then you will need to replace the mod textures in there
18:06	Jordach	by hand
18:06	Jordach	if you want people to use the texture pack, link them to the texture pack download
18:07	Jordach	other wise clients with a different tp to the server will not see it
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18:07	Fungus_	But I been on other servers that use different packs and I did not have to install or do anything
18:07	Jordach	Fungus_, they know how to
18:07	Jordach	Fungus_, not to mention i can barely solve a vauge answer
18:08	Fungus_	What do you mean a vauge answer? I do not understand your vauge question. I'm sorry.
18:09	jojoa1997	where is the survival inventory defined?
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18:10	Fungus_	What I mean, I would like to do is install a texture pack onto my own created server so me and anyone else can see it, like on skys server they have different texture pack then say landrush
18:10	Fungus_	I don't need to install or do nothing on my end
18:10	Jordach	Fungus_, no clue
18:10	nore	is there any way to leave a message to someone that he will get on reconnection?
18:10	PilzAdam	jojoa1997, you can get the formspec string with player:get_formspec()
18:10	jojoa1997	ok
18:10	Jordach	eg, i just said: in minetest game there is a bunch of mods, you need to replace each texture by hand
18:10	Fungus_	Yes, but that would make it so only I see it
18:11	PilzAdam	Fungus_, installing texture packs on servers isnt a good idea
18:11	Jordach	Fungus_, that's FOR THE SERVER
18:11	PilzAdam	the client has to download all the textures, while the default textures are most likely already cached
18:12	PilzAdam	so the client has way less things to download if you use the default packs on the server
18:12	Jordach	hey Evergreen
18:12	PilzAdam	the proper way to install a TP is client side
18:12	Fungus_	I have just reinstalled the game and removed all other files to be safe pilz
18:12	Fungus_	and have not logged in any game mode yet
18:12	Exio4	don't call PilzAdam "pilz"
18:13	Exio4	or you will get backstabbed at night
18:13	Fungus_	He is an adult can tell me himself. But thanks for the tip
18:13	Exio4	/o\
18:13	Exio4	it was a joke
18:13	Fungus_	Ah
18:14	Exio4	he doesn't like being pilz
18:14	Fungus_	You sneaky troll :p
18:14	Exio4	so i used it
18:14	Exio4	for trolling, yeah'
18:14	Exio4	i'm a good pet
18:14	Fungus_	So if I replace all by hand would that change it for just my world
18:14	Fungus_	or every world I join
18:14	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:15	PilzAdam	Fungus_, why do you assume that Im an adult?
18:15	Fungus_	Because your one of the creators of the game
18:15	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:15	ruskie	your point being?
18:15	* Jordach	gets the SynFlood ready
18:15	Fungus_	Usally a kid can not even tie his shoes let alone make a game
18:17	Fungus_	So, Jordach if I replace all by hand would that change for just my world and not servers
18:17	Exio4	there are dumb kid and l33t kids
18:17	Exio4	the latter are rare, tho
18:17	Peacock	meh, kids usually have alot more imagination
18:17	Peacock	anyone who's worked for a few years has theirs snuffed out lol
18:17	ruskie	only if you let them
18:18	Fungus_	We are geting off topic :/
18:18	ruskie	my imagination is still going strong
18:18	PilzAdam	Prestotron562, who said that I am not an adult?
18:18	Fungus_	Jordach ?
18:18	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:18	PilzAdam	:-p
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18:19	Fungus_	:/ Can someone else possibley help?
18:19	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:19	PilzAdam	Fungus_, the textures that are in textures/all/ on the server will be send to the clients
18:20	Fungus_	If I replace each texture by hand in a new texture pack would it replace all in my own world only or all servers too
18:20	thexyz	PilzAdam is 8 year old girl
18:20	Fungus_	How would I just install on my own world
18:20	Fungus_	and not others
18:20	PilzAdam	>girl >internet
18:20	PilzAdam	suure
18:20	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:20	PilzAdam	Im an 3 year old pony
18:20	sfan5	^
18:21	sfan5	but ponies are female too
18:21	Fungus_	How would I install a texture pack for my own world and have it not effect others
18:21	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:21	PilzAdam	Fungus_, set a different texture_path in the minetest.conf for the server
18:22	Fungus_	Can you or someone walk me through that?
18:23	Prestotron562	[deleted]
18:24	Fungus_	VanessaE ?
18:24	PilzAdam	Fungus_, sry, but I have other things to do too
18:25	Fungus_	Anyone else then?
18:25	OldCoder	Umm...
18:25	* OldCoder	seems to have stumbled into the MLP channel
18:25	* MinetestBot	places a pony on OldCoder's head
18:26	thexyz	this is very true
18:27	Fungus_	Their is about 50 or more people in this chat, Not one person knows how or can take time to walk me through the steps?
18:27	Fungus_	I understand some are busy, but everyone else?
18:29	Fungus_	I do not know how
18:29	Fungus_	Other wise I would install it
18:30	Fungus_	Where is that bar inside game
18:30	Fungus_	Let me check, hang on
18:30	OldCoder	A pony? Is there a pile of ponies now?
18:31	Fungus_	Wouldent this effect every server I join
18:34	Fungus_	Also PilzAdam
18:34	Fungus_	Someone deleted the article on createing a server on wiki
18:35	Fungus_	As the creator of the game I thought you should know.
18:36	Fungus_	How do I make it so it only changes for my own server, and have others see it like VannenseE server
18:36	Fungus_	She has a different pack then others
18:36	Fungus_	Please tell me
18:37	Fungus_	Any anyone would be able to see it?
18:37	Fungus_	Okay, keep me posted I am trying as well
18:37	Fungus_	Thank you john_minetest
18:38	Fungus_	I do not have a texture folder in my worlds foler
18:39	* Prestotron562	is now AFK
18:40	kahrl	Assuming you have a recent git version you can put the textures into textures/server
18:40	Fungus_	The following are all in my created worlds server: Players, auth,env_meta,ipban.map.sqlite, map_meta,rollback,wolrd.mt
18:40	Fungus_	I have 0.4.7
18:40	kahrl	ah, then no
18:41	Fungus_	I will just add the folder and try
18:41	Fungus_	Should I extract folder?
18:41	Fungus_	I still just have zip
18:42	kahrl	extract
18:42	kahrl	minetest does not load zips
18:43	Fungus_	ok
18:44	Fungus_	Nope did not work
18:46	Fungus_	Just forget it
18:46	Fungus_	It's not working
18:46	Fungus_	And this is just to confuseing
18:46	Fungus_	john_minetest thank you for everything
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19:24	Exio4	PilzAdam / john_minetest, WG?
19:24	Exio4	(##werewolf) :p
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19:25	jojoa1997	will client side skins be added to minetest?
19:25	* Calinou	is banned from ##werewolf, taunts with atomizeer
19:25	Calinou	-e
19:25	Calinou	jojoa1997: I wouldn't expect that in the near future at all
19:27	jojoa1997	:(
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19:29	beacon55	have u guys see prestotron
19:29	Exio4	i don't want to
19:29	beacon55	why
19:30	Calinou	Prestotron562: someone wants you :p
19:30	beacon55	u not like him
19:30	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:31	beacon55	i need help instralling mod
19:31	proller	Prestotron562, beacon55 why you have one ip?
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19:32	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:32	beacon55	k bye
19:32	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:32	Exio4	seems more like you
19:33	Exio4	tell her to connect back
19:33	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:33	Calinou	._.
19:33	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:33	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:34	proller	more annoying than you??
19:34	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:35	proller	you first
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19:35	beacon55	wat
19:35	Peacock	lol
19:35	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:35	beacon55	yes
19:36	beacon55	preston why does my compter look diffrenyt
19:36	proller	beacon55, show foto, or you==virtual.Prestotron562
19:36	Exio4	er
19:36	Exio4	sorry proller
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19:36	Calinou	why sorry, Exio4
19:36	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:36	Calinou	proller: ...not even funny
19:36	beacon55	wats linux?
19:37	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:37	beacon55	i dont like it
19:37	Peacock	wouldn't be the first multiple personality to join minetest lol
19:37	thexyz	note: posting personal information here will not be tolerated
19:37	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:38	beacon55	it loock weird
19:38	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:38	beacon55	say wat
19:38	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:38	beacon55	whats foto
19:39	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:39	Exio4	photo
19:39	proller	nude, off cource
19:39	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:39	Exio4	lol proller
19:39	Calinou	why do I feel like an hypocrite so much here
19:39	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:39	Exio4	gg
19:39	* Calinou	glares at Exio4
19:39	Peacock	the engliche language has really gone downhill on this channel lol
19:39	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:39	thexyz	child pornography will not be tolerated either
19:39	Calinou	stylish PC with caviar blacks? no thanks
19:40	Exio4	Calinou: hi
19:40	beacon55	ewww
19:40	beacon55	bye
19:40	Exio4	if she is 8 then she shouldn't try to be on irc nor internet
19:40	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:41	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:41	Peacock	possibly mental patients too
19:41	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:41	Calinou	...
19:41	PilzAdam	no, we are not one family
19:41	PilzAdam	its core devs vs. rest of world here
19:41	Exio4	haha
19:41	Exio4	core devs vs users
19:42	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:42	PilzAdam	Exio4, woffle?
19:42	Exio4	THE WAR - Chapter 1
19:42	* Calinou	slaps PilzAdam with a waffle
19:42	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:42	* Peacock	slaps calinou with a pilzadam
19:43	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:43	Calinou	I'm not cruel :(
19:43	Peacock	just because i operate on homeless people i kidnap off the street doesn't mean im cruel
19:44	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:44	Calinou	:p
19:44	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:44	Peacock	i like to collect spleens that's all
19:45	Jordach	hey look, n00b flamers
19:45	* Calinou	fireballs Jordach
19:45	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:45	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:46	* Prestotron562	kicks Jordach in the shin
19:46	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:46	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:47	pitriss	I don't see any cruel ppl in this channel..
19:47	Exio4	http://cdn.overclock.net/d/d4/d4765677_01-DSC_4104.jpeg looks nice
19:47	Exio4	at what frequency is the CPU? \o/
19:48	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:48	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:48	Calinou	he's both lol
19:48	Exio4	no idea john_minetest \o/
19:48	Exio4	i just know there is a lot of money in that
19:48	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:49	Exio4	at least 4kUSD i guess lol
19:49	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:49	Peacock	rag-quit?
19:49	Exio4	ragequit Prestotron562
19:49	pitriss	lol john_minetest
19:49	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:49	Exio4	john_minetest: ##werewolf pls
19:49	Exio4	one game
19:49	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:50	proller	Prestotron562, just try to close irc client, and rage --> 0
19:50	Peacock	by you
19:50	Calinou	why are you making fun of it?
19:50	Calinou	Exio4: no u
19:50	* Calinou	taunts with atomizer
19:50	Calinou	inb4 there are games with 20p
19:50	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:51	Exio4	XD
19:51	Exio4	it is the internet
19:51	proller	Prestotron562, bacause you cant stop
19:51	Exio4	lets deal with it or you won't be able to be here for more than 6 months
19:51	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:51	proller	be noob
19:51	proller	and flooder
19:52	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:52	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:54	Calinou	don't insult him back, just ignore him
19:54	* Calinou	feels like an hypocrite again
19:54	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:56	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:57	MinetestBot	Prestotron562, zip it
19:57	Calinou	.tar.xz it
19:57	pitriss	:D
19:57	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:58	* Jordach	thinks it is MinetestBot's time of the month
19:58	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:58	pitriss	Prestotron562: I think you are really flooder, you are typing even when you have nothing to say..:)
19:59	Prestotron562	[deleted]
19:59	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:00	* Jordach	calls bullshit
20:01	pitriss	Prestotron562: but on IRC there is better to be silent when you can't answer correctly.. Topic says be patient.. that means you should ask and wait for answer
20:01	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:03	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:04	Jordach	\o/
20:04	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:04	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:04	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:05	proller	and you start again?
20:05	proller	you cant be silent more than one minute?
20:05	Prestotron562	[deleted]
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20:12	Peacock	proller perhaps we can do something to his voice box?
20:12	* Calinou	isn't
20:12	Peacock	someone stole calinou's pony
20:12	Calinou	:(
20:12	Calinou	if you found it, connect to LandRush and try to break a block at the spawn 15 times
20:12	Peacock	lol
20:12	Peacock	im surprised no one made a pony mob yet
20:12	Jordach	http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19349921 current minetest_game on left, Prestotron562's on right
20:12	Calinou	Taoki said he would do one, lol
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20:20	Morrolan	Cat comes in, completely wet, cuddles until it's dry, leaves again.
20:20	Morrolan	Thanks you very much.
20:20	Morrolan	s/s//
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20:28	sfan5	goodnight everyone
20:28	Peacock	the whole time i was showering the cat sat there staring at me :S
20:28	pitriss	night sfan5
20:29	Calinou	night
20:32	Peacock	is lost http://s13.postimg.org/omspbgmdj/screenshot_4282766455.png
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20:34	Peacock	what are good dimensions for pocket dimensions? 100^3, 1000^3, or 10001000100(height) ?
20:37	Peacock	cubic/rectangular areas isolated by unbreakable nodes
20:37	Peacock	like this http://s13.postimg.org/omspbgmdj/screenshot_4282766455.png
20:38	Peacock	the MC original http://youtu.be/BL5eillMQi8
20:40	Peacock	i think 100 height might be best too, though i wonder if its high enough for a fake sky
20:41	proller	unbreakable for tnt ?
20:41	Peacock	well unbreakable = diggable = false
20:41	Peacock	you cant really stop other mods from doing damage
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20:42	NakedFury	maybe a smaller dimension 500 or 250 and have a bigger dimension item too for the 1000
20:42	Peacock	aiight then 100 height it is
20:42	Peacock	100,250,500, 1000 width and depth im not sure
20:43	Peacock	at 100^3, i calculate roughly 5.2 million dimensions
20:43	Peacock	and thats just using heights -30K to -25K
20:43	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:44	Peacock	10001000100 = 51200 dimensions
20:45	Peacock	so thats still alot of dimensions even if they are big
20:45	Prestotron562	[deleted]
20:46	Peacock	was inspired by this http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8462/sn4.png
20:46	Peacock	guy made a myst age undeground and fake a sky and sunset
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20:56	yyamiyyugi	With the games thing, does it still use the default?
20:56	Peacock	hm, pocket dimensions generate hella-faster with voxmynipples
21:00	* proller	sometimes thinkink about server-defined clouds
21:01	proller	with more than one level, ...
21:02	Prestotron562	[deleted]
21:02	Prestotron562	[deleted]
21:02	PilzAdam	proller, I made a 3D clouds mod, that used default:cloud and oregen
21:02	proller	Prestotron562, choke please
21:03	proller	PilzAdam, they moving?
21:03	Prestotron562	[deleted]
21:03	PilzAdam	no
21:03	PilzAdam	Prestotron562, I just read in the logs that you wanted to stop flodding
21:03	proller	for weather need in multi color clouds
21:04	proller	PilzAdam, and what with distance to clouds?
21:05	PilzAdam	obviously it has the default node view range
21:05	proller	anyway its subject for todo
21:05	PilzAdam	but it looks really nice
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21:13	Peacock	proller: rain clouds :-)
21:14	Peacock	grey clouds where the particlespanzers kick in for rain :-)
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21:16	proller	Peacock, it already was
21:19	proller	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7foJg52ZFA0
21:20	proller	need to make same
21:20	proller	but now clouds client-only
21:21	proller	and weather on server and per-block
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21:24	STHGOM	wb
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21:31	proller	you still noobing
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22:23	OldCoder	Welcome back folks!
22:23	jojoa1997	lol
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22:23	jojoa1997	anyone know how to make lua get all the groups possible in minetest
22:23	Mossmanikin	hi folks
22:23	jojoa1997	like
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22:23	jojoa1997	(if i was using batch) groupcaps = { * = {times={[2]=3.00, [3]=0.70}, uses=0, maxlevel=1}}
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22:43	yyamiyyugi	goodnight
22:45	Mossmanikin	good night
22:50	yyamiyyugi	is there a way to disable the "ERROR function blabla took too long (insert time here)"
22:52	STHGOM	bye
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22:56	yyamiyyugi	is there a polycount limit?
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23:02	Mossmanikin	yyamiyyugi: don't know a number, but you've reached it when minetest crashes (had that a couple of times)
23:03	yyamiyyugi	lol
23:04	yyamiyyugi	just wondering, any guideline?
23:04	Mossmanikin	not that I know of
23:05	yyamiyyugi	dang
23:05	STHGOM	can someone make a mod for me?
23:06	Miner_48er	you could make it
23:07	* OldCoder	pets NekoGloopMkII
23:07	* OldCoder	is away for a few hours
23:07	* NekoGloopMkII	purrs~ :3
23:09	STHGOM	there are a dozen problems with making the mod myself
23:11	Mossmanikin	STHGOM: so you have started the mod and you're kind of stuck?
23:11	STHGOM	i havnt gotten far :D
23:12	STHGOM	does "get_player_name()" get the players name?
23:12	PilzAdam	no, it gets the players pony
23:12	STHGOM	i though so
23:12	STHGOM	thought*
23:13	Mossmanikin	:D
23:13	STHGOM	what do the "()" do?
23:13	Menche	for arguments
23:13	* Prestotron562	and Zeg9 are putting ponies in their ingame animals
23:13	Menche	all functions need those, whether or not they actually take arguments
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23:15	STHGOM	arg.
23:15	STHGOM	i always forget what arguments are exactly >:(
23:16	Evergreen	Ohai Mossmanikin
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23:17	Mossmanikin	Evergreen: Ji Evergreen :)
23:17	Mossmanikin	*Hi :D
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23:20	* Menche	thinks that aux1_descends should be true by default
23:20	Menche	sprinting through water is ridiculous with it off
23:20	Menche	also ladders and other climbable nodes
23:21	Evergreen	I know, but aren't they fun? :D
23:21	* Menche	can climb ladders so fast he jumps 30 feet off the top
23:22	STHGOM	:D
23:22	Menche	and i can climb down ladders faster than I free-fall :D
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23:22	Menche	...that has to be fixed
23:22	STHGOM	does: "playerName = get_player_name()" work?
23:23	STHGOM	...for a lua variable declaration?
23:23	Menche	yeah
23:23	Menche	not sure if you can just call get_player_name like that
23:23	Menche	but yeah, that would put whatever get_variable_name returns into playerName
23:25	STHGOM	well... it dosent get the players pony...
23:26	Mossmanikin	guess it's minetest.get_player_name(), but could be wrong
23:26	PilzAdam	you need a player reference
23:27	PilzAdam	and then call player:get_player_name()
23:29	STHGOM	how would you get a reference?
23:29	PilzAdam	there are multiple ways
23:29	Mossmanikin	I should try to refrain from making wild guesses... :D
23:29	PilzAdam	where do you need it?
23:29	STHGOM	at de start of my mod
23:30	PilzAdam	there are no players when the mod loads initially
23:30	STHGOM	so i will need somthing that trigger a check?
23:30	STHGOM	...for players
23:30	PilzAdam	maybe on_joinplayer() will help you
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23:31	STHGOM	and how would i put this all together?
23:33	STHGOM	1:playerName
23:33	STHGOM	2:on_joinplayer playerName = player:get_player_name()
23:34	PilzAdam	ehm, thats not how this works
23:34	STHGOM	ok :D
23:34	PilzAdam	have you ever read any other mods?
23:34	STHGOM	yes
23:35	Exio4	PilzAdam: here?
23:35	PilzAdam	no, there
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23:38	STHGOM	Miner_48er: now do you see the problem with making it myself?
23:38	Exio4	it was for ##werewolf :P
23:39	Mossmanikin	What exactly do you need the player name for? Do you want a chat message when a player joins? Do you want a special node to recognize a player?...
23:40	STHGOM	im tring to make a mod like BrandonReese's "Gauges" mod but instead of showing how much health the player has, i want it to show the players name
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23:44	Mossmanikin	Unfortunately don't know that mod... have a link?
23:44	STHGOM	just a minute
23:45	STHGOM	hmm maybe it wasnt brandonReese's... just in one of his packs...
23:45	STHGOM	https://forum.minetest.net/viewtopic.php?id=4735
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23:48	Mossmanikin	Ah, now I see what you mean. But isn't the player name allready there by default? (I don't play 0.4.* on servers)
23:49	Menche	it is
23:49	STHGOM	yes but you can see it though blocks
23:50	Menche	it would be nice if there were an option to make the name an attached entity
23:50	Menche	(and disable the other name of course)
23:50	STHGOM	the heath bar on that mod is an entity
23:51	STHGOM	or so it says...
23:52	Mossmanikin	Interesting. I'm curious now, gonna take a look at the code...
23:53	STHGOM	:D
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23:58	STHGOM	allooo

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